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Cop Shoots and Kills Unarmed Deaf Man as He Tries to Communicate Using Sign Language

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Charlotte, NC — A community and family is mourning the loss of Daniel Kevin Harris, whose life was taken this week by a State Trooper who apparently fears sign language. Harris, who is deaf, was gunned down in front of his house.

According to police, trooper Jermaine Saunders attempted to pull Harris over around 6:14 p.m. on Thursday. For an unknown reason, Harris did not stop and, instead, drove to his home.

During the pursuit, both cars became damaged and eventually came to a stop near Harris’ home.

“I was here in my driveway and I saw the highway patrol car come through and it was smoking really bad,” said neighbor Mark Barringer. “About 10 seconds later, I heard one gunshot.”

According to WCNC, Barringer says when he went to take a closer look, he saw Harris in the middle of the street. He died just a few feet from his front door. Several neighbors have put flowers near where Harris took his final breaths.

“It was surreal, you just don’t expect to see something like that,” said Barringer. “When the gunshot went off, it was scary.”

According to police, detectives say Saunders and Harris got into “an encounter” before the officer killed him. However, according to neighbors, as soon as Harris got out of his vehicle, Saunders fired.

“While on Seven Oaks Drive, the driver exited his vehicle and an encounter took place between the driver and the trooper causing a shot to be fired,” according to a statement from the State Highway Patrol.

Detectives say Harris was trying to communicate with the trooper using sign language before he was killed.

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Harris died on the scene. He was 28-years-old.

“They should’ve deescalated and been trained to realize that this is an entirely different situation, you’re pulling someone over who is deaf, they are handicapped,” said Barringer.  “To me, what happened is totally unacceptable.”

Neighbor Ryan Russell said he’d see the man out in the neighborhood speaking in sign language with his family. “It seemed like a very peaceful family,” Russell told WBTV. “These things are always heartbreaking.”

Audria Bridges, special agent in charge of the SBI office that covers the Charlotte region, said Saunders has been placed on administrative leave and an investigation is underway.

“The SBI is in the process of obtaining all available dash cam or body camera video present on the scene from the State Highway Patrol as well as Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department, as CMPD responded to the scene immediately after the shooting,” Bridges said.

According to the Charlotte Observer, public records show an interpreter provided sign language for Harris at a court hearing in Florida in 2010. At the hearing, he was found not guilty of misdemeanor larceny and had a charge of misdemeanor resisting property recovery dismissed, records show.

Harris was found guilty of resisting an officer in 2010 when he lived in Connecticut, according to public records. However, this resisting charge was likely due to the fact that Harris could not hear the officer’s commands.

In the land of the free, a deaf man suspected of driving too fast can be killed in cold blood. Unfortunately, as we’ve shown time and again, this type of mistreatment and attacks on the deaf by police are all too common.

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Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world. and now on Steemit

  • Patricia Nye

    Beware – it is not just black people that cops are killing! When cops go rogue it is an administration problem!

    • kristin bantle

      Word…. the inequality; racism, sexism, xenophobia…. etc. is institutionalized through the academy and the thin blue line continues the ethos of us against them justifying assaults on communities through fear.

    • nas702

      No ones life is an administration problem. How very white if you to diminish someone’s life to such a never “issue” you are part of the problem.

      • Former Citizen

        How very racist of you to point out skin pigmentation while attempting a rebuttal.

        • ReBelle

          There is NO other way to make the point innocent brown skinned people are shoot daily by cops.

          • Deenohh

            Uhhh nooo. Police officers shoot an average of a 1000 people per year across the entire country and thats people of all colors and creeds. The fact is that less than 150 per year are minorities. The police shoot far more white people. The shooting of minorities is however over reported in the media so you hear it more. This is not a discussion on the justification of ANY of those shootings by police, merely a factual rebuttal to your made up “facts”

          • Lumixian

            Yep, and you can confirm this yourself by going to http://www.killedbypolice.net. They’ve been independently tracking police shootings for a while now.

            We’re at a point in our culture were you’re far more likely going to hear about Black victims at the hands of white cops in the media because that narrative brings with it most controversy and the very highest viewers for the various media outlets. These incidents then also traction very well on social media well due to the already built up controversy already present in the country with identity politics and social issues being at what seems like an all time high.

          • anna miller

            It also stirs the pot for divide and conquer potential race wars. Instead of all races joining to stand up to the NWO, people instead break down along racial lines. It is entirely orchestrated and the media whores are the pied pipers.

    • Jaalleman

      Dear Patricia, right you are! As i have said quite a few times here and else where, Yesterday it was Pookie and RayRay getting killed and no one said nothing – that it is a slippery slope was lost to most people.

      It is similar to my shock when i found out organizations behind Islamaphopia were for the most part Jewish or Jewish funded – I am talking about Pamella Geller and her ilk. Don’t they realize that the vicious dog they’re unleashing has a taste for Jewish flesh too – but i digress.

      Dear white people you should have decried the execution of Pookie and RayRay not out of altruism but out of self interest knowing tomorrow it might be you or yours.

      • scottrose

        Don’t you realize that most of the violent attacks against Jews in today’s world are carried out by Mulsims?

        • ReBelle

          You really might want to do some research.

        • JOHN MONDS

          and all attacks against Palestinians are by Jews, What’s your point?

        • Victor Rosez

          of course… we all are one of them!

        • saucetin

          How’d that smoking and drinking work out for ya, Hitch?

        • anna miller

          I respectfully disagree. The Zionist leadership of the Jews is behind the NWO. The wars in the Middle East are to ensure the creation of an expanded “greater Israel” under the Oded Yinon Plan, and the NeoCon PNAC plan, or Project For A New American Century, in which 7 sovereign Arab nations are destroyed. The Rothschild’s created the Federal Reserve, a private, central bank in 1913. You should do the research. The Zionists kill 2 birds with one stone. Create a greater Israel by having Americans fight the wars, and create war refugees to flood into and destroy the cultural heritage of Europe. The Zionist leaders of the Jews, are more than willing to sacrifice a certain percentage of Jews for the overall plan. Besides, the Jews will be encouraged to move to Israel, another main goal. Please watch this video, 12 minutes, at one time I also was duped on this issue.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfKOU31cteg

        • Jaalleman

          @Scottrose You steal a whole nation then blame the victims for the audacity of resisting – Zionism a blot on humanity surely destined for the dustbin of history.

          I think you should blame Al Gore for inventing the internet because your little shitty apartheid state is now open for all decent folk to see. No amount of hasbara will put this genie back in the bottle.

          One day soon, the American people will wake up and take their congress/media/wallstreet back and its lights out for that cesspool of hate you call Israel. No country in contemporary times is as dependent on its very existence on another country yet is so effing arrogant.

          Millions of Muslims are dead because your jewish American neocons found a way to use the might of the US military to do the killings for your shitty little country and yet here you are playing the victim.

      • ReBelle

        many of us did, have and continue to protest LOUDLY the injustice to brown skinned people in this country!

        • Ninthlive

          It’s not just brown people Rebelle. Was this dude brown? It’s all people because local police forces are getting all expense paid trips to Israel for training on how American police should be treating American citizens the way the IDF treats the Palestinians. Look it up. The ADL and JINSA are behind it all, so get of the color thing. It’s a divide and conquer ploy that’s been used too many times, way too long, with way too much success.

          • anna miller

            Brilliant response. People need to wake up to the real Controllers. The Jews funded and carried out the Bolshevik Revolution. Innocent people were systematically starved to death, arrested and tortured, murdered outright, or locked away in the labor camps notorious Gulag system. appx 60 million innocent humans were killed. stay strong and thanks for speaking out!

          • Ninthlive

            Same to you Anna! I see you’re all over it on a lot of different threads. Very encouraging!
            Best to you and yours… =)

    • JOHN MONDS

      Many have been saying this for some time now, but it’s not heard because the victim is always considered a “thug”. I don’t think this guy fits the thug description and he’s still dead. A bad cop is a bad cop, simple.

    • Lumixian

      It never was “just Black people” that cops were killing, that’s just the media narrative that sells the best in this country due to it being highly controversial. Every time an unarmed someone dies by the hands of a cop, it tends to make local news, but the common white cop killing a Black unarmed victim has the highest potential to go national (and then viral) due to the built-up media hype surrounding race and identity politics in this country.

      • sciguy

        You are missing the point, more white people are killed.by raw numbers, more minority per capita. Also the disparity in killing unarmed black people under 29 to white, is more than 20x…

        Yes, it hAppens to whites too, but cops can get away with brutalized black people more often without repercussions and it normalized the abuse. Or as a college professor of mine would say, nothing America has ever done to black people has it not gotten around to doing to white people. Many of the mot egregious examples are black… Its been this way for decades, now it’s just police culture, so a lot of white people are finally seeing the disrespect..

        What I don’t understand is, why is it impossible to care about.the issue if the conversation is centered on black people? Why must whiteness be central? If it’s just as bad for white people, shouldn’t you show solidarity with black people against police brutality? #blm is always promoting the stories of white victims. But if we don’t advocate for ourselves, the problem may be addressed just enough to satisfy white people, while the rampant abuse documented in the Baltimore doj report continues

      • anna miller

        The recent riots in Minnesota involved a black cop killing a black man . But that fact is not mentioned by mainstream media whores.

        • J-dawg

          What are you talking about? Philando Castile was shot by a Hispanic officer. And there were no riots. Are you talking about Milwaukee? That is not in Minnesota.

          • anna miller

            Yes, OK. it was Milwaukee, not MN. But the officer was black, and the suspect had a long history of criminality.

            Bodycam Shows Black Milwaukee Officer Shot Suspect, Sylville Smith, Who Was Raising Gun. A semiautomatic handgun recovered at the scene was stolen in a burglary
            from a home in Waukesha, Wisconsin, in March 2016. The burglary victim
            said 500 rounds of ammunition were also taken.

            A search of Wisconsin court records revealed several arrests, but
            only one misdemeanor conviction for Sylville Smith. His record also
            included traffic offenses. No felony convictions were found.

            The misdemeanor conviction, for carrying a concealed weapon, came in
            July 2014. He pleaded guilty to the charge and was fined $443 and
            ordered to serve one day in jail.

            His record also included guilty findings on traffic offenses for
            speeding, operating a motor vehicle without insurance, possession of
            open intoxicants in a motor vehicle and operating a motor vehicle with a
            suspended license.

            Smith was arrested in 2015 on a charge of intimidating a witness by a
            person charged with a felony, which is itself a felony offense. The
            case was dropped later that year by the prosecutor.

            He was also charged with first-degree recklessly endangering safety, a
            felony, and misdemeanor possession of THC earlier in 2015. Those
            charges were dismissed by a judge based on a motion by the defense.
            Why are there no riots for the blacks murdered by such thugs? The Black Lives Matter
            movement shoots itself in its own foot, by rioting over a thug attempting to kill a cop.
            Is there police corruption & brutality, yes. Why not focus the rage on the genuine bad cops murdering the innocent? That is because the evil Soros funded BLM, is a controlled opposition movement,designed not to stop bad cops and corruption but stir up hatred between the races.

  • DeafGator

    “Deaf and Mute” (or even just “mute,” when applied people who do not speak) is an archaic term that is considered offensive.

    May deaf people do not use a spoken language, thus are technically “mute.” The word “mute” has an archaic meaning that means “dumb.” Of course, the word “mute” also has another more common meaning now that implies which certainly is not applicable to most deaf people.

    Muteness is a medical/physiological condition that has nothing to do with being deaf. Many deaf people do not use their voices (with hearing people) because they are not understood and/or because it is difficult to monitor the volume.
    “Muteness” or the inability to speak orally, certainly has much to do with being deaf. Anyone who knows deaf individuals who have been deaf since birth or early childhood, knows that their inability to speak orally results from having never heard the spoken word. It is not fear of “not being understood” and it is not fear of “difficulty in monitoring the volume” that results in their inability to speak orally.
    Given the history of deafness, and the fact that deaf people have been incorrectly assumed to be mentally deficient just because they do not speak, you can imagine that most deaf people do not appreciate being called “deaf and mute.”

    Today, anyone using the word “mute” in such context is … well … dumb.

    Please see that you update your article eliminate word of “mute.”

    • hang3xc

      I am nearing 50 and have never thought of mute to mean “mentally deficient”. Does every single name ever given to anything have to become an insult??? FFS

      • Craig Schmalz

        Yes…everyone is offended by everything. Tomorrow the word deaf will be derogatory. I’m sure it already is. Auditorily incapacitated. Aural incapability. Can’t even have a conversation anymore without having to jump through hoops so you don’t offend someone with a word.

    • Doug

      Feelings got hurt……waaaa.

    • Alexandra Waisanen

      Wow… I sincerely hope that you’re being sarcastic otherwise you poor dear, have a lot of sand in your vag. I would believe that no one thinks a person is dumb when they hear the term “mute”. Just incapable of speech. That is, except for you. So, I guess you think that someone who is mute is dumb.

      • theoneandonlyridor

        As Deaf person, you don’t speak for me. I agreed with DeafGator. It is offensive slur to our community. Get a grip, would you call f****t to gay people? n**** to black people? Same idea. Sit down, you little vixen bitch.

      • PJ London

        You are really stupid :
        ‘Dumb’ : temporarily unable or unwilling to speak.
        “she stood dumb while he poured out a stream of abuse”
        synonyms: mute, unable to speak, without the power of speech;
        make dumb or unheard; silence.
        Mute and Dumb are interchangeable.

        Note I did not call you Dumb just stupid.

        • J-dawg

          Mute and dumb are different words with different connotations. That’s why they aren’t the same word.

          • PJ London

            No sh1t Sherlock. Did you work that out for yourself or did you get help?

          • J-dawg

            Just trying to help you understand that fact, since it seems to so fully elude you.

          • PJ London

            OK you got help.

          • J-dawg

            Obviously not, but you clearly need some.

    • nas702

      Smh. Get over yourself. It is not offensive and it us not up to you to tell anyone when they should be offended. That is the correct term, you are just an idiot.

      • theoneandonlyridor

        You are not sensitive, you are ignorant and a piece of shit.

      • michael

        it may not be offensive to you but it is in the majority of the deaf community

    • Frank Atkisson

      Take a hike you nitpicking moron.

    • fatscottridesagain

      F*&K off. Do you understand that, or are you mute? Now call my waitress over and have her give me the check. I’m in a hurry. I have a flight to catch, so I can harass a stewardess.

    • Ken Warren

      But what if this individual was, indeed, mute?

      • theoneandonlyridor

        Ken, you are stupid. I know who Daniel Harris was. He was not mute, I can guarantee that.

      • DeafGator

        Can Daniel Harris scream? If so, not mute!

        • Ken Warren

          That was a mindless and irrelevant comment that did not add to any degree of understanding of the topic at hand. For one, from the article as presented, we have no knowledge if he did or could scream. There are people incapable of such vocalizations, and I have no knowledge, nor do you evidence any knowledge, of a definitive answer regarding the victims ability in such regard.

    • cowcharge

      But it’s OK, since they can’t hear you say it.

    • J-dawg

      Mute means “doesn’t speak.” That’s all it means. Forcing society to keep inventing new words that mean the same thing because a group the word applies to decides it makes them feel bad is idiotic.

  • punkinnk

    this is why we need to bring back Old Sparky and Fry bad Pigs

    • James

      the stocks are a better idea.

      • n4zhg

        The Boats are an even better idea.

        • James

          as in throwing them overboard?

    • william l. morris

      Tall Tree = Short Rope !!!

    • Emma

      Are you people serious??!!
      The “victim” in this case was.a deaf mute.
      The cop was.probably pumped on adrenaline & killed this young man.
      Bad move.
      All cops are not bad, but the bad ones are the ones who get the press!
      How about the cop who dove into freezing river to rescue a young woman & her 2 babies?
      Or the cop onsite of a fire went in to rescue an 82 yr old woman?
      He saved her, at great harm to himself.
      Both of these cops were white.
      The people they risked their lives to save were not.
      Try actually using your head for something besides a hat rack!
      Each incident needs to be judged on its’ own merits.
      On the surface, it doesn’t look good for this cop….but…no one knows what actually happened yet.
      I am sick of the mob mentality.
      There is never any good to come of it & it makes a bad situation worse,
      Wait for the facts…then talk..reasonably & responsibly, as human beings… not rabid dogs

      • Calvin Pierce Jr

        The dude is dead, so I guess he paid the price for all the good and brave cops. Does that equal the scale.

        • Emma

          Don’t be rediculous.
          This isn’t a football game.
          I said the bad ones get the press. Good guys don’t.
          A lot of people are afraid of the police.Police are afraid of the citizens.
          You can thank this obama illegal regime for that.
          There are dirty cops, but the good ones by far & away outnumber the dirty ones.
          Just wait for the facts to come out.
          It is sad it happened. Now we wait to see if it was murder.

          • Objectless

            The “good” cops protect the bad ones… until that changes all cops are pieces of shit.

          • PJ London

            OK try and spin the idea that an unarmed, deaf mute, who may have committed a traffic violation, was killed by police gunfire into ‘justifiable homicide’.
            It was plain cold blooded murder by a fool who should not be allowed out of a playpen.

          • Emma

            From what I have read thus far, does not look good for the cop.
            I can think of several scenarios where it could reasonably happen.
            The young man should have stopped. Even deaf, he has a rear view & side mirrors.
            He may have tried to outrun & jumped out ao his vehicle to run in his home.
            The cop was not, even with those scenarios, justified in shooting him.
            We have too many who are not properly trained, nor psychologically screened properly, if at all.
            This is what we get.

          • Emma

            It does appear that may very well be the case, but we do not have all the facts yet.
            I will say it does not look good for the cop with what little we do know.

          • Objectless

            How exactly is a democratically elected president a part of a illegal regime? Do you ever take a minute to think about how asinine the crap that froths from your mouth is?

          • Emma

            obama was not elected, but installed.
            They will try the same tactics with killary.
            Won’t work this time,
            Don’t post to me again please.Ty

          • Objectless

            I will “post to you” as I wish. Obama was elected, twice. Pull your head out of your ass.

