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Media Refusing to Cover Numerous Witness Accounts of Multiple Shooters in Orlando Massacre

As mainstream media headlines begin to solidify around the narrative a single shooter was responsible for the carnage at Pulse nightclub in Orlando on Sunday, details calling the now-official story into question must be addressed.

While no doubts can be raised Omar Mateen, indeed, played a role in the attack, eyewitness accounts — while varied and certainly subjective, considering the chaos unfolding at the time — don’t unanimously agree he acted alone.

“I mean, I’m pretty sure it was more than one person,” witness Janiel Gonzalez told a bevy of reporters. “Like I said, I heard two guns going off at the same time,” he continued, gesturing back and forth with his fingers indicating the gunfire emanated from separate directions.

Further, he explained, panicked clubgoers had difficulty locating exits during the shooting, which he estimated lasting eight minutes — plenty of time for the shooter(s) to reload multiple times. When Gonzalez and others finally found a door hidden behind a curtain,

“There was probably like 50 people trying to jump over each other just trying to exit the place, and there was a guy holding the door. The guy was holding the door and not letting us exit.”

When they asked why he was blocking their only way out — as the shooting seemed to be drawing near — Gonzalez said the man told them, “No, you guys have to stay inside. Stay inside.” Desperate, the group demanded he move to give them safe passage — but the man’s steadfast refusal to do so provoked a serious question.

As Gonzalez explained, the fact there was a semi-automatic rifle, and not a handgun, employed in the shooting, he realized this must be a hate crime — and then he “put two and two together, and I was like, this guy’s trying to prevent us from leaving the club. Maybe they’re working together.”

Fox News’ Megyn Kelly actually interviewed the man, Luis Burbano, who admitted to blocking the exit, asking, “You were holding the doors so that the shooter could not get out, but was there any concern that, you know, you might be keeping the people fleeing the shooter from getting out?”

“Yeah, um … yeah. That was on my mind. There was banging, there was pushing on the door. That was on my mind; but at that point in time, I just tried doing what I thought would be best at that moment,” because, as he explained, the door opened into an alleyway which was extremely narrow and would have created a juggernaut. Burbano also worried he might be opening the door to the shooter, so felt by holding it shut, he would prevent the attacker’s escape.

So, while Burbano’s actions were perhaps motivated by ‘doing the right thing,’ he directly endangered the lives of others trapped inside. Was he working in concert with the attacker or attackers? Probably not. Should he face consequences for blocking one of the only safe means for people to escape an active shooter? Without a doubt.

As for the description possibly more than one shooter had been involved, Gonzalez actually wasn’t alone.

A second witness described in an interview aired on the Today Show, It had to have been more than one person, too, because [the gunfire] was just too continuous … It’s like you’re at a gun range and all you hear is just, BOOM, bang, bang … I can’t even describe it.”

In footage captured by multiple witnesses outside the club, police appear to be engaging in an exchange of gunfire with an unknown subject. Mateen, however, was killed inside the club, according to most accounts.

“They’re shooting back and forth,” the person taping video can be heard saying over a volley of gunfire in the background. “Oh. My. God. They’re all shooting back and forth.”

Could this also lend credence to accounts of multiple attackers?

Yet another eyewitness to the massacre has come forward to describe the events for ABC News’ 20/20 — and his detailed account could be critical. After Mateen collected the hostages’ phones, according to the witness, he called either law enforcement or a news station and said, “America needs to stop bombing ISIS … in Syria.”

“Then he called somebody else that he knew,” the man recalled, “and he mentioned that he was the fourth shooter, and there was [sic] three others, and mentioned, I believe a female name, that was playing dead and she has a bombing vest and he has one, too. And then he said there was three snipers out there waiting for cops to come so the snipers would shoot at the cops.”

And even another witness to the events has described the situation as one of multiple shooters. Noting the sheer number of gun shots ringing out, the witness was asked by Infowars, “So, you believe there was more than one gunman there?”

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“I believe that,” the young man replied, “because that’s kind of impossible, to me, for one person with two handguns firing off.” He also described seeing Mateen’s picture on social media, and said the suspect central to the investigation did not appear to have the physical build to employ the two weapons necessary to account for the barrage of gunfire he heard.

“He couldn’t manage to fire off two guns,” he surmised.

Decide for yourself, as always, what such accounts — which contradict the now-uniform mainstream narrative — might mean.

But remember, as well, questioning what you’re being spoon fed by the government and corporate media is in no way disrespectful of the victims. Rather, it is out of respect for the dead and injured that appropriate parties be held accountable — and factual accuracy is imperative in order that justice be served appropriately.

