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Austin, TX — Instead of going out and solving robberies, rapes, murders, domestic disputes, or thefts, the Austin police department is doing something that doesn’t benefit society in any manner whatsoever. They are going undercover in city buses to catch people who don’t have their seat belt on.

This week, Austin cops took to city buses to peer through the windows at unsuspecting criminals — who’d dare drive their own vehicle without their own seat belt on.

When the cop on the bus spots the dangerous criminal driver who may have simply forgotten to buckle up, he signals the hero officer out on the road to pull them over and extort money from them. Why is the Austin police department doing this, you ask?

“To try and make people aware of the dangers of driving without a seat belt,” APD Officer Mike Barger said.

However, the dangers of driving without a seat belt are well known. Cops do not have to rob people of their hard earned money to hammer that point home. The real reason the APD is conducting this program is the reason police departments exist in the first place — revenue collection.

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Nothing exposes the revenue collecting nature of the state quite like police officers pulling over citizens and issuing them fines for not wearing their seat belts.

Seat belt ‘laws’ exhibit the tyrannical nature of government and illustrate the lengths to which the state will go to separate the citizen from their wealth.

It takes a person incapable of questioning morality versus legality to approach otherwise entirely innocent individuals and target them for extortion via fines issued for failure to comply with arbitrary decrees for victimless ‘crimes.’

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To think that society needs to be extorted by armed agents of the state to protect them from themselves is as asinine as it is tyrannical. If you personally feel that you need a police officer to steal your money and threaten you with jail because you aren’t wearing your seat belt — you are part of the problem.

Sadly, municipalities across the country are so addicted to the extortion of citizens for victimless crimes that they are unable to see the immoral nature of robbing people for not wearing their seat belts.

The Texas Department of Transportation even gave Austin police $79,000 in taxpayer money to fund the start-up of this tyrannical operation — “Click it or Ticket.”

“The dangers of being injured in a crash at low speeds are significantly increased by not wearing a seat belt,” Barger said, again attempting to justify robbery to ‘keep people safe.’

CBS Austin interviewed Sgt. David McDonald, who was also riding on buses extorting people for seat belts. McDonald attempted to justify the robbery of citizens for not wearing seat belts by using his wife as an example — who he says took off her seat belt briefly and then got into an accident.

“Someone ran a red light and she got ejected out of our vehicle because she wasn’t wearing a seat belt,” McDonald said. “Finding my own wife in the street bleeding profusely, I can’t get those images out of my head.”

No one is going to deny that finding your wife bleeding in the road is a horrifying experience that no one should go through. That being said, the analogy is little more than a straw man. Short of placing a cop inside every vehicle, the state will never be able to guarantee that every citizen wears their seat belt.

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If seat belt fines couldn’t stop a cop’s wife from buckling up, how on earth can this officer justify robbing people to make them buckle up? The bottom line is that people don’t refuse to buckle up because they are intent on breaking the law. They don’t need to be treated as criminals and, they most assuredly do not need to be robbed.

People wear their seat belts because it is safe. Those who deliberately refuse to wear their seat belts — knowing the potential repercussions — deserve the right to make that foolish choice as this decision has NO VICTIM and harms no one but the person making it.

On the law enforcement side, however, stealing money from innocent people for accidentally forgetting to buckle up, absolutely creates a victim. And, being that victims can’t exist without someone making them so, it also creates a criminal.

Ironically enough, the Austin cop in the image at the top of this page, not only doesn’t have his seat belt on — as he robs people for not wearing their seat belts — but he’s standing up. Hypocrisy at its finest.

The good news is that the public is no longer buying it. When CBS posted this article on their Facebook page, the comments said it all.

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Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world. Agorist is also the Editor at Large at the Free Thought Project. Follow @MattAgorist on Twitter, Steemit, and now on Facebook.
  • LotharLocnar

    What’s the insurance companies benefit/loss if the driver isn’t wearing a seat belt? Follow the money.

