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Summerville, SC — A horrifying police dashcam was released from a fatal incident this week showing Berkeley County deputy James Vansant ramming a motorcycle twice with his cruiser. The strikes caused the motorcyclist, 30-year-old Robert Lee Clark, Jr. of Goose Creek, to crash. He was immediately killed.

The Berkeley County Sheriff’s Office posted a video to their YouTube page on Thursday, showing the Wednesday night police pursuit lasting at least five minutes in Summerville, South Carolina. The chase reached speeds of at least 111 miles per hour and it was all initiated over a minor speeding charge.

The pursuit began when Vansant saw Clark going 66mph on his motorcycle in a 45-zone, Chief Deputy Mike Cochran said, WCSC reported.

The dash camera video shows Clark braking hard abruptly before speeding off multiple times during the approximately 8-mile chase. Toward the end of the chase, Clark brakes again, at which point Vansant’s cruiser rams the motorcycle at a speed of around 90 miles per hour.

Then, at the 5:26 mark, Clark is seen being slightly thrown forward as his bike slows down and is once again rammed by Vansant’s vehicle. Clark, not wearing a helmet, veers right apparently in an attempt to drive between a pulled-over vehicle and the sidewalk, but he crashes and is thrown to the sidewalk.

Although Vansant is on paid administrative leave, the department is already attempting to blame the overt case of vehicular homicide on Clark’s practice of changing gears.

As WCSC reports, when the motorcyclist attempted to accelerate away, the operator appears to have missed a gear while the motorcycle continued to slow, causing contact between the motorcycle and the front right corner of the deputy’s vehicle, Cochran said.

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According to ABC News 4, deputy Vansant in his report only mentioned contacting the motorcycle once prior to the crash. The sheriff’s office in its official statement on the incident also only mentions one instance of contact between Vansant’s vehicle and the motorcycle.

However, the dash cam clearly shows Vansant hit Clark two times. After hitting him the first time, Vansant should’ve stopped the pursuit. However, he did not.

Police later released the information that they found 55 grams of a green plant material and a rolled cigarette on Clark — in some futile attempt to justify ending his life.

According to South Carolina’s rules of engagement for police chases, this should’ve never happened.

According to their policy, “the pursuit is justified only when the necessity of the apprehension of a suspect outweighs the risks created by the pursuit.”

The primary pursuit officer, according to the policy, is responsible for that decision, which requires them to consider nine circumstances and conditions.

Among these conditions are: the seriousness of the original offense that led to the pursuit, the presence and volume of vehicular and pedestrian traffic, and the presence of passengers in the fleeing vehicle.

The dangers presented in police officers chasing motorcycles are so high, in fact, that many states have policies of non-pursuit: meaning they can actually get in trouble for chasing high-speed motorcycles.

Vansant initiated and caused a dangerous pursuit over a minor speeding infraction. Clark was not some international terrorist on his way to blow up a school. He was simply speeding — and now, he’s dead.

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When Vansant initiated and maintained this pursuit, he put his life, clearly Clark’s life, and everyone else’s lives who came near the pair during the chase, in danger — to issue a speeding citation.

As you watch the graphic video below, remember that it could’ve all been avoided had Vansant simply taken down Clark’s license plate number and found him later. Luckily no one else was killed during this entirely preventable atrocity.

The full unedited video is the second video below.

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Posted by Police The Police on Friday, April 21, 2017

 

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Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world. Agorist is also the Editor at Large at the Free Thought Project. Follow @MattAgorist on Twitter, Steemit, and now on Facebook.
  • TOPDOG1

    This is nothing new for South Carolina, an Authoritarian stronghold where thousands are falsely imprisoned and hundreds murdered in cold blood; by law enforcement..Even minor charges have false felony charges added.The South Carolina prison industry ranks near the top , along with agriculture and tourism, of state income. Most of the city’s are no more than prison mills.The prosecutors are the ones who allow these crimes and murders by law enforcement and the ones who should be disbarred or held responsible for aiding and abetting murder and conspiracy to establish a police state…

    • Cindy A sandbeck

      OMG

      • TOPDOG1

        I;m allergic to idiots…AH-CHOO !

    • Daniel Carson

      Has become the worst of the Dixi so called Christains, hypocrites…

      • Daniel Carson

        Georgia on to where these states connect on back down ans across…

        • Daniel Carson

          And

    • jonn

      Really? And you have references to your “facts” about SC?

    • Bill Stewart

      25% correct 75% bullshit.Some of your thoughts have merit. Nearly all your figures and all your facts bullshit.

      • TOPDOG1

        Check the facts for yourself. I also suggest you try thinking for yourself as well, instead of criticizing those who do. If you can come up with a better idea or contradictory statistics do so, we all wish to hear it..If my numbers are wrong I will be the first to retract them.

  • The Cat’s Vagina

    Cops who do shit like this are the most dangerous ones behind a badge. They’re the ones who see each and every suspect as their personal prey, so NO WAY are they going to let some “dirtbag” just ride off and get a court summons in the mail!

    • Zackknowitall

      Until they murder the wrong person’s kid. I know at least 3 ppl that would have kidnapped that cop and skinnned him alive. All of my buddies have seen combat and have no qualms about getting even.

      • estivito

        Be surprised if that doesn’t happen sometime soon. Outright murder; time they no longer get away with it. Extra-judicial justice.

        • billdeserthills

          I’m just glad hear that vigilante justice is making a re- appearance–shows that someone gives a damn

          • Jason Trichlin

            He was a police officer you fucking tool, that means that it is not vigilante justice by definition, are you a semi retard?