          • Emma

            No, you will not.

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            Emma
            Did you block the Sucker ???
            I would have !

          • Emma

            Yes. I did.
            There is a line one does not cross.

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            Awesome
            I can always count on you to do the right thing !

          • Emma

            Thank you.
            Bad behaviour will not change left unaddressed.

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            2 Points Emma !

          • Emma

            ?TY?

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            Emma,
            The Best Thing Yet.
            Body and Dash Cams !
            Not wearing a functioning Body Cam,
            (No Case)
            A Body Cam, is an Unbiased Witness for the Truth !
            (Retired LEO)

          • Emma

            Absolutely.
            Keeps EVERYone honest.
            It is a shame because all of this has been orchestrated to divide, separate, instill mistrust & fear between police & citizens.
            It has evidently been a great success.
            I talk to people . So many .
            The police never know any more, legitimate call.. or set up.
            Citizen.. should I call, or will I be killed or arrested?
            We have to fix this. Body cams … always… as essential as your weapon.
            The warrantless searches need to stop.
            The militarization of our police needs ended.
            Cops need to be seen as who & what they are.. human beings first. Same with citizens. Human beings first.
            I so want a happy world.;)

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            A considerable amount of damage has been done on both sides.
            Bring home young men from the war in the middle east and not
            psychologically reintroducing them to their (Home) USA, causes a lot
            of readjusting not to normally happen.
            (The Young Police Officers think they
            are still in the Middle East War Zone)
            The Attempted Federalization of all Law Enforcement turning
            Citizen Against Citizen, and Citizen Against Law Enforcement !
            (UNITED NATIONS AGENDA 21)

          • Emma

            You are right, & these young vets …so many go into law enforcement before being
            “Decompressed” as it were.
            I may not be stating that exactly right, but as close as I can come.
            They are not psycologically ready or prepared for civilian
            life,

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            Definitely a Huge Problem !

          • Objectless

            Ohh hey.. look at that… I’m posting to you….

          • Objectless

            And still posting to you…

          • Objectless

            And still posting…

          • Objectless

            So it’s been a while, just wanted to post you again to make sure you are fine and stuff… Hows ignorantville?

          • Objectless

            Its been 17 days, it feels like it was yesterday. #stillpostin

          • Objectless

            For someone that is anti-PC, you people sure love to quell opposition by demanding to not be confronted about your asinine ideologies. It’s kinda counterproductive don’tcha think?

            But I’m sorry, I forgot I’m not allowed to “post to you”… But my reply button just keeps working….. Nifty.

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            Emma,
            Hillary for Prison
            2016

          • Emma

            Amen!!!! Or worse..;-)

      • ReBelle

        They are PAID PUBLIC SERVANTS! Paid with OUR TAX $$$. If we don’t do our job we are fired and deservedly so, the same goes for cops!! They know what the hell the job description is BEFORE they take the job!

      • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

        The whole Good Cop / Bad Cop question can be disposed of much more
        decisively. We need not enumerate what proportion of cops appears to be
        good or listen to someone’s anecdote about his uncle Charlie, an
        allegedly good cop.
        We need only consider the following:
        A cop’s job is to enforce the laws, all of them;
        Many of the laws are manifestly unjust, and some are even cruel and wicked;
        Therefore every cop has to agree to act as an enforcer for laws that are manifestly unjust or even cruel and wicked.
        There are no good cops. – Robert Higgs

        • Emma

          I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
          There are good cops. I have experienced them.
          I have also experienced the other kind.
          The good far outnumbered the bad.

          • PJ London

            Repeat from above
            You are wrong, ‘Good cops’ would have arrested and charged the bad cops years ago, If the cops themselves do not arrest and charge every time they see a ‘bad cop’ going off reservation, then they are not ‘good cops’.
            You see hundreds of instances where the cops colleagues stand aside and let the ‘bad cop’ break the law. Often the ‘bad cop’ is the superior.
            There are NO good cops.
            (I know several ex-cops who left rather than be caught up in the situation. Several had death threats for not being willing to overlook the corruption and extortion.)

          • Emma

            That tells you there ARE good ones.
            A shame they had to leave because they WERE GOOD..

          • PJ London

            No, they are ex-cops because being ‘good’ and being a cop at the same time is not possible.
            They had a choice, be good or be a cop.
            They knew that whilst they were cops, they could not be ‘good’ persons.

          • Emma

            In many cases I know that to be fact.
            Because I have seen it.
            Both kinds.

        • sciguy

          Always say this…. But a less deep point for Emma… It should not be individual discretion whether a cop is good or a murderous psychopath, nor should good be defined as NOY being a murderous psychopath…. That puts the bar very low for the behavior of enforcers of law in the prison capital of the world

      • sanduchi

        We know there are “good” cops Emma, we are not idiots but today there are too many that react like this and not enough that react like the cop who jumped into the freezing water. This did not happen years ago. The bad cop was the exception and today they are more and more becoming the rule. We need better picking and better training.

        • PJ London

          You are wrong, ‘Good cops’ would have arrested and charged the bad cops years ago, If the cops themselves do not arrest and charge every time they see a ‘bad cop’ going off reservation, then they are not ‘good cops’.
          You see hundreds of instances where the cops colleagues stand aside and let the ‘bad cop’ break the law. Often the ‘bad cop’ is the superior.
          There are NO good cops.
          (I know several ex-cops who left rather than be caught up in the situation. Several had death threats for not being willing to overlook the corruption and extortion.)

      • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

        More Common Sense
        Thank You Miss Emma !

  • Buddy Jones

    When will the public learn , that if we keep letting the police investigate the police , They will never find and wrong doing ..

    • Daniel Carson

      Need to have a independent Citizen Review board.. Or council..

      • Juan R Martinez

        If any citizen on that board works for the city, county or state the cop,s got it made

        • Marcus

          For example, see Chicago.

        • magormissabib

          It wont work. that is why cops are getting killed. People have no remedy

    • Reg Dunlop

      When are you joining the Police Force ??

    • Tommy Barnes

      My son was killed by police and their investigatio on themselves is in their favor from the jump. Look at keisha kalip graham fb page for live audio of how they treat victims they label as suspects

      • Bill the Cat

        Spare everyone.

        Folks like you burned Milwaukee and went “polar-bear” hunting, because you’d “heard” that another “innocent” black man was gunned down by whitey.

        Turns out the “innocent” guy had a lengthy rap sheet and “whitey” was a black police officer. Hey, just an honest mistake, right? Word, homes!

        And you think someone is going to believe a FB page? LMAO :>)

        Clean up your own mess.

        • AppalachianMatt

          Who pissed in your corn flakes? Do you seriously just go around an troll people in between eating your Mom’s leftover Meatloaf. You are a truly sad little orange cat. Of course you probably have at least 6 cats that sleep in bed with you.

          • Bill the Cat

            Troll? LMAO 🙂

            Suck it, matti.

            Everything I said above is factual and if that’s creating a wad in your panties, that’s you problem.

          • AppalachianMatt

            There is some truth to what you say but still doesn’t mean you’re not a pompous assface. I find it rather odd you are thinking of me in panties.

          • Bill the Cat

            Matti, I really don’t care if you think I’m “pompous assface.” That’s your problem LOL

            In Re: panties. Either your reading comprehension sucks even worse than appears or you’ve been reduced to stupid Strawman arguments.

            Followups from idiot ignored.

          • ZM

            AppalachianMatt is triggered!

        • Real Dude82

          Just fu king kill yourself you low life piece of dog sh!t

          • Bill the Cat

            LOL 🙂

            I’d tell you to “suck it,” but you’d probably hear that a lot in airport bathrooms.

        • John Foytek

          racist

          • Bill the Cat

            LMAO 🙂

            So you’re calling me a “racist” for pointing out that it was a black cop who shot a black criminal and, because of that, blacks decided it was time to go out and beat the crap out of white people who had nothing to do with any of it?

            Well, John, if pointing out the truth is “racist,” then you just go right ahead and scream that at me LOL

            My only response to you is, “Thanks for noticing!”

            Idiot 🙂

  • Chris Wegner Boehning

    When will people that do NOT deal with the Deaf community or any other disability or race or something they do not have to deal with everyday that is beyond their control(something they are born with) when will they realize they have no opinion in the matter. I am sorry I am a person that feels everyone has an opinion but sometimes those opinions need to stay in your head and NOT in the open. When a person calls a person a mute it is just not right just because they are deaf. My mom has been deaf all her life, as are her three sisters. NONE of them are mute by any means. They just do not talk because people will not understand them. Kinda like saying someone that speaks a different language is mute because you do not understand them. Do you do that???? Their speech is fine and if they could hear they would be able to speak just fine it is the point that they can NOT hear that they are saying and in some cases have never heard themselves talk. There lays the problem. People that can hear will NEVER know that it is like because even if their plug their ears they can still hear the internal sound as where most of the deaf community do not have the internal sound. You may think calling them mute is OK and not a problem. I do not even look at it that people are saying it because they are dumb. The old saying used to be deaf and dumb, so guess mute is a better word? Ummm nah because they are NOT mute they are deaf or hard of hearing.

    So unless you are deaf or have to deal with deaf people do NOT sit here and say what YOU think is right in how to address their disability. BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CLUE.

    • Mark Derenberger

      mute
      adjective [ not gradable ] US ​ /mjut/

      (of a person) completely unable or unwilling to speak, or (of a place, object, or activity) silent:

      So how is this definition of the word (from the Cambridge dictionary) incorrect in the context of a non-hearing individual who chooses not to speak verbally? I’m confused as to how it is offensive when NO ONE I’ve ever encountered has used it as an insult or even associates it with being unintelligent/dumb.

      And if “mute” is an offensive way to say that someone doesn’t speak verbally, then what is the proper word? No one has seemed to suggest that there is another more acceptable term.

      I am not attacking anyone at all. But if this word is not proper, even though its definition seems to point to it being proper, then please suggest an alternative before lambasting those who are using the word just as the dictionary defines it.

      • Spiraling systems

        This definition has a key word “completely”. Most Deaf people are not commpletely unable or unwilling to speak. Completeley, from the very same dictionary:

        “completely
        adverb UK ​ /kəmˈpliːt.li/ US ​ /kəmˈpliːt.li/

        in every way or as much as possible:”

        A Deaf person may be completely unintelligible when they speak (or may have better clarity of speech and English production than many hearing) and every thing in between. But that does not render them completely unable or unwilling to speak, even if they choose not to so so with hearing people on a regular basis, or the hearing person can completely no understand them. Should I pull the definition of regular? Hint: Its not a synonym with completely. Thus, you are not using the word as the dictionary has defined it.

        The alternative is this; Deaf. Do not add mute. If a specific individual is not able to be understood by speech, you can describe it in the article. Here are some other synonyms: Non-verbal. Does not speak English. Uses sign language to communicate. The key here is that the man is Deaf, which prevents him from hearing commands, and might influence whether he is able to communicate sufficiently in English. Nothing is known about his verbal abilities, especially whether his vocal cords can produce sound, or his neuro-cognitive structure prohibits the use of his vocal cords.

        How is it offensive when no one you know uses it as an intentional insult? First , lets say your experience isn’t the center of all experience for the Deaf. just because no one you’ve ever encountered has used it in a way you find to be hurtful doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen or its not hurtful. Second, that goes back to historical treatment of Deaf people as inferior and less, which has a whole host of impact on Deaf people as a group and how hearing people treat Deaf people, sometimes with social harm, even when they don’t mean to insult someone. That’s why its offensive.

        I’m not attacking you either. I’m explaining. But you can either sit with it and think about it and learn more, or you can double down on your defensiveness and continue to try to come up with why the word mute should be used in this context even when Deaf people and people who live with, work with and have other relationships with Deaf people say its a problem. Even when there are clearly alternatives, that you could have found yourself without being spoonfed, but now you’ve been given. Thats entirely up to you.

        • Mark Derenberger

          It says “OR unwilling”. And that is the case. So it’s accurate. If a deaf person CHOOSES not to verbalize, than they are unwilling to communicate that way. Still an accurate definition for that individual. And the word “deaf” alone does not encompass “not speaking”, so it does not in and of itself specify what needed to be specified for this article…. that he either could not or chose not to speak with the officer.

          No one should be chastised for using the term that is accurate in definition and common in usage when there is no clearly “better” way to describe the condition of that individual. Mute isn’t a negative term, as far as anyone in the general population believes. It doesn’t even seem to be a negative term to most deaf people who don’t verbally communicate. And it is NOT the same as calling someone deaf and dumb. I am very sensitive to offensive terminology, but I fail to see how the term mute is offensive. There are alternatives, which have been outlined in your reply, but how long is it going to be until those are considered offensive as well, just as now I’m being told that mute is offensive as a replacement for dumb…. even though it’s accurate by definition as someone who is unwilling to speak?

          • theoneandonlyridor

            Sit down, Mark. You said you’re sensitive, you’re not being respectful towards Deaf people’s wishes. We don’t like “deaf & mute”. SIT DOWN!!!

      • Emma

        Many say non verbal.
        In our family we don’t.
        It is just our normal every day life.;)
        Joel is not disabled. He simply is deaf & mute.
        Normal 14 yr old kid 🙂

      • theoneandonlyridor

        Stop calling us Deaf & Mute. Many of us preferred to be Deaf. Respect us!

        • Mark Derenberger

          No one said anything disrespectful. Monks also choose to live in silence, but no one seems to have a problem with them being called mute. I’ll respectfully call anyone anything they want to be called. But this article was stating someone that is deaf and doesn’t speak verbally was shot and killed by an ignorant officer of the law. They simply used the dictionary’s definition to accurately describe that the victim does not communicate verbally. They didn’t use the archaic word “dumb”, which originally meant ONLY that someone doesn’t speak, and nothing more. THAT word has mostly stopped being used because it was warped in German to mean “stupid or ignorant” as well as silent. “Mute” does not mean EITHER of those things, so the thought that it is somehow offensive seems manufactured to many people. As I said, I’m very sensitive to derogatory terminology. But that doesn’t mean that people should twist every word into a negative connotation that doesn’t exist with it. I respect your view, but I don’t feel that anyone has given any logical examples of how the word is insulting.

          • theoneandonlyridor

            Daniel can speak on his own if he wants to. His language is American Sign Language. That is his verbal language. Someone already told you why. Mute has been long-time associated with dumb “deaf and dumb’ then “deaf and mute” – knock it off. Do you call black people n-word? You don’t do that. Do you call gays “f-word”? You don’t do that. To us, Mute associated with Deaf & Mute is a slur. An offensive slur at me as Deaf person. You are a f***ing hearing person. You can’t speak for me, I’m Deaf person, I came from a long line of Deaf generations. I happen to know the brother of Daniel Harris. You are being disrespectful by being so stubborn in calling us with a slur. So **** off.

          • Mark Derenberger

            I didn’t write the dictionary. Referring to someone as “mute” who chooses not to communicate through audible methods is simply correct use of the English language. Referring to someone as blind who can’t see is proper use of the English language. Referring to someone who can’t hear as deaf is proper use of the English language. What is not proper is to try to convince me that I’m somehow discriminatory for using the word as it is defined. No definition in any dictionary refers to “mute” as an insulting or derogatory term, so putting it in the same class as the N word or the F word is extremely unfair and absolutely inaccurate. ASL as beautiful and fascinating. It’s unfortunate that deaf people are not born with hearing or lose it at some point throughout their lives. But to be angered at hearing persons and cuss at them as you just did simply because a word exists that means “unable to or chooses not to speak” is discriminatory in itself. Sensitivity to slurs is one thing. Sensitivity to terminology that had already been eliminated once (“dumb”) because its meaning could be confused is just looking for a way to divide people further. I won’t reply again because it is apparent that some in the non-hearing community have a strong and insurmountable dislike for those who hear simply because they hear. It’s unfortunate that the meaning of this article was lost on some simply because they were offended by a word that doesn’t have an offensive meaning.

          • PJ London

            “apparent that some in the non-hearing community have a strong and insurmountable dislike for those who hear simply because they hear. ”
            Hoo boy, your whole BS argument just went up in flames.
            N***er never used to be offensive, Kaffir never used to be offensive, queer never used to be offensive. If you are so stupid, such a cretin, moronic beyond description, too dumb to wipe your own drool, as to not be able to see that, then you should not be allowed near a keyboard.
            You are an insult to the mentally challenged.
            You make bigots seem reasonable.
            For your information : Many deaf people do not like speaking, they cannot enunciate clearly and cannot judge the loudness of their communication. This comes across as aggressive and often people believe they are drunk or otherwise incapacitated.
            So &&&&&&&&&& (Sign language for F** O**)

          • Mark Derenberger

            Your combative language and insults simply support my observation that, beyond my comprehension, some have a severe dislike for anyone not like them. Language is language. Words are words. Whatever reason a person chooses not to speak is their reason, but the definition of that behavior IS “mute”. That IS the word for one who is unable or unwilling to speak verbally. Get mad all you want, but it’s mostly for naught. People who know the English language will still use the proper word for someone who is silent. That word is “mute”. It was once “dumb”, but once “dumb” was adopted to mean “stupid or ignorant”, that word was no longer used out of respect for those who are obviously intelligent but simply can’t or choose not to communicate vocally. “Mute” does not mean “stupid or ignorant”. “Mute” means “silent”. There’s even a button on our TV sets and stereos that says “mute” for exactly that reason. If someone does not speak that sounds, they are silent. Being silence is not offensive. The way you replied to me, however, is quite offensive. I have certainly said nothing negative about anyone who is deaf or anyone in the deaf Community. I have nothing negative to say about such people. They’re just people who can’t hear. Some of them also choose not to speak. “Mute” simply means they are silent. It seems some people want to argue just to argue. Your anger is misplaced on those who have nothing against you.

