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71 Years Ago Today, The US Govt Carried Out One of the Worst Terrorist Acts in the History of the World

In May, Barack Obama became the first US president in history to visit the memorial of the American atomic bombings of Japan in Hiroshima. However, in true American fashion, he offered no apology.

“We have a shared responsibility to look directly in the eye of history. We must ask what we must do differently to curb such suffering again,” Obama said in a speech at the memorial on Friday.

The location of Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park was once the city’s busiest downtown commercial and residential district. However, the devastating atomic blast from the U.S. bomb that killed over 100,000 innocent civilians left the clearing in which the monument now sits.

The United States, with the consent of the United Kingdom as laid down in the Quebec Agreement, dropped nuclear weapons on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945, during the final stage of World War II. The two bombings, which killed more than a hundred thousand innocent civilians, remain the only use of nuclear weapons for warfare in history.

The United States holding the largest stock of nuclear weapons in the world is as ironic as it is terrifying.

On August 6, the U.S. dropped a uranium gun-type atomic bomb (Little Boy) on the city of Hiroshima. American President Harry S. Truman called for Japan’s surrender 16 hours later. Truman then told the Japanese, in psychopathic fashion, to “expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth.”

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Three days later, on August 9, the U.S. dropped a plutonium implosion-type bomb (Fat Man) on the city of Nagasaki. Within the first two to four months of the bombings, the acute effects of the atomic bombings killed 90,000–146,000 people in Hiroshima and 39,000–80,000 in Nagasaki; roughly half of the deaths in each city occurred on the first day.

During the following months, large numbers died from the effect of burns, radiation sickness, and other injuries, compounded by illness and malnutrition. In both cities, most of the dead were innocent civilians, including tens of thousands of children.

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While the Japanese monument in Hiroshima was specifically built to remember the horror of America’s nuclear bombs and the murderous devastation left in their wake, Japan is quite literally covered in lesser known silent monuments from dozens of firebombings carried out on its cities by the United States military — before the atomic blasts.

One bombing campaign, in Tokyo alone, killed nearly as many innocent civilians as the bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

On the night of March 9, 1945, four months before the nuclear attack, the U.S. launched one of the most murderous and horrifying bombing campaigns in the history of the world. That night marked the beginning of a several weeks-long wave of firebomb and napalm attacks across more than 60 Japanese cities. Many of these bombings were just as bad as the two atomic bomb attacks. However, when adding the sum total of innocence slain by U.S. bombs, the deaths in those five dozen cities eclipses the total deaths in both atomic bombings by several magnitudes.

While Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been deeply engraved on the consciousness of humanity and commemorated in monuments, museums, films, novels and textbooks, the firebombing and napalming of civilians of many other Japanese and Asian cities has largely disappeared from consciousness, except for the victims.

In Tokyo alone, U.S. bombers dropped 300,000 incendiary bombs, completely destroying 16 square miles of neighborhoods — killing more than 100,000 people, mostly civilians. Some survivor accounts detail flaming napalm seeping into bomb shelters and burning entire families alive.

One of the reports from the bombers stated that the firestorm was so vast and hot that it caused a B-29 bomber weighing 60 tons to be thrust upward by 600 meters as it flew over.

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Tokyo was one of more than 60 cities in which hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians were burned alive as they sought cover from the death raining down from above.

During what some historians refer to as The Forgotten Holocaust, the U.S. dropped millions of incendiary bombs, napalm, and even fastened bombs to live bats that were trained to fly up underneath roofs to explode and set houses on fire.

Some historians have calculated the total dead from the U.S. bombing campaigns in Japan to upwards of one million innocent civilians. It is no wonder you’ve never heard about these attacks in your high school history class as it shows the true face of American terror.

In 2003, Errol Morris won an Academy Award for his documentary film, The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara. The film consisted mostly of interviews with Robert McNamara, one of which described his role in the bombings.

McNamara was an American business executive and the eighth Secretary of Defense, serving from 1961 to 1968 under Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson, during which time he played a major role in escalating the United States involvement in the Vietnam War.

Following that, he served as President of the World Bank from 1968 to 1981. McNamara also consolidated intelligence and logistics functions of the Pentagon into two centralized agencies: the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Defense Supply Agency.

So, when this well-connected military industrial complex insider talks about U.S. war crimes, you should listen.

Apparently knowing that he could not be prosecuted for his previous war crimes in World War II and Vietnam, McNamara spoke candidly in the film about strategizing with General Curtis LeMay to, quite literally, set Japan on fire.

In the brief excerpt from the documentary below, McNamara explains how LeMay said that “If we’d lost the war, we’d all have been prosecuted as war criminals.”

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“And I think he’s right,” says McNamara. “He, and I’d say I, were behaving as war criminals,” McNamara continued.

“LeMay recognized that what he was doing would be thought immoral if his side has lost. But what makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?” pondered the now deceased McNamara.

McNamara was unapologetic in his testimony, and it seemed as if he really believed that since the U.S. ‘won’ the war, their horrifyingly murderous track record was somehow just. By this same logic, had Hitler ‘won,’ history should revere him as a hero instead of a murderous sociopath.

Sadly, McNamara is right — had Germany been successful, they could very well be written into history by themselves as the saviors of the free world.

“Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.” — the political ideology of the totalitarian government of Oceania in George Orwell’s dystopian 1984.

Below is that powerful video in which McNamara compares the Japanese cities’ sizes to that of American ones to illustrate the sheer size of destruction. To put the initial bombing of Tokyo into perspective, it would have been the equivalent of burning half of New York City, and all of its inhabitants, to the ground.

Please share this article with your friends and families to let them know the real history behind America’s ‘exceptionalism.’

Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world.  and now on Steemit

  • David Dhanvantari Miles Tietje

    “McNamara was unapologetic in his testimony, and it seemed as if he really believed that since the U.S. ‘won’ the war, their horrifyingly murderous track record was somehow just.”
    I really can’t see how you can believe the above statement. Seems to me he’s not justifying anything, simple asking us the question “is it just.”

    • Kelly Welsh

      All he did was carry out his orders, why should he apologize? What would you have us do, talk like the guy above posting? What did talk or the “UN” ever do as far as solving problems. Nothing. I agree it sucks but war is brutal and relentless, only problem is if you lose there are serious repercussions to endure.

  • Annabellum

    How old are You? Were you there? There is no justification…only necessity…The axis committed atrocities beyond belief…It had to stop…

    • Defekkto Desautels

      by doing something worse?

      • James Darby

        By doing what was necessary…honestly Abombs were probably too much, probably could have got the same response with lower yield drops…but it’s all the many heads of the same snake….you are all hypocrites

        • Defekkto Desautels

          why do you hide behind the ‘necessary’ argument? The US could have beat Japan by fighting; they had a more powerful military and more allies… And dude, seriously, saying that killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people to ‘save lives by preventing futher warfare’ is so full of hypocrisy it’s ridiculous.

          • James Darby

            Look…you cannot explain war, you cannot even begin to try. How many innocent lives where lost at Pearl Harbor, given the fact that we were not at war at the time it can be argued that every single person that died in Pearl Harbor was an innocent. Pearl Harbor was a strategic military site, as were Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Military strategist have always gone after high value sites regardless of whats around them, its a “casualties of war” mindset and it will never change and moreso every single wartime leader is guilty of it. So you can pick and choose point thru history if you want to, it does not change history

      • jonn

        And you’d prefer thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of American GIs die with an invasion with conventional weapons?
        Here’s a little tid-bit of fact for you to ponder……the scope of the expected loss of American lives………..
        The government ordered, and received so many Purple Heart Medals for the expected losses that the government is STILL using that stockpile today!!!!
        That means all of GIs from the Korean War, Vietnam War, Desert Storm, Iraq War, and Afghanistan War injured or killed are receiving/received medals made 70 years ago!

        • Defekkto Desautels

          Yes, I would prefer that hundreds of thousands of soldiers die in a war. That is what soldiers are for. That is their duty, and they know that when they join the military. I would prefer 1 million soldiers die over 1 civilian death to tell you the truth.

          • jonn

            You make no sense!
            You don’t mention all the civilians the Japanese killed in their empire expansion…….to you that was ok.
            “And they know that when they join the military”, you do understand how many “soldiers” were drafted to fight, right?
            How would your family and friends feel if you were drafted and killed?
            That is not their duty! Their duty is to fight and win, make the other guy die for his country.

      • Kelly Welsh

        Definitely, what would you have done my friend? Talked to them?

        • Defekkto Desautels

          They could have fought them like you’re supposed to in war…

          • jonn

            I take it that you have never experienced the horrors of combat up close and personal.
            It’s easy to sit in your comfy home and armchair quarterback……that’s until you have a uniform on and somebody is shooting at you, or your family, or your home.
            And we did fight “like you’re supposed to in war”……..SUPERIOR FIREPOWER!

  • Marvin H

    This is the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet.

    That bomb literally saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Learn some history before you post this nonsense.

