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Father Arrested & Charged After Child Accidentally Walked to School on a Saturday

Berwick, PA — A Pennsylvania father found himself under arrest after his five-year-old son — not understanding it was a Saturday — walked to school by himself.

Forty-three-year-old Jeffrey Wagner now faces a child endangerment charge for his son’s nearly two-mile walk to school amid freezing temperatures on a weekend morning, a local CBS News affiliate reports.

Wagner awoke to his son, Mitchell, insisting it was time for him to go to school, but the father explained there wasn’t school on Saturday and told him to go back to bed — then fell asleep, himself.

After Wagner dozed off — thinking the point had been made — the 5-year-old proceeded to dress himself and bundle up to walk to the bus stop. When the bus didn’t arrive, the diligent child decided to walk the two miles to get to class.

A concerned motorist spotted the boy and called police, who then picked him up  — and subsequently arrested his father.

According to CBS, Wagner waived a preliminary hearing and will now face the charge of child endangerment in county court — all because he slept in on a Saturday morning and Mitchell took it upon himself to walk to school

This Nanny State pursuit of parents guilty only of potential crimes disguised as illegalities marks a vast departure from daily life mere decades ago. As Lenore Skenazy snarkily notes in a blog post for Reason, it’s now as if “any child who ventures outside is immediately in such grave danger, no parent should ever allow it, even if they’re asleep.”

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Just years ago, an itinerant child would have been picked up by the same police officer and delivered home with a stern ‘talking-to’ about the dangers of venturing out without a parent — and Wagner might have received a sharp rebuke — but nothing more.

Increasingly, however, that isn’t the case — and parents are finding that just getting their kids to school can be a complex ordeal mired in wholly unnecessary law and unjust punishments.

In Jasper, Tennessee, The Free Thought Project reported about a mother, who — fed up with her children’s repeated tardiness causing them to miss the bus — led her to teach what should have been a valuable and pertinent lesson, but ended in a stunning confrontation with the police state.

In March, Lisa Marie Palmer told her two children she’d had enough of last-minute car rides to school after they missed the bus, again — and they would have to walk the long three miles.

Palmer, concerned for their safety, did not just send the kids on their way — she drove in front of them — proceeding forward until they caught up, in increments.

But Marion County Sheriff’s Deputy Chris Ladd spotted the children following the car and stopped to investigate.

Palmer explained the punishment to the deputy — which should have been sufficient for him to either go about other duties, or observe to ensure the children made it safely to school.

However, instead of acknowledging the creative and non-violent means the mother had employed to teach the importance of timeliness, Ladd astonishingly charged Palmer with child neglect — asserting in his report of the incident,

“Temperatures were cold, and traffic was beginning to become heavy with citizens heading to work … Mrs. Palmer was in no position to reach her children safely in the event of an emergency.”

Lisa and her husband Douglas even face the possibility of losing custody of their own children thanks to the obscene overreach of the Nanny State.

In Magnolia, Texas, a wholly different issue exists with transporting kids to school — parents there have been cited and threatened with charges or arrest, simply for dropping their children off on school grounds.

At Bear Branch elementary, principal Holly Ray insists parents either wait in the long car line to drop children off, or have them take the bus — otherwise, she says, they’re guilty of trespassing.

“She’s threatening to arrest people,” parent Wendy Jarman said of the unpopular principal to Fox News.

Ray has apparently enlisted the help of Montgomery County Constables to do her bidding, and a number of parents have received citations — others, disgusted with this authoritarian overreach, have withdrawn their children from the school.

“This has happened to many parents,” Jarman told Fox News. “They have been cited. They have been threatened, if they step one foot on school property, they will be arrested and charged with who knows what.”

Jeffrey Wagner, Lisa Marie Palmer, and Wendy Jarman are just a few examples of otherwise law-abiding parents who simply want to ensure their children receive an education.

Apparently, the Nanny State and its Police State enforcement arm feel sleeping in on a Saturday morning, teaching your kids a lesson about tardiness, and even dropping your children at the front door of school are grounds to be branded a negligent and criminal parent.

Anyone with common sense, however, would beg to differ.

  • David Daisy May Boldock

    Those that can should home educate their kids. This is bonkers.

  • The Cat’s Vagina

    I don’t think he should have been arrested, but a social worker should have visited and warned him about keeping a closer eye on a kid that young.

    • Marcia Everett

      Perhaps not but you can’t make yourself stay awake when sleep comes. Temporarily but eventually sleep comes. And if you lock all the doors from the inside and there is a fire….

      • The Cat’s Vagina

        Someone who can’t make themselves stay awake in the morning when their child gets up for the day has one of two problems:

        A: They’re staying up all night to selfishly indulge in an abundance of “quiet time” where they don’t have to be a parent, or
        B: They have a sleeping disorder and should see a doctor before their child chokes or bleeds to death while they’re passed out.

        The simple truth is, if a parent sleeps when their kids do, there shouldn’t be any problem staying awake with them during the day. They can even grab an hour or two of that “quiet time,” since children need more sleep than adults.

        • shots

          unless you work night shift and your wife works day shift… used to get my daughter up when I came home .. fed her locked all the doors and had her sit in the living room where I slept on the couch… anyone comes to the door she wakes me up ,,, she hungry she wakes me up. it worked fine

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            Obviously, something like this wouldn’t have happened to you, having locked the doors as you did.

          • Edward Davis

            I find luck more necessary when dealing with scared adults. Nothing more dangerous.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            If your child-raising policies are scaring the adults in your life, maybe the problem is not all of THEM being unreasonable pussies.