          • PJ London

            Your weaselly response is what I expected.
            You make an obnoxious and bigoted remark , you refuse to acknowledge that others find something offensive merely because the dictionary defines it differently. I was deliberately offensive and aggressive, to allow you to experience how others felt, when you ignore and belittle their feelings. They do not need to be in agreement with you, you do not need to even change your usage, but a reasonable person would recognise that the fact that others feel a certain response to a word is sufficient to accept that and to allow them to define what is preferable and meaningful to them.
            Your continuing defence of your position is a deliberate slap in the face to those who are hurt.
            You may not care. You may think it unreasonable. To further state that someone has an ‘insurmountable dislike for those who hear simply because they hear.’ is beyond any polite response.
            My anger is not in any way misplaced. It is against arrogant bigoted buffoons, such as you.

          • Mark Derenberger

            “Arrogant bigoted buffoons”. I’m not arrogant just because I don’t want to redefine a dictionary. Arrogant, some might say, is trying to redefine the dictionary or remove a word that has never been used as an insult. As a matter of fact, I challenge you to tell me an instance of where someone used the word mute as an insult. I have nothing against anyone. Just because I comprehend the English language does not mean that I’m either arrogant or bigoted. Just because you decide that a word is offensive for absolutely no reason whatsoever does not make it offensive. If someone calls me male, I can’t just be offended when I am an actual male. If someone calls me fair-skinned, I can’t be offended because I am fair skinned. If someone calls me short because I’m not tall, I can’t be offended because I’m not tall. How long will it be till people such as yourself who choose to be offended by simple accurate descriptive words that have been around since before any of us were born, will also decide that the word deaf is somehow offensive as well? Bald is lacking hair, blind is lacking vision, white is lacking color, deaf is lacking hearing, and mute is lacking voice. These are adjectives, not insults. My defiance is not against you, but against the idea that we should change words in our language that have no negative connotation just because some people don’t like them. I don’t like the word moist, but I’m not asking anyone to strike it from the dictionary. It will still mean something that is damp, whether I enjoy the use of the word or not.

            And if my clothes are wet, and somebody says that my shirt is moist, I may cringe at the word… But in fact, my shirt is still moist.

            Again, I challenge you to tell me of a situation where someone has used the word “mute” as an insult. Take this opportunity to convince me that somehow the Oxford Dictionary has got it all wrong.

          • PJ London

            American Sign Language: Negative Terminology and the Deaf:

            Plato Clifford
            3/28/2008

            Negative Terminology and the Deaf

            Hearing people have English terms that they use for Deaf people without really thinking about them. Although we may not mean to offend, certain of these terms do have insulting overtones that we may not be aware of. There are three specific phrases that I have in mind: “deaf and dumb,” “deaf mute,” and “hearing impaired”.

            In today’s vernacular, the most obviously offensive is “deaf and dumb.” When the phrase first began to be used, “dumb” was just another way of saying “unable to talk,” but as Jamie Berke writes, “It has come to be viewed as an insult because over the years, the ‘dumb’ part came to refer to the deaf person’s intelligence.” In fact, this one causes a lot of confusion in the Deaf community because not everyone knows about this more obscure usage of the word “dumb”. Behind this link is a comment by some poor anonymous person who pleads “I’m deaf but I sure am not dumb and I don’t really think any one is, we may not hear you or see you but we know all too well what’s going [on].” I think we should all let this term just fade into obscurity.

            The next phrase, “deaf mute,” might seem a bit more benign, but it is still inaccurate and offensive. The authors of For Hearing People Only (a wonderful question and answer book about Deaf Culture) write that at one time both of these terms “reflected a common misconception that deafness caused muteness. People believed that deaf people couldn’t speak, that they were incapable of speech.” This is simply not true. As Burke writes, “It has come to be viewed as an insult because many if not most deaf people CAN learn to talk.” The inability to hear does not render one unable to speak, and certainly not unable to communicate. My old professor Lyes Bousseloub was born deaf but he can still utter certain key words much better that I would have expected him to. As for communication, I’ve been to a few Deaf socials and those people are more chatty than most Hearing people I know. To tack on the word “mute” when describing them is just a waste of breath.

            You may not care about offending people but that does not make it inoffensive,
            “The next phrase, “deaf mute,” might seem a bit more benign, but it is still inaccurate and offensive.”

            “Lest you go around spouting that phrase, she cautions: “…BUT only us can use that for ourselves. No no to the general public or media or professionals who continue not to understand us or look down on us…you do not yet know how to use ‘Deaf mute’ properly.”

            I think about it kind of like the “N” word. It’s okay for black people to say that about themselves, but if I go around saying it I’m likely to get slapped or worse. You may argue that it doesn’t compare because of the horrible marginalized past that the African Americans had to suffer, but Deaf people do have a culture too that is distinct from the Hearing and has been overlooked for too long. They’ve had to endure prejudices and unfair treatment.”

            You may have an opinion but :
            “Opinions are like orgasms… mine matters most and I really don’t care if you have one.”
            — Sylvia Plath

          • michael

            hey …peddle your smartass bullcrap somewhere else………THE DEAF COMMUNITY DOESNT LIKE BEING CALLED MUTE……..it is not hard to understand and people have been trying to tell you nicely …………WE DONT NEED A FREAKIN ENGLISH LESSON…….there is none so stupid as those who will not listen…….SMDH………

          • Mark Derenberger

            You say you don’t need an English lesson, yet some people are still up in arms about accurate terminology for describing someone who can’t hear and does not speak verbally. So now instead of addressing the issue of poorly trained officers, or officers who poorly execute their training, we’re debating the fact that some people don’t like a word. I will refer to anybody in the way that they would prefer to be referred to. I didn’t even directly call ANYONE mute at any point. However, the person who wrote this article did it with the intent of bringing to light a serious issue in law enforcement as well as how nonverbal deaf people may be misunderstood, and I felt someone should stand up for the person that stood up for the deaf community in reporting this. I know very well the difference between somebody being deaf and somebody being deaf mute. It seems that the writer of this article did as well. So instead of getting so irate over a word that only some people dislike while others of the same community have absolutely no problem with, why not focus on why this police officer was trained so poorly, or acted so irrationally? It’s sad that an article meant to bring attention to such a problem has been lost in a discussion over a word that while possibly perceived incorrectly by some, is understood by most to mean simply what the definition is. This truly is my last comment on the matter. I’ve meant no disrespect to anyone, it’s pretty apparent the article writer did not mean disrespect to anyone, and those who understand the difference between deaf and deaf mute also do not mean disrespect to anyone. I do find it interesting that reading all the comments, I’ve been called all sorts of names and curse words, while I’ve never done the same to anyone else who insulted me. That is a show of respect. Keep that in mind.

          • theoneandonlyridor

            I don’t care if you felt it is illogical. Learn our Deaf Culture, our language and our way of life, you’ll know that “mute” applies to the people who cannot voice, we have thousands of Deaf people who can sign and speak. OH, by the way, Monks chose to be one. We did not choose to be “mute” – you STAMPED on us. And we don’t like it!

    • Ken Warren

      But some people are mute. And it is entirely possible that the individual in this article was one of said people. You do not know either way, making the entire foundation of your opinion lacking in any factual validity.

      And the old saying regarding “deaf and dumb” came from the fact that “dumb” means “mute,” not “stupid,” in that context. And incidentally, there are people who are deaf but not dumb/mute. There are also people who are dumb/mute but not deaf.

      There are also people who are both.

      • Spiraling systems

        For journalist integrity, for that to be justification for it to be in the title, it should be verified by the author, not assumed because he is Deaf. To do otherwise is faulty, as are your presumptions and implications that follow.

        • Darryn Frost

          You have no idea if it was verified or not.

    • billdeserthills

      Yeah, so just go ahead and shoot all the deaf people–Then they’ll see just how much the police care

      • Emma

        What the devil is wrong with you!?
        Are you really that ignorant?
        People like you are why I am always armed.
        Never know what stupid will do, so I stay vigilent

        • billdeserthills

          It was sarcasm kooky nutz, but bring it on, I got my gun too

          • Emma

            O thank God!
            I always enjoy reading you.
            Thought you had lost your blessed mind!!!?
            Thanks for letting me know ya aren’t round the bend.
            ?Have a nice evening.

          • billdeserthills

            Oh Emma, I didn’t know I had fans

            I remember that Round the Bend book, by Nevil Shute

          • Emma

            ?lol

          • Emma

            Yep. Just li’l ol’ me. Lol

    • Emma

      One of my grandsons is deaf, &yes, he is mute. He is incapable of making sounds. As in speech,
      He was born this way. Smart as a whip, & sometimes I think he is the lucky ne in the family because he doesn’t have to hear this garbage.
      He is 14 an honor student, has good friends family & church family.
      I do understand.
      I assure you tho, Joel communicates uite well & is well adjusted, active & just an average all around good kid.
      He simply does not hear or speak. But he has no problem communicating or understanding.

      • ReBelle

        Church does not make a person good. In fact today’s “christians” are some of the most evil. They use God’s name to commit atrocities upon others, I know Atheist that are more tolerant, kind, gentle, loving and forgiving than MOST of the self proclaimed christians I know.

        • Emma

          Well, we don’t.
          I do not attend mans’ church.
          I am in my Fathers’ Cathedral each time I walk out my door. ?

      • theoneandonlyridor

        NO, there is famous poem, you have to be deaf to understand. Since you are not Deaf, you cannot speak for us. Even if your so-called grandson is Deaf, you can’t speak for him because you are not Deaf to begin with.

        • Emma

          He is my grandson.
          All I can tell you is he is a very normal 14 yr old kid.
          He has always been treated same as the other kids.
          Are you deaf?
          A person plays the cards they are dealt in this life.
          He is not handicapped because he does not see it that way.
          So, what it is…YOU can’t speak for Joel.
          He speaks for himself in everything he does, the way he is.
          He is an awesome young man.

          • theoneandonlyridor

            I don’t care about Joel as your so-called grandson. I am Deaf. I am Deaf from Deaf family of six generations dating back to 1833. If you know who I am, I am pretty well known Deaf person in my community. I am also fluent in ASL. I don’t see myself as handicapped as well. You thought it is OK to call your grandson “deaf and mute” – if your grandson knew of what you said, he’ll tell you that it is offensive. Deaf & mute has been longtime associated with deaf and dumb. If you know enough about Deaf Culture, you would have know all about it. You obviously do not. Take a f***ing class on Deaf Culture, old woman.

          • Emma

            How about you stop being a rude little “poor li’l me” &
            stop with the bitch party.?
            I could care no less what.you think because you have chosen to let your deafness, if you really are deaf, define you.
            My granson does not.
            There is the difference.,

          • theoneandonlyridor

            Your so-called grandson is only 14. Just wait until he’s in 20s, you’ll notice one thing, if you and his parents do not communicate with him very well with ASL, you can bet that when your so-called grandson becomes adult and independent, he will phase/restrict you folks out of his life. I have seen many, many Deaf people do that to their hearing parents and relatives. Enjpy what you have on your table because it is only but a short time.

          • Emma

            You are a truly sorry human being.
            Such potential you have to be a light but your anger & bitterness blinds you.
            I am sorry for you.
            Not because you are deaf
            because you are blind.

          • Emma

            That may be the way your family works, mine does not.

          • theoneandonlyridor

            You’re dumb. My Deaf family – all of us are Deaf, and we are all tight. I’m talking about Deaf people with hearing families. Yours will shut you out when he’s 21. Just wait and you’ll see. I felt sorry for you.

          • Emma

            I showed your comments & mine to Joel.
            To make it short…
            He didn’t agree with you.
            That is the polite version

          • Emma

            One more thing…
            If your parents were aware this issue was.hereditary to that extent, why risk passing it on?
            I would not have had children if I felt it was an issue.
            Do you have children or are you even old enough to have childre
            Will you risk passing deafness to yours, since you find it to be so devastating?
            Just curious.

          • theoneandonlyridor

            What my parents wanted is none of your business. We are very proud Deaf family. We do not see any problem with ourselves, we do see the problems with YOU HEARIE people. We embrace Deafness as positive thing in life, you try to borgize Deaf children because you believe that hearing is important. To us, it does not matter. When my parents gave birth to a hearing child, they’re blessed. When my parents gave birth to a deaf child, they are blessed! Get over with it, old woman. And I don’t have a child nor wanted one. I don’t want to have a child of my own because I embrace GINK. If you don’t know what GINK means, it is not my problem.

          • Emma

            Your attitude in your posts give lie to your words.
            I don’t have the time for.butt hurt
            angry, bitter cry babies.
            Please don’t post to me again. Ty

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            Find a Cliff
            Then Use It !

        • J-dawg

          Is there something wrong with you? Being deaf doesn’t give you the right to tell other deaf people and their families how to refer to themselves and each other. You seem like a very angry and unpleasant person, or a troll, or someone impersonating a Deaf Donald Trump.

    • ReBelle

      I think most humans with a discernible IQ would recognize sign language… Whether they understand it or not.

    • michael

      thank you……people have no ideal what goes on in the deaf community……I have several deaf people in my family……….use to be the cops were not trained to deal with them…….I had hoped and worked for that to change.bit I guess there is still work to be done…………ALSO……I dont know what went on there …I was not there….but unless you have put on a badge and have faced this type of call and have risked your life then STFU………….this cop bashing is just stupid……..and yes I was a cop………..

  • Einelorelei

    If you’re not white, male and able bodied, you are persona non grata in this country by law enforcement.

    • billdeserthills

      Unless you are law enforcement!

    • William Beals

      That is not true. If you are a moron…you get what you deserve. That is that.

      • Justsomeguy151

        STFU, pig bootlicker.

        • firsthand white

          Bat shit crazy much??? Just asking!!

          • Justsomeguy151

            Bigoted fagot much? It’s obvious.

      • ReBelle

        So because he is a deaf mute, he is a moron? Well that would make you a willfully ignorant moron then, wouldn’t it?!

      • JOHN MONDS

        How is it that you haven’t been shot? You certainly qualify as a moron!

        • firsthand white

          Rotflmfao! But it’s so sad ,so young! Let’s stay on the story! Couldn’t help myself…sorry!

      • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

        Looking at your Avatar allows me to see that you too must deserve death. MORON.

      • sanduchi

        You poor excuse for a human being. Moron is way too good of a word for you. Low life is much more appropriate. You should have been a miscarriage.

      • Deenohh

        How are you still alive? But like you say morons get what they deserve. I have no doubt with a bit of good luck you will be dead soon..and good riddance to shitkickers like youa. .

  • Phillip Marsh

    The fucking pig will get off with at most a slap on the wrist and be glorified while the VICTIM who was MURDERED will be vilified.

    • billdeserthills

      And let’s not forget the paid vacation he is already enjoying

      Nothing to see here folks, just America’s biggest criminal gang roughing up the public!

    • William Beals

      As the idiot should be shamed. Refusing to pull the hell over, ramming a police car and a police chase all the way to his home instead of just pulling the hell over to see what the hell he did wrong. Of course he should be shamed. There is no excuse for stupidity.

      • Justsomeguy151

        Just wondering, how many pig cocks have you sucked? Do you do it because you’re a fucking dumbfuck? Or just a pig cock junkie?

        • n10dkf

          LOL

      • Joshua R. Kern

        I would assume he was terrified the asshole would kill for not being about to hear his psychotic shouting and demands. The damage us likely fromthe piece of shit cop ramming him. There is no excuse for your callow defense of the state you magnificent dickhead.

      • ReBelle

        Exactly where does it say he rammed a police car? Since the cops were chasing him, I would think they rammed him you idiot!

      • Objectless

        I’m saddened by the fact that you allowed to vote and reproduce… You and your offspring are a detriment to mankind.

      • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

        So why are yo so stupid, if there is no excuse?

      • Phillip Marsh

        Perhaps he was terrified there would be a testosterone Adrenalin junkie cop with the IQ of a dead flashlight battery who could no more recognize sign language than properly tie his shoes that would rather MURDER a deaf person within 10 seconds of getting out of his car.

      • saucetin

        Least of all, yours. That pink foreskin candidate you’re shilling for…way to be a roadie, troll.

      • AHodges

        Even if the things you’re saying are true, none of that warrants being shot in cold blood. Any decently trained police officer should be able to handle a situation like that without resorting to lethal violence.

    • ReBelle

      Do not insult pigs. They are generally very nice animals!

  • Chris Sky

    “I feared for my life” – cop won’t be charged.

    but thankfully it’s just a “white guy” hence we dont’ have to worry about riots, looting, fires, people being attacked, or cops being murdered.

    • Lilly Marable

      Then why are most cops murdered by WHITE MALES??

      • Deenohh

        Because they are not? The “facts” being bandies about are so wrong as to be made up out of whole cloth. the last 10 years an average of 350 police officers were shot in the USA the shooters are about 50/50 white and minorites. Instead of spouting ropaganda do some research

      • Chris Sky

        I would love to see the actual stats for that… because I have ACTUAL FBI CRIME STATS

        and even though black people represent 15% of the population vs White people who represent 70% of the population (500% or 5 times more) and even though they put “MEXICAN murders” with whites to make the numbers look better for the blacks… the RESULTS?

        Total Murder (2012) 8383

        Whites (70% pop) 3799 45% TOTAL murders
        Blacks (15% pop) 4379 52% TOTAL murders

        the other 3% were committed by asian/native/pacific islander.

        so… you have blacks out numbered by whites 5 to 1… yet blacks still killing more people.

        so your assertion that “white people kill more cops than black people” may or may not be true… but if there were 30 cops killed by blacks and 50 cops killed by 5 TIMES AS MANY WHITES… it kinda would make sense that whites should have killed more cops than blacks.

        in reality.. blacks still make up a small minority of the population, yet the MAJORITY of murders (as well as armed robberies.)

        Robbery TOTAL 78,538

        whites 32,945
        blacks 44,271

        so once again even though outnumbered 5 to 1 blacks still commit more robbery… proving that blacks more than 5 times more likely to murder or rob you than a white person 😉

        #truth

        sorry it hurts.