          • Joshua Indermuehle

            When a police officer violates the law or a person’s rights, they relinquish their badge and protections voluntarily. That is hwy the supreme court has ruled on over a dozen occasions that killing a police officer is justified if they are in the process of violating a person’s rights. They become a criminal, and you are a ‘deputized citizen’. Don’t believe me? Google ‘ legality of killing police officers supreme court’.

          • Dianna Boullester

            true to word. Thank you

          • Bob E Wills

            Berkeley County deputy James Vansant truly w/o a doubt intended on killing the motorcycle rider. There is NO other reason a jury can come up with now that will justify the Deputy bumping the motorcycle twice and causing him to fatally crash. The Deputy did this so the motorcycle WOULD crash !! 1st of all, Police have this idea they are not subject to the same laws that govern the citizens.Happens everywhere…cities, counties and states even in our executive branch, sighting executive privileges over fundamental laws where they will excuse themselves for breaking the very laws they wrote for…other people.

          • billdeserthills

            If a vigilante objects to the crime committed by this cop that is vigilante justice, ignorant copsucker

          • Bendy Bentley

            Jason Trichlin: You may be, because you completely misunderstood his comment. He was referring to the previous comments about getting revenge on the cop who did this. You may want to read things slow, or twice, before spewing hatred at others.

          • JohnnaCal

            Copper murdering, operating outside the law is called ‘vigilante’. He is not operating under the authority of a badge when he outright murders people. Stop covering for people. No one needs the Webster definition in front of their face to realize what the overall situation is.

          • Anonymous

            Jason Trichlin, are you retarded? If a cop goes and kills someone because he thinks that person may be a criminal, he is STILL a vigilante! Of course, YOU are still a copsucker!

      • G’ma G

        I believe it will come to this. We learned years ago the power of getting 6 of us guys together to corner one of the sister’s abusive boyfriend. We let him know in clear terms she would be calling us NOT the police if he laid another finger on her–that he would be answering to US.

        • Zackknowitall

          I honsttly believe my local police department knows I will not let it ever slide if they try to frame me again or if they do anything to my family. They probably fear doing anything working to my family bc they they think I will make them pay big time. I’m not gonna confirm or deny what i will or will not do but shit would be done.

    • Daniel Carson

      Death roll..

    • G’ma G

      “Prey” being the key word.

    • chris love

      The biker went thru FOUR red lights, veered into the oncoming lane several times and REFUSED to pull over….ALL endangering the lives of other motorists!!! WTF! I am a rider, and would never do these things!
      He killed himself! And, he probably did it because he was evading something…like being drunk or on parole!
      If you support this rider’s actions, then you probably do the same shit…and you give the rest of us a bad name! Don’t be a shithead!

      • The Cat’s Vagina

        So, the cyclist went through these lights and did all this swerving BEFORE the cop started chasing him? Didn’t think so! Look, I know it chaps your ass to let people “get away” when they run from cops, but that’s not how it works. With modern technology, they could have a SWAT team waiting for him in his yard before he even gets back home from the “chase.” Mostly though, they just show up within the next couple of days and arrest the person at home… and remember, running from the cops is an extra charge, so it’s not like they can take a chance on getting away with it altogether.

        If you support the idea of risking pedestrian lives just to catch a speeder in the act because it’s more satisfying than accosting them at home, then YOU’RE the asshole here – not me!

      • Dianna Boullester

        Good little soldier aren’t you? i’ll take being a shithead over being a blind ass, living by the rule fool that you seem to be. Watch that video again without the blinders on. Thast man was murdered.

      • Anonymous

        Don’t be a copsucker!

      • Bob E Wills

        No he did not kill himself….you can blame his death on who ever you want, but you saw the same video everyone else did and “the cop” killed the motorcycle rider…period!!….and that’s NOT funny to me.

  • Zackknowitall

    That pig was driving at 90mph before he even noticed the bike or turned on lights.

  • LawrenceNeal

    Live to ride, Ride to live.

  • John Knox

    speed limits are b.s. anyway, but it blows my mind that a human with a badge would ever think chasing someone over 100mph to give them a ticket for going a few single digit mph over the speed limit is actually making the rest of the citizens safer.

  • itstherecit

    ….the cop did bump him 2 times without very little effort to slow down before making contact both times (look at the speed display in the upper right)…..it’s ridiculous and perjurious to say he didn’t and for anyone in the “system” to say he didn’t…but like all of the murderous asshole cops who have unjustly killed people he will walk…the only recourse will be a civil suit where the peoples taxes will pay for his homicidal actions…had the cop t-boned a vehicle in any of the numerous intersections he sped through in pursuit, he would have probably walked from that too saying that he “feared for his life”, after other cops planted a gun on Clark to prove he was threatened…but instead he put people in danger with his reckless, possibly steroid driven, idiotic actions

  • Michael White

    I usually agree with the headlines on your posts, and the content of your writing. BUT in this case, 99.999% of the fault lies with the biker. Cop is doing over 100 MPH and the bike is still pulling away, that’s not “11 MPH over” like you say caused his death. What caused his death was running at over 100 MPH. Yes, it’s a tragedy. Yes, it’s avoidable. Pull over, get your ticket, fight it in court or pay it, instead, he paid with his life, because he chose to.

    • hang3xc

      According to their policy, “the pursuit is justified only when the necessity of the apprehension of a suspect outweighs the risks created by the pursuit.”

      There was no necessity to apprehend the suspect. You get his plate number and catch him at home, later, because the risks created by the pursuit were far too great.