          • Edward Davis

            LOL,Nice! No, Theyr’e not being unreasonable. that’s the thing about fear, it makes sense. It’s logical, and it’s logical to come up with a story to help us with the fear. But being logical doesn’t make it good. The story gives us a feeling of control, the control gives us a feeling of power. That’s the beauty of the controlling aspects of having a plan. unfortunately this type of control can only be destructive. It’s about creating something that makes us FEEL good, rather than BEING good. You see, as Joker says, “It’s all part of the plan.” and he’s right. so long as it’s part of a logical, reasonable plan (our story), people will do it no matter how destructive and horrible it is. People prefer their own destructive plan, to a an unknown or risky future. That is the inherent destructive power of our culture’s emotional need for control. Hence, we call the cops. hence we call people pussies. hence we use doomsday weapons of mass destruction on civilian populations. all part of the plan for peace. because we prefer destructive control, to possibly constructive unknown.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            Look, all I’ve been saying this whole time is that folks need to stay awake and look after their kids when they’re five years old. It’s frustrating to get so much backlash over (what I thought was) such an obvious point.

        • Edward Davis

          Yes, Yes, let’s blame the parent, but i think everyone is overlooking a very real, widespread problem with our society. Namely, that people think police will help. If you see a child that you think might need help, why would you call the police? Just walk up to the child and start a conversation! Police haven’t been paid to help people in a very, very long time. Their job is to fine and arrest people, not help. so long as we keep running to the police every time our neighbors MIGHT need help, we will continue to see these kinds of problems. Calling the police on neighbors and strangers IN ORDER TO HELP THEM, is a fantasy. Call the police when you want heads busted, fines issued, and families damaged by jail-time and poverty. That’s what they do. Also, the sheer number of crimes in our country based on ‘what could have happened’ is ridiculous. Every over-privileged person in the US (which is most of us) thinks it is completely okay to take away people’s rights, money, freedom, and jobs (cause that’s what happens when you go to jail), for what ‘could have happened.’ I hate to break it to people, but a lot of stuff can happen. get over it. If we stop trying to control every aspect of the world, we might be able to learn something from the world instead of dominating it, while calling ourselves heroes.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            Unless you personally know that child, YOU’LL be the one to get the cops called on what people will see as a pedophile, not some nice guy trying to help.

          • Edward Davis

            YES! Indeed, that’s exactly what i’m talking about! Thank you! that’s the concept that is so prevalent in a society that the Native Americans once described as ‘bent’. Yes! That’s the fear that keeps us from doing anything decent. Yes! I want to live in a world that thinks the only REAL reason a grown adult male could possibly want to talk to a child is to rape it! That’s that ‘bent’ mentality! Yes. Thank you for illucidating my point. That is exactly it! Why? Why, Why, Why, could we ever think that the man approaching a child other than his own is going to teach it something? or just have a nice conversation about the weather? And what are we teaching our children about human interaction when we constantly demonstrate the inherent dangers of going outside, talking to another human being, or going anywhere without mommy and daddy? No emotional attachment issues there. and no, of course we’re not training them to have no faith in humanity, human interaction, or society. nope… not what we’re doing at all. AND no; of course that mentality and mode of operation doesn’t teach them that only the police can be trusted to do what’s right, even if it means imprisoning their parents for doing something that they child obviously felt to be correct. This won’t scar the child knowing that the first time they took responsibility for themselves (and likely were very proud of themselves for it) their actions got their father arrested. It won’t teach them to be afraid of doing what they think is best at all. (i could go into a rant here about how we train our children to be children, instead of training them to be adults, all under the aegis of controlled safety, but that’s a related, but different topic)

          • Curry Man

            Walk up to a 5yr. old child to have a conversation with him/her about why he/she is out alone and take the chance that another concerned citizen will call the police because they fear you may/do look like a child molester/kidnapper, especially if in or worse out of your vehicle? Are you nuts? Our over concerned Mother in order to both prevent us from leaving house or opening door to strangers while she was otherwise occupied cleaning or getting cleaned up or using the restroom, took off the handle of those old simple twist turn to lock/unlock the door off and kept it with her. On the other hand once she started working we had to keep ourselves busy at the school across the street, the playground a block away or at a friends house even though every other kid we knew had parents who gave them keys to let themselves in, she was afraid there was way too many things, playing with matches, stove fires, broken plumbing, you name it she worried about it till 7th grade with only exception being if older brothers were home. But the police rarely will do anything to help the situation or don’t you read the news and it doesn’t just happen to black people either but that’s another story for another time.

        • Liz O’neill

          either you don’t have kids, or your one of those, nutters who think you know better than every other parent in the world, there can be a million reasons why a parent might still be asleep after a child wakes up, anything from shift work to having a sleepless baby, but you are the perfect, pathetic, know it all jobs worth who would make a perfect state employee, you would be so happy to impose your warped thinking on others.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            “Stay awake and take care of your kids while they’re up” is warped thinking to you? Yeah, I’m the bad guy here!

          • Andropov

            I don’t think it’s absurd to think the guy probably should’ve at least gotten up and put his kid back to bed instead of just rolling over and trusting that it was taken care of. I don’t think what he did was criminal, just a little irresponsible.

      • Liz O’neill

        unfortunately if you lock the child in you are still committing a crime, the state don’t care if its to keep your child safe, they just want the money you will pay in fines, here in Britain we have a much more sensible approach to state interference in family life, we don’t stand for it, its not that the state doesn’t try, we just don’t let them away with it.