        • Lilly Marable

          So do i, look up Stat showing cops killed by race also there are a ton of reports showing the same info, all you have to do is look it up, just as you do for the I’ll informed Stat on blacka by population

          • Chris Sky

            funny because I used official FBI crime stats for my numbers… and cited my source… and you simply say “the info is out there” no source, no numbers, no FACTS. In other words what you’re saying is… this is your opinion. and as for my FACTS they are damaging to your argument, so they should be considered “irrelevant” 😀 gotcha

            now once again. either provide those stats, and cite your reliable source to prove your point, or concede and have a nice day.

          • Chris Sky

            funny you say “The stats are out there” but can’t cite your source… once again I’ll use FBI CRIME Stats… this time from 2013.

            How many cops were “Feloniously klled”
            27. 25 WHITE 2 Black.

            WHO killed these cops?
            15 WHITE Killers
            11 Black Killers.

            yet whites outnumber blacks 5 to 1… so adjusting for population it would be 55 murders of cops by black people if there were as many black people as white people and over 90% of all cops killed were WHITE as well.

            and as usual.. i can CITE MY SOURCE and not tell you “The info is out there, trust me!”

            https://ucr.fbi.gov/leoka/2013/officers-feloniously-killed/felonious_topic_page_-2013

  • Kevin M Benderman

    Maybe I am just an ignorant fool, but if you are deaf, why are your driving in the first place? Horns blowing, lights and sirens, are all indicators of some sort of problem. The man should not have been shot, I repeat, he should not have been shot, but is driving while deaf really a good idea?

    • nomardw

      You do understand that deaf just means they can’t hear, right? It doesn’t mean they can’t see the lights that accompany those sirens. They can see the red lights and the blinking lights. This show’s a deep lack of understanding of the condition.

      • cowcharge

        Although in this case, since the guy didn’t stop, he clearly didn’t see the lights either.

  • Clay Davis

    start shooting back.

    • Clive

      Grab your weapon and get on out there, tiger.

  • Lostchild65

    The police are not your friend. Period.

    • Emma

      Really?
      They are when you need them.
      When you have to call them, they come.

      • Lostchild65

        And shoot your dog more likely than not.

      • Justsomeguy151

        Really? You’re really retarded.

        • ReBelle

          Oh no Emma, that would be you. Willful ignorance makes you the worst kind of stupid!

      • ReBelle

        That’s because we pay them, not because they are our friends you dolt! Doing their job is a job requirement idiot!

        • Emma

          Pull your pants up & sit down. Still hear you talking.

      • theoneandonlyridor

        No, I encouraged my friends never to call cops even if it is in case of emergency.

        • cosmopolite

          What you say here has been common in AA families since the Civil War.

          • theoneandonlyridor

            Umm. Let me give my answer …. do I care? No. I care about protecting Deaf people from the brutality of Police Officers. Do your homework if you know how to do so.

          • April Lowery

            Are you saying the only reason you care about this is because the victim was deaf? I agree this is a tragedy and there is no valid reason this man should be dead. I think by ignoring the fact that African Americans are also killed by the police without reason, you are ignoring one of the reasons this man was killed. The police need better training and need to taught not to fear the citizens they work for and who pay their salary.

          • Fay Brewer

            I totally agree with you that they need more training. However, I don’t think he’s saying he JUST cares about deaf victims.

          • theoneandonlyridor

            April, you have your own community to rally around. When you have a rally, you have plenty of supporters to come together. Deaf people are not big. We may be lucky to get 25 people together to rally. They needed me more than your community needs us. And no, training is not going to work very well. Workshops ain’t gonna work well. Hire Deaf people to work for Police Departments (Not as a cop but in some capacity) is the only way to go. This way, they will see Deaf people as humans. the systematic of oppression and discrimination within the Police Department needs to be dismantled.

          • Monty Mondegreen

            Name one recent case in which an African American was killed by a cop “without reason,” i.e., a case that was not justifiable self-defense.

          • theoneandonlyridor

            Better training? Been there, done that and did not work. Time for Police & Sheriff Departments to hire Deaf people in some capacity (Does not have to be a cop, they can work in data entry, investigator, clerk et al) so that cops can mingle with Deaf people on daily basis and get used to it.

          • cosmopolite

            You seem to think that we disagree when we do not.

          • Mocksoup

            And thanks to the advent of little brother (cellphone cameras) we are finally able to see that. And it was wrong that we didn’t know before.

        • bahona

          I wish there were a way to call for an ambulance or a fire truck without also calling the cops. This is why I chose to drive myself (in a manual transmission vehicle) 50 miles to the hospital when I was in labor. I was afraid the police would show up & arrest me!

          • theoneandonlyridor

            There is a way. You can call 911 and notify the dispatcher that you only wanted ambulance or fire truck and you can explicitly tell them there is no need for a cop to come down.

        • Bill the Cat

          Thanks! That means they’ll be more police available to respond to other calls!

      • kevinl4000

        … about 8 minutes too late to be of any help

      • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

        AFTER you’ve been raped they will come. AFTER you’ve been burglarized, they will come. After you’ve been robbed they will come. AFTER you’ve been murdered they will come…yes, they always come AFTER you need them. My motto…I don’t dial 911. I own a shovel.

        • Emma

          Well, me too, & lots of other “toys” too.
          Point is, all cops are not dirty.
          They just get the press.
          Do you notice that most of the dirty ones are younger?
          I have.

          • moecat

            They were taught by older cops who had no body cameras when they were young! You only need to watch the movie (Serpico) based on real events in NYC to know why good cops don’t turn in the bad ones. The whole system needs to be overhauled! FYI, I’m the daughter of a cop. One of the good ones!

          • hemocyanin

            It is impossible to call a cop “good” if he or she won’t turn in the bad ones. That just makes the “good” cop an accomplice and like criminals share liability, so too should our perception of cops.

          • anna miller

            check out the youtube channel, “Downtown White Cop”. Your dad will most likely resonate. Former cops giving the lowdown on the corrupt system. peace.

          • Montely Wilson

            That’s asking too much of them?

          • Bill the Cat

            Right. Right… like in the movies! LOL

          • Emma

            See?
            There are good ones!!?
            I have run across both kinds.

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            Emma
            Being family we know !
            You know from personal
            day to day experience .
            (Just regular folk like everyone
            else.

          • Emma

            Yes. So many don’t get it.
            Cannot separate the Man from the Uniform & everything that goes with it, good, bad or in between.
            Police Officers have been dehumanized by citizens.
            They have become a part of the “machine” that is now patrolling.
            Everyone is so afraid of each other.
            You know, this criminal regime has created this chasm, & all respect & civility have disappeared.
            There are bad cops. They need prosecuted if they are.
            But… Not All are bad.
            Really bothers me.

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            Dehumanized by the Federal Government.
            The Government wants to Federalize US Law Enforcement
            and the combine them UN Forces to patrol our streets
            It is a NWO Plot to Conquer the United States
            (US Attorney Loretta Lynch has said the US Government
            (Lynch and Obummer ) needed with UN Forces help to step in and
            stop all this abuse against Black Lives Matter (Communist)

          • Emma

            Yes. Agreed.
            We can NOT let that stand!

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            Will NOT !

          • Emma

            Agree. Will Not.

          • Jumpin’ Jack Flash

            The Best Thing Yet.
            Body and Dash Cams !
            Not wearing a functioning Body Cam,
            (No Case)
            A Body Cam, is an Unbiased Witness for the Truth !
            (Retired LEO)

          • Clive

            No, the stupid ones are younger. The dirty ones are mostly veterans.

          • Emma

            Some are. True.
            Not all.
            Didn’t use to be anyway.

          • hemocyanin

            Any “clean” cop who remains silent about a “dirty” cop, is just as dirty.

          • Reg Dunlop

            When are you joining the police force ????

          • John Chabak

            When are you going to stop licking the shit off your buddy cop’s boots?

          • Reg Dunlop

            When are going to report your Dad for touching your ball bag ?

          • hemocyanin

            Of course. Anyone who starts dirty ends dirty.

          • Reg Dunlop

            Pussy

          • Reg Dunlop

            Pussy

          • hemocyanin

            I win.

          • Real Dude82

            Join the force? I’m not looking to gun down any defenseless citizens

          • Marcus

            The older cops are the ones who either turn a blind eye to abuse, or help further institutionalize the police culture that enables abuse. To this day, we’ll have police commissioners say they’ve never seen overpolicing in 30 years, or police commissioners “mourn” for black and brown victims of mass shootings but condone their own departments to those same people doing it anyway.

            We can talk night and day about “good” cops, but they’re not reporting the bad cops, either because they’re outnumbered (see Fraternity of Police), bullied into submission, get reported for whistleblowing, or just outright agree with the “bad” cops actions to the point of defense.

            This is why it’s pointless to talk about good/bad cops. You need huge systemic change top-down, bottom-up to begin to hold them accountable. Or maybe even abolish them and replace such an irreparably corrupt system with a system that’s much more based on justice than bullying.

          • eleanorrubymoon

            Marcus: Absolutely agree and fully support your thinking and only wish what you said could be shouted from the rooftops. I won’t repeat any of it here but would certainly like to repost elsewhere if I may?

          • Reg Dunlop

            When are you joining the police force ??????

          • AppalachianMatt

            What about the communities they serve? Do they share no responsibility in this ordeal? Both sides are at fault for how things are panning out not just one. No one is even mentioning the people who write the laws cops are paid to enforce. Cops are the easiest target b/c they are the low hanging fruit.

          • chris

            If the good cops don’t turn in bad cops, then they too are bad cops. That pretty much makes all of them bad cops.

          • Emma

            Who says they don’t?
            They sure do where I live.

          • AppalachianMatt

            People act like every precinct has 1-2 really bad cops that everyone covers for. This is reality not the movies. Not all Cops are bad and every Cop I know would turn a bad one in a second. Instead of blaming cops for everything lets start to take a look at the communities they serve. Yes we have SOME Cops who aren’t great but have you ever responded to a 911 call where someone has beaten the crap out of a loved one? Or stopped someone for speeding only to be cussed out b/c the driver was wrong? Don’t act like you know unless you’ve been there. Blaming one side is the easiest way to not have the actual conversation.

          • jon

            “Not all cops are dirty”

            Just 99.999%. What do you think would happen to the average cops salary if the last traffic violation that happened is the last one that ever happens? What do you think would happen to their salary if the last murder that happened is the last one that ever happens? What do you think would happen to their salary if the last crime that happened is the last crime that ever happens? Cops are the enemy. Cops are dangerous. Cops are criminals. They want crime rates to increase, not decrease.

          • michael

            and you are full of crap

          • jon

            Please correct me if I’m wrong. Nothing would make me happier than being given a convincing reason for believing that morally corrupt cops are a minority.

            So being told that rape was willful participation in my own torture and that having a panic attack in public warrants a disturbing the peace charge was just a misunderstanding?

          • Emma

            All cops are not dirty.
            I have run across both kinds.
            Obviously you have not.

          • jon

            Please correct me if I’m wrong. Nothing would make me happier than being given a convincing reason to believe that morally corrupt cops are a minority.

            Is 99.999% not less than all? I don’t believe all cops are morally corrupt. I don’t believe 100% is truly capable of existing.

        • Pop_Korn

          Some one has to write the report so it can be filed away.

        • dufas_duck

          Plus, as quite a few articles about police have shown,…… many times, the police end up arresting or victimizing the person that called 911…..

        • Evan

          Sadly the truth, and they resist the use of body cams, turn them off or tell other cops in pursuit to turn off their body cams. Are they afraid the body cams won’t support the truth? oh, wait that’s my problem, it’s not as easy to lie about what happened, if there’s visual evidence.

        • Joe Soap

          What would you have them do? Follow you around? They’re not personal bodyguards. They come AFTER a crime has been committed. Unless you want to live in a police state with millions of police officers watching everything you do. You get less crime but a lot less freedom. I’ll let you choose.

          PS You a Trump supporter by any chance?

        • Bill the Cat

          The police aren’t there to protect anyone. They’re there to clean up the mess and maybe see to it that the guilty are punished.

        • No shit they’re there AFTER. Are you suddenly psychic and can tell when you’ll need them BEFORE you need them? Cuz if you were you wouldn’t need them anyway.

        • AppalachianMatt

          We don’t have minority report technology so of course they come after something happens. They are a reactionary force not mind readers who can see into the future.

        • J-dawg

          Don’t forget, AFTER they’ve come because the neighbor who keeps violating protective orders to keep away from your family has threatened you with a gun while out on bail for RUNNING OVER YOUR MOTHER, they’ll leave, so they can come back AFTER he murders you.

      • Clive

        Speaking personally, I only call the cops when I have a legal responsibility to do so. Otherwise, I own firearms that I’m proficient with. Not everyone shivers in the closet with their phone, hoping the police get there in time.

        • bahona

          about all hey are good for is writing up an accident report,so you can turn it in to insurance….and maybe directing traffic while you’re waiting for a tow truck.

        • Emma

          You are soooo right.
          Thank you.
          That is as it should be.
          We are our own best defense.

      • lorennwitherspoon

        I disagree. When the young man in Tulsa called the police the week before last reporting a man with a gun banging on his windows who was also violating 2 restraining orders, the police didn’t show up for 90 minutes. They didn’t find anything. 10 minutes after they left, the man with the gun killed the young man.

        • Emma

          The young man should have had a weapon.
          When & where did this happen.?

      • Mocksoup

        It’s getting to the point where we don’t call the cops. We just deal with it on our own. I don’t want kids to be shot because their music is up too late and my kids are sleeping. I don’t want a guy to be shot because he dinged my car by accident.

      • Mark Gruber

        Calling the police is a gamble no matter what .they have killed the people that they were supposed to protect ,time and time again. Most if not all of these younger officers are out there trying to prove they are super cop, and don’t think twice about killing someone In Cold Blood, in their mind we are the criminals. And they are the heroes.

        • Emma

          Sadly, it is the younger ones who kill more often than not.
          That tells me they are not evaluated properly, psychologicaly, nor proper training.
          We are fortunate to be in the county. Our Sheriff doesn’t tolerate bad officers,
          Three have been arrested & jailed. We are fortunate here.
          I do see your point.

      • Ripley Ramboette

        and you’re lucky if they don’t mistake you as the problem.I’m not loving the 50/50 odds

      • crazygemini12

        And 2 seconds after they show up, they kill you, as was the case for Tamir Rice and John Crawford. It’s always better not to call them.

      • o0Seraphim0o

        unless you live in Victorville, CA. i used to live 10 minutes from the nearest police station. it took them two hours to show up after the school next door and one of the neighbor’s houses was broken into. i had defended my property using realistic-looking squirt guns before they were banned (an M16 and an Uzi), because i knew the cops wouldn’t be there in time, and husband’s and my last line of defense were to look like we meant business in the poor lighting.

        and while victorville didn’t have it when i lived there, there’s a lot of cities that have laws telling landlords to evict their tenants if they call 911… so you have a choice, get murdered or become homeless.

        • michael

          they dont sit at the station waiting for you to call…..you can live next door to the station and they could be on other calls when yours come in………..it is not all about you………….SMDH

        • Emma

          I would not live in such a place.
          No one , & I do mean NO ONE, has the right to take away your right to self defense.
          When a law is against natural law &/or Constitutional law, it is not to be considered, but null & void.
          Even wild creatures have & practice that same right.
          No, the cops can’t always be there. Usually are called after a crime has occurred.
          Our last& best line of defense is ourselves.
          Took courage to do what you did. Wish everyone had your courage.?

      • Real Dude82

        Actually you stupid b!tch that’s not even entirely accurate. I had a personal incident which required police assistance and they took an HOUR AND A HALF to come. It was a serious situation, but if it had been any more serious, they would not have been there in time.

        • Emma

          REAL DUDES are REAL MEN
          & do Not talk to Ladies as you just did.
          A shame they came at all if it involved only you & not innocent others.

      • n10dkf

        @Enema: Warren v District of Columbia the stinking pigs are under no obligation to help you. Their job is to protect and serve the fascist government and to generate revenue.

        • Emma

          Seems to me when a cop messes up they COST more than we collect.
          You are a rude ignorant DD.
          ?Sorry about your luck.

      • beetsville

        FACT: They are minutes away when seconds count.

    • Reg Dunlop

      When are joining the Police Force ???

      • Mr Marco

        Why do you keep asking people that? Why would anyone want to join a gang?

        • Reg Dunlop

          Gang ? You dumb illegal

          • Mr Marco

            All PD’s are are legal government gangs. I am not an illegal but I am aware of whats going on in the world. Because, you know, I’m intelligent and I read things. Judging by your response, which is just calling me names like a 5 year old does, I can conclude that you are not an intelligent person. So, I am not going to tell you to stop b/c when you tell a 5 year old to stop doing things they proceed to do them. So I challenge you to do more research on both sides before you open your mouth. Thank you.

    • Bill the Cat

      Maybe you should learn to close your piehole and do what the nice policeman asks you to do?

      That makes it a lot less likely that you’ll be shot than screaming and waving your hands around.

  • Adam Hayes

    Sign Language is NOT a weapon! Sign language is for a used with the “Communicate”

  • Spiraling systems

    Unless the individual in question was in fact mute (a medical condition which renders the experiencer unable to make sound from their vocal cords), mute should be removed from the title. Some Deaf people use their voices, others do not, but most Deaf people have voice production capabilities. The title should be changed (Given a connection to someone who knows this man, I am fairly sure – not 100%- that he is not actually mute.)

    Otherwise solid article.

  • IDRACULA

    Why are cops so frightened of people …? Shoot first ask questions later!

    The shooter … Trooper Jermaine Saunders in this case is a woman???

    • Prince

      They’re all a bunch of fraidy cat scared P*ssies!!!!!

    • ReBelle

      Dead men don’t get to tell their side of the story. Their only right is to remain silent!

  • william l. morris

    Another reason I left N.C. for good. L.E. there will kill you for no reason at all.

  • Prince

    DLM: Deaf Lives Matter

  • Don Unruh

    Fucking cops.