  • john smith

    they sit and watch all you alternative media outlets and create witnesses to answer there being caught doing somthing ..like the entire someone held the door thing being cut off live…you guys need to start getting smarter about waiting with the information and let them trap themselves(msm)

    • disqus_s4n9NxE7Bi

      very true. our speculations –> “new” footage or interview or video put out by them to quell any questions

  • Jeff Rosenberg

    I note this article completely ignores the well-documented fact that an off-duty police officer was pulling security in front and engaged the terrorist at the beginning of (and perhaps throughout) the attack, which would explain the increased rate of fire and multiple locations of gunfire.

    • Braveheart

      i’ve seen you many times here rosenberg, every time trying to somehow justify the status quo position and stop any critical thinking with made up arguments out of ur ass. you’re a shitty troll, and a shitty argument inventor, gtfout of here, no one is buying what you’re peddling!

      • Jeff Rosenberg

        Actually, I believe this was my first time posting here. The power of my observation must have overwhelmed you into thinking I’d spoken many times before and rocked your world to the point of needing to comment and launch spurious insults to drive me away. Umm … pretty sure that means you’re the troll, even if this is your home turf.

        • Braveheart

          keep telling yourself that rosenberg, anyone who calls you out must be overwhelmed by your immense “power of observation” looool what a sad little narcissist! What you do is the opposite of “observation”, your job entails destroying any real critical thinking based on obvious facts with made up half baked ideas that present the “possibility of existence” of a rebuke as a definite fact, while the most obvious ones screamng at you through many witnesses and video cameras are irrelevant. you are sad, i have seen you, “Jeff Rosenberg” here multiple times, being a troll, trying to defend the status quo position, and your time, your efforts, and your life are entirely wasted.

  • Gene

    It’s possible they’re wagging the dog to divide attention from the voter fraud????

    • VARAKIENEN

      Bingo.
      Ive been mentioning this from the start.

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    • Dave Romyn

      Of course… because the ‘logical’ choice for covering up voter fraud would be to have multiple shooters enter a gay nightclub and shoot lots of people… but they must make sure that the media only reports that there was one shooter, because reasons.

      • Gene

        How about that sheep? There was a guy holding the door and there’s now a second suspect.The guy was also an homosexual, nothing wrong with that, it adds to the motive. The only thing tying him to Isis is a phone call he made to 911. Is that all it takes? Do you know how stupid you are? Stupid people don’t know they’re stupid.

        • Lou

          Who his own father is does not tie him in???? I guess that is stupid then.

    • Brann moonet

      I agree, the people running the show aren’t very trustworthy

    • disqus_s4n9NxE7Bi

      yes.

    • gerry d welder

      Orlando cover up about multiple shooters exposed!

      Listen to the shooting recording for yourself, no doubt:

      LiveLeak.com – Orlando Shooting – Multiple Shooters? Pulse …

      http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0d3_1465989284

      Orlando Shooting – Multiple Shooters?

      If it’s not about ‘one lone wolf’, guns and the 2nd amendment, but it’s about Islamic terrorist cells in the United States carrying out attacks, it ruins their narrative to dis arm US citizens, so they are covering up the facts.

    • gerry d welder

      … and as Obama is flooding hundreds of thousands of military aged Muslim males into the USA and pushing to dis arm Americans

      Megan Kelly SHUTS DOWN a panelist: Obama is NOT a Muslim (minute 2:20)
      https://youtu.be/bIa-eUE-tnc

      Still Report #427 – Is Obama a Muslim?
      https://youtu.be/M75qSoTS-M8

      Still Report #367 – More on Obama & the Muslim Brotherhood
      https://youtu.be/YnQonCwvbBc

      Still Report #281 – Is Obama a Sunni?
      https://youtu.be/JdtD7qf5btQ

      … get it yet?

      So Megan KNOWS Obama is not a Muslim? Stick a fork in her.


      This video is years old, the percentages have since increased everywhere, can you recognize the trend happening in the USA?

      WHAT ISLAM IS NOT
      http://youtu.be/VEXWjlgJ83E

    • gerry d welder

      And this is why it won’t be stopped by our government in the USA:

      What do we know at this point:
      -The Islamization of American schools, Google it (too much to list here).
      Example:
      “I am waging a Bloodless Revolution in America’s Public Schools…” – Shabbir Mansuri (Founder and Director of the Council on Islamic Education).

      Google:CIE, Textbook Publishers Promote Islam in America’s Classrooms |
      Aug 10, 2011 …

      -The FBI dropping Islam from it’s list of terrorists while expanding ‘domestic’ definitions. Your probably on the list.