  • jonn

    Blah, blah, blah, America bad, Japan picked on, yada, yada, yada.
    Clearly a bias from the author, conveniently left out facts such as the brutal crimes of the Japanese in China, Burma, Korea, New Zealand, etc. How many civilians did they murder? The Chinese and Korean women kidnapped and made into sex slaves for Japanese troops “entertainment”.
    Let’s not forget the murder of American/British POWs in the Bataan Death March, in the POW camps, or the “experiments” performed by Japan on POWs and civilians.
    Oh yeah, the Kamakazi flights, you know, the equivalent of suicide vests of today.
    Don’t leave out the attempts to create firestorms on the US and Canadian west coast by the launching of thousands of ballon bombs, and lastly, the, mostly unheard of, small invasion of Alaskan islands.
    Yeah, I’m all broke up of Allied forces stomping the shit out of Japan.

    • Defekkto Desautels

      So if Japan did horrific things, it somehow cancels out the more horrific things the US did? Do you even realize the hypocrisy behind your argument?

      • jonn

        The Japanese had to be stopped……one way or another.
        You do know that the Japanese were working on an atomic weapon too, right? As matter of fact, they exploded what they thought was atomic it what is now N. Korea,……..but they didn’t get it quite right and it was the equivalent of a regular bomb. They also developed chemical weapons, a Japanese sub was underway in the final days of the war to launch them on California, but was torpedoed and sunk.

        Spare us of your bleeding heart feelings for an event of 70 years ago. It was war, people died, we ended it with our allies…….deal with it.

        • Defekkto Desautels

          The bleeding heart feelings I’m expressing aren’t so much about what happened 70 years ago, but more so for the fact that people are still proud about what their country did and seem to think that they did the right thing? Can’t you yankees ever admit that you’re wrong?

          As for the Japanese developing nuclear weapons in WWII; perhaps they were just trying to defend themselves from being nuked? Why does no one throw a nuke on the USA right now for having nuclear weapons? They are the only country in the world who has used them against people? Based on your logic they should be bombed to prevent further destruction…

      • Marvin H

        MORE horrific things?

        You can’t possibly be serious?

        The Japanese army went into China and raped an estimated 80,000 women. They would take infants from their mothers and make them watch as they cut off the babies arms and legs while they were alive and then impaled them on bayonets… all while the mothers watched and were being raped, repeatedly, soldier after soldier after soldier, until they died. There were bodies of women and children rotting in the streets for months.

        During the campaign in the pacific, the Japanese army would strap explosives to mothers with children and send them into American strongholds posing as refugees, and then they’d blow them up, killing the women and children and American troops. They starved their prisoners when they weren’t beheading them for eye-contact, and they were not going to surrender, ever.

        If the US would’ve had to invade Japan, US troops would’ve been fighting women and children and the elderly, and it would’ve cost millions of lives. As horrific as those two bombs were, they were absolutely necessary to end the war, and thinking the US was the bad guy against the Japanese is flat out ignorant revisionism.

        • Michael Stones

          where did you get this shite??? oh yea it must be american history to try justify the war crimes they carried out

        • Defekkto Desautels

          Sure, keep telling yourself that it was necessary if that makes you feel better but it doesn’t change the fact that dropping two nuclear bombs on innocent civilians is about as evil as you can possibly get.

          • Marvin H

            What would you have done?

        • Michael Stones

          And you got this information where exactly?

          • Marvin H

            Why do I get the feeling that you’re intentionally fucking with me? Part of me thinks you are because it’s literally impossible for a person to be as stupid as you’re coming across. Then again, another part of me thinks that the only answer to this question that will shut you up is if I tell you I learned it at TRUMP University.

            Either way, you’re obviously not smart enough to waste any more time on, so we’re done, and you’re blocked.

          • Michael Stones

            LOL throwing your toys out of the pram is a sure sign you have lost the argument, and I would be getting my dollars back off Trump University for feeding you that bull

      • Steve Anderson

        Breath deep fella Japan is killing the world as we speak.

        • Defekkto Desautels

          Yeah, Japan and their imperialist mentality invading every country they can to steal resources and sway the economic balance of the world to their favour. They’ve been at war constantly since they became a country you know? Oh wait, I’m talking about the USA…

  • RockDad Rice

    It ended the war, didn’t it! It saved at least a million American causalities, didn’t it? Japan started the war, didn’t it?

    • Defekkto Desautels

      so by that logic Iraq can now drop two nuclear bombs on US cities and it’s ok?

      • Kelly Welsh

        No, because we have never declared war on Iraq. They could have defended themselves or acted offensively and conducted strikes in the USA but they did not have the means to do so. believe me, if they did they would have.

        • tapatio

          If Iraq had had the means, they SHOULD HAVE!!!

          Our WAR on Iraq was no less a war because they forgot to fill out the correct forms in Washington and Jerusalem’s propaganda lies.

        • Defekkto Desautels

          It doesn’t matter if the US didn’t officially ‘declare war’ on Iraq, they invaded the country and bombed the shit out of it. You don’t do that to another country unless you are at war with them.

      • Dan Fleming

        Not only did Japan start the war, they were hard core imperialist at that time. They would have fought to the last man, woman, and child to defend the emperor. The nukes broke their will to fight else there would have have been way more casualties on both sides.

        • tapatio

          One must assume that you are a Fox News viewer and believe everything you are told.

          You quote the junior high school propaganda/”history” texts almost perfectly.

          • Dan Fleming

            One must assume you keep a copy of the communist manifesto tucked under your arm at all times, with Che as your profile pic. You claim I quote propaganda without any counter argument. Life must be difficult for you, since you can’t offer anything of substance other than an ad hominem attack. I will wish you a good day though. Take care!

        • Defekkto Desautels

          It doesn’t matter if there would have been ‘more’ casualties. They would have been soldiers dying, not innocent civilians.

          • Dan Fleming

            You are full of it if you think civilians wouldn’t have been killed. There would have been bombers running non-stop blowing everything up including innocent civilians. You sir are a fool.

      • Steve Anderson

        More now since Obhama gave up our secrets to the enemy.

      • Michael Stones

        No not okay at all brilliant i would say

    • Steve Anderson

      It was planned way ahead of D day to hell with America we have no rights our President said in secret meetings with the elite which we never know who. Our President’s I think hate us. Darn Vietnam I still live it an I didn’t do combat!! ddeep 6

      • tapatio

        Well, I spent 22 months in combat and am fighting for the RIGHT (anti-war) side still. Our pResidents don’t hate us. We are not nearly important enough, to those puppets for hate.

    • Michael Stones

      no japan didn’t start the war dickhead I believe that was Germany

      • tapatio

        Actually the United States guaranteed the attack on Pearl Harbor by cutting off supplies of oil, iron and other materials to Japan over some years before 1941. Japan had a choice between dying as a culture/economy or striking out into China and Hawaii and the Pacific.

        • Marvin H

          “Actually the United States guaranteed the attack on Pearl Harbor by cutting off supplies of oil, iron and other materials to Japan over some years before 1941.”

          And why did they do that? What did the Japanese do in the late 30’s that would’ve pushed the US to act the way they did?

          You’re coming across like you actually believe the Japanese were innocent in everything leading up to the war. If this is true, let me know so I can write you off as an idiot and ignore you.

          • tapatio

            Your opinion means nothing. Reality is that, regarding war between the US and Japan, the US placed Japan in an impossible position – one in which their economy could either collapse for lack of materials they viewed as essential or they could go to war with US.

            How you “interpret” that is irrelevant.

          • Marvin H

            You’re still avoiding the question… Why did the US place those sanctions on Japan, and what would you have done differently in the same situation?

            See, junior, you’re making it sound like the US just woke up one day and said, “I’m bored. I know, let’s fuck with Japan today.” Obviously, that’s not the case, and the only two reasons I can think of as to why you’d imply something so ridiculous is either because it doesn’t fit the naive narrative you’re trying to lay out, or because you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

            So, I’ll fill you in…

            Those sanctions that placed Japan in an “impossible position” were actually put in place because Japan invaded China and had been massacring the population. They killed 300,000 civilians in a few weeks during the Rape of Nanking, and their stated goal was complete domination of the Pacific and eventually the world… Here’s the actual quote:

            “It is Japan’s mission to be supreme in Asia, the South Seas and eventually the four corners of the world.” –General Sadao Araki

            Look it up.

            The “impossible position” was actually shutting down their war machine with an oil embargo. That was why they attacked Pearl Harbor. They weren’t being bullied. They were being told to stop invading other countries and murdering women and children.

            Now, are you saying that the US should’ve kept giving them oil and just let them keep murdering innocent people?

            Uh huh… that’s what I thought.

            Japan signed treaties with Germany and Italy after the US instituted economic sanctions, but they still swept through the pacific. And still the US avoided going to war with them. It wasn’t until they invaded French Indochina, and started making motions toward the Philippines and US held interests in the Pacific that the US instituted the Oil embargo which led to Japan attacking.

            Seriously, kiddo. You really need to learn history and stop seeing things as so black and white. There are plenty of instances out there of the US doing shitty things, especially recently, but when it comes to what was happening in the world back before WWII, before the US was even a super power, you’re really off base.

        • Poptoy1949

          Almost correct but you left out too many details. It was not that simple. But a Communist Feces Eater like you would never say that. Dummy !!!!!!!!

        • Michael Stones

          Pearl Harbor was a legitimate Military Target

          • tapatio

            That’s very true. By the rules at that time, it’s unfortunate that the Japanese ambassador was delayed in delivery of a declaration of war.