    • Zackknowitall

      Non bc the cops don’t report seat belt violations.

  • Damiana

    It’s perfectly legal in the state of Texas to ride a motorcycle with no helmet – which rather disproves their story that it’s all about “citizen safety.”

    • Guy

      WTH Cat ! I thought it was National Law for motorcycle riders & helmets !? Which makes sense to me, just like seatbelt laws do to. Otherwise a lot of people wouln’t wear em, seatbelts or helmets if they had the choice to or not.

      I am just coming from the perspective of seeing what happens when they don’t, being not fun to help with scraping em up off the pavement, after they go through the windshield at 50mph ! Now ? I think it’s just most times automatic that they do, after years of getting the message. *Click it or Ticket* It’s cheap insurance !

      But the clowns in Austin are a bit over the top in everything they do anyway, so no big surprise about this one. It’s all about double standards of “Don’t do as I do ! Do as I say to do !”

      • Damiana
        • Guy

          It sure is a hodge podge of different laws both for helmet and safety belts and different in a lot of states if child is under certain height or age depending if in front or back seat ! Damn ! Leave it to them to screw with it, rather universal that just covers everybody everywhere , no matter age or size !

          • Amor Terra

            Or maybe, leave people the hell alone unless their conduct hurts someone ELSE.

          • Guy

            Not a very good idea. Then folks would just be bumping into each other all willy nilly even more than what they do now ! Plus your insurance would probably go through the roof, to pay for the other useless idiots that just don’t give a good damn !

          • Amor Terra

            How in the hell would not wearing a seat belt make people “bump into” someone? And insurance could easily exclude medical payments caused by not wearing a seat belt. Laws that criminalize hurting yourself are ridiculous.

          • Guy

            Oh Really ! Well why don’t they just remove the Safeties off of all guns
            then !
            Would be interesting to watch as most people would shoot themselves in the head from looking down the barrel of their gun, while it was loaded. Or in their own foot !

            Some are a little absurd I’ll grant you, but others are about safety, because people are idiots. As the example;There is a reason for a main motor kill switch harness between operator and ignition, on a Bass Boat. At 75mph you get thrown overboard, safety switch kills main motor, so boat dosen’t come back and run your silly ass over !

          • Amor Terra

            Odd how you didn’t answer my question: How would not wearing a seatbelt cause you to bump into someone else? And note the differences between your two examples and the seatbelt law. A safety on a gun may protect the user of the gun, but not ONLY the user of the gun. The kill switch on a boat motor (or a lawnmower) may protect the user, but not ONLY the user. And, more importantly, if you were to disable those safety devices, the state doesn’t prosecute you, as it does with seatbelts. The correspondence of these two examples isn’t people being force to USE seatbelts, but with manufacturers being required to put seatbelts in the car. Learn how to use logic so you don’t keep making a complete fool of yourself with false comparisons.

            And finally, I’m of the belief that grown adult people are entitled to be stupid, if they wish, without the interference of the government. As an example, witness the folks in the grocery store, morbidly obese, riding their mobility scooters up and down the aisles stocking their basket with sugary, chemical-filled crap, sodas, alcohol, and everything except what they need to be well. Should we throw them all in jail to protect them all from their own stupidity?

          • Guy

            Whatever you say bozo ! You must like going off the deep end just to hear yourself speak profound logic, even when you fart !

            There is reason and purpose in some of the safety laws, most folks know that, just like it is stupid to save leftover ant killer in a coke bottle and set it on a garage shelf, so kid can drink it ! Or maybe you think tamper proof / child safety tops on aspern bottles are a lousy idea. as the result of the Governments interfering with all of our lives ! That is untill your child dies or has there stomach pumped out from swallowing too much aspirin. Then who ya going to sue !

            Until mandatory government safety belt laws were in place, people were thrown through the front windshields pretty regular, in spite of seat belts being in their cars, just that folks did’t bother with em, untill it cost em money and a ticket ! Now ! Most folks think you’re dumb as grass if you don’t hook em up !