      -NASA tax funded Muslim outreach mandate.

      -US taxes rebuilding and renovating mosques AROUND THE WORLD (much of that money has been re-routed back to America? (mosque building in the USA has gone up surpassing 70% since Obama took office, wow – coincidence?

      -International effort to make criticism of Islam illegal in the USA, supported by Obama and, yep – Hillary Clinton. Google it.

      -CIA Director John Brennan alleged to have converted to Islam

      -Ex Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel alleged to have converted to Islam. What’s his replacements belief? And not a WORD about those 11 (that’s ELEVEN!) ‘missing’ jumbo jets?

      -7 BILLION US tax dollar project to build a NEW power grid for (Muslim) Africa while the US power grid deteriorates and is vulnerable to EMP attacks.

      -6 Muslim Brotherhood ‘advisers’ in Obama Administration.

      -Muslim Brotherhood infiltrates top Gov. positions, yep, Google it

      -Muslim Brotherhood agent Andre Carson appointed to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) and now can deem his activities and information as ‘classified’.

      -Muslim Brotherhood MPAC Trains TSA to give Muslims VIP pass, Google it.

      -New York Police Department Ramps Up Recruitment Of Muslim …

      -Release from Gitmo of 5 of the most dangerous Taliban commanders.

      -Botched US attempt to trade kidnapped Benghazi ambassador Stevens for the Blind Sheikh. The same operation was also used to ship US “heavy” weapons to al Qaeda, ISIS or as the name keeps changing ‘Da’ish’ . Google it.

      “I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
      – James Madison

    • gerry d welder

      Ex-Gitmo Islamic commanders hopping on UPS flights to the USA?

      What is happening in the USA is an Islamic infiltration and seizure of authority at all US federal agencies. Most Americans are totally oblivious to our new unfolding reality that is quietly, steadily, purposely and with increased momentum, taking control over all aspects of our country.

      When Obama said we are no longer a Christian nation, his intention is to insure it and enforce Sharia compliance and it is happening in a gradual but sustained manner (purposely without fanfare).

      The US federal government has been usurped by globalists and manufactured the chaos that is now in Europe.

      They are successfully importing it into the USA to destroy it from within.

      American citizens, along with the Russians and Chinese, are now the enemy of our own federal government.

      Refugees Being Snuck Into US On UPS Flights Under Cover of Darkness?
      https://youtu.be/QBo8hXuj-eM

      Still Report #476 – Snopes Covers For UPS
      https://youtu.be/k_U-72o4j0Y

      UN slams airstrike on water treatment facility in Syria’s Aleppo
      https://youtu.be/s9EEYtfCPpk

      Will that create more refugees? … yep, that’s the plan. Then Putin will be blamed for the consequences.

      14.02.2016
      Evidence Shows US Helping ISIL to Survive in Iraq
      by Mario Andrijasevic exclusively for SouthFront

      “Under the pretext of fighting the Takfiri terrorist group the US and its allies airdrop weapons and food for the ISIL terrorists”

      Even down to municipalities:

      New York Police Department Ramps Up Recruitment Of Muslim …
      pamelageller.com/2015/06/new-y……

      Move to Canada? Nope:

      Still Report #488 – Is Canada’s New PM a Radical Muslim?
      https://youtu.be/SbRLqUDQnYE

    • gerry d welder

      Especially if you’re a woman or of the LBGT community you should panic now, before the rush.

      The LBGT community, feminists and liberals love to attack Christian and conservative values, well they’re all about to get something else and it is coming like a freight train.

      Judeo-Christian America and US sovereignty are being destroyed in a sustained, systematic undermining while a federal Islamic totalitarian police state is taking over.

      “Heard an ex CIA agent, Jim Garrow say he overheard him tell some ambassador years ago that they planned to have America Islamized by 2016.” – You can thank all democrats and all neo-con progressives (all RINOs).

      Gays, Lesbians and Transgenders are murdered by the state in most Muslim majority countries.

      … and the LBGT community, feminists and liberal progressives are clueless and continue to attack and try to force Christians to abandon their religious beliefs in the name of tolerance.

      Still Report #852 – German Muslim Explains the Invasion
      https://youtu.be/U-50o5fccOs

      What is happening in Euro is already being systemically imported into the USA and Canada …. THE END

      Germany Crosses the Demographic RUBICON: 20-35’s a MINORITY by 2020
      https://youtu.be/dF9V8POmuxg

      And soon in the USA:

      “Now understand clearly:
      America is his enemy and he does mean to defeat us!”