      It was the cops fault, almost entirely, for not adhering to dept policy. The policy was created because chases are inherently dangerous and MANY innocent people have been killed from overzealous police who HAVE to get their man NOW. It was pure shit luck that an innocent citizen didn’t get hit by either the bike or cruiser.

      The guy was doing 65 mph. That is hardly a life threatening situation that needs to be stopped immediately at all costs when it is so simple to pick him up later

      • Michael White

        As is so often pointed out here, policy is not law. The LAW is, it’s illegal to go over the speed limit. I may not agree with the law, I may not even always obey the law, but if I break, I man the fuck up and deal with the consequences, I certainly don’t place my own and other’s lives at risk over a speeding ticket. Bikers fault, move on.

        • Jason Trichlin

          If you kill someone that is murder if you are speeding that is a misdemeanor that is enforced to raise revenue. I am sure you really believe what you are saying makes sense, probably to other americans it makes sense. Makes me glad I am not american.

          • Bob E Wills

            I’m an American and I don’t agree w/ the officer killing the man.

        • hang3xc

          Policy determines how they ENFORCE law. Policy is written with the safety of the community in mind. Their policy is as I quoted. Cops fault. Sheer luck no innocent citizens were killed. Move on

          • Michael White

            No, The Attorney General and the Justice Department determine how police enforce law. Policy determines how police conduct themselves while enforcing the law. It’s policy to give their name and badge number when asked…how does that determine how they enforce laws? A little common sense goes a long way. Police departments can’t arbitrarily decide how to enforce laws, that’s not how it works.

          • Claude Hw El

            I can agree with u on that one!

          • hang3xc

            Not EVERY policy deals with how they enforce the law. Policies that determine whether to chase & when to abort a chase, DO. ” A little common sense goes a long way. “

          • Michael White

            Violations of laws regarding speeding are enforced by the issuance of tickets, not by the initiation of a pursuit. The pursuit is the conduct displayed while enforcing the law. There is no policy in any police department in the United States which determines HOW A LAW IS ENFORCED. That’s like saying Podunk, Idaho Police Dept. has a policy saying it’s OK to murder Muslims on every odd numbered Tuesday, meaning they’re not going to enforce the law against murder under those circumstances. Not possible. Yes, EVERY policy instructs them in how to conduct themselves while they follow the AG and DoJ guidelines on HOW TO ENFORCE THE LAWS. If the pursuit was the enforcement of the law, then when they caught them, that would be the end of it. “We caught you, you can go now”, but it isn’t. Once caught, the ticket is issued, THAT is the enforcement of the law. I don’t mean to belabor the point, but you don’t seem to be getting it, so I’m trying to put it as simply as I can. If they had the paint app on Disqus, I’d draw a picture.

          • hang3xc

            Whatever

          • Sammy Tumminaro

            ALL LEO’s function with discretion……so uniform enforcement of any law is an impossibility, literally.

        • Claude Hw El

          Man, man, man! J-Walking is also against the LAW but a officer is not justified to run over them just because the person speedwalks away to avoid a ticket!
          And I’m more than sure that if this was your child you damn sure wouldn’t be so (office rght, office good)!
          Remember, it could have been you, your child, brother, best friend or loved one!

          • Michael White

            I didn’t say I agreed with the law. Usually I don’t. If there is no victim standing there having lost property, having been assaulted or killed, then I say there is no crime. That doesn’t change the fact that these laws do exist, and breaking them is a crime I have loved ones in jail for breaking laws I don’t agree with. Know what I tell them? Shouldn’t have done it. I didn’t say officer right, officer good. I said the biker got himself killed by running.

          • Claude Hw El

            Listen! I have more than a half dozen family members who are law enforcement, many ride bikes, over 60 friends that officers and although I haven’t ran this one all of them not a one so far is not super heated about this or your reply about it!
            OK, so maybe this officer is a close friend, love one or family member to you, this is why u are justifying his actions!
            Someone drives off to avoid a parking ticket, speeds hit 60 mph, these speeds reached that because of a (he supported to fear me) officer is pursuing, Mr Bad Azz Officer is still wrong, wrong, wrong for taking that guy’s life no matter what you say!

          • Sammy Tumminaro

            Statistical fact shows that only 1 in 10 leo’s operate within the scope of the law all of the time. 2 in 10 routinely abuse authority, and 7 in 10 are impotent, willing to turn a blind eye toward criminal leo behaviors, in the interest of personal preservation, not public interests.

          • Michael White

            88.7% of statistics are made up on the spot.

          • Bob E Wills

            Thanks Sammy…very interesting info.

          • G’ma G

            Your reasoning breaks down under victimless crimes and the arbitrary nature of the “Law” which changes under the next judges interpretation.

          • Sammy Tumminaro

            Wrong……for a crime to have occurred there must be a ‘victim’ by definition…….crimes against the city/state/public is a farce existing for sole purpose of extortion.

        • Leo Anderson

          mike, you have so much pig cheese in your breath that it makes your words stink. what do you have to say about your pig lover here?
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRDo4vE9tGU

          • Michael White

            So, Leo, let me get this straight, You’re so anti-police, that even the mere thought that maybe, just maybe, the civilian was wrong, merits some playground insult against someone a bit more capable of critical thinking than you’re able to muster? Impressive. I mean, hell, I’m anti-police, but at least if they’re actually in the right, I’m intelligent enough to realize it, and not insult other people who realize it too. Stay stupid, my friend.