            Today, there seem to be no rules. Sadly, we are part of the most outlaw nation on Earth.

      • Marvin H

        How do you argue either side of this subject if you don’t even know something as basic as how the US got involved in WWII?

    • tapatio

      “It saved at least a million American causalities, didn’t it?”

      A lie told a million times DOES NOT BECOME THE TRUTH

      • Defekkto Desautels

        Apparently american soldiers are just worth more than Japanese children to these awful people

        • tapatio

          True.

  • Smallville Will

    So let me get this straight…
    Japan starts it, US finishes it. US bad…
    It’s sorta like Japan is that hardcore rowdy girl who thinks she can hit men, and when a man hits her back, everyone else gets mad at him.

    • Defekkto Desautels

      no, it’s not like that; it’s more like if the rowdy girl gets hit, and goes and beats dozens of innocent people to death and is then ignorantly proud about it

      • Marvin H

        Are you 12?

        You do realize Japan broke dozens of treaties, invaded almost every land mass in the pacific, bombed an American base, and was preparing to invade Australia after going on a genocidal rampage in China that was easily the most depraved and horrific event in human history.

        And that was just the beginning.

        Look, I’m done being annoyed at your astonishing ignorance on this subject, so I’m just going to recommend you take a little time before you reply and do a search on the Rape of Nanking.

        Educate yourself before you speak, because as it stands now with your ridiculous whining, you look like an idiot.

    • John Jensen

      Not very Christian of you. What happened to turn the other cheek?
      That said I would have done the exact same thing that Truman did. Anything to bring my sons home alive. Anyone who disagrees should ask themselves:
      If Japanese had the bomb, would they have done anything differently?

      • Steve Anderson

        Thanks John that’s so true! The human nature of these failed leaders world wide pushes more and more flesh and blood Americans to believe in Jesus.

  • Kelly Welsh

    How do you see this as terrorism? Japan attacked us first with no warning. No chance to say hey we don’t want this type of war. Japan was acting in full support of Hilter and Hitlers plan to rule the whole world. You should really get your history and facts correct before you post false misleading headlines on your postings or you will become another defunk site just like “filmingcops” did. “Filmingcops” also went this direction with false misleading postings and they ended up losing 3/4 of their likes and viewers so if you think shock headlines and inciting anger are going to get you more money through hits think again.

    • Michael Stones

      what do you mean “Japan attacked you first with no warning”???

  • Poptoy1949

    MR. Agorist you sir are a Fool of the Greatest known to Man for writing an article you actually know very little about. Shame on YOU.

    • baliverne

      Post everything you know then, fool brainwashed sheep that you are.

    • Michael Stones

      You’re obviously an american exceptionalist wanker

      • Poptoy1949

        Beats the hell out of Being a Limey Muslim Servant.

        • Michael Stones

          LOL just proves what you DON’T know, I’m not a limey, I don’t believe in the sky fairy and i am certainly not a Muslim, you on the other hand have proved just what you are

          • Poptoy1949

            Hey Asshole, when you speak like a LIMEY you are thought of that way. I never said you a Muslim. You don’t read very well do you? Now I am going to tell you what I am WANKER. I am an American through and through and I bleed the red white and blue. Nothing more and nothing less. If you don’t like that I don’t give a Damn.

          • Michael Stones

            “Beats the hell out of Being a Limey Muslim Servant”… That’s copied and pasted from your response earlier, have you forgotten?

          • Poptoy1949

            Limey Muslim Servant meaning you are a Limey that serves Muslims. It does not say you are a Muslim and frankly I don’t care what you are or where you are from. Now learn how to read correctly you simpleton.

    • tapatio

      Louisiana – that figures. The ONLY way the South will ever rise again is as bloated road kill.

      • Poptoy1949

        Well said for a Communist Supporter like you and your Che Representative. Nothing on the face of the Earth Lower than a damned Fecal Communist. Eat Feces and Die.

        • Michael Stones

          You seem to be obsessed with eating fecal matter is that what you do?

          • Poptoy1949

            You do not seem to read very well. Read it again slowly and perhaps you may understand what was written. If you care to take part have at it by all means. What I do not like is people that promote the Communist Narrative while enjoying the Freedoms of the United States.

          • Michael Stones

            I can read perfectly well and what I said still stands you’re obsessed with eating fecal matter (how many times have you posted it?), and I am not promoting the Communist Narrative nor am I in the terrorist USA

          • Poptoy1949

            You may read but your interpretation is not correct. I say Fecal Matter rather than saying Eat Shit as some sites don’t go for the cursing. You jumped into something you should have left very well alone. This is one American that will not let get by with one single sentence against my country or one of it’s cititzens.

      • Poptoy1949

        What? You will never be The # 1 communist Poet with that tone you Feces Eating Communist.

        • Hugh Culliton

          Dude it’s 2016: there haven’t been any communists around here for centuries, and calling people commies doesn’t mean anything any more.

          • Poptoy1949

            Dudie, You better get with the program they are all around you but I guess you do not know what to look for. Some go around calling themselves Socialist and Progressives. I have a calendar and by the way Communism was not put down on paper until the 1870’s. Communism is not yet 150 years old. Live, Read, Learn.

          • Hugh Culliton

            I was using hyperbole to make my point that obsessing over communism (which is vastly different from socialism or progressiveism) is silly. Neo-liberalism is destroying your country – of course you’re quite free to blame communism, but it’s the other end of the political spectrum that’s killing you.

          • Poptoy1949

            If you think that today they are vastly different you are over estimating your grey matter. I do agree that that Neo libs are a problem just as Neo Cons are also but the biggest problem is The Hard left. Have you not seen their signs at all the Protest events all over the country. I have. They wave their Banners and on them is printed REVCOM…… Find out who they are and what their intentions are and learn something. George soros back them all and he is just a fine man isn’t he. You Young People had better start understanding the truth the correct way or one day it will be too damned late. Yes, I have been around a long time but according to your Generation we are all old and stupid. We shall see.

          • Hugh Culliton

            Full disclosure: I’m actually Canadian, but half of my family are Yanks, so I like to think that I have a dog in this hunt.

            “You Young People had better start understanding the truth the correct way or one day it will be too damned late. Yes, I have been around a long time but according to your Generation we are all old and stupid. We shall see.”

            We certainly shall see! First, thanks for calling me young – I just turned 46 and with a hairline receding faster than the German Army in 1945, I don’t hear such things much anymore! (LOL!)

            For what it’s worth, I’m a historian and any class I teach on oral history, one of the first lessons is about realizing that older people are wise (most anyway – the jury’s still out on you – lol) and to learn we need to shut-up, sit down, take notes, and [email protected] listen!
            It’s interesting but even we come from opposite corners, I think we might have accord with some basic issues, such as: neither Hard Left nor Hard Right are the solution, and both the American liberal class (Dems) and the corporate Republicans are a growing danger to American democracy. Both have been bought and paid for by the corporate PTB to do their bidding. Thus there is no real difference as the political system’s been gamed against the people.

            The big question though, is how do we rebuild a responsive democratic system in what’s become post-constitutional America? That’s not a rhetorical question – you’re guess is as good as mine.

        • tapatio

          You’re funny, LOSER.
          It’s so easy to identify the white trash known as the internet
          Troll. It says nothing in gutter language. “poptoy1949” is the
          Perfect example.

          http://en.gravatar.com/poptoy1949
          http://i.blogs.es/6b21cd/troll-gordo-1/650_1200.png

  • tz1

    Just remember, Clinton killed a half-million Iraqi CHILDREN with sanctions and Madeline Albright said it was “worth it”. Then Bush went in and destroyed the infrastructure and made it worse.
    And if you consider unborn babies “persons”, it’s 1 million a year, about 60 million so far, right here. But it isn’t as if anyone really wants to really be pro-life in all circumstances.

    Some lives are just very inconvenient, so there will always those who rationalize and justify their killing.

    • Kelly Welsh

      And Hitler killed 8.8 Million Jews in just genocide camps. Not counting casualties of war. Sanctions don’t kill people. How you get “1 million a year equaling 60 million so far” that would mean we were there killing for 60 years. You must be one of those new math students.

      • IceTrey

        Where do you get 8.8 million? Even the Jews only say 6 million.

        • Michael Stones

          AND the 6 million number has been used at least 5 times in zionist written history

          • IceTrey

            6 million was the number right after the war with 4 million at Auschwitz alone. Now the number for Auschwitz is 1 million. Does that make the official total 3 million?

          • tapatio

            Today, there’s no real way of knowing. The Holocaust Industry has muddied history so badly that realistic numbers are impossible. Under two million Jewish deaths in the camps can be documented. The rest is entirely up to the Zionist Holocaust Industry’s marketing skills.

          • Poptoy1949

            Now you sound like a Muslim. I bet you Hate everything about the U.S. Chicken$hit !

          • tapatio

            It’s so easy to identify the white trash known as the internet
            Troll. It says nothing in gutter language. “poptoy1949” is the
            Perfect example.

            http://en.gravatar.com/poptoy1949
            http://i.blogs.es/6b21cd/troll-gordo-1/650_1200.png

          • Michael Stones

            LOL true you always know the gobshites by the way they have to resort to name calling and insults when they have no argument

          • tapatio

            Poptoy1949 is of the Zionist sub-species, the mos vile of the lot.