            Sometimes in spite of ourselves, the government needs to step in and save our stupid souls, because we just don’t get it, and this happens to be one of em.

            I can live with it ! You on the other hand can play the martyr and set the example for the rest of the *Free Thinkers Out There* Good luck and don’t blow yourself up !

          • Amor Terra

            Still can’t answer that very simple question, huh?

            As for the rest, the government doesn’t need to, nor have any right to, save us from ourselves. The government exists to adjust rights BETWEEN individuals, not to dictate that people do what’s good for them. And again, laws that say that there have to be tamper-proof lids, or that there must be labels detailing the ingredients of a food, or there have to be seatbelts, are entirely different than laws that tell you that you must use aspirin, or that you must eat that labeled food, or that you must use a seatbelt. But I guess those distinctions are a little too intellectual for someone like you. And that you think that someone can approach an issue with logic, instead of hysterics and emotion is a “free thinker” tells me a lot about you–namely that you spend most of your time emoting and very little of it thinking.

            And, just for the record, you might want to learn to write without multiple exclamation points per paragraph. It makes it look like everything you say was written by a 12-year-old girl.

          • Guy

            Then because I must be emotional and a 12 yr old femail. Don’t bother
            to read it. Just because I made a half ass reply in your estimation.

            I don’t need a government mandate to tell me when to eat, shit or fart. Some others do, just like they need to be told when to get up, or when to go to bed. If that is not your cup of tea, good for you and your intelectual types of truth seekers ! (opps, sorry I exclaimed when I should not have, my bad)

            Just to make one small point though. You might want to spread your word around the million plus men and women who serve in our Military, not including the many more who serve in public office and services. That, they are all fucked up…….! Have a nice day.

          • Amor Terra

            Oh, I explain to them regularly why they’re being grossly used to make rich people richer. Most of them know it–they just don’t have the fortitude to change their own lives with the knowledge.

          • Guy

            Good deal ! Sure they are all really interested. Since you are the non conformist type. Next time you come to a red light or stop sign telling you to stop. Don’t. Perhaps the pd will be interested too.

          • Amor Terra

            Some of them are. Some are not. But truth is sometimes inconvenient, and their response is not my concern. Giving them the information so they can’t later say they “had no idea” is.

            And I agree with laws that *rationally* restrict behavior to keep people from hurting other people–that’s what law and government is for. So I stop at stop signs, both because it’s the law and because I’d rather not have my car wrecked when I pull out in front of someone. And once again, you have totally missed the distinction.

          • Guy

            I usually do Amor…..and love to poke the bear, most times in fun just to see the interesting colors that people change into, and sometimes as serious as a heart attack. But never so silly, that I can only be so stuck on my opinion that makes me convinced, I always have to be right.

            I’ll leave that to the one liner jerks that fly through here, farting garbage.

          • Amor Terra

            I think you just admitted to being a troll. That’s good, because if you actually were as obtuse as you have acted in some of our conversations, I’d be concerned that you might forget to breathe.

          • Guy

            Believe what you want I guess ! There are others here that don’t.
            To be called a “troll” or “obtuse” because I have an opinion, not afraid to voice it and not afraid to be taken to task over it in order to defend it, or if need be to concede it to others that it maybe wrong. I suppose is just your way of taking a cheap parting shot ! Have fun, but I think you really need to lighten up a bit, befor you break something. I understand golf is a good stress reliever.

          • Amor Terra

            You were “taken to task” because you either refuse to, or can’t, follow logical argument or identify factual similarity/distinction. And you were called a “troll” because you said you “love to poke the bear.” Not for your argument, or more accurately, your feelings.

          • Guy

            Okay. You win ! My ! But you’re smart ! Especially about hitting folks over the head with your inflatable logic, but it might get a little lonely at the top. Basketball Is a Good Game Too.

          • Amor Terra

            Maybe instead of falsely conceding, you should try actually understanding.

