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Veteran’s Children Taken & Held Hostage by Govt Agents for Legally Treating his PTSD with Cannabis


Disabled Navy veteran Raymond Schwab moved to Colorado last year to free himself from addictions that grew out of the pharmaceuticals prescribed by the VA to treat his service-related physical and psychological injuries.

As Veterans for Medical Cannabis Access points out, medical cannabis is an effective treatment for veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), where other drugs fail. Veterans are successfully treating themselves despite the federal government’s prohibition.

Because Schwab is legally using medicinal cannabis in Colorado, officials in prohibitionist Kansas have abducted five of his children, ranging from 5 to 16 years of age.

The ransom demanded by the Kansas “child protection” bureaucracy is a promise that Schwab will refrain from using cannabis, and four months of “clean” urinalysis test results.

“They’re basically using my kids as a pawn to take away freedoms I fought for,” Schwab explained to the Denver Post. “It’s a horrible position to put me in.”

The family’s trauma originated in what could be called a “Pavlik Morozov-in-reverse” scenario. Morozov, a school-age youth living in Ukraine during the 1930s, was a member of the Soviet Young Pioneers who informed on his father to the secret police. Morozov’ father was arrested and murdered by the NKVD, and the youngster was honored by the Soviet regime as a “patriotic” exemplar whose loyalty to the state transcended filial piety. DARE programs notoriously promote a similar mentality within American schoolchildren, encouraging them to snoop through medicine cabinets in search of forbidden substances and call the police in the event any are found.

In the case of the Schwab family, the generational relationship was inverted. The Post relates that during a visit to Kansas the children’s material grandmother “took the kids to a police station in another county and reported them abandoned,” something she reportedly has come to regret.

Last April, a child abuse investigation cleared Schwab of harming his children in any way. Yet a judge has ruled that the children will remain in state control until Schwab and his wife foreswear any further legal use of cannabis.

Schwab’s case is somewhat similar to that of medical liberty activist Shona Banda, a resident of Garden City, Kansas whose 11-year-old son was also abducted by government officials after the youngster spoke out in school about the benefits his mother had experienced using cannabis oil to treat her otherwise intractable Crohn’s disease. The well-informed young man, displaying greater passion than discretion, shared his mother’s experience during a DARE presentation intended to indoctrinate him and his classmates to be informants in the service of drug war dead-enders.

Unfortunately, his mother hadn’t inoculated her son against trusting government officials who can exploit nearly any disclosure as a pretext for ruining the lives of people who have done no harm to others.

Displaying the punitive efficiency for which police states are notorious, “School officials contacted police, who searched [Banda’s] house and found marijuana and cannabis oil,” recounts the Kansas City Star. For using a beneficial substance that relieves the symptoms of her painful, inflammatory auto-immune disease, Banda has been charged with three felonies and two misdemeanors that could be used to steal up to thirty years of her life.

One alarming aspect of Schwab’s case that differs from Banda’s predicament is the fact that his marijuana use is entirely legal within the state in which he resides – yet officials in Kansas are using that benign conduct to justify seizing and detaining his children as hostages to use against him. Inventive cruelty of this kind can be expected from the kind of people who would cage others for making medicinal use of a plant.

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    • Tattoo Lovers Inappropriate post and your ass should be banned from FB for this.

  • Here come the tattoo pages and marijuana “salesmen”

  • This is the kind of BS you would see in the Christie administration

  • Figures, Kansas is an assbackwards state. Give back the kids you dickwads, as you are only harming them. Marijuana works much better for PTSD than pharmaceuticals!

  • American soldiers are still under the impression they fight for US freedoms? How unfortunate.

    • Regardless of what our views of that are or not, they did in fact sacrifice a great part of their life and family and are not taken care of like they should be. That’s the most unfortunate part.

    • u.s. corporation not the free american ppl

    • Sarah Price they became subjects of the u.s. corporation if it does not take care of its employees when its done with them you would think ppl would wake up to the lie

  • Get the hell outta that state. RUN

  • Bastards.

  • because you didn’t fight for freedom, you fought for the same criminal empire that fucked you….

  • why can’t you just move to cali?

    • They live in Colorado, its legal there but apparently they left the kids in Kansas with their grandmother.

