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An ex-police Sergent tells how and why you should fight ALL speeding fines

“‘Indiscriminate revenue gathering’ It is absolutely disgusting. The government and the Police Force need to hang their heads in shame.”


My name is Stan. I am a retired Sergeant of the Police force for 14 years. I was also a police prosecutor at times, so I know what I am talking about. I spent half my life in Magistrates Court during my time in the Force. I was only ever a very fair copper, and I am proud of my time in the job, looking after the interests of citizens, often to the detriment of my family and my health.

I never booked any driver for a trifling offence “ever”. People committing trifling offences commonly used to get a warning and a licence / vehicle check. It had to be serious before I booked anyone.


I am so annoyed at what is happening these days, in what I call “Indiscriminate revenue gathering” It is absolutely disgusting. The government and the Police Force need to hang their heads in shame. If you did a survey of current serving members of the police forces in this country, you would be hard pushed to find many who disagree with me.

I know how the legal system works, and I know how to beat the system. This is how to do it, and if about 10% of all drivers booked follow my specific instructions, then the entire system will crash and become unworkable to the extent, that the government will have no choice but to stop issuing fines for every type of traffic offence. The whole lot of them. Seriously.

I do not feel guilty about coming out with this information, as I think it’s about time someone stood up for hard working, civil minded, law abiding taxpayers in this country, who are being screwed.

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This is very simple and very basic. The idea is to clog up the system in the traffic camera office and the courts by drivers exercising their rights to remain innocent until proven guilty.


1. Do not accept the alleged offence. There are numerous valid reasons to dispute every single alleged offence. Often the charges are incorrect or the evidence is illegally or incorrectly gathered.

2. Challenge it, tell them that you are going to defend the matter. Make them earn their miserable $150 or $200 or whatever. They have to prepare evidence and witnesses. Just the wages for the camera operator or the Policeman on the day of the court, will be more than the actual fine. You are also taking a camera operator or a member of the Police Force off the street for the day. But it won’t get to that point…..read on….

3. If a court date is ever set, and it does not suit you, do not accept it, ask for a delay to a time and place that suits you.

4. When they re set the date, delay it as often as possible. keep pleading not guilty all through the process. You have every right to be sick, or go for an adjournment if the day does not suit for any legitimate reason. For example you may have pressing family or work commitments which prevent you from attending a particular court on a particular day.

5. If it ever actually gets to court, (which is unlikely if everyone does this) and if you are unwell that day, ring the court in the morning and tell them that you cannot make it as you are sick. The camera operator, and a police prosecutor will already be at court, and will be greatly inconvenienced, by having to come back another day. The whole time this is going on, the amount of paperwork involved at the traffic camera office is huge. Several staff are involved, and it rapidly becomes very costly, probably running into thousands. …..with me so far…..keep reading…….

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6. The court system is then placed under such a massive load by people who wanted “their day in court” that it simply will not be able to cope unless they open up about another 50 magistrates courts, and this is obviously going to cost the government a lot more than any revenue raised. If all the above fails, which is highly unlikely….and you actually go to court and get convicted……you have a right of appeal. Make sure you appeal the conviction. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to see what happens. They are not going to spend millions chasing hundreds.

7 Tell everyone you know to challenge their alleged offences, and the entire system will crash within a few weeks.




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this isn’t hard to do, but it will help everyone.

The article originally published at Driftspec.org and although it is from our friends from across the pond, the information is invaluable as well as universally applicable.

  • Bernard Thompson

    I agree fully.thank you for the. Info.God bless.

  • Projectcop

    Wow, lol. This is about the worst advice ever, and would never work in most jurisdictions in Canada or the US. Not sure where the author is from (the UK?), but I would doubt they were law enforcement.

  • Dave

    Doesnt work. Tried all these things and just lost in court anyway. They wouldn’t grant me any continuances either.

    • Scott McGregor

      Thanks for the reality check (:

  • seth

    This has worked at least 3 times for me it was dropped immediately after I called the prosecutors office and stated that I was disputing the tickets

    • Sinead

      Hi Seth,

      Hiw did you go about doing this,and what country are you from? I’m from the UK myself so will be looking to do this.

      Thanks in advance Sinead.