          • Oswald Mosley

            Sound like a Muslim ??????
            Your potty-mouth and shoe-sized IQ are seriously exposing you…..Are you at wall-mart right now ?

          • Poptoy1949

            No I am at your favorite store……Toys R us CHICKEN$HIT.

          • Oswald Mosley

            Proved my point regarding your low IQ. Der

          • Oswald Mosley

            So you’re a teenage wet-wipe, get over it.

          • Doran Zeigler

            Keep writing your stupidity for the world to see and they will immediately recognize the danger of a hillbilly who believes he has a working brain. We often overlook the seriousness and dangerous aspects of hillbillies who try to think. There is a reason why they are all isolated in “Loosiana.”

            Hey, have you heard the latest, the North won?

          • Poptoy1949

            …and responses like this is why i get chapped by you know it all people. Everybody from the south is suppose to be stupid, a Redneck or just plumb dumb. Hwy A$$hole this guy is not a Hillbillie and does not have Hillbillie blood. but you say that to get my goat like most Trolls like you do. You sound like a Black Female Liberal that chases Conservatives around to annoy them and become a troll. So to you too I wish good tidings. May you forever ROT in Hell.

          • tapatio

            The six million number came from the prediction of some Jewish “prophet” long before WW II. It has nothing to do with reality.

          • Poptoy1949

            How in the hell would you know anything about reality you Fecal Eater.

          • tapatio

            It seems so easy to identify HELLary’s trolls.and they are the
            Same GUTTER TRASH as her beloved IsraHELL’s hasbara filth.
            http://en.gravatar.com/poptoy1949
            http://spinzon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Scan-21.jpg
            ,’;

          • Canuck

            You’re an idiot. You have NO IDEA what you’re talking about and you should refrain from commenting on serious issues of history.

            Go play pokemon or something… you have no head for serious issues.

          • tapatio

            Possibly you should go play with yourself. That scabrous cult has earned the hatred of the world.

            “Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.”
            Moshe Dayan

            RABID DOGS ARE DESTROYED FOR THE GOOD OF HUMANITY. They are capable of NOTHING, except spreading their disease.

            Israeli Propagandists Threaten Destruction of Europe as Punishment for Boycotting Israel
            http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/israeli-propagandists-threaten-destruction-europe-punishment-boycotting-israel

            http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres10/SamsonOption.pdf

            Martin Van Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, has been quoted as saying: “Most European capitals are targets for our air force….We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”

            Israeli official justified Israel’s threats. “You Americans screwed us” in not supporting Israel in its 1956 war with Egypt. We can still remember the smell of Auschwitz and Treblinka. Next time we’ll take all of you with us.”

            Ariel Sharon said “We are much more important than Americans think. We can take the middle east with us whenever we go” and “Arabs may have the oil, but we have the matches.”

            Israeli President,Shimon Peres has admitted that nuclear weapons are used by Israel for “compellent purposes” – i.e., forcing others to accept Israeli political demands. In 1998 Peres was quoted as saying, “We have built a nuclear option, not in order to have a Hiroshima, but to have our own Oslo.” (BLACKMAIL)

            Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, said “If left to its own Israel will have no choice but to fall back on a riskier defense which will endanger itself and the world at large… To enable Israel to abstain from dependence on nuclear arms calls for $2 to 3 billion per year in U.S. aid.” (Clear Blackmail)

            The state of Israel has violated every treaty they have signed. Today they are the world’s most prolific violator of international law. According to the Pentagon, Israel has between 200 and 400 nuclear weapons, ranging from suitcase-size “terrorist” bombs to thermonuclear warheads. Israel also has deployed the “Jericho III” intercontinental ballistic missile system, capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to the Central United States. They also have submarines capable of launching nuclear armed missiles anywhere in the world.

          • Canuck

            blah blah… garden variety Jew hater.

            Surprised you didn’t bring up the USS Liberty.

            How about the “Mossad did 911” nonsense?

            How far did you get in school? Really… what level of education have you achieved? Your critical thinking faculties are clearly limited and if there’s one thing I’ve noticed about anti-Semites they are usually very undistinguished and under-educated. You are a prime example.

          • Oswald Mosley

            You’re an idiot. You have NO IDEA what you’re talking about and you should refrain from commenting on serious issues of history. = fascist much…….

            Gibberish from an over-heated mind. We don’t mind.

          • Canuck

            Very articulate response. How far did you get? Grade 10?

          • Oswald Mosley

            !0 grades more than you, obviously.

          • billdeserthills

            So if it said that several races of minorities were wiped off the map, you would feel better about it?
            How about when the ground everywhere got all mushy from all the bodies buried in it, someone came up with that great incinerator idea??

          • Michael Stones

            That makes no sense to me at all pal what are you trying to say?

          • billdeserthills

            That it isn’t about the numbers of dead people that make events like the holocaust bad. Wiping out a nations minorities through a plan of ‘ethnic cleansing’ is the Evil

        • Doran Zeigler

          The Zionists, as far back as WWI, were using the number of 6 million. There were 6 million in peril, there were 6 million in danger of starving, and finally in WWII they got to use that fictitious 6 million as those who died in the camps and got it written into history books as a final chapter,

          The Germans supposedly did not start killing “jews” until 1942. The war was over in 1945. So we are to believe that the Germans killed 6 million people in less than three years. Doing the simple math, which seems to be beyond the comprehension of most dullards and gossipers, that would mean the Germans would have had to killed approximately 5454 per day, not only a staggering amount, but an impossible amount. There was no way that over 5000 people could be cremated in one day, each and every day for three years.

          What was the supposed fuel that Germany did not have which fired the crematories? A little known fact is that the Russians built crematories at Auschwitz after the war to burn the typhoid ridden bodies and clothing.

          Everyone just accepts the fables that came from Zionist propaganda without ever thinking about the impossible logistics of killing and burning over 5000 people per day.

          • IceTrey

            It’s also never mentioned that you can’t touch a body killed by hydrogen cyanide.

          • billdeserthills

            Also doesn’t make it OK to try and kill off a race of people. It happens in other places, but people conveniently forget about that.

          • billdeserthills

            Let’s say You are right, in fact let’s just say only half that many were killed.
            Does that make it Right? Does that possibility make You feel better??Does that make You Shut Up???

          • Charlie Picco

            Damn well said , Ice !

          • Canuck

            You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

            How could the holocaust possibly be faked? The Einsatzgrupen were murdering people in 1940 and 1941.

            Millions were worked to death and succumbed from typhus in addition to being murdered in gas chambers, shot in pits etc.

            Eisenhower made a point of documenting because he had a premonition that “some bastard will say it never happened”

            That idiot is you.

          • B Wiser

            so you must be the numerate anti-semite in your village . By the way phone home your village wants its idiot back.

          • Michael Stones

            And you must be the PERFECT citizen for your government, just smart enough to work and pay taxes but NOT smart enough to ask questions when the figures just don’t add up, I’d bet you believe in the sky fairy too despite all the evidence to the contrary and that goes for the clown below too

        • Charlie Picco

          Yet , the Red Cross estimated at 940,000…. I lay my bets on the Red Cross !

        • gininitaly

          No doubt here: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/killedtable.html

          A site which also included mention of the 5million European non Jews killed during the third Reich.

          But what the Jews had to do with the US bombing entire cities of innocent/non combatants in Japan… I have no idea, and probably had no influence on that despicable decision whatsoever. The reality is that the US simply wanted to try that new killing toy.

          • One Moccasin

            U.S.A. has been committing war atrocities since before its inception. Native Americans suffered the first genocide.

          • gininitaly

            Excellent point….. our European ancestors, who certainly helped instill this imperial/colonial mindset.

          • Michael Stones

            That link you posted is a Zionist propaganda site and CANNOT be trusted

          • gininitaly

            Yes it is, but at least they admitted to the 5 million NON Jews also killed during the holocaust… which seems to have disappeared from the discourse of the ‘Oy, poor me’ Zionist Jews of today.

          • Michael Stones

            What holocaust

          • gininitaly

            Right… and we never bombed Japan nor blew up the twin towers.

          • Michael Stones

            There’s indisputable evidence for those there’s video coverage, the only evidence for “the holocaust” is pictures that could have been taken anywhere, and what’s this WE I had nothing to do with either 🙂

          • Poptoy1949

            Who is WE?

          • Michael Stones

            Read the post above mine

          • Poptoy1949

            All I can say to that is that you are no friend of the Jewish People.

          • Michael Stones

            I am no friend of the Zionist’s, I have no problem at all with the Jewish people and know quite a few who I won’t call friend’s but do and will continue to talk to

          • Poptoy1949

            You deny there was one……a smell a Mussy…….

          • Michael Stones

            The facts and figures just don’t add up, the difference between you and me is IF I see actual proof I’ll believe it, and as I have said before I am not a Muslim and you denied calling me one just a few moments ago did you forget that too?, you might need to see somebody about your Alzimers

          • Poptoy1949

            Up to this Point I have not called you a Muslim but I DID make REFERENCE. I suggest you stop your rant right now. I do not have alzimers as you spell it. You came after me and I am going to defend my speech. Again, I say to you leave it alone.