          • Leo Anderson

            “stay stupid”? lmfao!!! I’m not your friend. I give you an award named after a famous dimocrat, ruth Ginsberg; the lipshitz award coined for those who master the art of talking out of their ass. and you are a master at talking out of your ass.

          • Michael White

            More playground nonsense with absolutely zero productive commentary….impressive yet again. First and foremost, tell me that it was legal and perfectly OK for the biker to run, at speeds in excess of 100 miles per hour, running red lights and putting other lives at risk. If you can sit there with a straight face, and tell me that was perfectly acceptable behavior, then I guess I’ll will simply have to admit defeat at the hands of such an immense and overpowering intellect. Otherwise, might I suggest quitting while you’re ahead and limit the exposure of your narrow minded opinions before the rest of the world figures you out.

          • Uno

            1. you can’t fishtail or pit stop (whatever you wish to call it) a motorcycle safely without injuring the rider
            2. they aren’t supposed to chase motorcyclists for this same reason
            3. stop letting cops kill people without reprimands…running from the cops should not be a death sentence…how is america free?

          • Michael White

            Not sure where this “Not supposed to chase motorcycles” thing comes from, by all means post a link to the DoJ or AG order to this effect, otherwise, I’ll assume you’re making it up. Let’s, for the sake of argument, throw in a hypothetical, and tell me if my guess about your reaction is accurate. The biker is coming from his ex-wife’s house, where he just murdered her, her new boyfriend, and their 3 children. The cop stops the pursuit, and the biker goes on to kill 4 other innocent people before finally being apprehended. In an interview, this cop says “I had him right in front of me, but I didn’t want to hurt him, so I stopped the pursuit”…..My guess as to your reaction; “Piece of shit cop could have saved four more lives if he had just done his job” Accurate?

          • Uno

            no but your pretentiousness will allow you to make up your own story and expect me defend it as if its my views…foh, you aren’t nearly as smart as you think…

          • Uno

            white people love to put words into anothers mouth and argue against their own words…its literally yalls culture

          • Bob E Wills

            “You’re so anti-police,”…Wanta talk to someone who is anti police you need to talk to me. Not that I’m an habitual law breaker but they are all scum because that’s how they qualified for the job in the 1st place. They are tax collectors and nothing more !

        • Johnathan Myers

          I bet you are breaking some law, everyone is. I bet a thousand to one you have broken the speed limit too! The same standard you have for other people will be applied to yourself.

          • Michael White

            I’m sure it will, and hopefully people will have some concept of MY culpability when it happens

        • Theophilus Fontenot

          Policy is what you follow on the job. If I break policy I can be terminated. You’re right law and policy are different, but on your job you follow policy. Cop wrong broke policy, end of story.

          • Bob E Wills

            Any one that bumps a motorcyclist at 60 mph is INTENT on causing that cyclist to crash…end of story.

    • TOPDOG1

      You sound like just another dead wrong copsucker. The Fight or flight Response (panic) Is the first reaction of all living creatures. How can you justify this you sick bastard.

      • Bill Stewart

        As before 75% what you said bullshit.

        • Alienate

          What’s your fuckin’ problem, dude? 100% of what you post is Troll Crap. Topdog has more valid points than your condescending bullshit.

      • CPK

        Pull over. It’s a pretty simple rule. I don’t buy the flight or flight response. That is an excuse.

        • Jason Trichlin

          Pwned

        • Claude Hw El

          U a dumb fck!

      • Brian Lerma

        The cop was stopping a life threatening high speed chase. Chances are, he probably didn’t think the guy would die. You ever think, “hmm maybe the biker should’ve pulled over?” ? Try not to be such a snowflake

        • Shawn Nagle

          The biker ran red lights and put innocent people in danger, he forfeited his rights when he decided to break the law and run and put innocent people’s lives in his hands.
          I agree with most the things posted here but the biker was completely in the wrong.

          • G’ma G

            He forfeited his right to life because of what maybe might have happened !?! Produce a real victim. I think you missed a spot of brown there on your nose.

          • Bob E Wills

            He was a human being

          • Claude Hw El

            U a dumb!

        • Claude Hw El

          U a dumb fck!

        • Bob E Wills

          Well he didn’t pull over and the cop bumped him twice. The cop had his license plate number…just send it to him in the mail…let the judge see him in court. The death penalty was, death for speeding on a motorcycle. This is meant for TOPDOG1

      • Michael White

        Aww, how original, with the names and the rhetoric. I justify it simply by saying he killed himself by running, end of story.

        • Jason Trichlin

          You are a pig. No doubt. Why dont you go fuck yourself you little prick

          • Michael White

            The speed with which you resort to Ad Hominem attacks makes me glad you’re not an American, as well. We prefer to have intelligent discussions about issues, not insult the intelligent people doing the discussing. Have a wonderful day.

        • Claude Hw El

          No he was killed because that office rammed the shyt out of him!!!!

      • Claude Hw El

        100% str8 murder is da only way!

    • Vanessa Little

      Running over 100MPH did not kill him! The fucking cop bumping his bike is what KILLED him!

  • Guy

    It’s real simple. Had I been the one who had bumped the guy on the motorcycle, as a non cop, resulting in a death or serious injury, regardless of my intent. I would be liable for all consequences as the result ! CA. law makes it the person who hit’s the rear of any vehicle at fault 99.9 % of the time. Believe me, I know, from having enough accidents both in cars and motorcycles to understand this very thoroughly.