  • Raquel Negron

    Enough with this write ,complain to the proper authorities in charge you vote them in you can vote them out .Write ,complain ,investigate ,all protocols enough os their internal investigations they never find anything wrong .Go directly to the people in charge make your voice be heard, walking protesting does nothing as we have seen ,Go hogher upper in the chain of command .Inundate them with mail ,Write petitions and dont stop there because this cops are just the menial problem theain problem co MN es from higher upper that is whe re e all starts and needs to end ,Pull the plug where its starts .

  • igotplans2

    It occurred to me that the victim may have driven home rather than stopping because he assumed it would be safer, since a speaking family member at home could translate for him.

    • sunshyne84

      Any reasonable person could see that. Unfortunately, they don’t have badges.

      • Reg Dunlop

        When are you joining the Police Force ?

        • gobears1987

          Hey Reg, that reminds me. I was coachin’ in Omaha in 1948. and Eddie Shore sends me this guy that’s a terrible masturbator.

          • vtaltos

            Why he would get deliberate penalties and damned if he wouldn’t – hmf hmf hmf.

          • barloot

            Their to dumb to play with themselves! They brought they’re fuckin toy’s fer fuck sake!

        • J-dawg

          Why do you keep asking that? We don’t have to be police officers to hold law enforcement to acceptable standards of behavior. Usually when a profession is regulated entirely by itself it’s seen as a “fox guarding the henhouse” type situation. Police officers accept a certain amount of risk when they choose their profession, as do many others in other careers. They are compensated. They make the choice. This does not (SHOULD not) give them carte blanche to lash out at any and all perceived threats regardless of the reasonableness of that perception or the availability alternative courses of action.

          • Reg Dunlop

            Nice diatribe you liberal homo

        • Agent Michael Scarn

          When are you doing anything productive with your life? Time’s running out.

        • Real Dude82

          Drop dead you fu king scum bag

          • Reg Dunlop

            Join the force you pussy libtwat

        • Kyle Michel Sullivan

          When are YOU joining?

          • Reg Dunlop

            Right after you do tuffy

        • Byron Lord

          When they are trained to use common sense

          • Reg Dunlop

            Coward

        • No one should have to join the police for them to do their jobs without killing deaf people. Common sense isn’t taught in America, apparently.

          • Reg Dunlop

            So you are not joining ?

        • C Hicks

          There are women who have joined the police force. How come we don’t hear about women of any race randomly killing unarmed individuals on a weekly basis?

          • Joslyn Thomas

            Because over 90% of murders are committed by men.

          • Joslyn Thomas
          • Reg Dunlop

            You should really join I bet you are really brave

          • C Hicks

            I know officers, retired and active. They know what the police force entails, organization “politics” and all. From that, I can definitely say not for me. Plus, I’ve been fortunate enough to have gained a skillset where my job opportunities aren’t limited.
            I absolutely admire the bravery of the honest, hardworking officers on the force and the service they provide… know it’s not easy; However, I would have the women train the officers as it seems they know how to handle confrontation with less ego and force… extremely courageous.

      • Bill the Cat

        Seriously?

        You have no idea of what actually happened: you read part of an article written by a guy who wasn’t there either.

        Milwaukee is burning because a black criminal was shot and killed by a *black* policeman… but, somehow that’s “whitey’s fault.” Wonderful.

        Do police always make good decisions? Obviously not.

        But I’d certainly trust a review board LONG before I’d trust someone flapping their gums and not knowing fact one…. like you are.

        • Fay Brewer

          Said the user who chose to call himself Bill T.Cat and decided to make the argument personal.

          • Bill the Cat

            FO, Fay.

            P.S. I’m white, too.

          • Fay Brewer

            My apologies. I thought you were orange, as your avatar picture clearly shows an orange cat.

          • Byron Lord

            He is Orange….just like his beloved Trump

          • Robadude32

            So says the orange a-hole Byron “I’m the idiot” Lord.

          • Kian O’Floinn

            Your mom’s likes Trumps oranges

          • Agent Michael Scarn

            No one cares about you. Not even those who know you.

          • Bill the Cat

            But, mikie, if you don’t “care,” why are you replying? LOL

          • Real Dude82

            It is obvious you are white, and mildy retarded as well.

          • PoliticallyAcceptableTarget

            “Mildy retarded”. How’s that for irony?

          • Bill the Cat

            🙂

            The odds are *quite* good that I could subtract 40 points from my IQ and I’d still outscore you.

            You’re obviously suffering from Dunning-Kruger Syndrome LOL

          • 1ArmyVet

            What’s your malfunction, Bill the cat?

          • Bill the Cat

            Was I talking to you?

          • BarleySinger

            Nope. Just talking to yourself. To do anything else you would have to be able to understand other people and their experiences. That comes form empathy, which is the result of a healthy and mature “Theory of Mind”… the thing that tells you that the entire universe is “not all about you”.

          • Bill the Cat

            LMAO ;>)

            Even though I wasn’t talking to you, either, here’s the deal, lackwit:

            “Empathy” is the excuse fielded by idiots when they discover that raising minimum wage to $15/hour actually reduces wages and take-home pay. Damaging the people they purported to want to “help.”

            “Empathy” is what degenerates yap about when they want to normalize deviant behavior.

            “Empathy” is what idiots like you yap about when faced with the harsh truth that your long-help beliefs are demonstrably wrong, and the cognitive dissonance resulting from that causes enough pain that you just tell yourself that you’re “special” because you “care.”

            Yeah, sure. You “care.” LOL

            Your “care” never helped anyone. If you want to do something constructive, then go start a business and employ someone.

            And you’ve go the gall to lecture anyone about Metaphysical Solipsism? LMAO

            Dunning-Krueger — look it up and you’ll understand your problem.

            Followups from delusional pi44ant ignored.

          • C Hicks

            Funny how bill the pu–y knows so much about the syndrome since he probably looked it up for self-analysis.

          • John Baker

            More likely you could double it and still put it on a football jersey.

          • Joslyn Thomas

            Oh come on. Stop calling Bill the Cat names like “retard” and “pussy.” You’re taking away from your own message and you’re being hateful and oppressive to women and the disabled in the process. You’re proving yourselves to be just as ignorant as the person you’re arguing with.

          • lonew0lf

            How is calling someone a “pussy”, being “hateful or oppressive towards woman”. By that logic whenever you call someone a “dick” you are being hateful and oppressive towards men.

            I’ll meet you halfway though and agree with the retard sentiment.

            Now please go learn the definition of the word context so that you can stop taking things out of it.

          • Joslyn Thomas

            Well… I agree with the logic. Dick is equally pejorative. Female genitalia is used to mean weak and cowardly, and male genitalia is used to mean aggressive and rude. Both words are sexist and problematic when they’re used in those ways.

          • Bob Trower

            Is a weak, rude, cowardly and aggressive person considered transgender? Or is it important to wear combat boots and a dress?

          • BarleySinger

            Actually both genitalia based insults are sexist.

            I don’t use them any more. I have never used “pussy” as an insult for anyone. Although its origins started off as an abbreviation for pusillanimous, it has long since become a synonym for a vagina (and it is used by female hating idiots in this manner).

            I am trying to stick with insults like “asshat”, “jackass”… or more directed statements that are not a single word.

          • Kian O’Floinn

            Probably because you are a pussy and would have your ass kicked.

          • Orwellian Times

            The term “pussy” was not derived from referencing a man to a vagina, therefore it has nothing to do with being sexist at all, although imbecilic SJW’s and Femi-Numpty’s seem to think it does. Uneducated simps!

            It is derived from the word “pusillanimous”, meaning cowardly or timid.
            The King’s English, study it sometime.

          • You’re wrong (and so was Trump in his defense of the word as well) about the Term “Pussy” being a shorthand word for “pusillanimous”

            I am not a SJW but I do study linguistics, more so the history of English and its mother tongue ” West Germanic” but I am getting off topic. Here is a link to an AWESOME blog about Language in the modern world and where it came from, talking about this very Topic “http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=24012”

            Nice try tho…

          • BarleySinger

            And of course this also involves being quite rude toward our beloved fictional “Bill the Cat”, by using his name (on this site) and then acting like a member of “Klan Lite” (30% less racism, 300% unwarranted feelings of racial persecution over being white).

          • Kian O’Floinn

            Funny, Klan lite. Never seen that before. Wigger.

          • duh

          • RM4213

            not only are you immature and quick to anger..you are a shinning example of what is wrong with our countries race relations. you have mentioned whiteness in both of your comments for absolutely no reason whatsoever… think about why you’re doing that..

          • Bill the Cat

            LMAO ;>)

            Go try that BS with someone who might be young enough or gullible enough to buy it.

          • C Hicks

            Yes, Bill the pu–y, you’re showing your true colors and age now.

        • Joseph Edward Bodden

          review board? do you know how many of these accidental murders are crossed off as ‘justified’ and NO ONE EVER SAYS who the JUSTIFIER IS? Maybe a janitor in a station closet armed with a rubber stamp?

          • Bill the Cat

            Maybe it’s some loud-mouth on the internet flapping his gums about something that he knows nothing about?

            WinkwinknudgenudgeknowhatImean?

          • Agent Michael Scarn

            Are you looking in the mirror?

          • John Baker

            A know-nothing, loud-mouthed gum-flapper such as yourself?

            Your particular brand of arrogance is generally seen only in the very young and the very stupid. Which are you?

          • Bill the Cat

            LOL

            Try to do something a bit more original than

            Alinsky: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it

            All followups from leftwing nitwit ignored.

        • Nancy Ellis

          So cops become jury, judge and executioners? Don’t criminals deserve a trial?

          • PoliticallyAcceptableTarget

            Nope, not always. We empower cops to protect themselves & us against lethal threats. It is for the courts to decide if a crime was committed. That’s how the system works. Next time, perhaps we should let the morons in Milwaukee hand out summary mob justice instead. That sound wise? Yeah, didn’t think so.

          • Stu Johnson

            Not the case here. This guy was shot for speeding. His threatening gestures were sign language. It has not one fucking thing to do with the criminal that pointed a gun at a cop in Milwaukee. Pointing a stolen gun at a cop is supposed to get you killed, speeding and being deaf isn’t. Why are you trying to make these separate and very different cases the same thing? They aren’t. This is about an over aggressive cop shooting a deaf man. It’s about someone who went into a dangerous profession being trigger happy.

          • Paul Agostini

            The deaf kid probably pointed his thumb and forefinger at the cop, the cop thought it was a gun, feared for his life and killed him.

          • Jerry Friend

            Where did you get he was shot for speeding. it says above for unknown reason, I thought I had read yesterday it was for failure to stop at a stop sign, but it appears you know more than what was published?

          • Robert DeSantis

            This article says he was stopped for speeding and was shot when he got out of his car .

          • Rod

            My proffesion as a builder is more dangerous than a cops.

          • Abresh Arquah

            Actually, no, it is not supposed to ‘get you killed’ as shown by the NUMEROUS instances of police taking into custody people who pointed firearms and actually shot them at them, managing to take them into custody without ANY wounds to the accused.

          • Hugh Culliton

            “We empower cops to protect themselves & us against lethal threats.”
            By “us” you mean the public. Harris was a member of the public. Given that he was non-violent and unarmed, instead of being protected as was his right ad the police’s duty, he was arbitrarily murdered.
            That sound wise? Yeah, didn’t think so.

          • PoliticallyAcceptableTarget

            1) But cops are allowed to kill members of the public if they’re a lethal threat to an officer or other members of society. That’s their legal right, as it should be.

            2) We simply don’t have enough facts yet. The investigation is in its early stages. Saying he was “arbitrarily murdered” is deplorably presumptuous. Cops randomly “murdering” civilians is extremely rare. You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning, statistically speaking. With that said, why you believe that in this case is beyond me.
            3) Nothing else you’ve written is persuasive, sensible or based in any known fact. Perhaps Harris was just arbitrarily murdered. It does happen. Time, of course, will tell.

          • Hugh Culliton

            “But cops are allowed to kill members of the public if they’re a lethal threat to an officer or other members of society. That’s their legal right, as it should be.”

            Funny how many harmless people seem to magically become “lethal threats to police” and how often and quickly police are ready to resort to lethal force. The big problem is that what police consider “lethal threats” is basically anyone who isn’t a police officer. That’s a problem.

            ” We simply don’t have enough facts yet. The investigation is in its early stages. Saying he was “arbitrarily murdered” is deplorably presumptuous. Cops randomly “murdering” civilians is extremely rare. You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning, statistically speaking. With that said, why you believe that in this case is beyond me.”

            Cops unnecessarily killing one civillians is too many. But so far this year the total (753) vastly exceeds the numbers of Americans killed by both lightening (29) AND terrorism (8)combined. As of Aug 24, 753 people have been killed by American police this year – compared to a TOTAL of 37 killed by lightening and terrorism! How many billions of dollars are invested in counter-terrorism annually? Police killings are a very serious problem! Last year police killed 1207 people, in 2014, it was 1111. http://killedbypolice.net/ Were some justified? Absolutely. However most could have been avoided. You say”but you weren’t there – you don’t know that”. To that I’d point you toward Radley Balko’s Rise of the Warrior Cop: the Militarization of America’s Police Forces. His data is current and damning. https://www.amazon.ca/Rise-Warrior-Cop-Militarization-Americas-ebook/dp/B00B3M3UFQ

            “3) An automobile in a residential neighborhood, with children around, can certainly be construed as a weapon in the wrong hands. Remember Nice?”

            Irrelevant. But if you insist on dragging the terrorist boogy-man back into this, I’d remind you that so far this year 8 Americans have died (all overseas) in terrorist attacks, while in the US, 753 Americans have been killed by American police.

            ” Nothing else you’ve written is persuasive, sensible or based in any known fact. Perhaps Harris was just arbitrarily murdered. It does happen. Time, of course, will tell.”

            I’ve included some of the sources I base my analysis on. Please feel free to read through them. If you want a more complete bibliography, let me know and I’ll e-mail it to you as it runs several pages.

          • Bill the Cat

            Red Herring ignored.

          • medusa7ful .

            Well the field will be even if citizens continue to fear for their lives!!

          • Robert DeSantis

            This guy wasn’t a criminal . He was speeding .

          • Da Kine

            Nope, not a criminal, but none the less broke the law to a sufficient degree to warrant police involvement that ended tragically. If I were in his shoes l don’t think I would be doing anything that would cause me to get the attention of the police or possibly another driver prone to road rage. Had he been driving responsibility, he wouldn’t be dead now.

          • LJ

            By this logic, a cop has the right to shoot you too if you speed. His disability has nothing to do with it.

            Just want you to think about the America you’re proposing here.

          • Da Kine

            How do you draw the conclusion that the police has the right to shoot me if I’m speeding? I have no communication disabilities. It was my understanding that his inability to effectively communicate was misinterpreted by the officer resulting in the shooting.

            The police would not have any reason to confront the guy if he had not been speeding. Another way of making my point in this instance is to say if he had not been speeding, the police would not have had a reason to get involved. If you have a disability that could make it difficult to communicate with society in general, don’t break the law or you could invite police involvement. It’s tragic how this ended.

          • Hugh Culliton

            Your argument relies on treating the police officer as a non-conscious actor and therefor free of any responsibility. Use of force however is the reverse. The police are conscious, they initiate and control the contact with the public. It’s their responsibility to see that that contact is preformed as safely and respectfully as possible FOR EVERYONE. Harris cannot be blamed for his own death simply because he might have infringed on a traffic regulation, or because he was deaf. The responsibility for his death rests with the police officer who shot him.

          • Emma

            Have there been any updates on this , do you know?

          • Hugh Culliton

            Not that I’ve seen yet.

          • Emma

            Thank you. I have looked.
            Nothing…

          • Emma

            Found a small blurb this morn.
            Seems was a black officer , white victim.
            Man was moving toward officer & did not follow instructions.
            Witnesses say cop opened fire immed upon exiting patrol car.
            Does not look good.

          • Abresh Arquah

            White cop, black victim or the inverse, shooting someone who is using sign language and not being aggressive is dismissal level nonsense.

          • Emma

            He may have been being aggressive. We don’t know one way or another .
            Just because a person is deaf & doesn’t speak does not preclude being aggressive.
            I would like to see the tape.
            He knew the officer was stopping him. He has rearview & side mirrors.
            If he did not want to stop until home, he should have put n his emergency flashers & lowered his speed.
            When all the data is in,
            then maybe we’ll know something.
            There was a wtness or witnesses that stated the officer began firing as he/she was exiting vehicle.
            Wait & see.
            If it shows against the police officer, that isn’t just dismissal, that would be a murder charge I would imagine

          • LJ

            You’re blaming someone with disabilities for having them and placing an undo burden on them while letting the officer off without any blame.

            Furthermore, you’re expecting people with disabilities to go about in society with even more burdens and ‘take extra care’ or even more care than those without lest they get shot for something as basic as speeding.

            Are you even paying attention to what you write?

            Being deaf isn’t a crime. So yes, what I wrote is appropriate.

          • Hugh Culliton

            Really? Blaming the victim? That is the lamest bullshit excuse for a police shooting I’ve read in the last couple of months. Are you serious? If you are, the logical extension of your “reasoning” is that anyone the police engage with in the course of their day, had better be very, very careful because they should assume that, regardless of their innocence, regardless of the trivial nature of their contact with the officer, there’s a high degree of probability that they’ll be shot. “Well, if he didn’t speed/drive with a broken light/fail to use his turn signal/ breath too hard/have offensive BO/reach for his waistband/be black the officer wouldn’t be involved and therefore the officer’s not responsible for shooting them – it was their fault.”
            That reasoning is beyond fucked-up, because if that’s the metric we use to measure police behavior, then forget Daesh, forget crack-heads, and forget nuclear war – the police are a vastly greater threat to public safety then those three put together.

          • Rod

            Indeed, you are more likely to be shot by a cop than a terrorist. 3.4 people a day this year.

          • LJ

            Traffic tickets aren’t criminal. They’re in a different court altogether. You can’t even have a lawyer unless it’s something like DUI.

            JFC.

        • beetsville

          I know exactly what happened, Jermaine Saunders murdered Daniel Kevin Harris in cold blood just for kicks.