          • Michael Stones

            I certainly did not come after you I replied to one or more of your comments and you started throwing insults, then I replied with like for like, and as for your right to speech I would wholeheartedly defend your right to it the same as I would for anyone else. Now we could waste the rest of the day going back and forward over this and you will never agree with me and I’ll never agree with you so could we just leave it at that?

          • Poptoy1949

            You are telling an untruth……..you replied to a remark i made about Fecal matter. I had never address you before that comment……go back up and look the script is still there. Can’t lie yourself out of this one. This is what i leave you with……. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1a89012218d85085b87dfe19d42676b7c89f08c40891199bb71932cbbe0ed425.jpg

          • Michael Stones

            LOL that’s very mature, that reply was after several fecal reference’s made by yourself and the first reply I made to you was about two months ago

          • Poptoy1949

            It gets the Point across and that is what was necessary Now go away…..Yes you are so mature……Woman love you and so on and so …Go Away.

          • Poptoy1949

            What is the matter Stones? Don’t like Jews?

          • Michael Stones

            Just don’t like lies

          • Poptoy1949

            Then prove it is a lie. There is no Limit to the typing space here. Please prove it.

          • Michael Stones

            I don’t have to prove it’s a lie, the fact that you can’t even question the facts and figures tells me all I need to know apart from the fact that I have researched it in detail and even the Red Cross said there was no evidence if genocide in the camps….https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj-wZKkuqrPAhWlCMAKHcn4A30QFgg0MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rense.com%2Fgeneral69%2Ffactua.htm&usg=AFQjCNHyg14k_taODN8TCqkZIAi90-P4SA&sig2=IDL9LKm76qjQQLSdiByjsQ&bvm=bv.133700528,d.d2s

          • Poptoy1949

            Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I have heard it all before. Now, leave me alone. I have too much to do today than argue with the likes of you.

        • tracy Smith

          Thank you you see how fools can lie to try to make Amerikkka sound like this is not the worlds biggest terrorist nation.

      • Dan Fleming

        Here I will help you out with tz1. Hillary Clinton voted to go to war in Iraq and stated it was a “business opportunity”. Indeed it was, the war monger she is was dealing in the blood, of Iraqi women and children. He is right that more than half a miilion Iraqi children have died. We aren’t even looking at the long term ramifications of this yet. The spread of “radical Islam” everywhere, which has lead to attacks globally and the no holds barred slaughter of innocent civilians who had nothing to do with this war Clinton voted for.

      • tz1

        I’ve heard Hitler killed 6 million jews and 5 million others in the death camps.
        If you don’t have food or medicine and die of starvation of disease because of sanctions, those sanctions are responsible for killing you. We made sure they didn’t have antibiotics so infections would become lethal. Cut off parts so sanitation suffered and disease increased.

        Some are worried North Korea might detonate an EMP. That EMP would kill no one directly. However since there would be no electricity or communication over a large area for a long time, people would die because of that. Would you then say that “But North Korea didn’t kill people, they just caused us to lose the grid”.

        I’m approximating and abortion was legal in several large states before roe. The total in the US after Roe v. Wade is at least 55 million over the 42-3 years.

        • Kelly Welsh
          • Michael Stones

            thats rubbish do a bit of research before you post untruth’s

          • tapatio

            Jewish propaganda fronts are NOT valid sources of information.

          • Poptoy1949

            Neither is your Ugly Mouth.

          • tapatio

            It’s so easy to identify the white trash known as the internet
            Troll. It says nothing in gutter language. “poptoy1949” is the
            Perfect example.

            http://en.gravatar.com/poptoy1949
            http://i.blogs.es/6b21cd/troll-gordo-1/650_1200.png
            ,.;

          • billdeserthills

            Not funny the first time,
            but looks like it’s all You got

          • tapatio

            Should I care? Don’t think so.

          • billdeserthills

            Oh I think everyone can see that very clearly

          • General-Zod

            is that a picture of your tits?

          • tapatio

            Nope, that Tel Aviv street walker you call “mama”.

          • General-Zod

            Mother jokes..ah yes…the final comeback of a desperate troll…

        • Mickey Megeath

          All I know is that a lot of people stopped showing up for dinner and the holidays after these people took over. the nazi, the soviets, and japs, driven in to purify the races and the thinking of millions of people removed a lot of inconvenient people from the face of the earth. even at our worst, American didn’t until maybes Roe vs Wade. NOW millions of humans are killed inside a death chamber called the womb. The horror. The horror.

      • Erika

        Do you live or have you ever lived in a country that is being sanctioned?

      • tapatio

        Dear me, this delusional number seems to be growing. The Jews, immediately after the war, placed the number at six million because that coincided with predictions of their “prophets”. The actual number of Jews who died in the concentration camps could be anywhere from 1.7 million to around four million.
        Not many considering the twenty million Russian Christian civilians slaughtered by Hitler in much more grotesque ways or the tens of millions of Chinese slaughtered by Japan in even more hideous manners or the fact that the Nazi genocide against the Roma almost succeeded. (the Roma today can be counted in mere thousands – not the pre-war hundreds of thousands).

        But, hey, if a Jew’s kid dies of cancer, odds are that that Jew will find a way to gain from the tragedy. As the Holocaust Industry has spent more energy and money on advertising and PR in the last 70 years than ANY other industry in world history.

      • frijolitofarmer

        “Sanctions don’t kill people.”

        They do when the sanctions cut off a nation’s supply of food. Starvation does kill.

      • tracy Smith

        Bull sh*t that’s some more sh*t Amerikkka told you.

    • tapatio

      Let’s not conflate America’s state terrorism with the right of a person to control their OWN body. The time between conception and birth of a child is a time of PERSONAL morals. I’m very much against abortion and AGAINST taking away a woman/couple’s rights.

      That’s very, very different from obliterating hundreds of thousands of – OR ONE –

      human being to terrorize other or for political/economic gain as in Clinton’s slaughter of Iraqi children and the millions of subsequent murders in the name of empire.

      • Poptoy1949

        Your Making an ASS out of yourself.

        • tapatio

          Is the widdle troll upset?
          It’s so easy to identify the white trash known as the internet
          Troll. It says nothing in gutter language. “poptoy1949” is the
          Perfect example.

          http://en.gravatar.com/poptoy1949
          http://i.blogs.es/6b21cd/troll-gordo-1/650_1200.png

          • billdeserthills

            So unfortunate this meme is all you have, how many times will You continue showing the same thing?
            Get some new material

        • Oswald Mosley

          Truth hurts, donit…….

          • Poptoy1949

            Oswald, Pull your Pants Up. Chicken$hit.

          • Oswald Mosley

            Testy, testy, angry poptoy lashes out with mono syllable slaps. Ouch

        • Hugh Culliton

          If anyone’s made an ass out of themselves, it’s you. In the 15 replies you’ve made on this thread, all of them have either been a personal insult, a racist slur, or some other vulgar tripe. You’ve added nothing to the conversation. You are a troll.

          • Stephane69855
          • Poptoy1949

            Wrong. I stated an opinion to begin with. Then people began Trolling and when you jump on me for Stupid reasons I jump back harder. You mess with me I mess with you harder. I had a right to my opinion and a lot of people even agreed with me. No one has the right to belittle me or my opinion without me coming back at them and that includes you. Had you been around when it all started perhaps you would understand. Now if you have no more to add leave it alone.

          • Hugh Culliton

            “He did it first”? Really? That’s the same logic 6 y/o kids in my Beavers troop use when I break-up their arguments over S’mores. Besides, the ‘arguments’ to which you refer are contribute nothing to the discussion and are solely nasty and personal insults such as calling African-Americans ‘Negros’ (that went out in the 60’s), (oddly) ‘racist’, “…you snowflakes are mentally ill”, “how many dongs can you take up the ass at once”, “Queer boy”, “Queer-loving fruitcake”, and (my fav); “Are you gay?” Perhaps you’ve been sucked into our universe from some parallel dimension where such inane and weak cheap-shots are exemplars of proper societal discourse and constitute a relevant opinion. Sadly, such remarks are no such thing in this universe.

            Your verbal word-salad’s quite off. You aren’t hurting anyone, nor are you actually stating an opinion. To help you out, an ‘opinion’ , according to Webster, is “a belief, judgment, or way of thinking about something : what someone thinks about a particular thing. : advice from someone with special knowledge : advice from an expert. : a formal statement by a judge, court, etc., explaining the reasons a decision was made according to laws or rules.”

            None of what you’ve posted on this thread even comes close to meeting that definition. So please: stop posting dumb $hit – the grown-ups are trying to talk.

      • tz1

        There is nothing special about that time. Reality and facts aren’t subject to personal morality or opinion. It is a human life from the moment of conception.
        Moreover, why do you think women aren’t capable of moral agency? Is it because there is no possibility of them understanding where babies come from, or because they are overcome with insanity so just have to jump and get pregnant even when they know better? People without moral agency cannot have rights, or at least not exercise them personally – they need conservators or guardians.
        I give full moral agency to women and believe that women (and men) have the absolute right not to have sex – TO CONTROL THEIR BODY, just like they can control a car – but if they are negligent or misuse the right and “crash”, then they are responsible for the consequences.

        • tapatio

          When SCIENCE concludes that you are correct, let me know. Until then, your delusional system is irrelevant.