        • Curry Man

          Your officers are completely different from ours, maybe in a few rural towns where the sheriff knows everyone. I completely went off on a notoriously “bad” one once when a local “official” I still don’t know what his position was other than the one who should’ve listened when we called a few days prior to complain about an abandoned house trailer in a turnout because it was filling up with trash and oily rags, it’s very wooded up here and the local kids have nothing better to do so abandoned cars etc. will be set ablaze sooner or later and so one morning it was. Since my wife and I worked caring for her totally and permanently disabled brother who kept us up late most nights and woke us up during the night we tend to sleep late and never heard the fire trucks-the turnout is on an S curve so sounds of cars etc. cut out until they come out of it, wife sleeps with room fan on all night, this guy comes to our locked front gate asking questions which I answered politely until I realized he was insinuating that the perp was me or someone who lived here due we found out months later to him questioning another neighbor who said the trailer looked like one she saw on our property and yes a same color year but totally different front used to be here until wife’s sister moved out and we had her move it, she had it towed to a property of a friend miles away, so not same trailer, the woman who told them this apologized when she realized it was her saying that that took this idiot official to our home. So I told him I’ve already told you a million times it ain’t me or us why would we set ablaze anything that would burn toward our property and I don’t care if you don’t believe that we slept thru the noise, I’m done talking to you f**k off. That caused him to get all flustered and sputtering as I walked away, afterwards my wife and I were enjoying sitting outside in front yard with coffee when this idiot comes back with “Deputy Dawg” as the locals called him, a total jerk of the worst kind and after explaining all of it once more and this idiot who if he’d done his job and had that trailer towed away, at county expense of course, and telling them to go to the property where the one that used to be here was and that I’m not stupid enough to do this, I finally told him with many swear words directed at mr idiot to go ahead keep it up I could use the money when I take you to court and sue you for all of this, now f**k off we’re done, the whole time deputy dawg just asked same dumb questions from time to time while leaning on my gate and I kept my distance so he couldn’t grab me, I could just feel his desire to do that, since I was pissed. But for the locked gate and my righteous anger and no warrant and knowing full well my innocence and rights I would’ve had these idiots on my front porch to deal with not to mention my dogs wanting a piece of their asses, don’t train them for that would never sic ’em on anyone, exactly the opposite I’d protect them. There’re good ones and bad ones wherever you live, unfortunately the bad ones are increasing in number. Don’t let ’em push you around if you can get away with it and all of this due to an inept “official” who didn’t like the way I dismissed him as a nobody with no authority who needed a scapegoat to cover his own negligence and an innocent neighbor just trying to help plus mr. idiot coming back with the law.

    • iMRightNURNot


    • Hugh Culliton


      • The Cat’s Vagina

        Thank you! I’ve been getting a lot of pushback on my controversial “stay awake and watch your children” nonsense!

        • Hugh Culliton

          Maybe we were just hyper-vigilante, but until they turned 10 we never let either of our sons be awake in the house without us. Not that there’d be much chance of sleep with my kids awake!

          Seriously, without supervision, kids will invariably find the most dangerous thing around and head straight toward it.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            Or, if they’re not into danger, they will seek out the most destructive mess imaginable and make the fuck out of it.

          • Hugh Culliton

            I have an interesting photo of our basement rec room after my eldest (then 11) angry at me for something, turned on the garden hose and dropped it through the screen into the rec room. A couple hours later I wondered, “what’s that sound?” leading me to discover a dripping-wet main electrical panel and squishy carpet.

            Surprisingly, all children are still alive!

          • Hugh Culliton

            That’s awesome!!!!! Is that plaster? He looks so supremely pleased!

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            Far as I can tell, it’s just a gallon of white paint. Note the footprints – plaster would be too thick to leave that kind of detail. No doubt he looks pleased because Mom and Dad are taking pictures of him… and probably laughing to keep from bursting into tears.

  • Aprildawn Hale

    Had I encountered the kid whilst out and about, I would have walked with the kid back home to make sure he got home safe and leave it at that. No need to bring the cops or CPS into the mix. This is stupid. Kids do crazy things sometimes and it’s not ALWAYS the parent’s fault that shit happens.

    • The Cat’s Vagina

      That’s easy enough for a woman to do, but any such act from a man might well be interpreted as some pedophile trying to lure a victim. If the person who called the cops was a man, he probably made the right decision.

      • Christopher Karl

        Interesting angle. I probably wouldn’t have even thought of that, but, you’re probably correct. It’s a shame how that’s the way it is…

      • Edward Davis

        I understand what you are saying, and indeed it was my immediate first thought as well. This is a valid modern American perception of what it means to ‘help’ someone. i think we need to change it. In the case of a man seeing the child, the man needs to ask himself, “When i saw the child, was i thinking of helping myself, or was i thinking of helping the child?” unfortunately, most Americans start off wanting to help others, but when confronted with even the thought of themselves having a stake or risk involved, bail out and call the police, rather than taking responsibility for the help they claimed they wanted to give. we make it seem like a small act, to help someone, but it isn’t; and in our extremely warped and destructive society, we must acknowledge,that to truly help someone, does in fact mean that you put yourself at risk. If You’re helping someone without any personal risk, you’re probably hurting them. Let me say it clearly: You cannot help someone while protecting yourself. That’s not how help works. That’s what makes it so special and significant a thing. I think back to one of my favorite novels; A Little Princess, when the starving main character child sees an even more starving street child, and gives her a lot of the meager food she (miraculously) has for a moment. That was helping. A man talking to the child, in full awareness of “How it looks” is also helping, and ‘ the right thing’. Personally, i have yet to see a first hand scenario in my life, where calling the cops was the right thing to do. I have never seen police show up and ‘help’ anything. (Though i have seen them not-hurt anything when legally, they could have very easilyIt’s a funny thing about people with authority and guns. (i have seen police be helpful, but rarely when called upon to be so: this leads me to believe that once it is on record and official, the cops ability to make a judgement call is severely impaired by his job requirements).