      Still Report #866 – Obama is Still Planting Seedling Muslim Towns
      https://youtu.be/TD3Uh66YroM

      Obama’s Al-Hijra: Immigration Stealth Jihad
      Al-Hijra « Refugee Resettlement Watch
      https://refugeeresettlementwat

    • CheenaEagleGraham

      OMG! what a horrible thought! do ppl really believe any part of the govt would do this?

      • Ken

        YES!

    • kdk

      I’ve been in situations where I’ve seen somebody try to kill someone and thought I was about to die. They don’t seem like people who just saw a bunch of death.

    • FAIL_TR0LL

      No, it’s more sinister than that. They are trying to remove semi-automatic weapons from the US Citizens. Why? That’s the REAL question. They want you to be un-armed when the US economy collapses and the Government takes over. You’ve been warned.

  • Dave Romyn

    I’m not sure who’s dumber… the person who comes up with this nonsense, or the one who believes it.

    Why would the media ‘cover up’ if there were multiple shooters? The ridiculous conspiracies that get paraded around by c-grade media following these tragedies to drum up a bit of page traffic really do disrespect the victims of this. Please don’t.

    • Gene

      The sheep has spoken. The media tells the truth and that’s it. Thanks.

      • Dave Romyn

        Oh, that’s cute. The guy who immediately believes some nonsense alt-news source that’s reporting the same BS that alt-news sources always report after one of these tragedies (that are always false)… is calling someone else a ‘sheep’ for pointing out that it does not make any sense at all for the media to not report if there were multiple shooters.

        Because ‘freethoughtproject’ is the ONLY media source that isn’t directly controlled by the government (or illuminati, or whatever your preferred conspiracy is)… is that right?

        • ♓Ξ▲ѴƳ Ƙ∆RM∆~Ð∈ßϯ SᏝ▲V∈

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          Conspiracy – a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful
          Theory – a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something
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          Conspiracy crimes that are federal can include conspiracy to engage in criminal activity such as money laundering, conspiracy to violate federal laws, or conspiracy to manufacture drugs or weapons.
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          The end may be legal, but the planned means are illegal. For example, two persons making a plan to steal bread from a supermarket (illegal) to donate to a local food bank (legal) would be guilty of conspiracy.
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          • Jonathan A Pickens-Rooney

            The proper term is “Truth Seeker” not conspiracy
            Theorists.

        • Why did you create a profile just so recently troll @daveromyn:disqus?

        • anon

          explain what heavy said

        • Aaron Sinclair

          I think he was being sarcastic bro

        • missythemissmiss

          Did you watch the videos of witnesses?

          • disqus_s4n9NxE7Bi

            can you send me links please? i’ve only seen 1 or 2

          • missythemissmiss

            Go to YouTube, then type “Orlando shooting, victims, survivors, witnesses” in the search bar.

    • VARAKIENEN

      Because they are Owned, and ordered to. The same people in ownership also contribute to Hillery campaign and agenda. which is to get rid of guns. Thats How a false flag works. It will focus on so called terrorists, and guns, directing fear at those two as an issue, so that new unconstitutional laws can be passed that take away More of your freedoms rights and privates, as well as your guns, While allowing them to feed the war machine with money, and send it at countries to invade, conquer, rape resources and install companies and Rothschild central banking system to control their economy. Media companies are owned by those same corporations, and there is billions in it for them. Now, if for some reason you still don’t believe in false flags and Just how Far they can and will go to get what they want at any expense, please google world trade tower 7. Which fell straight down at free fall speed, with out having been hit by a plane or jet fuel weakening support columns, (which would ALL have to be weakened exactly the same and very precisely at once) It was very Very clearly demolitions which takes weeks to successfully install. not hours. Then, when you have SEEN the evidence and proofs with your own eye’s you can start asking about the other buildings, which also feel straight down ward in free fall speed, the pentagon which had NO 757 wreckage, and why many many witness’s said it looked like a grey military plane with a bulge on its belly. If they can do it and get away with it at 9/11, then ask your self Could they, WOULD they do it on smaller scale else where for their propaganda purposes? Thats where your journey into the truth of whats happening Begins.

      • Dave Romyn

        Of course… the government controls all media (because the internet and foreign media are things that don’t actually exist)… and it’s all a conspiracy to take away guns (or voter fraud… or whatever your favourite flavour of conspiracy is today). They sent multiple shooters into a gay club, because reasons, but the media must only report there was one person… also because reasons. Even though there were literally hundreds of people in the venue who would see that there were multiple shooters, nobody will ever contradict the story, because the media said there was one shooter.