          • Guy

            What the hell is the point in doing that !? No matter if I did or didn’t as you say “understand.” It would only serve to provoke more of the same type of responses from YOU ! Which is cold, hard and too damn logically calculatingly difficult, to remotely have any type enjoyment at all !

            No way lady ! If I want to get my ass kicked, there are a lot more new and exciting ways that I can do that, like playing on a friggin freeway !

            As the fox said ” It Is Only With The Heart That One Can See Rightly ! What Is Essential Is Invisible To The Eye !” Now that ! I do understand…….While the rest. Is just superficial BS, not worth my time.

          • Amor Terra

            Sorry that logic is too difficult for you to follow. But law has to be based in logic–what will follow from a certain ruling and what is the next logical position that will arise from that position–or else it’s simply, as they say in the law, “arbitrary and capricious.” Perhaps you should stick to opining on tv shows and celebrity gossip, where illogic doesn’t wind people up with their lives ruined due to fines or being jailed for doing nothing but deciding to take a risk on themselves, as we all do every day when we drive a car or decide how far to reach out from a ladder as we paint a wall, or whether the slope of our yard is safe for the lawnmower.

          • Guy

            I watch very little T.V. because it is boring and not to my taste in culture. So have no reason or need to comment on any of it. Same for Celebrities as you call them, seldom going to movies for the same reasons as not watching t.v.

            As a retired person. I spend most of my time either reading, gardening, traveling or here at home involved with my hobbies or community involvement. As well in San Francisco and having a small business operation in the growing of Organic Farmers Market Produce.

            As to being logical. That has not been a issue either, preferring to spend my time studying and viewing the works of some of the World’s Great Masters In Art, Literature and Music. Like Picasso, Rembrandt, Mauna, Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Bach,Chopin and even the classic sounds of 50’s & 60’s Rock & Roll.

            As to the law ? You are right about that. Because I do find it. Illogical, hard to understand, *arbitrary and capricious in all manner of its various applications, depending on the cop’s attitude at the time, and the way people are subjected to its interpretations, by thouse who are payed to enforce it. Resulting in the requirments to hire folks like you, who are payed to interoperate it, so it makes sense to the average human that become victims of it, often through no real fault of their own, except to be ensnared by the long and ponderous arm of it ! Who will always suffer the loss of, money, time, personal freedom or choice, coming from the results of being in contact with it, as it is designed by its very nature of being discriminatory, to efflict the most damage too. I have a family lawyer, who I try to have very little dealing with, except when necessary. When finished with my visit for whatever the reason, feel slightly slimy as the result !

            No Amor. I do not find the law logical, except those who make a living off of it, understand why they do, and would rather shake hands with the devel. Preferring to stare in the the eyepiece of my telescope counting the rings on Saturn, looking at a Picasso and wondering, How In The Hell Did He Do That !?, Or watching my herbs grow. That I do understand and except. The rest as you say ? Nah !

          • Ed

            Except we know seat belts can kill a child without the proper seat!

          • Guy

            true

  • Lorne Allen

    I think there is a victim when a person does not wear a seatbelt. An unbelted passenger in the back seat can fly forward in a crash and injure someone in the front, any unbelted person in the car can be ejected and cause another accident by being in the roadway, and the driver would lose control of the car if he is ejected from the driver’s seat. That being said, the only time a person should get ticketed for it is when a cop happens to see you when you are driving by or during another legitimate stop. Disgusting to waste police resources on an undercover operation for such a thing while burglaries, car thefts and shoplifting are taking place elsewhere.

    • G’ma G

      You think there is a victim based on maybe-mights that could possibly happen under certain conditions???

    • Real Truth stings

      The cops methods are scummy as usual. I stand with this law and it’s enforcement.

      • Zackknowitall

        Burn in hell bitch

        • Real Truth stings

          over seat belts? nutty stuff.