      • Lunatic_Dizzy

        Unfortunately, that is the truth. I was once shopping with my grandma. She was ahead of me in the aisle and passed by a middle-aged lady and a young girl. She smiled and said hi and they did the same. But when I walked by them, the little girl smiled at me so I smiled and said hi and the mom gave me a scared look and pulled the child close. That was the first time I have ever had that happen. And I am certain that if I would have stayed close to my grandmother, I would have been seen as the grandson helping his elderly grandmother. And not as the potentially dangerous male lurking in the shopping mart.

    • Lunatic_Dizzy

      Unfortunately, that is the truth. I was once shopping with my grandma. She was ahead of me in the aisle and passed by an middle-aged lady and a young girl. She smiled and said hi and they did the same. But when I walked by them, the little girl smiled at me so I smiled and said hi and the mom gave me a scared look and pulled the child close. That was the first time I have ever had that happen. And I am certain that if I would have stayed close to my grandmother, I would have been seen as the grandson helping his elderly grandmother. And not as the potentially dangerous male lurking in the shopping mart.

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  • doucyet

    If there’s money in it for the state your ass is going to be arrested, police state. This father could have been let off with a short safety speech and a warning, but that does not pay the bills…………

  • Rogue cops cost us money

    When parents can be charged with a crime for their kids being kids, this is one fucked up sorry state affairs in this country.

    • Ed

      Think that over again! Parents should be charged when their children cause trouble! This wasn’t the case here. We now blame the school or the environment for these problems, but it’s the parents job to teach their kids right from wrong! When I was wrong my ass really hurt! And that’s another story!

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  • hommedespoir

    Home schooling just acquired a few more convinced converts…

    • Edward Davis

      LOL, Unfortunately, that is the route we are expected to take. If our solution to a police state is to stay indoors, then it’s not really a solution at all. The main problem in this scenario is the willfullness of the the culture involved. Why is it considered normal and okay to call the police on a child, instead of doing the simple solution, and talking to them? you see, in both these scenarios the overwhelming problem is the basic fear we are taught, expected to, and do in fact have, of interacting with one another as human beings. The person didn’t talk to the child, they called the cops. Why? I have an answer to this question, but i’d like to people to think for themselves. likewise, our immediate reaction to this article, is to allow ourselves to be intimidated into isolating further (by abandoning public education), when we were already too divided to approach a lonely child on the street! Suffice to say, we have serious sociological illnesses here that aren’t getting addressed.

  • FiuToYou

    Boy does the swamp need to be drained and the nut cases put in the nut house. Take the children away
    from the parents is going a ‘little’ too far for these kind of stupid laws!!

    • Edward Davis

      Unfortunately, the swamp that needs drained is our entire culture of fear, control, and privilege. It would be really easy if it was one or two ‘crazies’. To quote Owen Wilson from the movie Behind Enemy Lines: “Everyone thinks they’re going to punch some Nazis in the face at Normandy beach, but those days are long gone.” unfortunately, our new enemy is US. (How very Buddhist of us). The cops should have never been called. That was the biggest mistake in this story.

    • The Cat’s Vagina

      In all fairness, the story didn’t say the child had been taken away from his parents, only that the father was arrested and they MIGHT have to go to family court.

      • Edward Davis

        I agree. we really don’t know the extent of the prosecution at this point, from this article. I think most of us agree, (not exactly a random sample of Americans though, are we?), that what WAS done, was too much. (Sometimes i imagine myself as a cop, or judge, and the amount of ridiculous calls or cases i would get from privileged people wanting to maliciously take from someone else for little or no reason- then i sigh, and rub the bridge of my nose for those officers and Judges)!

  • Something is wrong with story. I can’t imagine a 5 yo kid trying to walk to school in freezing temperatures when the school is 2 miles away. Those parents did something wrong, I suspect that’s why they were arrested and because of privacy, we’re not hearing all the facts.

    • Samuel Lane

      When I was 5 a neighbor kid would walk me to kindergarten. But he was sick one day and couldn’t accompany me but i told my mother, “I know the way.” So thereafter I would walk the two miles to the elementary school – no problem. My mother would send me into downtown Pittsburgh to get a package from the department store when I was 6. Took the streetcar, got off at the store, went in and up to the department, gave the clerk her “charge-a-plate”, got the receipt and the package, caught the street car to the end of the line and walked home. No problem.
      I could roam the almost the entire length of our community through the woods or, if no woods, back streets and alleyway “shortcuts.” Today, I’ll bet most kids don’t know what’s outside of one block from their house!

      • Granted, things were different long ago. I walked back and forth to school and played in the park until sundown. But two things make this story kinda weird. 1. freezing temperatures. 2. The bus didn’t come. Now if I was a 5 year old and was waiting for the school bus and it didn’t come, what would I do? I would tell my parents, that’s logical, why would this kid just decide to walk to school. Maybe he was afraid of his parents, maybe something else is going on here, and they can’t tell us because of privacy.

        • The Cat’s Vagina

          I’m glad I’m not the only one who had that thought. Humans (even small children with infinite energy) are naturally lazy creatures who instinctively seek the path of less resistance. If a child would rather walk two miles in the freezing cold than ask his parents for a ride, the most obvious assumption is that he’s used to being harshly punished for missing the bus… in a way that’s more unpleasant than a long, freezing walk.

          It also sounds like he’s quite used to Dad rolling over and going back to sleep instead of helping him get ready for school.