        Much like the government deliberately flew planes into buildings, but decided that they also needing to demolish that building (using magical explosives that leave no trace), because the plane-hitting-building thing wouldn’t achieve the same effect as having it demolished as well… because reasons.

        • nancy nelson

          Dave, just give it a try. Go watch one debunking 9/11 video and then come back and discuss. Do you know what planes are made of? Light weight aluminum. They have to be to fly. Do you know what the twin towers are made of? Reinforced concrete and steel. Do you know what happens when something made of light weight aluminum hits something made of steel and concrete? It crumbles and falls to the ground. What happened with the planes on 9/11? They cut through the buildings like a knife through melting butter. Impossible. Just that fact alone makes 9/11 a hoax. The planes were CGI.

          • Reuben

            I have watched those videos and came to the conclusion that someone needs to lay off the acid. Do you know anything about what speed does to even lightweight aluminum? It’s still a bullet. The plane still weighs a lot. Much higher than the break rating on those windows. Jet fuel when compressed at the rate that a plane that size stopping at once would create will burn hotter than just dumping some in a barrel and throwing in a match. It will burn hotter than the melting point of steel. CGI technology wasn’t good enough at that time to create that accurate of an image and it also doesn’t account for the eyewitnesses from neighboring buildings. I could go on more but you’ve already stopped reading and dropped another hit of acid haven’t you? Al Qaeda caused 9-11. Get over it already.

          • Jackie Chiles

            The plane never touched trade tower 7 genius I think you missed the point.

          • Lou

            Jackie…don’t bother explaining bldg. #7 its not worth it .

          • ggetaclue
          • ggetaclue

            kerosene (jet fuel essentially) : Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). And once the fuel is exhausted it can’t reignite itself.

          • windows r so hard

            CGI is a bit of a stretch.

          • Dave Romyn

            This is, hands down, one of the nuttiest threads I’ve seen in a while. The sorts of people who believe this sort of thing (conspiracy theorist, being a person who theorises about conspiracies, is the correct term) are nothing if not predictable. 9-11 was an inside job, I’m a sheep (ignorant, blind, whatever), and someone’s even referenced the matrix.

            Over 24hrs have passed since the initial story. More stories have come out from the initial attack… including those from independent and/or foreign news sources. No mention of multiple shooters. Do you honestly and sincerely believe that the government (that could do nothing about the NSA leaks, or any number of other extremely embarrassing leaks over the years) has done a false-flag operation with multiple shooters in a crowded club, and none of the survivors have thought to mention this fact to either the foreign media, or on social media?

            It’s always hilarious, being told to ‘open your mind’ by people who believe literally any nonsense that fits with their beliefs, and will dismiss out-of-hand anything that does not.

        • Radi

          Please mr. Sheep, take a big needle, and pop that fuckin bubble you live in. It really is unbeleivable how ignorant you are!? Are you getting payed to post on here?… you probably are… But do not worry mr. sheep, your and our time will also come. Then mr. sheep we will see who is right and who is wrong. Now go eat some of that GMO grass

        • Jackie Chiles

          Let me help you figure it out genius. If you haven’t noticed, there is a big push to restrict weapon purchases in this country and every time a public shooting occurs the drum beat gets louder. One single shooter killing 50 people and injuring over 100 is going to make their case better than multiple shooters in getting public and political support for weapon control. Now when you’ve had your fill of trolling and being a simple minded lemming, let us get back to some meaningful dialogue.

          • Gordon

            I’m genuinely curious on your thoughts then. Do we truly have a problem with public shootings in America? If so what do you think we should do about it? It’s a complicated issue so not necessarily a one and done solution, but where should we start?

          • Jackie Chiles

            I don’t own a gun Gordon so I may not be the best person to ask. My opinion is that it’s too late already there are so many guns in circulation that even if we start restricting sales now it’s not going to do much to prevent people bent on murdering from getting a gun on the black market if they can’t obtain one legally. That said I’d support some common sense restrictions on assault rifles but the NRA has an endless amount of money invested in making sure that doesn’t happen. I think in nutshell guns have been around for a century and that the problem is civic and political.

            What I suggest we start doing is stop bombing other countries we aren’t at war with and inciting terrorist activity, that would be a start. I would ask Obama to stop making comments and passing laws that incite civic unrest in relation to LBGT and racism. I would make our society more inclusive for law abiding peaceful Muslims.

          • VARAKIENEN

            you saved me some typing mate.