    The driver didn’t want to get stopped because he had weed in his pocket, and the cop, was going to stop him no matter what, because he is a cop and that is what they do, stop and arrest or ticket. Clearly this cop is at fault, but will not be blamed or serve one day in jail for it, because he’s a cop, had it been me ! I would be in jail if he had died and or going to court for the injury, and only after I had been forced to submit to every drug test known to man first ! Blue privilege is a bitch and the golden ticket, that lets these SOB’s get away with legalized murder !

  • Cindy A sandbeck

    This was premeditated murder. Protect and serve, ha, scared
    For their life=murder

  • Not pro Israel

    He rammed him resulting in his death. Guilty

    • Claude Hw El

      Bottom line, bruh! ✔💯

  • E. Cortes

    On one hand I’m wondering why he didn’t just let him go? He was so far ahead in the initial part of the video I would’ve just said to hell with it.
    On the other hand, why is he trying to outrun a cop on a custom??

    • billdeserthills

      I’m thinking the 55 gr of weed in the biker’s pocket coulda done it

  • Olgyrene

    This would not be even talked about if this idiot had obeyed the law an driven the speed limit and pulled over when the officer started after him, which he probably did not do because he was under the influence of something. Most likely he was trying to get away but was so messed up he could not keep track of what gear he was in as he tried to get away which caused the officers vehicle to bump into his cycle.

    • TOPDOG1

      You sound like just another dead wrong copsucker. The Fight or flight Response (panic) Is the first reaction of all living creatures. How can you justify this you sick bastard.

      • billdeserthills

        This is definitely the first time I have agreed that repeating the same thing over and over again is a good thing

        • TOPDOG1

          As a multiple police torture and abuse survivor also a victim given a lengthy stretch in the S.C. system on false, trumped up charges I prefer to get right in the cowardly bastards face and scream it.

          • Shannon Cruz

            STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOLE 🖕🏽

      • Olgyrene

        It is easy to justify,since the idiot on the cycle was most probably a silly narcissistic individual who was under the impression that anything they desired to do at anytime was ok if it felt good to them. And I take it from your remark and the language you used in it are exactly like him, but the ranks of the perverted and silly are always glad to welcome one more idiot so you will probably have plenty of company amongst the liberal,socialist dweebs and twits.

        • TOPDOG1

          Not only are you a sick copsucking bastard you are also the idiot, GFY
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          • Olgyrene

            One thing that a person can count on is that those of you who are liberal,socialists who want everyone to conform to your convoluted ideas of right and wrong will always use vulgar personal attacks on anyone who does not agree with those rediculous ideas and demands which seem to always take the wrong side of things which are for the overall good for the majority, such as public safety and the rule of law. It is no wonder that our nation is collapsing and will soon disappear from the world stage and replaced, since the U.S. is fast becoming what Obamy worked so hard for during the 8 disasterous years he and his minions were running it.

          • TOPDOG1

            YEP ! Law and Order copsuckers like you yourself can not be presently overcome but you Authoritarians sure as hell will be brought down. We need a security state and we don’t need a police state.The police are all but worthless.
            …SUPPORT MANDATORY WARNING SHOT REQUIREMENT…

          • Olgyrene

            I am done trying to get you to see that your viewpoint is incorrect, I hope you have a nice life and that if you ever need a policeman it is not one you have insulted personally.

          • TOPDOG1

            The entire premises of your argument is that we need the police. Wrong.Wrong.Wrong Your premises is wrong and your conclusions are also invalid. It is obvious that you have convinced yourself based on your incorrect presumptions. Just don’t expect me to be an idiot and buy into it.also. You are incorrect on several other points as well.Unless you can come up with an argument that holds water quit wasting my time.

          • Olgyrene

            If by chance we are to continue our discussion please learn to spell for instance (premise ) is the correct spelling of the word you used more than once but misspelled each time, can you spell ignorant as well as misguided with your ideas about law enforcement officers one can only hope you never need one and when he or she shows up they recognize that you are the one they read on facebook who did nothing but denigrate officers of the law. Who by the way put their lives on the line to protect even mindless trolls such as yourself.

          • TOPDOG1

            SRY I am almost blind. Many words slip past my processor. If you think dysgraphia ‘a lower function’,indicates intelligence’ it only reveals your own lack of it. Because of police abuse and torture an entire section of my cortex has been damaged. I overcome this handicap with technology. Besides; quit criticizing the author. If you are attempting to be a secretary, ‘YOUR FIRED’. What do “I” have to do with perpetuating police abuse and Authoritarian subjugation?.I only oppose and appear “well in excess” of six hundred million active web sites daily and in at least one hundred country’s. Not bad for a brain damaged dysgraphic? Up to a point’ I treasure ‘valid’ constructive criticism. Try spelling.’Fool. Idiot and Copsucker’.

          • Olgyrene

            I am sorry for your disability, but what were the circumstances that resulted in said problem. Never mind I do not want to know since without some degree of personal involvement I would have no way of separating truth from fiction, and from the vitriol expressed in your previous comments I find it hard to believe that you would not shade whatever the story is in your favor. This missive concludes any exchange between us as far as I am concerned, try to have a good life if you can get over your hate. You might try turning your life over to Jesus by asking him into your heart and accepting his offer of salvationand eternity in heaven in his presence.

  • captainsgirl

    I know a cop who’s going to Hell. But they just laugh at the thought of God. All the corrupt are going to regret all their evil deeds. Just wait. They won’t be laughing when they stand before Jesus. And we are in the Final Hour of the Last Days of the Church Age. Next will be the Rapture, then all the wicked will find themselves having to face Satan himself. You don’t want Jesus? Then you’re asking for Satan.