          • Bill the Cat

            Thanks for making my point for me.

        • uncontainable_spirit

          You are an idiot.

          • Bill the Cat

            LOL… when you get into the Four Sigma Society, get back to me with that 🙂

          • C Hicks

            If they dared let a looooooowwwww EI guy in like yourself, no one cares to be part of that society.

        • Paul Agostini

          Yeah, “in-house” review boards. No agenda there. Snark

          • 42p0ner

            Great points here, everyone. Just remember that police officers weren’t exactly topping their class in grade school through high school. They’re not exactly the cream of the crop intelligence-wise. They don’t really know how to do complex reasoning. We should give cops more room since they are literal retards.
            Cops don’t exactly “choose” their career path.

          • Wax

            Than let’s pay the position enough money so the cream will rise to the top. Pay cops 100,000 a year. You will get the best than. But just what I thought no one wants to pay for it.

          • gininitaly
        • machomachoman

          The fact that people are protesting a black cop shooting an unarmed black man just goes to show you that it’s not about the race of the shooter.. It’s about the fact that cops are using deadly weapons on unamrned people. And this occurs disportionately with black victims. Cops need better psychological vetting and better training. It’s a tough and scary job and if they are too scared to do it right, then don’t do it. If getting home to your spouse and kids each night is a driving force behind you shooitng unarmed people, than you need another career. And if your bigotry causes you to pick on black people even though we know most violent crimes in the US are perpetrated by whites, you need another job.

          • Bill the Cat

            Oh, blathering nonsense.

            The “people [who] are protesting rioting” *assumed* it was a white cop, and were encouraged to do so by various groups and the media.

            As for the rest, you’re either ignorant, lying or both.

            Given the rate at which blacks *commit* violent crimes and are apprehended for such, that is an *astonishingly* low number.

            Blacks — approximately 13% of the population — *OWN* the violent crime statistics in the US.

            Example:

            2012 (Jan-June) New York City arrests by Race (from the City of New York)

            Crime White Black Hispanic

            Murder/manslaughter 11.2% 55.3% 29.4%

            Run along, now.

          • RM4213

            hey shouldn’t you be picking up your white hood at the dry cleaners now

          • Bill the Cat

            LMAO :>)

            You really aren’t too bright, are you?

            Democrats started the KKK.

            Democrats wrote the Jim Crow Laws.

            Democrats filibustered and voted against the Civil Rights Act, and would have defeated it had it not been for Republicans.

            Democrats have the only Senator to have been a member of and a recruiter for the KKK — Robert “Sheets” Byrd, Democrat

            Democrats FULLY back Planned Parenthood — which was started for the express purpose of reducing / eliminating the minority population.

            Quotes from Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger:

            “[We should] apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and
            segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.”

            “Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”

            “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with
            social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”

          • 1ArmyVet

            I will give you credit here; you seemed to know your history. ” The most successful educational approach to a negro is a religious appeal.” That would be true a few years back battle. Things are changing with time….we started to see a different and a smarter generation.

          • Bill the Cat

            Changing? Not much, yet.

            Democrats still run the same playbook. They’ve no reason to rework it, given the level at which blacks vote Democrat. There *does* seem to be a break in that pattern developing with Trump, though.

          • Aspenffxi

            Blacks vote? If you think there is a high level of Blacks voting, you are mistaken. I know some of us who didn’t even get up and vote for Obama. Racist white people like you are scared of us voting; that is why you try so hard to keep us from it. It is the same reason why black leaders fight so hard to get us to vote. Imagine if we actually voted! Racist White people vote. That is how the Tea Party took over Congress… That is how Trump is your nominee.

            The only thing that is changing is good White people are now speaking out against y’all racists. There are more good White people than you booty clown racists. Obama got 40% of the White vote. I believe that number will climb for Democrats if you racist booty clowns keep running racist, 47% talking, build a wall bigots. So go back in your closet and stfu. White people are tired of hearing your garbage, and us Blacks have BEEN tired of it.

          • Bill the Cat

            ” Racist white people like you are scared of us voting…”

            Dude, I’m not a Democrat. Why u hatin on me?

            Democrats started the KKK.

            Democrats wrote the Jim Crow Laws…. and on and on and on.

            If you’re too dumb to understand that, maybe you’re part of the problem?

            Followups for obvious race baiter ignored.

          • Aspenffxi

            You are too dumb to understand the basic gist of what is going on. You just talk Fox News garbage then ban someone that can debate your coward booty. Just like a coward Republican… Build a wall instead of addressing the problem…

          • Joslyn Thomas

            No one cares that you’re not a Democrat – they’re responding to what you have written. If you think that the team you choose in this two party system is important to this discussion, then you’re missing the point completely.

          • Bill the Cat

            You really are a special sort of stupid, aren’t you, short-bus?

            Your statement demonstrates that you either didn’t understand what I wrote or you didn’t read it.

            And you think *I’m* missing the point? LMAO

            Dunnings-Kruger — look it up and you’ll get a description of your problem.

          • Joslyn Thomas

            I know what the Dunnings-Kruger effect is, thanks. Do you know what projection is? Because that would be an effective description of your problem.

          • Leonard Gresham Sr.

            Southern democrats or “Dixiecrats” that are now republicans or vote republican every sense Johnson sign the civil rights bill. I don’t believe black people have allies in politics democrat or republican and until we organize and/or unify nothing will change. We have power, that power should be concentrated and our “leaders” should brokers working for the best deal in return for our vote

          • Aspenffxi

            Tell um Leonard. Once in College they will learn real history if they choose to take the courses. They think party lines distort racism…

          • Bill the Cat

            “…now republicans…”

            *Why* do you idiots *always* try this argument? It just doesn’t work.

            When the Democrat Party drops support of Planned Parenthood and the Republicans pick it up, come back with that crap and you *might* have a plausible argument.

            Stupid followups ignored.

          • Emma

            If you wouldn’t get out of bed to vote , even for obama, how is this anyone else’s fault?
            Are you not responsible enough to get up to VOTE?!
            Since, by your own admission you don’t have enough gumption, self respect or love & respect for AMERICA to Vote, you have No right to complain or fuss because You Shirked YOUR RESPONSIBILITY as an
            American Citizen!

          • Aspenffxi

            Who is applying fault other than you? I’m telling it like it is, and I agree with you. You have no right to complain if you did not vote. I did. Many did not. Did you somehow garner I did not vote? lol. I voted for Obama. Twice. Your argument is the same as our black leaders say to our youth. So we agree. You must be Republican? By that statement, I mean to jump the gun and accuse me.

          • Emma

            Yes, I took it to mean you did not bother to vote.
            Question.. why did you vote for obama? Curious..
            I am a registered republican as I vote in primaries.
            What I am is a common sense conservative.
            The dem &gop ?
            Nearly no dif any more.
            Rinos are running rampant.
            Most politicians are traitors or riding the line.

          • Aspenffxi

            Once they approve my post you will see it…

          • Emma

            I don’t see it.

          • Aspenffxi

            They have not approved it I guess…. Controversial?

          • Emma

            They seem to do that a lot.
            I have had a couple they simply did not put up.
            I don’t use bad language nor am I nasty.
            As a rule.
            I speak plainly but not into name calling , racism, bad language etc.
            So far I see you hold to the same standards, so I don’t know. ?

          • Aspenffxi

            I do! Ummmm short? The other was long, lol. I liked his drone policy, his rich pay fair share policy, corporation pay fair share, healthcare, and he is black. I had explanations for each point.

          • Emma

            How do you feel about all that now?
            Do you feel like he came through on any or all?
            How would you rate him.?
            Btw.. you realize obama is not black, right?
            Mulatto at best, but looks more arab to me. Jmo

          • Emma

            BTW… I am not racist. Lol
            Not even close. ?

          • C Hicks

            Touche, bill the pu–y hiding behind anonymity. lol

          • Bill the Cat

            Red Herring ignored

          • Joslyn Thomas

            Come on now people. Stop calling Bill the Cat names like “retard” and “pussy.” You’re taking away from your own message and you’re being hateful and oppressive to women and the disabled in the process. You’re proving yourselves to be just as ignorant as the person you’re arguing with.

          • C Hicks

            You may be right… am reflecting a mirror back on him.

          • Aspenffxi

            You are a dumb jock. It does not matter if your white, southern Democrats were part of the KKK. Every White person in the south was, you flaming idiot. Start counting Democrats from 50 years ago you dumb jock. And Planned Parenthood was started to help the disenfranchised with family planning services and rape assistance. For every abortion they perform, hundreds of poor people carry the baby to term due to their help. Also, many of the poor have access to contraception, needed paps, and sexually transmitted disease tests. You are a piece of donkey dung.

            And those bogus NYC stats you claim, you fail to mention how your racist people target blacks with stop, question, and frisk laws, and broken windows policing. Of course you catch more black people if you are only targeting black people. And your dumb jock booty said national, then blurb out stats about a city with black targeting laws. You are what is wrong with this country. Crawl back to Rush Limbaugh and Fox News with your dumb talking points.

          • Bill the Cat

            Dumba44 race baiter ignored.

          • Aspenffxi

            Like I said, a coward Republican… You all are just alike. You will phase out in the dust soon. One your racist generation dies, we will all live in harmony.

          • Emma

            Excellent & factual post. Thank you

          • Aspenffxi

            Not factual Emma. You must read in-between the lines. These are Fox News talking points. I know you are smarter than Fox News… Release the anger and talk. Release it, then we can talk.

          • Joslyn Thomas

            why would you assume that someone you don’t know is smarter than Fox News?

          • Aspenffxi

            You got me on that one… I would just like to believe these people cannot possibly believe Fox News… Sigh…

          • Bill the Cat

            Unfortunately, it is factual, and too many people — white and black — fail to appreciate Santayana’s warning:

            ” Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

          • Real Dude82

            You aren’t a racist? You just AGREED with something Bill the Cat said…..ANYBODY who believes anything that scum has to say is “truthful” is racist. ANYBODY who watches FOX news is racist. ANYBODY who supports Trump is racist.

          • 1ArmyVet

            So you get your statistics from the media you are all over this discussion board. I think you are racist!

          • Bill the Cat

            Lackwit, the “statistics” came from the FBI etc. and they’re freely available to anyone who cares to look them up.

            “Racist.” LOL Whatever, dude. Thank for noticing.

          • machomachoman

            Blacks own the crime stats because they are targeted. That’s the whole idea behind the movement. Duh…..

          • Bill the Cat

            HAHAH HAHAH HAHAHAHahahahah hahHAhah hahahah hahahah hahah hahaaaaa aaa….a…..a…….

            gasssssssssssppppppPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

            Bwahahahah hahah hahah hahah hahah hahah hahahah hahah

            OMG, that is funny!

            Hey, Dumba44! Kindly note that I’m talking about **VIOLENT** crime: murder, rape, GBH etc. That’s not the sort of thing that they just let you off for because they like your skin color. Also, kindly note that the statistics are from the FBI (i.e., the government that you love)

            You’re an idiot. That doesn’t make you a bad person, but being a *willful* idiot does.

            Silly, misinformed followups ignored.

          • C Hicks

            Bill the pu–y, you throw out statistics taken out of context… depending on how one comes up with the numbers, you can prove any biased point.

          • Bill the Cat

            FBI statistics, dumba44 🙂

          • C Hicks

            LOL – OOooooohhhhh J. Edgar Hoover FBI stats, now you’re really saying something 😉

        • 1ArmyVet

          How can you assumed the guy killed by a Milwaukee officer was a criminal? We’re you there with himduring his criminal acts? You seems to doing a lot of gum actions. Slow down!

          • Bill the Cat

            Assumed? No-one is “assuming” anything, except you, lackwit.

            Next time, rather than “doing a log of gum actions,” give some thought to actually doing some research. It might keep your a55 from overrunning your mouth.

            Followups from you ignored.

          • John Baker

            Run away, brave Sir Robin. What a pathetic waste of oxygen you are.

          • Bill the Cat

            LMAO ;>)

            Oh, right. Sure!

            It makes a LOT more sense to play silly-buggers with some idiot like you! LOL

            FO, troll.

        • C Hicks

          Weeeellllll, I guess you wouldn’t trust yourself with all the flapping you’re doing, bill the pu–y.

          • Bill the Cat

            LMAO — I’d add your drivel to the kill list, but you’re not worth the couple clicks it would take 🙂

            All followups from you ignored.

            Have a bitter tomorrow LOL

          • C Hicks

            … and you of all people should know about drivel…
            too bad, what a pity. Ciao.

        • gininitaly

          I didn’t see anything in her comment about race, it was about how cops have become over-violent in general… so how did you pull black vs white out of your hat?

          • Bill the Cat

            Well, maybe you should read a bit more and write a bit less, then?

        • Hugh Culliton

          You’re conflating 2 completely unrelated ideas. One has nothing to do with the other.

          • Bill the Cat

            PO, lackwit.

          • Hugh Culliton

            Good, you agree.

          • Bill the Cat

            LMAO ;>) Quite. I “agree” that you’re a “lackwit.”

            Ask your cell-leader to sign you up for a refresher in Debating for Leftist Dummies 101 — that tactic goes down faster than your boyfriend LOL

            Followups ignored

          • Hugh Culliton

            LOL – “follow-ups ignored”? Really?

        • Basiclife1

          Problem is, the review board is amde up of the officer’s friends and colleagues. Plus… What are they going to do? Side with the victim? They’d be ostracised and unable to do their job, so they tow the official line.

          If this doesn’t came back as “The officer complied with all our policies and was afraid for his life” I’ll be stunned.

          In fact, all any officer has to say is “I was scared”. It doesn’t even have to be reasonable fear.

          • Bill the Cat

            “Problem is” that without film etc. you’re into who do you trust.

            Without any indication to the contrary, I’ll side with the police.

            Kindly note that you’re talking about a *State* policeman — they’re not know for being quick to shoot people etc.

          • Basiclife1

            I’m aware that I’m generalising, and being very unfair to some officers who really _do_ do the right thing. FWIW I’d always give an officer the benefit of the doubt. Plus, I take your point re: it being a state police officer.

            With that said… Police departments across the country have shown time and again that if an officer bends the rules, everyone will look the other way for as long as they possibly can.

            Failure to do so can result in anything from being ostracised, to being given more dangerous assignments to ridiculous extremes (like forcibly having an officer committed to a mental institution to prevent him leaking recordings of a staff briefing!). There are countless examples of this “blue code” being reported, often while huge cover-ups are exposed.

            With an institutional culture like that, I can’t understand why anyone would trust a police officer any more than a petty criminal.

          • Bill the Cat

            ” I can’t understand why anyone would trust a police officer any more than a petty criminal.”

            The answer to that question is quite simple: one is less likely to be robbed or murdered by a policeman than a career criminal etc.

            That is unarguable.

          • Basiclife1

            At least as long as you don’t exercise your rights, don’t irritate them, and don’t want to make a complaint about them…

          • Bill the Cat

            You’ve segued from an unsupportable position to strawmen arguments and general stupidity.

            If you don’t want the police in your neighborhood, fine. I’ll happily accept what would have been sent into your neighborhood in mine.

            Followups ignored.

          • Basiclife1

            There are multiple documented cases of people being harrassed for trying to complain about police officers, and and endless stream of videos showing what happens if you dare to “disrespect” a cop.

            Still, if you wish to shove your fingers in your ears and ignore the discussion, you surprise me not at all. Frankly, it characterises your position.

          • Bill the Cat

            LMAO — idiot ignored.

          • Basiclife1

            Point proven, thanks.

          • Bill the Cat
          • Basiclife1

            You’re great at being insulting. You seem to be considerably less effective when it comes to presenting a case, making an argument or -well- adding anything of value.

            _Do_ you actually have a rational argument for your position?

          • Bill the Cat
        • sexybuu

          that is a fucking lie smh

          • Bill the Cat

            Idiot ignored.

        • James

          “But I’d certainly trust a review board” Yep that’s your problem. Review boards clear bad cops and bad shootings all the time. They are part of the blue line epidemic. A good cop ceases to be good the second they lie or cover up for a bad cop or a bad shooting.

          • Bill the Cat

            Do cops lie? Sure.

            Are the #BLM a44wipes a **LOT** worse? Oh, *H3LL YES*.

            The problem is that if I’m forced to choose a side, I’ll go with the cops barring audo-visual evidence to the contrary.

            Oh, and if you want to block highways etc., I’m not feeling too sorry for you if you’re run down.

        • James Latham

          Trust a review board that is full of cops? Go crawl back into your hole.

          • Bill the Cat

            Soros is looking for a BJ… what are you doing here?

    • Jimtaryon

      It’s true, the law does say that: when a cop tries to pull you over you should move to the side of the road; UNLESS YOU ARE DEAF, then you should lead the cops on a high speed chase.

      • implicaverse .

        Please turn off your reality distortion field. It wasn’t a high speed chase, he wasn’t running away, he was going home. And since when is there a death penalty for trying to communicate with a police officer using sign language?

        • Jake Lamotta

          So both vehicles became damaged…how?

          • Fay Brewer

            They could be charging through playgrounds like they were in a Transporter movie and it still is not cool to gun down an unarmed man.

          • ApexOversteer

            Not cool, sure. Cops fault? Not at all.

          • Fay Brewer

            Respectfully disagree.

          • John Foytek

            it IS the cops fault. you are a fucking MORON

          • Jerry Friend

            Really, you seem to be willing to excuse the LEO without even knowing all the facts

          • 42p0ner

            It’s really not the cop’s fault. Half-wit retards are really the only people employed by the police who get into these situations. He is literally a stupid person. As in, he struggled with basic mathematics in high school, pretty much guaranteed. Let’s blame the mayor and the folks who hire these idiots.

          • Joslyn Thomas

            While this is offensively phrased, you’re not wrong. A high IQ can keep you off the police force. Our cities intentionally hire people that are not as smart as the basic population because lower IQs tend to mean more blind obedience. “Half wit retard” is obnoxious though, and your use of it makes you seem like your IQ might be right within Police Academy range.