      • seth

        Most of the time you will see a phone number on the citation you receive to call and inquire about your fine…That’s the number I called and I didn’t argue or make any sort of fuss I only stated that I did not agree with the citation and I would like to dispute it…she called the officer then returned a call to me saying don’t worry about paying it he dropped it. I’m from the US

  • News Reporter

    This is absolutely false information! You have to PROVE you cannot make it to court. You cannot just arbitrarily call to cancel your appearance, and do it last minute. They will keep scheduling you because it is not an inconvenience for them. You are a 5 minute blurb in front of the judge. You still can win. But you have to challenge the validity of the calibration of the speeding violation and officer’s current training. Know what you are doing before you go. Demand training and calibration evidence from the cop. But be aware, many judges don’t care and will violate your rights to find you guilty. Or they will just register you as “no contest”.

  • Karin Oh YeahWhateva Wilk

    My son in law got a speeding fine & when it came in the mail it had a different make & model of car he was driving on it. They had got the car in front of him for speeding but the officer pulled him over & gave him the fine. He disputed it with the traffic office & they said bad luck you have to pay……..its crap.

  • Poyzinsting

    This is very bad advice. In theory, yes, in reality, Not enough people will do it so those who do will lose. Make it a viral challenge and see what happens.

  • RichSpirit

    Always dispute the ticket… Yes!

    File a motion for dismissal.. There are templates online for how to do that which basically consists of a letter to the court which the ticket numbers on top, your reasons why you’re seeking a motion of dismissal and court cases to back up those reasons.

    What would be the reasons?… There are several, the first being that “traffic infractions are not a crime” – people vs battle.

    For a crime to exist there must be an injured party – Sherer v. Cullen 481 F. 945

    If the cop did not see you commit an actual crime, which does NOT INCLUDE speeding, running traffic lights or stop signs, no registration, etc… Then it’s Not a crime and the stop is automatically illegal and a false arrest as you were illegally prevented from your constitutional right if unrestricted free travel!

    Traveling in an automobile on the public roads was not a threat to the public safety or health
    and constituted no hazard to the public, and such a traveler owed nothing more than “due
    care” (as regards to tort for negligence) to the public and the owner owed no other duty to the
    public (eg. State), he / she and his / her auto, having equal rights to and on the roadways / high-
    ways as horses and wagons, etc.; this same right is still substantive rule, in that speeding, running stop
    signs, traveling without license plates, or registration are not threats to the public safety, and thus, are not
    arrestable offenses. Christy v. Elliot, 216 I 131, 74 HE 1035, LRA NS 1905 – 1910: California v.
    Farley 98 CED Rpt. 89, 20 CA 3d 1032 (1971).

    State Police Power extends only to immediate threats to public safety, health, welfare, etc., Michigan v.
    Duke 266 US, 476 Led. At 449: which driving and speeding are not. California v. Farley Ced. Rpt.
    89, 20 CA3d 1032 (1971):

    Furthermore, you car IS NOT A VEHICLE unless it’s used to make profit on the public highways. If you’re not a taxi driver, truck, bus, limo driver, then your NOT DRIVING, YOU’RE TRAVELING and are this outside police jurisdiction for traffic infractions. This means again that unless you’ve injured someone who is accusing you of a crime, and/or unless the cop SAW you commit the crime, he has NO RIGHT TO PULL YOU OVER at all!

    If your car is not a vehicle than what it is??… It’s consumer goods! This is what changes the jurisdiction from one if commerce (maritime/admiralty law) to one of common law (constitutional).

    The Supreme Court, in Arthur v. Morgan, 112 U.S. 495, 5 S.Ct. 241, 28 L.Ed.
    825, held that carriages were properly classified as household effects, and we see no reason that automobiles should not be similarly disposed of.” Hillhouse v United

    States, 152 F. 163, 164 (2nd Cir. 1907).
    Automobiles NOT classified as vehicles

    “Automobile purchased for the purpose of transporting buyer to and from his
    place of employment was “consumer goods” as defined in UCC 9-109.” Mallicoat vVolunteer Finance & Loan Corp., 3 UCC Rep Serv 1035; 415 S.W.2d 347 (Tenn. App.,1966).

    “The Right of a citizen to Travel upon the public highways and to transport one’s property thereon, either by carriage or automobile, is not a mere privilege, which a City may prohibit or permit at will, but a common right, which he / she has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

    We are further told in State v. Armstead, 60 s. 778, 779, and 781: that;

    The Right to Travel; The Right to Mode of Conveyance; The Right to Locomotion are all absolute rights, and the Police can not make void the exercise of rights.

    Nor can they pull you over without a valid complaining witness OR witnessing an actual crime of which speeding, running stop signs, no registration, inspection or insurance are Not crimes!

    That is what you put in your motion.

    Read this to see more supporting cases;