    • Warren G Richards

      Ahahaha!

      • captainsgirl

        Shame on you! Don’t you ever think about where you’ll spend eternity?

        • TOPDOG1

          If heaven is full of cops…Look for me in hell.

  • James A. Daugherty

    Listen closely and you can hear biker dude yelling, “ALLAHU AHKBAR!”

  • Stephen Duplantis

    He should’ve pulled over. And he should’ve been wearing a helmet. It’s his own fault. Give the cop a raise!!

  • Jonathan Forren

    He stopped the bike from hi the other car… it is the bikers fault for running… it is sad on how this ended but biker put several lives on the line by just running red lights and going as fast as he was. When you run it is a felony and it is a felony to go 20 over the speed limit.

    • TOPDOG1

      ,,You sound like just another dead wrong copsucker. The Fight or flight Response (panic) Is the first reaction of all living creatures. How can you justify this you sick bastard.

  • Beauford T. Justice

    I sincerely hope this cop gets a trial, found guilty and gets the chair.

  • George Yesthal

    I am NO fan of the modern police and believe they are more of a hazard the a help. I’m a writer and have written volumes in condemnation of their actions. That being said. This biker was running and in doing so he blew through many red lights and was determined to keep running. The cop in this instance DID wait for him to slow down before he tapped the cyclist. The guy still tried to get away and was accelerating when the cop tapped him again and since the biker was accelerating, he lost control, continued to accelerate and hit obstacles. I’m sure his death was NOT the cop’s intention.

    • estivito

      Bullshit. You cannot “tap” a motorcycle with a car(especially at speed) without knocking the motorcycle down. Premeditated murder and that cop deserves whatever justice the community dishes out.

  • Carli Williams

    Our entire justice system is FUCKED UP!!!!!!!!!! Some people run just for a stupid cite and release warrant….BUT…..WHY THE FUCK are you chasing someone for a cite and release????? Not saying that was this case, but….sometimes it’s the littlest things and the fucking 5.0 has too be all up in your shit….FOR NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! And it’s then that a lot of innocent people get fucked for no reason!!!!!

    • Carli Williams

      Just to add though…if he was in fact running because he hurt someone…Well….then he gets what he deserves!!!!!!!! KHARMA!!!!!!

      • Shannon Cruz

        How is the cops supposed to know why they are running?! Could be a million reasons. They could be on the run, have drugs, be drunk, have unlicensed gun…that’s stupid saying it wasn’t worth stopping him. The guy wasn’t wearing a helmet and evaded the police raising his speeds over 100 and driving in the opposite lanes multiple times. Does that mean he deserve so to die ?! No but shit happens when you are stupid running from the cops with no helmet on making stupid decisions it will cost you your life

        • larrymotuz

          Why should it cost you your life?

  • Frank Jones

    Shouldn’t have rammed him, BUT Biker was clicking 105+, wrong side of the road…many times, red lights, many times, looked out of control, many times, he could have killed or injured quite a few others, as well as himself…..No winners here…

  • Dan Quixoté

    My favorite uncle died from this sort of thing many years ago. There was a chase, but no ramming. It really was all his fault. But had the cops ever tapped or rammed him, it would have been their fault. Like another commenter wrote below – if you hit someone from behind at all, and they crash – you’ve fully caused it.

  • Dani O’Bryan

    If a cop is behind you with lights, sirens and everything else and you do not pull over…..You deserve whatever you get! Thank God the cop killed him before he injured or killed any innocent people….Nothing wrong here…

    • captainsgirl

      If you don’t care about his life, you sure don’t care about anyone elses.

  • PepperPatriot

    Guy should not have been evading, but that was murder.

  • Deb

    Wow you people need to get a grip that tape had lasted quite awhile so in other words they were pursuing him for a long time . This guy had no intention of pulling over at all. He’d speed & slow down …like it was some kind of game. He was going thru red lights , stop signs, driving in the wrong lanes. You don’t think that in and of itself is a danger??? What if he caused an accident that instead killed one of your family members ………then it would of been a different story. When in car chases they have the right to bump or force you off the road when apparent danger is an issue. I’m sure its the same on a bike. They had no intention to kill . It actually surprised me that he didn’t live thru the accident because it didn’t seem that bad at all. Of the course the idiot is not wearing a helmet either….that may have saved his life.

    • G’ma G

      Of course his driving was “dangerous” but a motorcycle vs. car on the highway in almost every case is less than lethal danger. Were any pedestrians run off the road? Who is the victim of this man’s action? Use your critical thinking skills. We do not arrest and certainly don’t harm people based on what if’s. This is exactly where our system has gone out of control–Justifying homicide over things that have not happened other than in someone’s overactive imagination.

      • Deb

        The only victim here was himself. Why is it that people just cannot do what the police ask?? Whether to pull over, put your hands up, get down on the ground ……..instead they run , fight or pull out a gun to shoot . This will most always results in THEM getting hurt!!!

        • G’ma G

          Why is it that people just cannot do what the police ask??

          FEAR

    • Ann

      Murder is forever. No one has the right to kill him because of this. Get his license number and arrest him later. This hard line right wing attitude makes people feel tough, but this could come back to bite you when it happens to someone you know.

      • Deb

        Prove that the police had every intention in killing that man!! That’s because they didn’t !! They bumped his bike in which he seemed to gain control over it ….however he lost control when he decided to squeeze thru another car and a curb . This incident was imply an accident. If they waited to arrest him later …they would of never found the guy.