        • lionswimmer

          What’re you talking about? The explosives DID leave a trace. And then, all evidence for THE LARGEST CRIME AGAINST AMERICA in history, was forbidden to be investigated and was immediately shipped to China, of all places!!! Total cognitive dissonance re: legal process and criminal justice system.

        • ggetaclue
      • nancy nelson

        Absolutely true. And the “plane” that hit the pentagon. LOL COMPLETELY disintigrated. No plane parts, no suit cases, no bones, body parts BUT the pilots drivers license somehow made it. LOL

        • ggetaclue

          don’t forget, they were able to identify the Pentagon victims by their DNA, which means that for some reason, everyone on board the “plane” that “hit” the Pentagon had their DNA on file with NCIC. ..or some other government agency…

    • jamshaman

      Asking a “why” doesn’t answer the initial question. In other words, there could be multiple answers as to “why” the media would do a cover up, but that doesn’t answer the question of whether or not there were multiple shooters.

      • Dave Romyn

        If you’re going to actually try and decide what stories are possibly true, and what stories are conspiritard nonsense written to get clicks from gullible people… then ‘why’ is a critical question to ask. The simplest solution is probably the right one, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you consider every possible story as true, then that’s not being open minded… that’s being gullible.

        What could possibly be achieved by reporting there was only one shooter instead of multiple shooters? If there is no reasonable answer to that question, then the story based on (very flimsy) first-hand accounts is probably bollocks.

      • Braveheart

        Disregarding that retarded failed CIA troll just above me, thank you Jamshaman for asking a real question and opening up a real debate. In my experience with the news/media, especially the classic MSMBS of the US today, they often choose to take or ignore any given story very very selectively. One of the MAIN and biggest factors is if there is ANY muslim connection. If a guy looks, sounds or even has an arab or muslimc sounding name, they’re all over that, and they stay on that for months, going back to it at any given excuse. My guess is this guy was the only muslim guy in the gang, and they either didn’t catch the others or they just didn’t belong to an ethno-racial divide they usually target. probbly jewish sounding names or smthg.. Either way anything this MSMBS says, you’d have much more chance falling on the truth if you instinctively believe the exact opposite of what they said 90% of the time..

        • arnlee00

          When you start pealing the layers off the onion (onion being the matrix we were born into) layer by layer you start seeing the delusion. It is only for the seeker of truth which is the great divide within humanity.

    • nancy nelson

      There are only six media outlets, all controlled by the upper crust. They tow the line and do what they are told. They want just one out of control crazy because its easier to control than a whole militia of men shooting. That would be an act of war. Action would need to be taken. As this was our government doing this, they do not want anybody to know that there were many shooters.

    • anon

      prove its a conspiracy, then we can ALL talk

    • imoffendedthatyoureoffended

      US Government enforced media blackouts happen on a regular basis. From the Japanese fire balloon attacks on US soil during WW2 to journalists’ being held hostage by taliban, it’s a well-documented fact that the government silences the media on a regular basis.

      Now, go do your homework…. Knowledge is power.

    • Ken Azure

      You sir are an idiot. You do know who owns the media companies right?

    • c_chandler

      the media lie, often at the behest of obama, police, powerful persons…

    • windows r so hard

      #wrecked

    • ggetaclue

      “Why would the media ‘cover up’ if there were multiple shooters?” because they are trying to sell the “lone gunman” Jihadi story.

  • Paisley Paisley

    Another way to view this version of the narrative would be an attempt to spin another meaningless U.S. mass killing into a terrorist event by planting “witnesses” to put that narrative forward. Since Disinfowars is one of the sources, I’d lean towards that view. It kills me how fast alt media feel they need to react with a counter-vailing narrative to every major event. No matter what reality lies behind the events, the media utilizes it for it’s own purposes. Facts have a way of getting lost in the media circus( including the alt media circus).

  • Nine Inch Nail

    Yeah, we all know eyewitness accounts in those situations are one hundred percent reliable.

  • Jeffrey Quave

    crazy that the CIA is already trolling this comment thread

    • To paraphrase the great bard of Avon, “the govt doth protest too much…………..”

    • 2broke4 her

      NSA !!

  • Independent

    Pure speculation from people cowering in fear…

  • Naiya Cassidy

    The single-shooter scenario is logistically impossible .

  • HoobieSlaw

    Its pretty obvious what needs to be done here. We need BIGGER and more POWERFUL guns and lots of them and less restrictions on who can own them. Maybe just give them away to everyone that turns 21.