          • 42p0ner

            Sweet, maybe I’ll apply. Thanks for the blurb! I was just mouthing off; I had no idea that they kept high-IQ people off the police force! I graciously thank you for your enlightening comment!

          • Joslyn Thomas

            Well in that case the car is the weapon, and the person driving the car is using it to kill children… I think you just came up with the one example where shooting an unarmed driver would be the correct thing to do.

          • Jeff

            I have no idea, but it is possible (and in my state, Texas) legal for an officer to use their vehicle to force another driver off the road. It’s possible the cop ran into the other driver in an attempt to stop the vehicle. It’s possible the deaf driver decided to run for it for some reason and ran into the cop. We won’t know until an inquiry is completed, or someone has cell phone (or dash cam) video.

          • hodg

            EXACTLY what I was thinking. Guy didn’t pull over, cop “nudges” him over to the side of the road? “Both cars damaged” could mean a lot of things.

        • Jimtaryon

          from the article: “During the pursuit, both cars became damaged”

          How do some many of you idiots comment if you cannot read?

        • Jimtaryon

          http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article98872112.html

          “a chase down I-485 that reached speeds of up to 100 mph, the mile
          markers whipping by. He reports twice trying to stop Harris’ Volvo,
          first by strategically ramming the vehicle, then attempting a “rolling
          road block” later in the chase.

          Neither works. Less than three minutes into the audio, Saunders says he tried
          to “PIT” Harris out on the exit ramp from I-485 onto Rocky River Road.
          That’s short for “Precision Immobilization Technique,” in which an
          officer forces the fleeing driver to spin sideways and stop.

          A
          video from a nearby motorist acquired by WSOC Channel 9 appears to show
          the immediate aftermath of the maneuver, with the cars of Harris and
          Saunders both stopped and perpendicular to each other. Harris, though,
          backs up and speeds off, with Saunders jumping into his car and again
          giving chase.”

      • PJ London

        The Road Traffic Management Corporation and Justice Project South Africa: Blue light protocol
        Motorists are advised to study this advisory carefully and to commit the procedures to memory. If you follow the instructions to a tee there should be no reason for you to become endangered by either legitimate or bogus police.

        If you are followed by a vehicle, marked or not, with blue flashing lights and it indicates for you to pull over, particularly at night, you would be wise not to do so if you feel uneasy or unsure that they are genuine police. Instead, it may be wise for you to indicate that you wish to proceed to a police station or public place before stopping.

        However you must bear in mind that not stopping for genuine police can immediately escalate the situation and may endanger you further if you do not take extreme care to abide by ALL OF the rules laid down here.

        When indicating to the occupant/s of the vehicle following you that you wish to have them follow you to a place of safety do the following:

        1. Stay calm

        2. Slow right down and turn your hazard lights on and then:

        Extend your right arm out of the window with an tightly outspread hand extended into the air with your forearm at 90 degrees to your shoulder
        Gesture for them to follow you by moving your forearm forward and back to the upright, and repeat this action several times
        Drive at NO MORE THAN 40km/h and proceed DIRECTLY to the CLOSEST police station or public place with CCTV cameras in operation, like a service station forecourt
        DO NOT drive to your own, or a friend of yours’ home, as this may endanger you and your loved ones if those following you are not genuine police

        There is a massive difference between evading, or fleeing from police and having them follow you to a place of safety.

        Both members of the public and genuine police should feel comfortable with this protocol, since it offers protection from attack in an isolated place by moving the stop to a public place where witnesses and assistance should be around.

        Great place to live, and the cops are real officers. Not thugs.

        • Jimtaryon

          Another one with reading problems. “Waiting to pull over” is not the same sentence as “High speed chase”

          Also…you just implied that South Africa has a better cop/civilian relations, so…this is not the first time you’ve failed to understand something you read.

          • PJ London

            Holy sh1t took you a month to work out a simple (and stupid) answer.
            He was probably scared that the stupid cops (are you also one of the d*ckheads) would not realise he was deaf and would assault him for not complying because he could not hear what they were saying. Oh yes because it had happened before.
            The only problem with cops and guns, is that they do not shoot themselves as often as one would like.

      • Joseph Edward Bodden

        holy crap! have you been reading the headlines on all the instances posted here? You think deaf means unable to read? the cops was not the one fearing for his life here so that isn’t gonna fly.

        • Jimtaryon

          Speaking of learning to read: my post was a specific response to something someone else wrote. High speed chases are not safer than puling over. If you still don’t know that, then cops are not even the tip of the iceberg of the dangers you are going to face in this life.

      • There are some real psychos and authority worshipers trolling Free Thought Project, apparently.

    • Eyam TheZombie

      In my state, it is acceptable to proceed to a safe, well-lit place. You’re supposed to turn on your blinkers and drive at a safe speed. Both cars were damaged here. That doesn’t lead me to believe this dude was merely looking for a translator.

      • LaDon Aridge

        You know if one car strikes another car both become damaged right?

        So, cop could be irritated that the car didn’t stop when he sounded his horn (you know because he’s deaf). Decides to pull him over forcibly using his own car and now you have two cars damaged.

        • Eyam TheZombie

          So, the dude was blind as well as deaf? He didn’t see the police lights for SIX miles? Maybe, like you, he had his head up his ass.

          • LaDon Aridge

            “So, cop could be irritated that the car didn’t stop when he sounded his horn ”

            Not every cop flashes his lights. A lot of times they just hit the horn…you know as I said above.

          • Eyam TheZombie

            I have never been pulled over without the cop using his lights. If he didn’t use the lights for SIX MILES, why did the deaf man tear up his car in the process of fleeing?

          • LaDon Aridge

            I have. You react to the siren just as much as you do to the lights.

            As far as the rest of your statement, neither you nor I know if he “tore up his car.” We know both cars are damaged, heck we know last week in the Chicago shooting of a fleeing suspect that an officer pulled his car in front of the suspects fleeing car to disable it. Both cars were damaged in that case which fits the description of all that we know at this point. (On another note, since I said that in my original post I am concerned with your reading ability.)

          • Eyam TheZombie

            Ah, yes. The requisite personal insult for which you people are known. lol Did you drive for six miles after the cop turned on his lights???

          • LaDon Aridge

            Ah yes, the requisite holy crap He did say that exact thing a day ago so let me change the subject for which you people are known.

          • Eyam TheZombie

            I didn’t change the subject. I gave you the answer, and you’re denying it. By the way, I’ve had to repeat myself, also… It’s worse for me because I am correct and you’re too dim to see the other side.

          • LaDon Aridge

            Oh and a hypocrite to boot. What was that you were saying about personal insults again?

          • Eyam TheZombie

            You opened that door, son.

        • Wax

          This was a high speed chase. Media seems to have left this out. What else are they leaving out?

      • Ah yes, good old victim blaming. The guy is dead no less-than-lethal force was used.

        • Eyam TheZombie

          He’s not a victim. He’s an idiot who led the police on a chase and got his fool ass shot.

          • You must be a troll or a psychopath to say that about someone handicapped getting killed.

          • Eyam TheZombie

            Are you telling me there are no handicapped idiots, or are you telling me I have to be a psychopath to acknowledge that there are handicapped idiots?

    • Emma

      He could or should have put on
      his emergency flashers dropped his speed, not accelerate, & the cop would or should have realized there was an issue.
      Jmo

    • CoD

      For 7 miles? Really?

  • i’ve noticed how the term “man” or “woman” is only used after someone has been killed by police.. before that, they’re dehumanized with terms like suspect, perp, individual, and categorized by farming terms such as (white/black/asian/hispanic) male and female. whereas cops killed ILOD are never referred to as “man” or “woman” they always identified by their agent of the State status first, then husband/wife, father/mother, second – only to play the emotional card. it’s psychological warfare, human farming ideology – to those who created these many systems of control, “humans” are considered property (especially those in uniform – who are basically clueless as to WHO they really work for). this is why they’re only given the illusion of freedom, which they take as reality so they kill each other for it – it’s a very effective invisible fence – the entire planet is a prison plantation. ….but you don’t have to take my word for it, it’s becoming more and more obvious by the second.

  • William Beals

    These two cars upon arrival were badly damaged because this moron (who has apparently been a f*ck up for some time now) decided not to pull the hell over when the officer tried to pull him over. Deaf, didn’t hear the sirens. That doesn’t allow for stupidity as I am sure he saw the lights. Yet the ignorance of this “poor innocent” man getting into a demolition derby with an officer of the law demands such actions and not in the slightest should this officer be blamed at fault. You keep making excuses for these idiots and you will see how far it gets them. Deaf mute or not this guy knows what the hell it means when an officer pulls you over and he knew what he should have done. He made the wrong decision and it cost him his life.

    • Calvin Pierce Jr

      You are definitely a proud Trump Supporter. God Bless You!

      • Dannyboy 76

        And you’re a good idiot who’s never put his life on the line.

    • AHodges

      If a police officer can’t handle a situation like this without resorting to lethal violence, he has no business being a cop. Nothing the victim did warrants being shot in cold blood.

  • AJ

    Saunders should be tried and convicted for Capital (1st degree) murder.

  • Uncle Arty

    In Norway it takes 3 years to become a cop, most of that training is spent on deescalation. Here it takes 6 weeks and if your lucky the cop gets 18 hours of training to deescalate and 5 weeks on firearms training. And since 9/11 cops have killed more people here than all the soldiers killed in Irag and Afghanistan combined.

  • mineralt

    Horrible. The police are going to end up working for the Feds soon is my guess. Local communities can’t seem to keep it together. You have to seriously question the training or lack of training that is going on. It is as if these cops are being taught “fear first”. Secondly, why are they all obese?

  • Buck Rogers

    No surprise to me at all i watch for the next killing on the media and lots is never hitting the media for the public to see . sweep it under the rug but parents needs to be given much for there loss like millions for this to even affect the county this happened in . Sue and sue big never settle .

  • Lynn Detamore

    I’m deaf in one ear and very hard of hearing with some variation in the other ear, from moderate to crap. I always have to be concerned with what I’d do in an encounter with police on a crap day, or where there’s background noise.

    Oh, I’m also allergic to latex and rubber. I’ve had my tongue swell up. Cops are Covered with latex and rubber. Oops.

  • politiciansuck

    I’m carrying a gun in my car as protection from the police.

  • Gary Harryman

    It’s time for Americans to grow up. Our cops do not need to be armed. Their authority should come from their ability to communicate and from our respect for them and our laws, not from the barrel of a gun.

  • Jeannie

    For some reason he did not pull over? Duh probably because he is deaf. How horrible and unreal.

  • Peter Combs

    what the hell is going with cops pulling guns of folks who are UNARMED and then firing a lethal round? If nobody’s life is in immanent danger, cops are not suppose to be aiming pistols as people…Is the NEW standard “oh, well he didn’t stop for me, so I killed him”…

  • Paschn

    Still, the kosher media screeches “hero cops!!” ad nauseum. Could it be they fear an awakening of the comatose resulting in cancelling those lucrative contracts created/gifted to Israel by dual citizen Chertoff to train our cops , thus causing the stock to plummet?? HORRORS!!
    What a frightening concept! Putting your OWN to work rather than those in a foreign nation!

  • theoneandonlyridor

    Matt Agorist, nice article. But do not ever call Deaf people “deaf and mute”. That is offensive term to begin with. I happen to know Daniel Harris’ brother through the same fraternity, great guy and Daniel was part of a Facebook group called Deaf Thought Police which I run – Daniel has mental illness but in general, he was incapable of violence to a point where people would fear for their lives. That cop was lying. That cop escalated, they were trained to de-escalate but no they escalated.

    • ghost

      Not all deaf people are mute so its kind of important information. My friend is legally deaf but she can talk and communicate without sign language, making her just deaf not deaf and mute. There is a difference

  • Tracey Whetstone

    My question is…why was Daniel’s past run-ins with the law was even mentioned in this story. He was deaf and could not communicate with the officer. I’m pretty sure that the officer noticed something was not right. So tired of these police officers shooting first and asking questions later. Something’s got to give!! Rest in Peace Daniel.

  • Terry Thompson

    Another hero cop for conservatives to defend and a victim for them to vilify

  • Rawr

    ‘Murica

  • papabear101

    The question that I have is, Do the dispatchers know that the young man was deaf and if they did, did they tell the police officer?
    I think that it would be a good idea that if a car is used by a person who is disabled, it would be noted on the veh record.

    • ghost

      No dispatchers were involved, the officer tried to pull him over.

  • Lisa Ganser

    Matt Algorist writes articles outside the kkkkop narrative, which is good. Thank you Matt Algorist. You are doing good work.

    Without much effort, though, you could do better.

    You never put the name of the person the poLice kill in the title of your articles. Why is that? That bothers me. It’s the most easy thing you can do to humanize the human person that you are writing about. You never do it. The person has a name, SAY THEIR NAME.

    Also “mute” is ableist. Knock that shit off right now. You need some anti-ableism 101 please find that training. Or consult a Deaf person before you write about a Deaf person. That can’t be too hard. Thanks.

    • J-dawg

      So what word did the deaf community invent to replace the word “mute,” which it declared unacceptable even though hearing people don’t assign the derogatory meaning to it that the deaf community has placed on it? Or are we hearers just forbidden from talking about a deaf person’s ability or willingness to speak in any way?

  • What do you expect in a field where psychopathy is a job requirement? The in addition to being government extortionists who are QUOTA DRIVEN to take all we have left. . .

  • Reno Berkeley

    As a person with hearing loss, it is considered an insult to refer to a deaf person as a “mute.” Just call them Deaf. That’s it. Deaf-mute is an antiquated term that no one should be using in 2016.

    • J-dawg

      So they should just leave out the part where the guy also couldn’t communicate verbally? Even though that doesn’t necessarily follow from being deaf?

  • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

    So when does speeding deserve the death penalty? Try tie cop, and fry his ass.

  • LateNigga

    I’m glad they killed this retarded fuck. Don’t run from the cops idiot.

    • Justsomeguy151

      Surprised you could pull yourself away from that pig’s dick long enough to type anything, POS.

  • sanduchi

    This never should have happened. Where is the training for these law enforcement these days?? This did not happen years ago. Police were very different then. So many in law enforcement are just on this side of the law today. Who the heck are picking these poor excuses doe human beings that feel the need to kill a handicapped person like this. Of course with all the violence today someone like this would run home to some perceived safety.

  • Donnetta Williams

    Is this ish real? Man! Nothing will happen. This is now normal behavior for them. They’ll write it off as a mishap and that’ll be all folks.

  • Chad Boswell

    The US really needs to re-evaluate police training. This is getting ridiculous.

  • James McGahan Vss

    fucker should be jailed,the cop that is

  • Victor Rosez

    nothing new… this are not individual cases … this is a deeply rooted USA mentality (among police and… and…)

    … beside that: … the publicity add’s on this site are very disturbing!
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  • Eric Bryce

    I remember a few years ago a deaf man was killed when a cop told him to drop his weapon and he didn’t comply. He was carrying a garden rake. The cop gave the old “I feared for the lives of my fellow officers excuse” although they were all standing behind him also with guns drawn aimed at man with a rake.

  • roro

    If someone is SO terrified of being killed that they are shooting everyone they pull over. see my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv_vYhYoNWA

  • Charlie Legge

    fresh kill for The cool cop or what.maaaaaaaannnnn I tell ya!’. bad leaders.in Canada same thing can happen.

  • Clive

    We’ll be told that it was just a mistake, that the officer “feels just terrible” about it, and that he’s a good cop who is a benefit to the community. There will be no apology to the family nor will it be mentioned that they are grieving the unjustified killing. Their suffering will take a back seat to this “poor hero” who will be given a promotion, a commendation, a raise, and tossed salads from every police apologist in the nation. Yeah, the family’s going to win this civil suit but that doesn’t bring their loved one back. It’s time to stop this BS rationalization of bad employees being in every field. If you’re a bad worker, a negligent worker, or an abusive worker in just about any other field, YOU GET FIRED! When you’re a cop and your actions directly lead to a citizen dying, you get a vacation and told “ah, poor guy.”

  • Andy Teal

    First, any prior arrests he may have had are irrelevant here. Second, with that in mind, why would you assume the resisting charge was because he was deaf? You can’t just make stuff up and assert its importance, and there’s no need to.

  • marieka

    He did not stop for the police,and “both cars were damaged”. This is very sad but some facts seem to be missing.

    • J-dawg

      It does seem strange. Did the cop ram him because he wasn’t stopping and cause him to panic?

  • Null Op

    Obviously this officer in not competent to be a member of any police force. He should be investigated and retired, without benefits, at the very least.

  • Rilian Lunsford

    the cop should definitely be fired.

    • PJ London

      No, he should be charged with homicide and jailed.

      • Rilian Lunsford

        He shouldn’t be fired?

  • VeesaLee

    Enough with the deference towards these effing violent nutjobs. When I’m out with my kids and see a cop anywhere, I say to them, “Don’t ever go near a police without an adult around to protect you. Those are the bad guys.”

    And I make sure I say it loud enough for the cop to hear. The monsters who become cops thrive on feeling like the “good guys.” Stop the charade. Call them what they are.

    • michael

      you are so full of shit

  • Dabitz

    Mandatory steroid testing at least 3/year for all LEO.

  • Broc Lauderdale

    Why do black people always say “Axed” instead of “Asked”? Just sayn

  • imokyrok

    US death squads strike again.

  • Treesecup818

    This is some bull shit! This police officer needs to be charged in this case!

    • Kian O’Floinn

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  • Mark Gruber

    Where do they find these fucking morons that call themselves police officers that are so afraid of their own shadow and they’ll shoot a deaf mute man In Cold Blood my god do we have any fucking common sense left in this country whoever this cop was needs his ass hung out to dry and his police chief as well as his Department that he works with I don’t care how you slice it dice it or mix it it’s still straight-up murder cold blooded murder

    • anna miller

      That is a good question Mark. I think this is the result of growing up watching violent movies, violent video games, and perhaps living in a broken home with no father present. Also many of these men served in the horrendously violent ongoing, wars in the Middle East. I am curious about the current psychologica testing that occurs before a candidate is allowed into the police academies. We sure have made a wrong turn from the days of Mayberry, that’s for damn sure.