          • PJ London

            ‘Humans (even small children with infinite energy) are naturally lazy creatures.’
            Are you insane? All small children and many adults are in fact full of energy, watch how many joggers and people exercise at the gyms, look at the amateurs playing sport at any park any Saturday.
            Maybe you are having a projection.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            Going to the gym or playing a sport you enjoy is ENTIRELY different than trudging two miles in the freezing cold. Perhaps I should clarify what I meant by “lazy.” It doesn’t necessarily refer to a complete lack of physical activity, but rather an aversion to anything that would be considered work and not at all fun or recreational… or even necessary, as would be the case of a kid who doesn’t have reason to be afraid to ask for a ride.

          • PJ London

            Again you are wrong.
            The most depressing thing that you can do to anyone is to deny them the opportunity to ‘work’.
            You may like to sit on your sofa and watch soaps all day, but the vast majority of people actually want to feel as though they contribute, and not just sit on the sidelines and throw snide and irrelevant comments.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            Everything you just said has NOTHING to do with the mentality and philosophy of a five-year-old. You’re just frustrated because you can’t come up with a better reason for him to decide to walk to school in freezing weather than that he was afraid of his father. I guaran-Goddamn-tee you that this kid didn’t decide to walk because he wanted to contribute to his family and worried about the cost of gas. As the (misspelled) shepherd has implied, I suspect that what got the father arrested was NOT the fact that his kid accidentally walked to school, but whatever the kid told them when they asked him about why he chose to walk to school instead of going back home and asking for a ride.

          • PJ London

            What part of “waiting for the bus” did you not understand.
            2 miles is nothing to a fit person even a 5 year old.
            You are back to ‘I suspect’, no you idiot, Putin made him do it.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            You already said goodbye… go on now, shoo. *brandishes a plant spritzer with menace*

          • Edward Davis

            LOL, very cute! (i found super-soakers worked well on my cat).

          • Edward Davis

            That’s a wonderful story, but not better than any other one I’ve heard for the child’s motivation. in fact, I’m gonna say it’s worse, only because you won’t consider that there could be another reason. Not every child is alike. I posted elsewhere on here that my 7 year old daughter and i go on multi mile walks extremely often since she was old enough to walk. (I would carry her as a two year old when she got tired). She just recently marched with me in Denver’s Gay Pride parade this year, something that most ADULTS were afraid to go to, because it was shortly after an attack on a planned parenthood in Colorado Springs. you know what? She was the only- the only small child- i saw walking this year, and she had a blast! I was extremely proud of her, and she was proud of herself. I have no doubt it will be a lasting memory for her. She delighted the crowd, and it lifted EVERYONE’S spirits to see her out there handing out candy.

          • Cal

            I think you are mistaking an American child for the “progressive” child.

            As an American, I have initiated many things from before I was in school, until an adult. I was proud that I could do the dishes, clean-up, dress my self, take myself to school, feed the animals before I went, etc. The weird concepts that color the thinking (if one wants to call it that) today is the problem and it was taught to you.

            All the kids I knew were proud to be capable of doing things themselves. It was the sign of growing up, being responsible. That does not mean that we did not enjoy playing we did. But we also understood that there were things that needed to be done, and we learned to do them, then did them ourselves at different ages. We were PROUD to be able to do them without help from an adult.

            Your concept of “the mentality and philosophy of a five-year-old” is from a progressive, controlled by the state teachings. That is NOT what is normal for children beyond toddler ages, and even they like to do “it for themselves”, “ever hear “I can do it myself”? That is a real normal child. That is them reaching for control of their own lives.

            It starts young or no child would walk, etc which they do even now. It is the way a NATURAL child thinks and acts. But that is taught out of them by propaganda, socialist schools, etc. They are no longer allowed to think for themselves because that is a danger to those who serve within our governments.

            Sounds like to me that you may have been thoroughly brainwashed and need that “governmental control” they are working so hard to put into place within the USA. Is this really the nation you want to live in, because “We the People…”, the Americans here, are tired of these traitors and domestic enemies of our nations lying, stealing, progandizing, subliminals, police state, over regulated way beyond what is allowed – and that is in writing, etc. We are sick of those socialist/etc scum who serve within our governments – state and general (federal) – working from inside to destroy our nation. Unfortunately you seem to be already a part of that, and you mindset is beyond changing if this guy is correct https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g

            WE need to charge, arrest, prosecute those traitors and domestic enemies ; replacing them with true Americans. It is really bad when it is our children and families that are paying the price for our not enforcing the US Constitution and each state’s Constitution – you know, the contracts that ALL who serve within our governments are Oath bound to and serve under.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            Yeah… none of that sounds even a little bit crazy. *walks away rolling her eyes*

          • Cal

            It isn’t crazy, it is the way NORMAL children are. Guess what, growing up on farms, etc they still behave that way. They feed, water livestock before breakfast, and then dress all by their selves (amazing, right?), they even get themselves to school until the schools got so progressive and controlling, so now they homeschool – you know, teach themselves with occasional oversight and assistance. Bet you cannot even take an old 6th grade exit exam, but they can.

            Grammar (Time, one hour)

            1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.

            2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications.

            3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.

            4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run.

            5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.

            6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.

            7-10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

            Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)

            1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.

            2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?

            3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?

            4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?

            5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.

            6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.

            7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $.20 per inch?

            8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.

            9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?

            10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.

            U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)

            1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.

            2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.

            3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.

            4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.

            5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.

            6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.

            7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?

            8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?

            Orthography (Time, one hour)

            1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?

            2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?

            3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?

            4. Give four substitutes for caret ‘u’.

            5. Give two rules for spelling words with final ‘e’. Name two exceptions under each rule.

            6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.

            7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super.

            8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.

            9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.

            10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

            Geography (Time, one hour)

            1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?

            2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?

            3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?

            4. Describe the mountains of N.A.

            5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba
            Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.

            6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.

            7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each.

            8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?

            9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.

            10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.