          • tz1

            Science states human life begins at conception. It takes a lot of sophistry to allow you to commit murder by denying the scientific facts.

          • tapatio

            Scientists that are NOT connected to fundamentalist churches do NOT agree with your cults.

            Are you too stupid to comprehend or are you simply a fanatic that couldn’t care less about reality?

          • tz1

            Science is not related to whether one believes in God or Not.
            The question is whether the Zygote is alive – which is true, and whether it is human, and with 46 human chromosomes, human mitocondrial DNA, and everything else it is clearly human. Human Life. That is the reality. Simple logic.
            Doris Gordon is an Atheist and Libertarian, but is pro-life, see http://l4l.org/
            When it interferes with sexual hedonism, people will throw out any evidence, science, reason, and logic to preserve their pleasure even if it includes murder.
            Why is it so important to have sex at any and all times without doing anything to prevent pregnancy to the point of murder?

            Christians believe in only one virgin birth.
            Or don’t you understand women don’t get pregnant spontaneously, and there must be a man involved?

          • Michael Stones

            Do you believe in the “one virgin birth” ??if you do, why are you posting comment’s about science

          • tz1

            CS Lewis miracles noted that miracles are only recognizable because they violate the known laws of Nature. Even St. Joseph knew that and was going to quietly put his espoused away.

          • Michael Stones

            I don’t believe in god or miracles so I can’t answer this post

          • tz1

            It is irrelevant if one believes in miracles or not. My point is science itself defines when life begins and that sex causes babies.
            Women are even more stupid if they believe they can’t get pregnant from sex (or don’t take measures to prevent such), so why because they are unscientific are you allowing them to murder their babies?

        • Michael Stones

          The fact that you think YOU have the right to take away ANYONE’S rights says more about you than you think and completely negate’s your argument

          • tz1

            That I don’t wish to take away the baby’s right to life? Your point is? That a right not to be inconvenienced trumps it? That would make for less road rage but more road deaths.

          • Michael Stones

            I do NOT agree with abortion on demand like they have in the states but there are reasons for abortion that you or I cannot really understand because we have never or will ever be pregnant, so although I have an opinion on it it’ really none of my business, if a woman or child is raped who are you or I to tell her she has to ruin the rest of her life by having that baby and what gives us the right to map out the rest of her life?

          • tz1

            To bring up the 0.1% of cases that are rape cannot justify the 99.9% that aren’t. I don’t count mutual drunken stupors at frat parties regret as rape.
            And who said anything about “the rest of her life”. First, the pregnancy can be prevented, so unless she is held prisoner (0.0001% or less), as soon as she reports it, as part of the “rape kit” she should be asked and treated to prevent it. Assuming she doesn’t do so, then it is only 9 months, then the baby can be put up for adoption.
            Also since you bring it up, what if a man claims HE was the rape victim. Does a man have the right to force a woman to kill the child, or will his life be literally ruined since he, the rape victim, will be forced to pay child support for 18 years?

            If you agree that men who didn’t consent to sex, or consented only upon the condition that the woman was not going to produce a baby can force that woman to have an abortion, I won’t question your position.

          • tz1

            Again, how is 9 months “the rest of her life”?
            Again, if they were raped, did they prevent conception?
            The rape itself will likely cause the problem.
            I’m not sure if you are white, but do you say because you are not Black, that you can’t speak if blacks wish to loot, vandalize, and murder? Or are there universal principles?
            If you consider women somehow lesser than men, so principles of civilized behavior don’t apply, then you should also approve of the guardianship of men for them where the principles apply.
            I believe in equality, not female privilege.

          • Michael Stones

            “Again if they were raped, did they prevent conception”? are you serious? what’s she supposed to say while she’s being violated? “would you mind putting on a condom”? and what difference would it make if I was bright green, what has that got to do with anything at all? I do think you have a serious problem with your political establishment, the police have become too militarised and have seemed to have gotten away with murder on more than one occasion, and the media are focusing on that to prevent people seeing what your government are doing around the world, I have LONG believed that the American government are the number one terrorist regime on the planet, and do you know why none of this will matter in a few years? if that Lying warmongering GEEBAG Clinton gets into the Whitehouse she will start a nuclear war with Russia, shes the type when she was young that kept poking the dog with the stick until it bit her and then ran in to daddy saying “the dog attacked me for nothing”

          • tz1

            No, after the rape, as part of the rape kit and recovery, she should take a contraceptive then.
            I would expect that if someone knifes me I would not wait until gangrene sets in to get the wound treated.
            You also didn’t answer that if a man claimed to have been raped if he could force the rapist to have an abortion if she became pregnant.

          • Michael Stones

            How can a man be raped? if he doesn’t want to have sex he won’t, did you not say in one of your other posts that people should have more control over themselves?

          • tz1

            He can also be drugged, restrained, and (as the CDC has coined) “forced to penetrate”. There have also been cases where condoms were removed and women used them to impregnate themselves.

            http://buzzsouthafrica.com/more-men-are-being-raped-in-south-africa-3-ladies-raped-a-man-on-gun-point/

            But also simply consider it as a theoretical – if a man can muster the same level of proof as a woman as to being raped, can the man force the pregnancy to be terminated?

          • Michael Stones

            Well in a perfectly FAIR world he could try but if the woman wanted to keep the child he should be able to walk away free with no responsibilities, you have me at a disadvantage I’ll have to research this “Forced to penetrate” and get back to you on it, if you’re right pal I’ll hold my hands up

          • tz1

            No, a woman victim could walk away after 9 months with “no responsibilities” even if abortion was illegal in that case. A man would know that somewhere there was a bastard child of his if he couldn’t have it aborted. Your point is that “it will ruin the rest of the victim’s life simply to know there is a living human being”. That would apply to both men and women.

          • Michael Stones

            I don’t know pal, you seem a bit anti woman here to me, a man will never know what it’s like to have a baby, in their womb for 9 months so Judging them both by the same rules, men don’t have the Maternal instinct and so can’t ever know, but don’t think I don’t know about the receiving end of it either, i was with someone with whom things didn’t work out then told me she was pregnant so I said grand,we’re NOT getting back together but if it’s mine you won’t want for anything, so I went to a good Health center to make an appointment for a DNA test and when the time came she admitted it wasn’t mine and so I haven’t seen her since.

          • tz1

            Women and men are different, and I’m not anti-woman unless you wish me to deny the reality and the implications of the differences.
            There is a reason women should avoid dark alleys and/or have a friendly man accompany here. “I am woman, hear me roar” can become “I am woman, hear me scream” when things cease being civilized.
            Note that many Europeans are inviting rapefugees in then wonder that women are being raped, yet many of the women were the ones whose hearts were tugged and feelz led them to support the policy.

          • Michael Stones

            There wouldn’t be any “Rapefugees” as you call them if America wasn’t destroying their countries

    • Paschn

      “Some lives are just very inconvenient”
      Pure truth. Have you ever read “the protocols..” or the even MORE nightmarish Talmud?
      Unless you have a firm grip on your sanity, I seriously suggest you forego it.

      • tz1

        Only bits of the latter but enough, and people have problems with the Koran?

    • Do t forget that the US gov, conservative Christians have supported legislation in congress that supports dictators and terrorists all over the world, causing more death than Hitler did. USA is and always has been and probably most likely always be, the biggest terrorist entity on the face of the earth.

      • General-Zod

        Causing more death than Hitler did? really? Stalin and Mao as well?

      • alpha_centauri

        You’re completely forgetting both Stalin, Lenin, and Mao and others who were all Atheist and nobody that’s Christian, part of the U.S. government, or even an American conservative Christian supported them. Ceauşescu and Pol Pot were Atheist and killed lots of people.

        • Put all Atheist in one pile and theists is another, who has caused the most death and desctruction? The theists!

      • Poptoy1949

        That is not even close to being the truth. If you do not true American History please do not pretend to quote it.

        • Apparently you are a FOX viewer

          • Poptoy1949

            Not at all. But I am a Realist that can spot Political Correctness especially when spewed from a Dumb ASS.

    • General-Zod

      Actually Saddam Hussein killed half a million Children. Not Clinton.

      • tz1

        The extortionist that ends up burning down your business because you wouldn’t agree to the demands is the arsonist and the one responsible for the fire, not the person who refuses to sign.
        But it would be easier for SWAT teams just to shoot all the hostages so as to remove the bargaining leverage for someone barricaded.

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          • Michael Stones

            That makes no sense

      • tracy Smith

        Who told you that the Amerikkkan gov the biggest and crooked liars on planet earth?

      • Michael Stones

        No that was the warmongering geebag clinton

      • Poptoy1949

        I think you should check your source of information again. There is no doubt that Saddam killed children but the issue tz1spoke off is DOB accurate.

    • B Wiser

      hush up stupid head….In your mind the US killed 1 billion Iraqis you moron…Now go play with your Jihadist buddies in traffic.

      • Michael Stones

        You would be safer playing in the traffic than if you don’t just drop to your knees and worship the american terrorist regime

  • George Plunkett III

    You not murder in war, you kill. The bomb saved 1,000,000 lives. Besides it took two bombs to have Japan surrender.

  • PithHelmut

    This whole idea of war is so last century. When are we going to get over it? War has never solved anything and it kills people and animals and destroys buildings. What is the matter with the human race? Any justification of killing our own species should render such a holder of that opinion as someone to watch, someone who is most likely a budding or active sociopath.