    • CelticBrewer

      True- the AR-15 is a weak gun. A caliber so small, it’s banned from hunting because it can’t take down game in a humane way.
      I guarantee that if everyone had a gun, you’d see a lot less USE of guns and a lot more respect for each other. Sure, maybe that’s _forcing_ people to be nice to each other, but obviously it’s not happening organically.

      • c_chandler

        it wasn’t an AR-15

        • everything i have heard says it was. if it was not, then what kind was it?

      • windows r so hard

        #mandatorycarry

    • windows r so hard

      I’m in favor of mandatory carry:

  • For those of you too young to remember:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ifndJ2lQY&ab_channel=911operationgladio

    This is not the first time the govt has been unable to cover-up the second “gunman”

    • kdk

      Since then, they’ve gotten a lot better at getting reporters into the media who parrot without thinking. Once the FBI came in to give us the official story for Orlando, all pieces not part of the official narrative don’t get any camera time. So, right there you have the names of some people complicit in some of these atrocities, or somebody they know is feeding them the information to then give to the media to unthinkingly parrot.

  • CelticBrewer

    “After Mateen collected the hostages’ phones,” Why? No doubt someone had already called the police. What is the purpose of collecting the phones? A terrorist would want people recording the incident or calling loved ones in a panic. The only reason would be if someone wanted to cover up what actually happened.
    Plus, how did he have time to collect phones if it was just him? Did he do that first, place his call to the media, then kill everyone in the “8 minutes” of this event? There’s not enough bullets in the magazine to kill everyone at one time. If you had nothing left to lose, wouldn’t you jump him at that point?
    How convenient is this for the media that the shooter had a muslim name, and the victims were gay? And now the non-muslim appears to be gay, himself? It all makes me wonder what we’re being distracted from. Another TPP agreement going into place?

    • Vooch

      how many shots were fired into building by the cops outside ?

      • windows r so hard

        A lot from what I hear.

      • 2broke4 her

        it has come out that the cops killed some of the people.. but they are trying to cover that up!

        • disqus_s4n9NxE7Bi

          And what about the “off-duty” cop working as a bouncer inside the club— how many shots did he fire? how many were killed because of his sloppy aim?

          • 2broke4 her

            I was just reading the part about the guard and a couple of swat cops missing.. and how the Muslim, ISIS supporting, gay, not gay attacker had free range of people to shoot at and why none of the victims rushed the guy since he was within arms length of shooting them.. to scared to defend themselves, It’s best go out trying to be a hero and fighting for your life, than a fish in a barrel shoot.. it also makes one wonders if the cops killed more, than he did..!

      • kdk

        You can also hear an assault rifle returning fire. So in the official account was Mateen indoors the whole time or outside exchanging fire with police before going back inside… which, how then did he manage to keep hostages? I really hope the second shooter got nailed by the police somehow. These could also be our favorite mercenary group, Blackwater, returned to home soil, who clearly had no problems driving around shooting random civilians in Baghdad.

        • Vooch

          I would go so far as to suggest a complex false flag scenario.

          It seems to me that most likely scenario is a simple case of typical FBI stupidity combined with hefty volumes of spray-and-pray by the “rescue” team and the off duty cop bouncers.

          Also note that the killer had been a cop at some time he attended a FLA police academy in 2006.

          So this might just be some case of cop on cop score settling.

    • disqus_s4n9NxE7Bi

      I’d love to know what we’re being distracted from. It’s so frustrating that people are so blind, blind sheep.

      Did want to point out one thing though, this is the month of Ramadan- and if Omar Mateen (Afghani American ?Muslim) indeed was an extremist Muslim, it’s highly HIGHLY unlikely he would carry out such an alleged attack during the Holy Month. Fasting leaves you humbled and yes, exhausted. No way a practicing Muslim would do this during Ramadan.

      • kdk

        That’s a really good point.

  • Swede760

    The coincidence that this happened just after Clinton tries to convince everyone that she won California while there are still 2.5 Million votes left to be counted makes one wonder. This is not only flooding MSM but the Internet as well with all the conspiracy theories that go with it. I would like to know what others think as I have not come to a conclusion, was this just a Nut Case or was this perpetrated to direct our attention away from the Presidential Campaign as it is being used now.

    • lionswimmer

      Or TPP, or the Bilderberg meeting during June 9 weekend, or, or, or…There are many, very important things going on, from which to distract attention. And there are many political and foreign policy agendas, too.

      • Gordon Klock

        Like the rash of banker “suicides”…(etc)…

    • missythemissmiss

      My first thought was that this is too convenient and the timing is too coincidental. It brings up gay issues, Islam, homophobia, terrorism and gun control all wrapped up in a nice little box for Hillary to spout off her platform, while she prepares to hi-jack the election and the country. I cannot believe this was not planned.