  • Move to Colorado

  • US Gov – vigilant in all the wrong places.

  • “to take away freedoms I fought for” Your first mistake is believing you fought for anything but political ambition…

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  • muh freedumbs

  • I don’t get it.
    If it is legal then it is legal.
    Since when is it legal to detain children without cause?
    America is a Weird country.

  • B.S. Such BS. Fuck you Kansas. The storm is coming. Conservatives better start running or they will be left in the dust….oh yeah, that is Kansas, dust and old farmers afraid of the facts and the future…

  • Thats heartbreaking.

  • How is this even happening? ! Have we truly grown that blind and cold as a society where we allow government entities to slowly take away our freedoms?

    • Its not that a single person is cold or blind. Its that a single person usually doesn’t have the power to affect these things, that’s why we have rules and agencies, and THOSE are cold, blind and unsympathetic. “Just following the rules.” We should make an entire set of new rules instead of patching old ones one by one for the profit of those already in power.

    • Welcome to the United States of Corporate America, thanks US government

    • Best meme I’ve seen.

    • I’m sick and tired of all the bullshit they feed us on the hill while taking bribes and lobbyist money.

    • You are not alone in that boat.

    • they will continue til we have someone in office that can make a difference. Bernie Sanders 2016 for me.

  • Gotta love red states

  • I am a sixty year old veteran with PTSD and Depression. I have run the gammet of anti-depressents and had so many side effects that several times I had to take another pill to counteract them! I stopped taking all those pills and just use cannabis. The only side effect I have had in three years of continuious use is a desire to raid the fridge! I have not had one episode or outburst in that time, and have never felt better.

  • This is getting a lot of attention. I’ve seen it on many venues.

  • This what Chris Christie wants when he says we should ignore State’s Rights. Same for Cruz.

  • Again, I have nothing to add but ugly, angry cussing…. so I Liked (even though I don’t) …Commented….. and Shared…..

  • A veteran is once again being asked to risk his life for the benefit of the Corporatocracy. This time with his family taken as hostage.

  • Geneviève Vézina-Tardif c’est juste dégueux comme histoire. Je ne sais pas pour qui ils se prennent les représentants de la loi au Kansas, mais ils sont allés trop loin

    • Wtf… C’est con … Tu peux juste pas utiliser les lois d’un autre endroit pour punir quelqu’un! Ça n’s aucune logique et c’est complètement cruel!

    • Je sais j’ai lu d’autres articles au sujet de cette famille et le juge est un imbécile qui croit que sa façon d’interpréter la loi est meilleure que les lois elles – mêmes ça fait peur

    • Omg.. Donc même la justice n’est pas de leur côté… C’est triste!!

  • So, is the U.S.A. still the ‘land of the free’?

  • Ridiculous

  • Hang in there . God bless .thx for your service. .

    • I don’t think that god blesses people who help the obscene military industry to terrorize and murder his precious children.

    • Ann ..listen ..I’m all about ..the truth ..how u.s.a killing ..women & kids ..all around the world. ..infact ms.its all part Agenda 21,..
      N.w.o … Albert pike. .morals &dogma …what’s going on in the world. ..all part of freemasonry. ..giver of light. .lucifer ..as he states in the book ..all the past world wars ..all lies ..

    • Ann Wagner .ms we have to always support are troops..& are Vets …they on the front lines ..killing ppl for are freedom ..
      Do I support big banks ..no ..who make $$$ on both sides ms…
      I don’t support Congress sending poor mid western kids to go fight for lies..under a N.w.o. .
      Send there kids ..
      So much wrong ..where to start ….I say clean house .. bank accounts. .big wall Street $$ ..backing law makers ..for more time for a crime to keep the prisons full ..
      Bankers Richer ..PLS feel free to frd me ..in like way u think ..ms ,Ann …PLS keep up the work …
      Thank you for inlighting me …but I’m fully Awake ..over here .ms ..God bless you too .& yours .

  • Fucking horrible, just fucking horrible

  • Time to change this shit forever

  • “freedoms I fought for”? WTF? No one in the obscene military industry fights for freedom. They service profiteers and psychopaths.

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    When the page first loaded it said 60 comments…where are they?