    • Kelly Welsh

      There is a clear answer here but If I say it I will be slammed, so think about it…

  • Mike Howell

    Whoever came up with this shit needs to have his balls cut off.. Such ignorance doesn’t need to reproduce..

  • baliverne

    I applaud your article Mr. Agorist. Despite what the sick fucks in this comment section are saying, it’s important not to belittle our heinous acts which were inappropriate and even more disgusting is the fact that it wasnt even necessary to drop those bombs to end the war as everyone here is so convinced was the most noble act of WW2.

    • Marvin H

      When you get out of Jr High school, you should take a history class or two.

      • Roy Blankenship

        Take your own advice. The Japanese were done before we dropped the nukes and everyone seems to know it except you. Besides, what accurate history has ever been taught in our schools?

        • Marvin H

          That’s only half true. They would’ve agreed to stop fighting, but they weren’t going to agree to an unconditional surrender and total disarmament with American bases on Japanese soil. I suppose you would’ve been okay with letting them keep their army and fighting the same war over again ten years later?

          But since you’re the historian and military expert, you tell me what you would’ve done differently. How would you have ended the war in the Pacific?

          • tapatio

            The Japanese NEVER stated any conditions for surrender. They informed Washington that they wanted to surrender and requested our terms – then we dropped the nuclear weapons.

          • Marvin H

            And… Wrong.

            The Japanese opened talks with the soviets about a possible surrender with them acting as intermediaries with the US and Britain, but they also stated in those talks that unconditional surrender was not an option.

            From the actual correspondence:

            “His Majesty the Emperor is greatly concerned over the daily increasing calamities and sacrifices faced by the citizens of the various belligerent countries in this present war, and it is His Majesty’s heart’s desire to see the swift termination of the war. In the Great East Asia War, however, as long as American and England insist on unconditional surrender, our country has no alternative but to see it through in an all-out effort for the sake of survival and the honor of the homeland.”

            Nice try, though.

          • Poptoy1949

            Total Bull$hit in that statement.

          • tapatio

            It’s so easy to identify the white trash known as the internet
            Troll. It says nothing in gutter language. “poptoy1949” is the
            Perfect example.

            http://en.gravatar.com/poptoy1949
            http://i.blogs.es/6b21cd/troll-gordo-1/650_1200.png
            ,.;’

          • General-Zod

            Oh yes and you expected the US to trust them after that bullshit fiasco that led up to Pearl Harbor? The Japanese pretending to be all peaceful and ready to put differences aside?

            The Japanese were to prideful to surrender.

          • Michael Stones

            Pearl Harbor was a legitimate military target a city full of cilVillians was NOT

          • Judy Dowell Fullmer

            There were ships of US soldiers waiting to invade Japan if the bombs were not dropped, the loss of life would have been much higher had the bombs not been dropped ~ for both Japan and the US

      • tapatio

        The “H” stands for “Herzl” or something similar?

        • Marvin H

          Says the poseur with a Che Guevara avatar.

          • tapatio

            I seem to have guessed correctly.

          • Marvin H
          • tapatio

            Ohh, that’s a new one. What creative writer came up with that lie?

          • Marvin H

            HA HA!!!

            Oh, son… I think you should do some research on what the man actually stood for and what he actually did. Don’t cherry pick the good stuff. Look at it all. I promise you, it’ll open your eyes, and you’ll drop that avatar immediately.

    • tapatio

      Two weeks before the first bomb was dropped, Japan had requested surrender terms from the US. Truman and Dr Strangelove (Edward Teller) wanted to demonstrate America’s power over the world.

      • Poptoy1949

        The U.S. Replied with Unconditional Surrender only. You are trying to rewrite History. Not very good at it either.

      • General-Zod

        Total surrender, not surrender with conditions.

      • Michael Stones

        I personally think they were test’s to see the result an atomic bomb would have on an actual city and I believe it was a war crime too

        • tapatio

          That was probably a major factor. Roosevelt had decided against using the atomic bomb unless absolutely necessary. After his death, Edward Teller, a former assistant to Einstein, convinced Truman (one of the morally weakest, most corrupt presidents in US history) to use the bomb on two Japanese civilian targets.

          I do know that, according to Einstein, Edward Teller (portrayed by Dr Strangelove) was a rabid Zionist and an evil person. Einstein, after the first test at White Sands, NM, became a strong opponent of nuclear energy in any form – he even suggested that nuclear science be outlawed.

          I think that an even greater motive for the use of atomic bombs was to demonstrate to the world that the United States was the world’s super-power and would make the rules. Truman was very heavily influenced by the same predatory banks and corporations that control the US today.

  • skng88 .

    Given the time and period, and what Japanese had done to million of men and women and children if these bombs weren’t dropped the future of the world today will be very different!

  • Marvin H
  • Steve Anderson

    I sure thought we were better than what this article gives reference to. Somehow a lot of people forgot everything we stand for since 1950. I really believe a lot of people do not understand that how important Harry TRUEMAN was to the people of Japan. They knew he meant it so do I. The last 60 years has seen a rise in millions of people coming here. That’s great most went home as the law says. But this paperclip and SS stuff simply took it all away. I believe that after Kennedy was killed we died too. Now finally a long list of leaders steps forward and removes us from the yoke of Nazi imperialists. With the complete destruction of German society the plan now is to censor all thought and put anyone who even mutters anything bad about a radical muzzie merkel puts you in Jail. What a disjointed world we live in. Fighting for peace was understood in the 40’s. Not now but really folks when you look at it why stand we here idle as the fellow founder of our country said is life so dear to be purchased at the price of slavery. We don’t in the heart of America basically put up with anyone telling us what to do. Good so be it might as well destroy earth because the human will not live like this forever. All the talk is for not this land USA is blessed by God and our people. We have the power and we make the peace for ourselves. This worlds people will NEVER be united. So as we move ahead in the light of our Father our only leader, God.

    • Defekkto Desautels

      As long as there are enough people like you in the world, you may be right and there will not be peace. Seriously ‘fighting for peace’ xD Read that out loud a few times and see if it sinks in just how stupid it is.

  • Eric Bolt

    this was 100% for Zionism-! they criminally over took the USA in the 1800’s-! Jews were behind all Atrocities of WW2, leading Weak minded Christians the wrong Way, Just like they do today-! 9/11, Oklahoma City, > were ‘Soldiers of God,’ not one 9/11 Terrorist, has been Captured brought to Justice Just like the Terrorist Jews behind WW2-!

  • Karen Cawley Keever

    This title of this article is atrocious, and an insult to our vets. It was not a terrorist act, it was WAR for which many American men gave their lives. The bombing put an end to the war and saved American men. Comparing it to a holocaust is not only ridiculous it is anti-American. I don’t know where you Matt Agorist went to school, but the decimation of Hiroshima was part of my history class.

    • Hugh Culliton

      You’re thinking with your emotions and not looking at the facts. The truth is never an “insult to Vets”. Of course strategic bombing offensives – nuclear and conventional – were holocausts, and yes, they do meet the criteria of state terrorism.

      What do you mean by “anti-American”? Do you think that the critical study of historical events should be changed to make them more palatable? Just because it offends your sensibilities doesn’t mean it never happened. That’s Orwellian and the true disservice to vets. Besides terrorism is as American as apple pie. America freely commits acts of terror every day – extraordinary rendition, enhanced interrogation, assassination of Americans without due process via drone strikes, and the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children around the world by drone as well.

      The decision to use the A-Bomb is still very hotly contested. Patriotic emotions aside, there is a very strong case to be made that it was in fact, an act of terrorism. After all, the definition of terrorism is “an act of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims”. Were the a-bombs violent? Yes. Was the strategic goal of their use to intimidate Japan into surrendering? Yes. Was their use political?

      Now we need to remember that in the context of the allies in WW2, these weren’t the only such acts, for were they even the most destructive or deadly – for example, the Tokyo firestorm of 9-10 March, 1945 is still the most destructive bombing raid in history. It has been argued that the Allied strategic bombing campaigns in Europe and against Japan by Britain, Canada, and the US were acts of terror as well.

      Accuracy was impossible and so bombing raids focused on cities rather than specific targets. As well, at least up to 1943, strategic bombing on both sides were conducted with the hope that such devastation on the home front against “soft” targets would eventually break the enemy’s will to fight. This ultimately proved false, but the campaign continued with the aim of destroying the enemy’s infrastructure, which worked better.

      So if you want to be a true patriot, stop buying the government and media’s B.S. spin, and take a critical look at what America really does both at home and abroad, and if you don’t like it, do something about it. Doing anything less would truly be un-American.

  • Lindsay Gough

    And good fucking on them! My Father was serving in the Pacific with the Royal New Zealand Airforce at the time. Never hear any of you revisionist arseholes talking about the tens of thousand civilians the Japs were killing every single week in Asia.

  • Canuck

    WW II was a hellish bloodbath and the true expression of ultimate industrial warfare in the 20the century where entire populations were in the firing line.