            Well, can you do this exit exam? No? Starting to understand exactly what dumbing down means? Or just rolling your eyes and walking away because it is easier to not learn and keep a “cherished belief” even if it is incorrect?

            What is crazy sounding is your concept of what is “normal” for a child. Guess you have never heard a child, a toddler even, saying “I can do it myself”? That is where that action applies.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            This is way above my pay grade, so I’m foisting ya off on someone else. *looks around the room* Anyone wanna talk Cal here?

          • angelwind

            There’s 6th grade exit exams now? When did elementary school become a college?

          • Witchwindy

            Oh how I wish I could vote your comment up a thousand times! You are absolutely correct.

          • PJ London – maybe you are talking about yourself. Maybe you would not beat your children, maybe your children aren’t afraid of you. Maybe this story is not about you. Maybe its about a 5 yo who is afraid of his father and a father coming up with this crazy story to explain himself that I don’t even believe.

          • PJ London

            There is absolutely nothing in the article to indicate this.
            Maybe it is not really his father. Maybe he is a victim of a slave child molester. Maybe his mother is a crack addict. Maybe he is afraid of his teacher and was scared of being punished. Maybe the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster has fried his brain. Maybe Santa Claus forgot his presents.
            From your name, maybe you believe in “..a God who could make good children as easily a bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave is angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice, and invented hell–mouths mercy, and invented hell–mouths Golden Rules and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people, and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man’s acts upon man, instead of honourably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites his poor abused slave to worship him!
”, The Mysterious Stranger, Mark Twain

          • Maybe it is about a lot things, but it certainly isn’t about you. Shouldn’t take things so personal, it’s not good for you.

          • PJ London

            Pussy’s Pussy made it personal, not me.
            You made it personal, you addressed me.
            I am quite capable of knowing what is good for me and what is not.
            I do not need or wish for advice from a person who cannot spell, inserts his unwanted opinion in comments with absolutely no basis of fact and trolls with ‘maybe’ this, maybe that.
            When you start a comment’PJ London’ then yes it is about me, but you are not smart enough to realise something so complicated.

          • I believe Pussy Pussy just shared her opinion. She shared her opinion with me, it was you who trolled her who is not brave enough to show your face. Your personal story of your child hood is wonderful, but you’re not that 5yo, and you don’t know what that 5yo told that police officer when he was picked up. If you believe the story from the father who said he told his son there was no school today and went back to bed, I guess you would believe anything, so sad for you.

          • PJ London

            Not at all, but it doesn’t matter.
            I believe people unless they are proved to be untruthful.
            “I’m not upset that you lied to me, I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you.”
            ― Friedrich Nietzsche
            “Brave enough to show my face”?
            Putting up a picture of John Lennon? I could put up Brad Pit but what the heck,
            Regarding opinions one can follow Bacon
            “The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion draws all things else to support and agree with it. And though there be a greater number and weight of instances to be found on the other side, yet these it either neglects and despises, or else-by some distinction sets aside and rejects, in order that by this great and pernicious predetermination the authority of its former conclusion may remain inviolate”
            – Francis Bacon
            Or one can follow Plath
            “Opinions are like orgasms… mine matters most and I really don’t care if you have one.”
            — Sylvia Plath

          • Ha – everybody calls me John Lennon.

          • PJ London

            You are not John Lennon, just a sad look-alike wannabe.

          • The Cat’s Vagina
          • Edward Davis

            you don’t find it odd, that you and i look at the same scenario, and i think, ‘the child is proud of their accomplishment and is going on a heroic adventure,” and you think “the child is being abused by their parent, and desperately wants to get out of the house?” of course i’m paraphrasing my impression of your meaning, and putting imaginary words in your mouth, but i still think the basic premise holds. Two completely different stories with the same (limited) info! (personally, i do agree with this fellas initial statement about all the info not being presented, and in fact i could say that about a lot of the rather, sensational headlines from this source, though it is likely because they don’t know all the facts either-real reporting is difficult and time consuming!)

          • Yet, there is still another angle. What takes longer, walking 2 miles or taking the bus. If you waited for the bus and it did not come and you decided to walk, maybe you would be late for school, so you would go back and tell your parents. Maybe they would give you a ride or maybe they would give you an excuse for being late. But father claims that he told his son that he didn’t have to go to school and went back to bed and the son went anyway. This story doesn’t make any sense. If I was a cop I wouldn’t believe it either.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            I’m inclined to agree there’s more to the story than we’re being told, which would make a LOT more sense than the cops arresting some guy just for letting his kid wander off, for no other reason than “ooga booga boo, they’re coming after YOU.” Even if the author is being as straightforward as possible, you’re right in that police WILL NOT release details of cases that involve children. It’s just not done and the fact that this is all we’ve heard absolutely does NOT mean that this is the only thing that happened.

          • Edward Davis

            ummmm. I think you’ve got humans backwards. Like many people, your mistaking the effects of a dominating, subversive and controlling society on it’s populace, for human nature across the board. There is a big difference between Mcdonaldization (ie a culture of convenience and subjugation- think opiate for the masses) and human nature. if human beings were inherently lazy there wouldn’t be such a thing as war, because all humans would be too lazy to fight them; or fight ever for that matter. No, humans are exactly the opposite. Busy Little Bees. I often associate the brilliant geniuses of the Mannhatten Project as the quintessential humans of our time: They’re so excited with whether or not they CAN do a thing, they don’t stop to think if they SHOULD. Also I’m reminded of the movie Flight of the Phoenix, in which a character says something like; “In Life, a person only requires a couple things; someone to love, something to live for. if you can’t give them that, at least give them something to DO.” People LIVE for having something to do. It’s only a feeling of powerlessness from our warped society and culture that makes us APPEAR lazy. take away the control, and the laziness goes with it. Unfortunately, we are addicted to our control (i mean this literally, both physically and emotionally) and are not willing to try it. so instead we tell each other what to do- thus demoralizing ourselves. Yay! Social Control! Why have police do it, when our neighbors do it for them! 🙂

        • PJ London

          Or maybe the kid just decide to walk to school. At 5, I walked or rode the bus depending on the weather. (if I walked I could buy a sweet or an ice cream)
          ‘freezing temperatures’, in Romania the temp sits at minus 13 degrees for a week at a time, you dress up and carry on the same as if it was 20 deg. They don’t cancel school just because it is cold.
          Watch the Japanese children at 2 and 3 being given tasks to do, including delivering things outside the house and across traffic.
          Not all people are really really stupid. (or really really paranoid.)