      • Jonathan A Pickens-Rooney

        You said it perfectly and succinctly!

      • Gordon Klock

        I think you may have hit the bullseye….

  • Canon Fodder {Ftooomch}

    Jew hoax to grab yer guns.

  • Salim Mohammed

    Asked someone knowledgeable about firearms and here’s his take :
    “Do I think the government can stage something like this to push an agenda? Yup! But I find it interesting how the media hypes these incidents without facts and research. Making claims that the gun can shoot 700 rounds per minute. An AR 15 is a semi auto civilian version of the M16. I don’t think even full auto M16s can fire 700 rounds per minute. And even then the standard AR mag holds 30 rounds. If he was to hit that many people multiple times……. he would need to have 10 mags. The standard tac vest holds 4 mags plus 1 on the gun makes 5 mags. So he would need additional mag pouches for the other 5 mags. Not to mention the handgun and spare mags for that. So essentially he would be walking down the street looking like Rambo and nobody would notice him in a bustling metropolitan area?” So if no one noticed this guy with all that ammo , then how did it get in? Maybe concealed on several persons. Go figure.

    • disqus_s4n9NxE7Bi

      lookin like rambo. haha. it’s so true though.

  • z–man

    Yep. Another false flag.

  • z–man

    Once again, crisis actors..

    • disqus_s4n9NxE7Bi

      is this a real ting crisis mannequin? are these paid actors or work in the govt? fascinating.

  • ggetaclue

    One man could NOT stop a stampeding herd of people desperate to exit a lethal situation. This is bullshit.

  • Seeking photos of the dead, photos of the interior of the club with damage and coagulated blood especially. Not finding ANY photos at all. Highly suspicious, reminds me of Sandy Hook, the false flag drill against an unoccupied school with FBI reporting no dead at Sandy Hook in its annual report.

  • Donald Holland

    Is this part of Obama’s potential plan to create a crisis and declare martial law between election and inauguration days?

  • Feileacan

    Because an off duty cop exchanged gunfire with him as the shooting began.

  • gerry d welder

    Especially if you’re a woman or of the LBGT community you should panic now, before the rush:

    The LBGT community, feminists and liberals love to attack Christian and conservative values, well they’re all about to get something else and it is coming like a freight train.

    Judeo-Christian America and US sovereignty are being destroyed in a sustained, systematic undermining while a federal Islamic totalitarian police state is taking over.

    “Heard an ex CIA agent, Jim Garrow say he overheard him tell some ambassador years ago that they planned to have America Islamized by 2016.” – You can thank all democrats and all neo-con progressives (all RINOs).

    Gays, Lesbians and Transgenders are murdered by the state in most Muslim majority countries.

    … and the LBGT community, feminists and liberal progressives are clueless and continue to attack and try to force Christians to abandon their religious beliefs in the name of tolerance.

    youtube:

    Creeping Sharia: The ISLAMIZATION of the WEST

    https://youtu.be/hueHtOM5dTY

    youtube:

    We Need Islam Control, Not Gun Control

    https://youtu.be/JDYiM–TrbY

    What is happening is an infiltration and seizure with authority at all federal agencies. Most Americans are totally oblivious to our new unfolding reality that is quietly, steadily, purposely and with increased momentum, taking control over all aspects of our country.

    When Obama said we are no longer a Christian nation, his intention is to insure it and enforce Sharia compliance and it is happening in a gradual but sustained manner (purposely without fanfare).

  • Magneticcorvette

    Jesus christ you conspiracy theory idiots are dumb. You never look for the rest of an interview, ignore everything that doesn’t fit your narrative and act as if you would be Mr. Hero, Mr. I ain’t scared of nothing. Meanwhile people all around you have multiple bullet wounds, blood everywhere in a dark crowded club, but noooo, you would stop that shooter and somebody should have, blah, blah, blah. God you conspiracy nuts are dumb, missing actual interviews on mainstream news that debunk most of the crap you say mainstream media won’t show.

  • Sirajullah Malik Shabazz-EL

    Fkn LIARS……………they could have all jumped that mf who was allegedly stopping them from exiting……….YOU CAN’T BELIEVE NOBODY IN THIS CORRUPT, EVIL,

    PERVERTED & RACIST COUNTRY

  • Ken

    Hmmm. 20 minutes before the OPD received the first 911 call?

    That can only be explained by cell phone blocking while the other shooters escaped. They always abandon the patsy and the patsy is always killed. See the history of these operations.