        • Shannon Cruz

          Exactly! Only people who clearly didn’t watch the video or have a brain realize that. Had he had his helmet on

  • Tobaila Gib

    Did it not occur to the rider to simply pull over? He could have been man enough to accept he had committed an offence and paid his fine. But no he thought he would be clever and evade. He chose to ride like an idiot and is entirely to blame, not the officer.

  • Jason Trichlin

    Is farting in public a capital offence in usa yet? Wont be long i reckon…

  • Udo Weiss

    Sorry guys, I’ve been riding for 48 yrs, the guy was speeding. I had that many speeding fines collected I could have wallpapered my bedroom wall. I sped, I got busted, own it and take the fine. He’d still be riding the next day. RIP brother, but you fucked up.

    • Shannon Cruz

      Exactly not to mention he was speeding and not wearing a helmet?!

  • John C Carleton

    When are the people of the community, hanging the murdering scum?

  • CS

    The officer clearly caused that crash with the second bump. That’s vehicular homicide.

  • Michelle miller

    This cop should be arrested for murder

  • Ignatio

    Good riddance….blaming this on the cop is bullchit. Even after the 2nd bump, which was brought on by his recklessness, he could have slowed and avoided the crash. Instead he gunned it and tried a maneuver that killed him. Eff him.

    • Ann

      Republican, right?

      • Expat in UAE

        Dumbass right?

        • Ann

          Are you asking me if you are? Or, are you telling me you are?

    • Shannon Cruz

      Amen. Would have helped him to be wearing a helmet. Instead he wasn’t and decided to run from cops speed on his bike and cross over into the opposite lanes multiple times! He put his own life at risk period

  • Terry Cavanaugh

    pretty simple, im no fan of cops but if u decide to run 100 plus trying to outrun them then u accept the risks involved, i dont see where cop did anything but his job…

    • The Cat’s Vagina

      His job is not merely to chase down every single person and damn the consequences! His job could also have involved recording the guy’s license plate number and arresting him at home, both for speeding AND being an asshole.

      • larrymotuz

        Yes … and no one would have been killed by the cop doing that.

    • larrymotuz

      The risks involved should not include murder by cop.

  • MikeAT_ACW

    Just curious, why did the suspect run?

    • troye68

      I’m thinking there’s an unrelated offense in another jurisdiction and they can only comment on their officer’s actions in the chase.

  • troye68

    Free Thought Project: You need to get this unnecessary crap out of the way, It has NOTHING to do with the article. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/87ce606582bb64266da52f7ab76d5c1eba55225acdea6712b5b2ef210163f0e6.jpg

  • troye68

    “Minor Speeding Infraction”? No
    “Death Penalty Case”? No.

    Cop is an idiot, you can’t PIT-maneuver a motorcycle, but this is also way beyond the scope of a simple traffic case.

    Running in median.
    Going wrong way in oncoming lane.
    Running X# of red lights
    Risking public safety.

  • Bendy Bentley

    This pig should be reassigned to motorcycle duty, and his shift schedule should be made public, every day.

  • Steve V

    I would be interested to know the official “pursuit policy” of that department. The guy on the motorcycle didn’t seem to be endangering anyone but himself. In my opinion, the officer should have used the car to follow him and the radio to catch him. There was no apparent need for the officer to execute a pit maneuver on that subject right then and it was unsafe way past the point of recklessness to be that close, at that great speed. The results should have been entirely predictable. The officer demonstrated unnecessary use of force, negligent use of force and excessive force. Bad police work…

  • Bill

    Damn, why did the PIG cop kill him like that?

  • Not that the cop was right,, but in titling this.. “speeding” is far less of an offense than failure to comply.

    • Shannon Cruz

      Truth

  • Ann

    It used to be that police were not allowed to chase people at high speeds, let alone murder them. This type of vigilante behavior is a product of our new authoritarian state . We now see it in the airlines, grocery stores, everywhere. Anyone who is working anywhere is presumed the authority, regardless of how messed up they are. I tell you, it started with the banks and market failures in 2008. Instead of blaming those in charge, they got away with blaming the people and it worked. It gave them license to always blame the people.

  • Leo Anderson

    I know of one circumstance when a pig blew someone’s head off at point blank range. it was another pig in a training exercise at a public school in Arlington TX where only blanks were suppose to be used. HOORAH!!! to read and share stories like this, please visit my website northtexaslawreview.com and facebook page. north texas law review

  • Leo Anderson

    please watch this video of crooked oinker in wise co. texas
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRDo4vE9tGU

  • James Robertson

    No this is not Justice, a police officers Watch Commander can call off a chase anytime he wants, due to high traffic and a danger to the public. The crime does not negate a pit maneuver, misdemeanor crimes should never negate in someone deaths. Most people in a pursuit or high speed chase will back off, if the officer backs off. You never chase a person until his death unless it involves felonies. If there are no other vehicles on the road then you can proceed to capture misdemeanor speeding to allude arrest.

  • Richard

    And cops wonder why no one respects them anymore. This is outright Vehicular Homicide and I’m sure the cop is in his neighborhood bar right now bragging about how he got that “scumbag” veteran off HIS highway.

  • Sammy Tumminaro

    straight up MURDER!

  • Madmotorman™ ® The Mad Hatter

    OMFG!!!!

  • Greg Andrews

    MAN;THAT IS SOME FUCKED UP SHIT RIGHT THERE I TELL YA. 2 MORONS JAMMING DOWN THE ROAD.