    • PJ London

      You are full of it. At 4 my sister took me 3 blocks to the library with her. After that I would climb out of the window to get to the place where they kept tons and tons of books. I had found heaven and to walk 3 blocks was nothing.
      At 5 I took my younger brother to school by bus and by road. It is only these days that ‘children’ stay ‘children’ until they are 30!
      At 10 I travelled by bus into town and paid the monthly accounts, making sure that the right cash was given and the right change was given back. I had to account for every penny.
      And yes we did have paedophiles and other dangerous people, but we were smart enough to make sure that we were safe.

      • The Cat’s Vagina

        There sure are a lot of people in these comments who are DESPERATE to condone and rationalize child neglect. The immediate hostility toward anyone who feels otherwise bodes rather ill for the children of these “freedom fighters.”

        • PJ London

          You show immediate and unwarranted hostility and downright defamatory slurs at the parents and whine because someone disagrees with you.
          I am not desperate, I am angry at fools and knaves who are desperate to punish people and want to separate children from their parents without just cause.
          Both my sons are very successful adults who are succeeding because unlike 90% of their peers, they take responsibility and demonstrate common sense and leadership.
          The fact that you lack imagination is your problem, it does not make the parent in any way delinquent.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            No, what makes a parent “delinquent” is being piled up in bed while their five-year-old is LITERALLY wandering the fucking streets! Not ONCE in this comment section have I said ANYTHING about this man deserving more than a mild lecture from a social worker, yet I have multiple people attacking me (and putting false words in my mouth) because I refuse to make excuses for this guy and agree that he did nothing wrong.

          • PJ London

            You are lying ….
            “Those parents did something wrong, I suspect that’s why they were arrested and because of privacy, ”
            Thereby saying ‘you suspect’ that they did something which was worthy of being arrested.
            Your whole tone was accusatory, either you have never had children or you are being argumentative for the sake of argument. I had one of my children get up at 11;00 pm and dress himself and make breakfast as he thought it was time to go to school.
            I told him ‘Go back to bed’ I did not wait to see whether he did or not.
            Goodbye, I can’t be bothered with liars.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            Goodbye to you. I likewise can’t be bothered with people who argue vehemently for a parent’s “right” to neglect their children to the point that they’re wandering the streets on a freezing cold morning… not just the right to do so without arrest, but the right to do so without criticism from anyone.

          • Cal

            You’re an “imbecile” because that is only child “neglect” under socialism.

            Before you get angry with me, it really was never unusual, etc until we got the good old “socialism, communism, whatever ‘ism being put into place here within our nation. And, yes, I would know and do know. Ever hear a child say “I can do it myself”?

            How old are you, 20 – 40? Because people who lived before that in this nation was quite used to doing for themselves more at almost any age. THAT is what is normal. This carp (deliberate miss spell) is something you have been taught, and so that you and any young you might have will pass that on, limiting your child, their thinking, actions, capabilities to do for themselves, etc even more. More children to day are medicated, injured, etc then earlier before we allowed this into our nation.

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            You sound nice. You can come to my house and fuck my sister!

          • iMRightNURNot

            Obviously, you’re all clASS and obviously HIV+!

          • The Cat’s Vagina

            You do realize you quoted someone else after calling me a liar about what I said.

          • Edward Davis

            She’s just emotionally frazzled at this point, which is understandable. she’s been at this for a while, and it’s is difficult for someone to not feel like they’re being attacked, when they have no one on thier side. yes, her statements are currently all over the place, but admittedly they didn’t start that way. It’s hard not to take things personal or get frustrated when it seems everyone is against you, and i’m under the impression she comes off pretty strong in general. probably just needs a breather.

          • PJ London

            My disagreement is that she starts out with ‘there is more to this’ without any evidence or even a ghost of wrongdoing. Then makes out that a 5 year old is incapable of making decisions and doing things on their own. It has to be ‘the parents did something wrong’.
            I drove my parents crazy at 3 – 4- 5 , my Nan could not walk properly and I spent all my time escaping from the house (and from my kindergarten, they asked my parents to take me out) because I wanted to explore. I found the library and would wait outside for someone to enter as I could not reach the handle. I liked the park as it had swings. I was terrible. I knew how to cross the roads, I knew how to find my way home, and I knew my name and street address in case I did get lost. At one stage my Nan had to tie me to the table, absolute child abuse, as otherwise I was gone.
            PS my youngest was tied to the teachers table in his first year, he would not, could not, sit still but had ‘ants in his pants’. His teacher adored him, he was an absolute ‘sunshine kid’. Nowadays he would be on Ritalin in his first week.
            Some children are independent, adventurous and absolutely wonderful. It is the police and CPS that are the problem.
            The kid deserves a medal, the parent needs a rest, the complainers need to get a life.