    We have to judge by the standards of the day and while we can second guess… Japan was an imperial power that was responsible for unspeakable acts of barbarity across Asia. They were also implacable and less inclined to surrender than any other population on the planet. To pretend that they were days away from total surrender is a LIE. Anybody who has studied WW II in detail knows that the general staff – even after TWO atom bombs had been dropped was in a stalemate on whether to accept the “unthinkable” (which was surrender, not annihilation – the Japanese would choose death over surrender without hesitation) – which was only done when the Emperor himself was brought in to break the tie.

    The fact is, as the article points out, that conventional bombing already killed many more people than the two atom bombs and a conventional assault would have resulted in millions of Japanese deaths and probably half a million US Servicemen.

    In the sick calculus of war, the atom bombs SAVED LIVES. On both sides, both Japanese and US.

    To pretend this is otherwise is to delude oneself. Do we all wish it hadn’t happened? Yes, the civilian bombings of the 2nd world war were an abomination.

    This is why we should not start wars and avoid them at almost all costs.

  • Michael658

    We were involved in a declared state of war with Japan. That war needed to end, and the bombs were dropped to accomplish that goal.. They did.

  • Real Truth stings

    I disagree with those attacks being characterized as “terrorism”. We were in a hellish war where the first to get the most powerful weapon would win and essentially decide the fate of the world. This action should never be mistaken with the iraq invasion and the non-existent WMDs. THAT was an act of terrorism on the part of our nation.

  • W Bowman

    The people/person who created this photo clearly has no clue about WWII. The Japanese could have surrendered prior to the dropping of the bombs. The military government chose to fight on and condemn their people to this inevitable outcome. Operation Downfall (proposed invasion of Japan by (operation Olympic 800,000 personnel and operation Coronet 1.1 million) or the reasons behind the dropping of the bomb. It is also universally accepted that the casualty count was significantly less than estimates for an invasion. As an example of their ignorance (or stupidity) depending on how you view it. The fire bombing of Dresden Germany and Tokyo actually had more casualties than either Nagasaki or Hiroshima. Nor in a “total war” is killing of civilians considered murder. Both sides, Japanese included, targeted civilians. One could also argue, the terror acts of the Japanese vs POWs and especially what the Japanese did to the the Chinese (Manchuria) were far worse than the dropping of the atomic bombs. (Karma is a bitch) Whom ever wrote this needs to be kicked in the head.

  • General-Zod

    That’s not terrorism, not even close. Dropping the Atomic Bomb on Japan actually saved potentially millions of lives. An invasion of Japan would have cost he US military up to 500,000 men killed. It would have resulted in millions of Japanese dying to defend their country.

    It’s pure garbage to call this an act of terrorism. This was War. Pearl Harbor was more akin to an act of terrorism.

    • Mace Neville

      Label it what you like. The bombs were dropped unnecessarily.

      http://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig2/denson7.html

      From the article:
      The stark fact is that the Japanese leaders, both military
      and civilian, including the Emperor, were willing to surrender in May of 1945
      if the Emperor could remain in place and not be subjected to a war crimes trial
      after the war. This fact became known to President Truman as early as May of
      1945.
      After the bombs were dropped on August 6 and 9 of 1945, and their surrender soon thereafter, the Japanese were allowed to keep their Emperor on the throne and he was not subjected to any war crimes trial. The Emperor, Hirohito, came on the throne in 1926 and continued in his position until his death in 1989. Since President Truman, in effect, accepted the conditional surrender offered by the Japanese as early as May of 1945, the question is posed, “Why then were the bombs dropped?”

      • General-Zod

        Offering surrender and being sincere are two entirely separate things. While Hirohito was offering his ‘surrender’ The US Navy and Marines were engaged in a fight for their lives to rid Island after Island of Japanese Troops.

        He displayed no such desire for peace because he did not offer a truce, he wanted his army to keep fighting. He could have offered a truce and asked his military to stand down, as the US would have done with their troops and a ceasefire would have taken effect. During that time any details to finalize a surrender would have been worked out.

        The US demanded unconditional surrender. As did the rest of the world. Hirohito was a war criminal. That’s surrender with condition. When a superior foe tells you to quit completely and you say ‘only under these conditions’ you are still at war with that foe.

        Your knowledge of history is skewed into thinking that the Japanese had any desire for peace in their hearts. 2 Atomic bombs ended the war for good.

        Japan already broke their word once and that led to the Pearl Harbor attack. Pretending to be negotiating with the US, all the while planning a massive attack and moving an invasion fleet in while negotiations were taking place. Japan’s word meant nothing from that point on.

        • Mace

          You make some interesting points.

          I contend that conditional surrender is still surrender.
          I also contend that not being able to hold one person accountable for war crimes, does not justify the even greater war crime of ordering a weapon to kill 100,000 CIVILIANS.
          The killing of civilians is a war crime.
          A. Let one person off scot-free.
          B. Kill 100,000 civilians.
          That isn’t a choice. Its a no-brainer.

          And of course 2 Atomic bombs ended the war.
          When your enemy is willing to kill 100,000 non-combatants with a single weapon… there is no chance but surrender.

  • General-Zod

    Just want to give a shout out to Tapatio, the troll that ruins this thread. For your information, he goes under different aliases. He is a known sex offender and also has Herpes.

    • tapatio

      That’s right, hasbarat. We are going to ruin your whole cult of baboons.

      “Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.”
      Moshe Dayan

      RABID DOGS ARE DESTROYED FOR THE GOOD OF HUMANITY. They are capable of NOTHING, except spreading their disease.

      Israeli Propagandists Threaten Destruction of Europe as Punishment for Boycotting Israel
      http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/israeli-propagandists-threaten-destruction-europe-punishment-boycotting-israel

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTE_Eshm2xw

      http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres10/SamsonOption.pdf

      Martin Van Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, has been quoted as saying: “Most European capitals are targets for our air force….We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”

      Israeli official justified Israel’s threats. “You Americans screwed us” in not supporting Israel in its 1956 war with Egypt. We can still remember the smell of Auschwitz and Treblinka. Next time we’ll take all of you with us.”

      Ariel Sharon said “We are much more important than Americans think. We can take the middle east with us whenever we go” and “Arabs may have the oil, but we have the matches.”

      Israeli President,Shimon Peres has admitted that nuclear weapons are used by Israel for “compellent purposes” – i.e., forcing others to accept Israeli political demands. In 1998 Peres was quoted as saying, “We have built a nuclear option, not in order to have a Hiroshima, but to have our own Oslo.” (BLACKMAIL)

      Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, said “If left to its own Israel will have no choice but to fall back on a riskier defense which will endanger itself and the world at large… To enable Israel to abstain from dependence on nuclear arms calls for $2 to 3 billion per year in U.S. aid.” (Clear Blackmail)

      The state of Israel has violated every treaty they have signed. Today they are the world’s most prolific violator of international law. According to the Pentagon, Israel has between 200 and 400 nuclear weapons, ranging from suitcase-size “terrorist” bombs to thermonuclear warheads. Israel also has deployed the “Jericho III” intercontinental ballistic missile system, capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to the Central United States. They also have submarines capable of launching nuclear armed missiles anywhere in the world.

      • General-Zod

        You’re more than welcome to try. Let the hate flow through you, hopefully you will have a heart attack from all of the stress..

  • General-Zod

    Tapatio, the legend continues

  • General-Zod

    Tapatio, somewhere your mother is calling out to you, from the cellar you locked her in.

  • Mace

    Bombs dropped for no reason except as a show of power. (apologies if this is a double post)

    http://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig2/denson7.html

    From the article:
    The stark fact is that the Japanese leaders, both military
    and civilian, including the Emperor, were willing to surrender in May of 1945
    if the Emperor could remain in place and not be subjected to a war crimes trial
    after the war. This fact became known to President Truman as early as May of
    1945.
    After the bombs were dropped on August 6 and 9 of 1945, and their surrender soon
    thereafter, the Japanese were allowed to keep their Emperor on the throne and
    he was not subjected to any war crimes trial.
    Since President Truman, in effect, accepted the conditional surrender offered by the
    Japanese as early as May of 1945, the question is posed, “Why then were
    the bombs dropped?”

  • David Hunter

    The bombing SAVED a million persons, by all educated military estimates. Japan would not surrender without an all out land attack on the main islands. They were FANATICAL, and in ways made the Nazis seem almost like gentlemen by comparison. Nukes should never be an option, but in that particular case, it was the only option.

  • Matt

    I may need to brush up on my history, but wasnt the bombing a retaliatory response to Japans attack on Hawaii ? It was a brutal message but somewhat justified as America didnt want to get involved in this war in the 1st place.

  • Syd Vishus

    Truman was NOT a True Man.

  • B Wiser

    an article to make Islamic scum-whose religion exists only because it murdered its way into existence and attempt some moral relativism. Sorry the US has done more for nations and people around the globe than all the other nations combined. What has Islam contributed in the last 200 years but savagery, illiteracy, murder ? Why are there so many “refugees” going to all these countries? Because the Muslims scumbag nations don’t want more Musli scumbags….a true cancer on this earth and humanity….Their perfect man was an illiterate, mentally defective, thieving child molester. Great role model..

  • Nathan Peterson

    Hiroshima’s population was not just civilian. It was around 20% military.

    Operation Downfall would claim millions more lives on both sides in a much more graphic way than what occurred.

    This article is very misleading. Of course the atom bombings were terrible, but not “terrorist acts” by any sense of the word.