          • Zackknowitall

            You said “support the law and cops on this one”

            Do you realize that lives of the poor can be ruined over the simple act of not putting on a seat belt?

            Do you know cops have killed people over seat belt tickets? Killed people for not paying them. Killed people over warrants for seat belts.

          • Real Truth stings

            not all laws are to our personal liking. This is a law that makes sense. I do support the law and I do support the cops enforcing it. Being scumbags about it is austin’s style.

          • Zackknowitall

            Well I’m on the side of freedom. Motorcycles are way more fucking dangerous then write it in the modern day car without a seat Belt. If this law is really about safety then we need to ban cigarettes alcohol motorcycles and much much fucking more skydiving, scuba diving, rock climbing,.

          • Real Truth stings

            a safety belt is not a ban. we wear fking parachutes when we hop and helmets, idiot.

          • Zackknowitall

            None the less those things are far more dangerous than my 2017 ford pick up.

          • Amor Terra

            Legally requiring a seatbelt is a ban of driving/riding without one, isn’t it?

          • Real Truth stings

            Yes. Where is the problem here? All society’s have some common and immutable laws. Of you don’t like living in a world where you are compelled to follow rules than you will have to live in a deserted town by yourself.

          • Amor Terra

            “Immutable?” Seat belt laws? Are you so uninformed as to not know that some cars didn’t even HAVE seatbelts, much less laws requiring people to wear them, during the lifetime of middle aged people? (BTW: the plural of society is “societies.” No apostrophe for plurals)

            And how would you feel about a law telling you that you had to eat only vegetables and whole grains at every meal because that’s what’s “good for you?”

          • Amor Terra

            And sugar. And many prescription drugs. And most sports.

  • Bruce_Mitchell

    Having worked in a busy hospital ER, I can assure you there are indeed victims of not wearing seatbelts. The injuries are often horrific and extremely costly to treat. There are multiple victims, such as families that lose a breadwinner, and often the cost of treatment and rehabilitation is borne by the public.

    Seatbelt and helmet laws should be viewed as a public health issue, not a personal liberty issue. I was around long before seatbelt and helmet laws went into effect and the simple truth is these laws have greatly reduced the number of deaths and terrible injuries that used to occur regularly. That’s a fact. It is NOT a matter of only the individual being affected. It affects everyone around them and the whole of society as well.

    • G’ma G

      You are letting the few horrific cases you are exposed to in your very specialized work environment cloud your judgment. Based on your experience no one should be allowed to go outside because of the horrific things that could and do happen every day without a safety bubble around them. Freedom and liberty is not risk free. How does your experience compare to the mother who helplessly watched her baby burn in its car seat because she couldn’t get the seat belt off? How about those of us helplessly hearing our friend screaming in anguish as he was slowly crushed to death in a roll over accident on a steep mountainside, trapped in his seatbelt? How about the family whose daughter and grandchild drowned, trapped in their seatbelts, when their car went into a canal? I have many more news articles in my file exposing the danger of wearing a seatbelt. The bottom line here is that you are at risk either way so it has to be a choice.

      • Abz B Zbas

        You are letting the few horrific cases you are exposed to cloud your judgement.

        • G’ma G

          Point heard however it is not my judgment that is clouded. You are confusing judgment with freedom of choice.

        • Amor Terra

          And since G’ma was replying to someone who cited a body flying around the car hurting others as a victim (justification for a seatbelt law), how many times has that happened? What’s that about a few horrific cases?

          • Bruce_Mitchell

            How many times has that happened? A great many times, prior to the introduction of laws mandating seatbelts and child safety seats. It is a fact that when not properly restrained, people bounce all over the place inside automobiles when an accident occurs, and children become like small missiles. In the days before seatbelts, this very often caused death or serious injury. There is no denying the statistics. Seatbelts save lives.

          • Amor Terra

            No dear. The issue is how many times the body of someone not wearing a seatbelt kills someone ELSE. And I’m not talking about a single story someone tells. HOW MANY times?