  • East Clintwood

    It’s OK to shoot unarmed people for traffic violations?

    • agio

      Seems that it’s ok for cops to shoot anyone for any reason nowadays.

  • magormissabib

    Crying shame.

  • jon

    I’m agoraphobic, and there are lot of very good reasons why the sight of multiple cops at the same time always triggers panic attacks for me. Given how cops treat mentally ill people, absolute 0 reason exists to doubt the fact that I would be gunned down if a cop was ever around while I was having an attack that got beyond my ability to control.

  • Evan

    So, the cop’s on vacation until the police decide signing is an imminent threat and absolve him of murdering an unarmed man. The American reality of policing in the US.

  • Melilew

    “In the land of the free, a __________ suspected of ______ too fast can be killed in cold blood.” At this point, just fill in the blanks and it’s happened…

  • GihadJoe

    I’m curious to know the racial & gender statistics of police officers more likely to discharge their firearm during an encounter.

    Like are white male officers more likely to use the gun as a weapon of 1st resort, vs a female or minority officer?

  • Jimtaryon

    Just minding his own business walking home from church.

  • John Chabak

    Maybe if they put this shitbum cop behind bars for 50 years or better yet give him the needle cops might take notice that murder is illegal whether you are the President or a cop.

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  • Gina Swanigan

    Very sad but is it even legal for deaf people to drive? Seems hazardous…

  • Ziggy Kelleher

    Vid on the 2 deaf non witnesses in Nice that got media coverage.

    NICE’s UnHeard Witnesses,a Mormon, A Balless Bull,E. Drattell & The Actual Carnage.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnA8oigUO0

  • Ibcamn

    and we all know the murderer of the deaf man will walk,like always……cops are criminals,period,the cop must have needed a fix[a kill] in order to continue about his day….to not recognize sign language,this cop must live under a rock….this cop was just pissed that he didn’t hear him and stop,so he killed the man and is now pleading he didn’t know….like i said,under a rock…or just a murderer,take your pick……

    • michael

      you are so full of shit

      • Ibcamn

        well….did i hit a nerve here or what,hahahahahahaha,all,every,cop is a criminal….they commit crimes against people every day,and they know it and love it,they will falsely accuse with a snicker on their face,the will rape young women to get out of a ticket,they will kill you if they don’t like you,and they all lie in court to convict innocent people to pad their little tally books for promotions and raises,they will ruin lives and families to benefit themselves and lie to get what they want….you into a prison,even when they know you are innocent.all cops are criminals,every last one.

  • Street Detective

    there’s more to it than this stoopid article and you mooks below seem to think. how were the cars damaged? just because the guy is deaf does NOT make him a saint.

    • I agree, I want to know why the cars were damaged. If this was a simple “follow me home” thing then how’d they’d both get damaged? That’s what we should find out.

  • Rick

    The lying loser that wrote this article has NO idea what happened. The chase went on for several miles and the suspect rammed the patrol car several times and didn’t try to communicate with the trooper, but tried to fight the trooper. The trooper had minor injuries from the confrontation. Just because the man was deaf doesn’t mean he can’t break the law.

    • J-dawg

      How did a guy ram a cop car from the front?

  • AppalachianMatt

    Cops are the low hanging fruit in this ordeal. When will anyone address the people who write laws that cops must enforce? We complain about the Police state yet we blindly re-elect the same yahoos that created the laws in the first place without a second thought.

  • J-dawg

    It’s so sad how many apologists are out there trying to justify this shooting. “He shouldn’t have tried to run from the cops!” “He shouldn’t have been breaking the law!” He should have done this, he should have done that, he deserved to die because cops are gods and everyone else is scum. We just have to remember that they’re the good guys, and every single one of us is just waiting to murder them and must be treated as such. Because freedom is only for people who KNOW they’d NEVER have any reason to encounter a law enforcement officer that MIGHT perceive them as a threat – not thugs or dummies who can’t follow directions.

  • nope

    This is so tragic and heartbreaking for the Deaf and HoH community.

    In addition Is “Deaf, Mute” the correct term for his identification? I’ve heard in passing that “Deaf-Mute” is considered offensive in the Deaf and HoH communities because it carries an assumption that Deaf and HoH people must verbally speak or are considered non-communicative.

  • ben dover

    How are all my fellow citizens liking how the cops treat us. Cops need to be held accountable. And pigs unions needs to be gone. And all new hires need to be hired based on their passion of wanting to help in stead of hinder.

    • Emma

      When are the bad guys going to stop killing others, including cops?

      • justinhere

        You are comparing apples to oranges. Stop using a strawman’s argument to excuse away the continued killing of unarmed citizens by the police.

        Police, as part of their jobs, understand the inherent risk they take by choosing to become police officers. If they can’t handle the stress of doing their jobs without shooting and killing unarmed men and women then they need to find a new career. No one should have to pay with their lives because the police officer in question is “afraid” merely because someone is waving their hands in the air or not immediately following their commands. If there is no visible weapon and there is no imminent danger, they do not have the right to use deadly force. PERIOD.

        • Emma

          Indeed, danger is an inherent. part of the job, but it is also a seriously inherent part of being a criminal.
          Everyone is afraid of everyone else now.
          Good and bad.
          To kill an unarmed person,
          (not even necessarily a gun)
          is absolutely wrong.
          In order to understand an issue, one has to be able to see & understand every aspect of said issue.

      • ben dover

        Big big difference ! Pigs take an oath to do the right thing. Crooks do not. Cant stand the heat pigs move along.

        • Emma

          Hmmm.
          So that makes it okay huh?
          Well, you get what your hand calls for then don’t you?
          I’m not for or against, but each case on it’s own merits.
          Wait for the facts. Then make an intelligent, informed decision.
          Common sense.

          • Real Dude82

            You’re such a stupid b!tch

  • justinhere

    When is this going to end? When will the police start being held accountable for using deadly force when no deadly force is warranted? We see this time and time again yet nothing changes? In fact, it seems to be getting worse.

    In Florida just last month an unarmed black man was shot as he lay on the ground with his hands in the air calmly speaking to the police and telling them that the young man sitting near him was autistic and had a toy truck not a weapon. Now, here is a story of an unarmed deaf man shot and killed by police while he tried to communicate through sign language.

    People will say there is more to the story than just a simple traffic stop. They will speculate that Mr. Harris must have done something to warrant the shooting but the reality is, he was UNARMED and that is the only reality that matters.

    We, as citizens need to start demanding answers and demanding change. This will never stop until we make it stop. We need to do this as if our lives depend on it, because they do.

  • Vivid

    I’m not condoning this, it’s a sad story. But part of me wonders if the cop reacted so intensely because of the BLM. They’ve been pulling stunts and ambushing/killing cops, I believe this sort of thing will get worse because cops will be on edge. You can rant about it being a chosen risk and profession all you want but people don’t become cops to die, they do it to help. No one wants to die and they’re just human beings, knowing there’s a group that society and the media is supporting that’s actively killing cops has put law enforcement in a really messed up situation, one which results in panic and shooting instead of waiting to be shot. This is a sad tragedy, but I also think it should make us look at what we as citizens are doing to support the police to show them they’re not alone and they aren’t born just to die.

    • PJ London

      Yep, so scared of BLM he shoots a white guy.

  • Ismael

    A good cop is a rat. And cops don’t like cops that are rats.

  • Doug

    You fucking cops need to be all retrained. Idiots

  • Mark Gruber

    The police are nothing more than Revenue enforcement for cities and town government . it’s not about safety, it’s about collecting money and that’s 99% of what the police do. They collect money by threat of force or being arrested. Everytime I see Serve and Protect with Integrity on side of a police car in McKinney Texas I want to vomit on my shoes especially when I know a piece of shit like Sergeant Robles works for the police department and is as corrupt as they come.

  • Sam

    RIP man..

  • ApexOversteer

    Know who is still alive? The deaf dudes not running from police, that’s who.

    Run from the cops, consequences follow, and they are not going to be pleasant. Take them on a drama filled chase where both vehicles are damaged and those consequences are going to be severe. You’ve changed the nature of the incident at that point. Now the officer MUST assume you are armed and dangerous.

    I don’t care if he’s deaf, or was thinking of he got home someone could translate for him. He ran, and kept running. If he had stopped when he was supposed to, he’d probably be alive right now.

    • Fifty Ville

      If the guy got a driver’s license, surely the DMV went to extremes because of his disability to make sure he understood the law that drivers must abide by. That mean pulling over when a cop stops you, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

    • Real Dude82

      Suck some more pig d!ck you fu king loser

  • John Foytek

    Sue the fucker!!!

  • Aaron Hoberman

    #bluelivesmurder #bluelivesmurder #bluelivesmurder #bluelivesmurder #bluelivesmurder #bluelivesmurder #bluelivesmurder #bluelivesmurder #bluelivesmurder #bluelivesmurder #bluelivesmurder

  • Peter Hasbrough

    Just a dead white guy, nothing to see, move on. I’ll bet that Obama won’t call the family, nor will Sharpton or Jackson show up to criticize police tactics.

  • Fifty Ville

    “They should’ve deescalated and been trained to realize that this is an entirely different situation, you’re pulling someone over who is deaf, they are handicapped,” said
    Barringer.

    How does a cop know the perp is deaf at the time he’s speeding and he refuses to pull over?

  • Jim Simolari

    cops dont discriminate if your a baby 2yrs old or a elder 102 yrs oid deaf blind dog or cat they all will die its funny every single cop fears for their but they have all the weapons and training the peoples life is more inportant then a cops any day thats their job if they dont like it get a different job

  • Abdullah

    Can we for a second apply a reasonable person standard ? Would a reasonable person continue to evade a cop ramming and pursuing him for 6 miles ? Would a reasonable person fear for his life if the motorist he was attempting to apprehend suddenly exits his vehicle and approaches ? I well understand the deaf culture people talk with their hands, but the poor guy was both found competent to drive and had to have had some common sense to know how to respond to a routine stop. Where the hell does the article author get off on surmising that this was a murder in cold blood ?

  • Janelle

    Unless the investigation turns up that this officer was in actual physical danger for his life it doesn’t matter to me why the guy didn’t stop. Just because he is deaf doesn’t mean he isn’t a criminal, and just because he is a criminal doesn’t mean he deserves to die.

  • LaDon Aridge

    Waving his arms like that, who knows what he could have been reaching for. Punk thug, glad that officer is safe. It’s a tough job.

  • n10dkf

    Was the filthy worthless pig tested for alcohol and drugs (anabolic steroids) roid rage after murdering Mr Harris?

  • Byron Lord

    Can our tax dollars stoop any lower???? You shoot one man reaching for his ID (AFTER YOU ASK FOR IT)… , you shoot another man (hands up in the air) trying to care for his patient playing with a fucking TOY TRUCK, you shoot a baby in a park playing withe a toy gun, AND now a deaf man…… Is ANY fucking citizen SAFE from this shoot 1st because we’re to pussy to do anything else BULLSHIT??? OVER 700 PEOPLE THIS YR…. have died to police …… Most civilized countries don’t have 1/10 that number.. Police are murdering thugs with badges now….. I’m so fucking ashamed to be American

  • DJ.WACK

    They need to really overhaul the police academy – too many amateurs with badges trigger happy.

    Clowns need to join the circus not the force.

    So sad for the man and his family!

  • Song.

    It’s really bad. State trooper gonna shoot you someday. your civilian take dead every day from your protector. its also another terror. i’m pretty sure about the trooper’s think kills easy, the life is cheap. and also the trooper gonna say it. if i kill someone, that’s ok. i made it up the situation. Think Civilian. Think for your life. Think your tomorrow.

  • Jim_Jasion

    Remind me NEVER to travel to North Carolina again.

    Outer Banks, I was going to take a vacation next summer down by you. Oh well.

  • Oliver Stammer

    If a State Trooper fears deaf language, he should start a new career in a bakery, or something in that direction. That’s not that dangerous.

  • Thanks, Matt. Police State America. Watch the Police State Apologists bend over backwards for this one.

    • Joslyn Thomas

      Well ya, but that’s only because awareness about police shootings is going up. If it weren’t for camera phones and social media the number would still be on the rise.

  • Linda Tolbert

    All of these headline should end with “And Will Get Away With It”

  • antiparasites

    where’s the number of “police officers” who have done tours to afghanistan, iraq and other places the US has torn apart in the name of “war on terror”?

  • Paul Mendoza

    Cops call in the license plate of any car they are chasing or pulling over. That is why many times you sit in your car waiting for the cop to get feed back from the police computer in the squad car. This cop didn’t enter the plate and did not follow training procedure.

  • medusa7ful .

    This an outrage. He was not a blackman nor a black woman. Yet they still dig up a reason why they shot that young man like that!!! No justice no peace!!

  • Walter Johnson

    Simple. Don’t run from the police. The idiot mute could of killed someone. Also, don’t get out of the car. Sorry to say, but he had it coming

    • Real Dude82

      When your mother gets raped I will say the same thing about that dumb b!tch….SHE HAD IT COMING

  • The Big Ragu

    #deaflivesmatter

  • Eyam TheZombie

    Yeah. Let’s all blame the cop instead of the fool who ran from the police. Surely, he was innocent.

  • Sockpuppet2012

    Why was he driving a car? ….. you can’t get a driver’s license if you’re deaf.
    A deaf person driving a car is a public menace.
    One less idiot in the world ….. yay for the cop!

  • Duane Weimerskirch

    unjustified at any level ..kill the cop..the cop denied this guy due process therefore the cops involved should suffer the same fate.

  • Deanna Schultz

    I posted this story last week. My issue is, there is a slant to this version of events. He DID NOT just DRIVE HOME for unknown reason. He gave a HIGH SPEED CHASE that ruined his car and the police car. It was not like he went a block away because he was afraid. He ran WITH THE INTENTION of running from the police.

    They had no way of knowing he was deaf. Now, we do not know yet what happened after the cars crashed. That is being investigated. Yes, police need MORE TRAINING when dealing with Deaf/H.H. drivers ! There have been terrible cases that are just WRONG. I am not sure this is one of those cases. Being afraid of police does not give you the right not to obey the laws when driving.

    Truth is, if he had cooperated when he saw the lights, he would probably be alive today! Marlee Matlin made a series of great videos for police and for drivers.

    Many of these stories popping up are not showing the full picture. They are not saying that he saw the lights and there was a 7 MILE chase. They left out that it ended with both vehicles being crashed. The shooting took place after the crash. We have no idea what happened when he and the officer got out of the cars. It was put down as an “altercation” by the officer. We don’t know yet what that means.

    These articles are making it sound like he was shot for using ASL. The more detail I see, the less I believe that. It sounds more like someone that made a wrong choice, whether he panicked or didn’t understand what was going on, we don’t know.

    Still, if you are on the road, deaf or not, you pull over when those lights are in your mirror.

    Not only did he flee, but there was a car crash. No One is saying that part. I am not sure what the “altercation” with the officer may have been. Did the officer get angry and go too far? Did he fight the officer? We don’t know! I am not one to jump to conclusions without facts. The original article I saw last week had much more detail. The ones popping up now are to get people worked up and are generally one-sided.

    This article (and others now popping up) makes it sound like he was shot for being deaf and using ASL. That is so far from the issue.

  • The guy was in trouble with the law a lot. He went home where he felt safest; unfortunately he got out of his car waving his hands….the end.

  • Joslyn Thomas
  • Jim Van Alstine

    Trigger happy cop should be fired NOW.

  • boxofvapor

    First I would like to tell the family that I am sorry they lost a loved one. It’s tragic and no matter who was at fault it will always be a tragedy when someone loses their life this way.

    Now for my advice and this goes for everyone.

    Don’t run from cops, it can get you killed. If you do run from cops and eventually you stop or are stopped by a collision get out and get on the ground or at least keep your hands in the air. Preferably on the ground with your hands behind your head, that would be the smartest thing you can do at that point.

    That dude has a gun and his adrenalin is now flowing like crazy, so get on the ground for your own safety. If you think you can stay in the car (it’s not on fire, etc), put your hands out of the window and in the air. Keep your mouth shut as well, nothing you say is going to help and in fact it could be used against you. So get on the ground and shut up.

    Should the cop have shot? I don’t know because I wasn’t there and there is not enough confirmed evidence to say at this point. The violent nature of the chase itself is going to be a big factor in determining if he should have or not. You can’t pretend it didn’t happen and act as if he had Just been pulled over for a ticket. There was a car chase, apparently including multiple collisions and that is going to matter. The fact that he was unarmed matters as well, it matters a lot.

    Hopefully there is a dash cam because that could show if the driver made any moves after getting out that could have been perceived as threatening or if he was not threatening at all.

  • K Sean Proudler

    Nothing new about cops killing deaf and/or mute folk. If you don’t respond to there verbal commands, or answer their questions to the verbal letter, YOU… ARE… DEAD, or at least that’s what some cops think is the best place for you.

    The point being, if you were to follow current police policy, and you set the stage where all deaf and/or mute folk were placed in the immediate vicinity of police, something tells me a lot of them would end up dead.

    Now do you think a cop would volunteer, for training purposes, to have his ears plugged, and his vocal cord temporarily disabled, and be thrown into real life situations where the odds are high that they will encounter real cops?

  • Abresh Arquah

    Unjustified shooting and the police officer in question should be railed over this. In fact he should be summarily dismissed. While I personally do not know sign language, I know what it looks like and if an officer would not shoot someone who was using sign language.

  • Larry Vos

    I mean if you’re gonna shoot a deaf man at least do it through the ears. It’s not like he’s using those.

  • Donovan Nin

    Police are trained to be irrationally fearful and inherently violent. Police have been trained to be cowards.

  • fellowwarrior

    Fake. Crisis actors gonna crisis act. And they’re so sloppy nowadays.

  • guest

    He’s a thug with a criminal history. World doesn’t miss him.