          • I’m on her side, actually, she’s on my side. The story doesn’t make any sense. I don’t find it believable. There are parts missing. When that cop questioned that boy, what that boy told that cop, you don’t know. This guy could very well be a #pizzagate satanist ritual abuser pedophile, or he could be innocent – you don’t know. This story doesn’t investigate deep enough, it just lets you assume that the authorities are in the wrong. If you assume that without all the facts, you are wrong.

        • Edward Davis

          well, we are able to talk about what happened without labeling it as inherently negative. I’m not one to think that locking children inside a house is an emotionally healthy act (for the parent). Nor am i one to think that constantly monitoring children, without giving them time on their own, is emotionally good for the children or parent. If a parent feels that they have to constantly watch their kids, otherwise something horrible is going to happen, it is bad for the emotional psyche and stability of the parent. Unfortunately, it’s also bad for the child, as every single human being, even children, need their space to think their own thoughts, develop their own interpretation of reality, and adjust a healthy emotional balance between introspection, and social engagement. (as it turns out, a walk is an amazing way to do this- Buddhist monk Thich Nhat Han calls it walking meditation). As i just recently reminded my own mom, ‘everything we do teaches children’. Locking them indoors teaches them to be afraid. Not letting them do anything on thier own, teaches them to be emotionally dependent, and readily subjectable to authority. See Max Horkheimer’s essay “Authority and the Family.” You see, the government needs us to train our kids to be this way. They need our kids to ‘agree’ to be controlled. They need our kids to call the cops on thier neigbors, and pat themselves on the back for it. They need our kids to be so compliant with outside control, that they are lazy, unmotivated and fatalistic. That is the current world we live in. Y’know, in a nutshell. 😉 I could go on… (and probably will, sometime).

      • Witchwindy

        This current society deliberately infantilizes the children so that by age 18 they act more like an 8 year old in my day, and by 25 they are more like a 15 year old in my day (I’m in my 70s). People have forgotten what life was like just over one hundred years ago — people married as young as 13 but more frequently around age 16, they then ran their own households and farms and/or businesses. Prior to that age, the older children were given the task of teaching the younger children the tasks they needed to learn and the chores they were assigned, even if the older child was only 3, because the parents were too busy with running the household, cooking, farming, running a business to mind the children all the time. Those children were taught responsibility, this society tries to prevent them EVER learning responsibility for themselves or others. Every child in my day was a free range child, didn’t matter if we lived in the city or the country, we ran free all day long as long as we were home by dinner, we went where we wanted on foot, on bikes, or on the bus. When I was 4 i was often to be found blocks from home in the Junction in West Seattle (business area) window shopping the five&dime, or watching the Spudnuts being made in a the window of the Spudnut Shop, I played with friends in the Catholic church in the neighborhood. When I was 6 I lived in a different town, and in summer would walk the 4 miles to the local lake to go swimming. All my friends had similar freedom. Children these days do not get to experience freedom, it has gradually gotten worse since my children became adults to the point that freedom has greatly decreased for everyone today, children and adults alike. And it has all been done deliberately, the greater dependence the government can create, the more people that become dependent upon government handouts and “protection” (which protection is actually nonexistent) for itself the more powerful the government becomes, and the more powerful government becomes the more tyrannical it becomes as well.

        • PJ London

          James Madison, US fourth president, wrote: “The class of citizens who provide at once their own food and their own raiment, may be viewed as the most truly independent and happy. They are more: they are the best basis of public liberty, and the strongest bulwark of public safety. It follows that the greater the proportion of this class to the whole society, the more free, the more independent, and the more happy must be the society itself.”
          Youtube – return of superman

    • Samuel Lane

      I can’t relate regarding a bus. When I was a kid (and all the way through high school), if one rode a bus to school, one lived out in the country, As to freezing temps, that’s the way it is around here. We’re used to it.

  • NobleNerd

    There use to be a time when the police would pick the child up, take him home and have a conversation with the parent. The parent would then be left with disciplining the child. Now they get charged with a “crime”?!?!

  • palvadore

    What’s the law say?

    Is no child (anyone under 18 or is it 21?) allowed out of the house without an adult present?

    Is it illegal for a child of 8 or 10 to walk to school? Is it a crime for a child of 14 walk to school? Is playing with a dog a crime or is it playing with a dog in the front yard the crime? Is crying on the curb over a lost cat a crime or I suspect loosening the cat the crime?

    What is the law?

    I suspect the truth is that the cop got pissed because the father wasn’t kissing his ass and the snowflake felt “disrespected”. That’s why he got arrested. It likely had nothing to do with an “illegal” act.

  • Thomas Oyer

    like it says at the end, “Anyone with common sense” Unfortunately common sense barely exists anymore.

  • Ibcamn

    progressive horseshit,that’s all it is……………and for the cops to do it,makes them criminals,period

  • FlunkedAgain

    If they miss the bus, let them stay home and clean something, or make them read Charles Dickens.

  • I abandoned the U.S. 17 years ago this month, and I am soooo glad.

  • willynilly

    I don’t know when these people decided that America’s children belonged to the gov. it is ridiculous and I believe that these people the police and he school admin. should be charged with custodial interference.

  • Lunatic_Dizzy

    If the law really cared about kids, then the police would be pulling school buses over every morning or afternoon. Last time I checked, by law: safety belts are required to be worn at all times while in a vehicle. But I have never once in my life seen a school bus equipped with them.

  • blogengeezer

    Maybe the police, under strict code enforcement of The Law, should try the same procedures to ensure totalitarian ‘Safety’, cradle to grave, day and night…. in urban core Chicago.

    See how far that gets them. How many officers would that take? A Division of militant armed ‘Organizers’? Would most definitely give a new purpose to Democrat Ward Committeemen.

    Would be no problem in financing. Democrats have a historic lust for borrowing more than they have available ….and then raising taxes.