      • Real Truth stings

        By your logic, we should do nothing to protect lives using dangerous equipment. I think a 2500 lb fast moving object, filled with flammable liquids is dangerous. I can’t agree with you. If drivers in formula 1 wear safety equipment and 4pt seat belts, I think I can put mine on too.

        • G’ma G

          YES. You absolutely can put yours own. Most of the time its the right choice. What part of choice are you missing? The instant we write a law compelling someone to do a thing we cross the line of slavery, or at least involuntary servitude. Restricting other people’s right to be unrestrained by a mechanical device due to someone else’s fear of what could happen is loathsome to liberty.

          • Amor Terra

            You’re trying to argue logically with someone who doesn’t understand what logic IS, much less how to use it. People in this country are so brainwashed that they think that anything that’s a “good idea” should be a law because they miss the days when their mommies and daddies told them where to stand and when to go to bed and what to eat and they want the government to do that for them–except when the government tries to tax their super-sized soda, anyway. No wonder we have the highest prison population in the world.

        • Amor Terra

          And by YOUR logic, there should be laws against, among numerous others: Junk food, TV dinners, sugar, ATVs, booze, cigarettes, gambling of any sort, football, hockey, boxing, rock climbing, skydiving, statins, opioids, boating, television, smart phones, video games, and owning a dog over 29 pounds.

      • Bruce_Mitchell

        Your first sentence is beyond absurd, alleging things you cannot possibly know. In fact, my experience of such cases is vast as well as in many aspects beyond the ER including rehabilitation, investigation and analysis, and over several decades. In other words, not a “few” cases but hundreds if not thousands. The facts are in, and have been for a very long time: seatbelts save lives. Statistics gathered both before and after the laws mandating seatbelts confirm the fact that the risks of NOT wearing seatbelts are far, FAR greater than the risk of being harmed by wearing them. Also, each of the instances you provide of someone supposedly trapped by a seatbelt could have been prevented by keeping a seatbelt cutter on hand. Society has made the decision that mandating the use of seatbelts is in the public interest and it has proven to be the right decision when it comes to saving lives.

        • G’ma G

          Society doesn’t get to “mandate” away liberties and freedom of choice. We are a Republic, not a Democracy. What is is about choice and personal responsibility that you statist types are so afraid of?

        • Amor Terra

          Can you please give a logical argument as to where “society”–meaning government–gets the authority to ban behavior that is harmful to no one except one’s self?

    • Amor Terra

      How many people come into your ER in a diabetic coma or having a heart attack or a stroke because they are obese and have heart disease, diabetes, or high blood pressure from having a lifetime of poor eating habits? Should the government therefore ban sugar, sodas, and junk foods and mandate that everyone eat kale, broccoli, and brown rice three times a day? Should cops give you a couple hundred dollar ticket if they catch you with a cookie? Should it tell us how many hours of TV it’s legal to watch each day? How many minutes of aerobic and weight-bearing exercise to have, or else? What about smoking, drinking alcohol, or taking prescription opiates? The cost is a whole lot higher with each of those things, and it is a “public health issue,” is it not?

  • G’ma G

    “No one is going to deny that finding your wife bleeding in the road is a horrifying experience that no one should go through.”
    True
    But no one should have to watch/hear a friend be crushed to death screaming in agony as the vehicle rolled down hill with him trapped inside by the seatbelt, either.
    Liberty and freedom is not risk free.

    • Ed

      You should write books!

  • PRINCE4EVER O(->

    Busses have seatbelts?

  • Zackknowitall

    Cops stand up on bus. If I stood up the drive would make me sit down. If not the cops would come and arrest me.

  • Ed

    Cops should not waste taxpayer money, ticketing people for not wearing seat belts, even if they are strapped for money. People who disobey laws usually get karma. Insurance will not pay if you were not wearing a seatbelt in an accident! Same with helmets!
    Why should the taxpayer be burdened with your injuries because you decided seatbelts or helmets were silly!