  • Domina Elle

    In 1983 I witnessed a very similar case. Man on motorcycle speeding not stopping getting rammed to stop him- then after he got up and ran on foot (I was blown away he wasn’t killed) I witnessed half a dozen Tulsa cops beat the guy senseless. I began to protest what I was seeing nearby- and the closest cop put his weapon in my face and told me to fuck off. I was 16 at the time. I’m 50 now. I’ve seen many other incidents of police abuses and have been the victim of numerous police abuses.

    Once the discussion on police abuses was derailed into a discussion on racism- making it about something else- it was done. Many who were finally listening tuned out. Nothing is changing.

    Oh well. At least TFTP will have new stories to post.

  • Preston

    This guy played a role in his own death too…just stop when cops flash lights and you are driving 20 mph over limit. Besides, and this is presumptive, any guy willing to do this probably represents a risk to others anyways, because he’s plain crazy.

  • Robert Rock

    he should of just let him go… that was wrong even though the guy was breaking the law… If he would of just stopped he’d be alive today. So sad on both decisions. But the cop goes home to his family. No win for either.

  • Mark G. Taylor

    Don’t like it? Don’t run. When you run, you KNOW the chances of crashing are always there, along with the chances of injuring or killing innocent people. Just a minor speeding infraction? All the more reason for the guy to stop. If he is running, odds are he is hiding something else. Rational people don’t run, risking a felony conviction, just to avoid one speeding ticket. There is always something else going on, as there was in this case, also. If you get caught wrong, take it like a man, don’t run off risking innocent people’s lives just because you can’t handle the consequences of what you have done. He made his bed, now he gets to lie in it… forever. Why should anyone value his life when he gave SO little regard for innocent people around him?

  • Dianna Boullester

    Un fucking believable!! Not a single person (or canine) is safe from these pricks. I was raised to trust Mr. Policeman. Now we have to teach our children to NOT trust these gun packing murderous pieces of shit. There is so very much gone wrong with law enforcement in this country it makes me want to puke! I am not a cop hater & worry about the friends I have that are in law enforcement. We have to take back our streets from these lunatics

  • worldscam

    The video shows the cop was trying to pull this moron motorcycle speeder over for over 5minutes before gently ramming him so he wouldn’t affect other legally driving vehicles/humans. The idiot was gently bumped – then accelerated and crashed on his own by trying to go around a car on the right side of a car driving to the right of him and crashed into a curb. Cop had nothing to do with it. People are whacked- just making stupid comments without even watching the video.

  • Michael C

    If a guy on a motorcycle slams on his brakes in front of a car, there’s no way a car can stop in time.

  • wookitthecutewiddle

    We pay their salaries yet the zio-Jews’ ADL cabal pays to train US law enforcement .

    ADL Anti-Defamation League Provides Law Enforcement Training in … League Provides Training to Law Enforcement in South Carolina · ADL …

  • Frumpster

    actually the cop hit him twice if you watch the video, so I have no problems believing it was an intentional homicide.

  • yvette

    So this idiot cop endangers everyones life that he passed for a freaking speeding ticket? He was obviously wrong for what he did. I hope they are him and throw his ass in prison where it longs for what he did. But of course the police dept will at it was not his fault. I bet u if that he police chiefs brother they wouldnt be standing up for him. But that’s ok bc they will all pay for it day and that asshole has to live with it. I would say I hope he lives with that guilt but he obviously doesnt have a conscious!

  • yvette

    Michael White…and what does the LAW say about cops NOT pursuing motorists???

  • Glyn Mathison

    scum cop, he will get away with it though. you want to find him and see if he likes being rammed like he did..

  • Ibcamn

    coward cops,murdering a man for about 15 over the speed limit,just like the guy sitting in his car,just shoot em dead,deal with it later,or the lady the cop shoot 4 times in the back for wanting to light a cigerette,or the black guy following orders and getting shot in the lower back,or the kid on the bike talking on his cell phone,cop shot him in the back 4 times too,and th elist goes on and on,coward cop killing people for little to nothing…they ran the one guy over for dancing in the street and not listening to their demands,or the women running from the cops[she had a gun]but she didn’t poinyt it at them,most likely no bullets,and they just ran her over with the squad car,figured just kill her and write up some fake story,this is not the first cop to murder a man on his motorcycle,they did it to a friend of mine in wisconsin for having too loud a pipes on his harley….killed him dead somewhat like this,but there was a guardrail involved…..cops are the terrorists to look out for..americans are most likely to be murdered by a cop than an isis fighter…..wonder if the criminal[cop]that shot and murdered that 6 year old autistic boy was the same way,coward[most likely]olr the swat guy that shot the unarmed sleeping black girl[9 years old]right in the face,he feared for his life….wonder how they felt about the murders they committed on these days..i know several cops when asked just shrug their shoulders and say”idunno”or they say”slept like a baby”;wonder how well they would sleep if it was their child shot in the face point blank…..hmm…

  • Ben Solo

    The guy should have pulled over. You’re going 100 mph on residential streets trying to be Billy Bad Ass, no you’re fucking dead. It was clear the cop wasn’t backing off so either punch it to 150 mph and get away clean or pull over. You’re on a bike dummy. lol

  • jcf456

    Very sad and very unnecessary

  • warren

    This is one the most blatant displays of stupidity I’ve seen. Was the cop wrong for pursuing and ramming this guy? Absolutely, and he should be held responsible for his actions. However, the biker was just as stupid. He ran from the cop at over 100 MPH when all he had to do was pull his ass over. Either one of them could have prevented what happened. Too bad neither of them did.