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“Mow them Down,” Americans Once Critical of Police Killings Now Beg Feds to “Slaughter” US Citizens

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Princeton, OR — On Saturday, multiple armed ‘militiamen’ took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge HQ to protest the sentence handed down to two Oregon ranchers accused of arson.

The ranchers accused of arson are Dwight Lincoln Hammond, Jr., 73, and his son, Steven Dwight Hammond, 46, both residents of Diamond, Oregon. They were each sentenced to five years in prison by Chief U.S. District Judge Ann Aiken for alleged arsons they committed on federal lands.

According to the Washington Standard, the problem is multifaceted.

First, both men were sentenced in 2012 by now-retired U.S. District Judge Michael Hogan, following the trial. Steven received one year and a day in prison for setting fires in 2001 and 2006. Dwight got 3 months for his 2001 involvement. Hogan did not believe the men had malicious intent to be labeled as terrorists under the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, even though he sentenced them to jail for the time he did.

The men agreed to a plea deal that they would not appeal the 2012 sentence in order to bring the case to a close.

Both men served their sentences and were released. Now, the feds have appealed those sentences and want the mandatory minimum five-year sentence imposed on the men, and so they appealed to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, who agreed with the feds that the judge ruled illegally. However, now they are wanting to label the Hammonds as terrorists under the 1996 law in order to put them back in jail.

Aside from being thrown in jail for a second time, the Hammonds are upset because they allege no crime was ever committed.

“They called and got permission to light the fire… We usually called the interagency fire outfit – a main dispatch – to be sure someone wasn’t in the way or that weather wouldn’t be a problem,” said Dwight’s wife Susan.

The Hammonds say they were engaging in prescribed burns to keep the land healthy and productive. And, they assert that the Bureau of Land Management also conducts these burns.

The Hammonds lit a fire on their own property that spread to public land. No one was injured, no property was destroyed and the Hammond extinguished the fire themselves, according to the Bundys. The court even ruled that the fires actually had a positive impact on the land.

A second fire in 2006 was also part of the reason the Hammonds were jailed. The Hammonds lit a backfire to defend their land against another fire that was approaching. When they did so, while it certainly did not involve “terrorist activity,” they endangered the lives of several firefighters attempting to put out the blaze on federal land by failing to notify them.

On November 3rd, the Bundys issued a warning, which stated,

We further warn that the incarceration of the Hammond family will spawn serious civil unrest.  We advocate that all charges be dropped and that the Hammond family be allowed to return to the home and life that was so rudely interrupted.  The Hammond family has paid enough for this mistake, if any mistake at all. Further punishments to the Hammonds will require restitution upon those who inflict the injustices.

We call upon aware citizens and government officials to promote the protection and freedom of the Hammond family, and by so doing, maintaining the spirit of liberty that this beloved nation is built upon.

Two months after this warning, the Bundys held true to what they wrote when they, and several other armed citizens, took over the refuge HQ.

The Bundys allege that what the federal government is doing, by using the BLM to dictate the use of open lands, is a violation of the constitution. They now claim to have taken defensive action, after they allege criminal action on behalf of the federal government.

While the Bundy’s actions are certainly questionable, they haven’t harmed anyone or any property. Regardless of your position on the action of the ‘militiamen,’ one thing is certain – every one of them deserves due process. 

Over the past 2 years, a peaceful resistance to police brutality and misconduct has risen up in the United States. This resistance is entirely bipartisan, although some will attempt to claim otherwise for their own political agendas.

On both the right and the left, there have been heartening examples of unlikely groups of citizens coming together to peacefully resist the police state. However, there are also those on both sides who dangerously call for violence, the removal of due process, and the use of state force to implement their own version of tyranny.

In the past few months, examples of the neoconservatives’ calls for fascism have shocked those who are paying attention to the rise of tyranny in the U.S.

Donald Trump epitomized this fascism when he called for banning all Muslims entering the US and shutting down the internet last month. The resultant bandwagon of hate and ignorance has led to a slew of internet comments calling for turning the entire Middle East region into a “parking lot.”

However, this time, instead of the far right calling for insanely violent police state measures, it’s the far left. It appears that some of those on the left have thrown all logic and reason to the wayside and have begun calling, not only for the removal of due process for their fellow Americans, but also for their full-on slaughter.

On various Facebook posts about the militiamen, multiple antagonists claiming to ‘support Bernie Sanders’ and declaring their ‘peaceful Democratic stances’ have called for the murder of those men, women, and children at the Oregon refuge.

Bernie Sanders would certainly not agree that it is okay to drone strike American citizens without due process.

Those who call for violence against others, who have not harmed anyone, are the epitome of all that is wrong in the world today. Regardless of your political views, or positions on issues, denying due process, even to the vilest of criminals, is the work of tyrants.

The irony here is that the folks on the left want to use the same violence, which they ostensibly oppose when not used in a manner they see fit, on people who they disagree with.

Below are some of the shocking comments from supposed ‘peaceful’ people who are calling for the slaughter of others.

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But the comments don’t stop with random folks on the internet. Even celebrity Montel Williams joined in on the calls for violence when he encouraged the government to “disembowel these treasonous terroristic thugs,” late Saturday night in a post to Facebook.

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The irony of people who call for a less violent government, asking for the government to enact violence because it suits their political views, is horrific.

If you call for the slaughter of a group of people who’ve not harmed anyone, you are no better than ISIS.

It seems that both sides of this two-party facade of democracy have been so blinded by state-sponsored hate and entitlement for their cause, that they have lost all reason and compassion for their fellow human.

The anti-Muslim Right, Islamic terrorists, and now the pro-state-violence Left — would all do well to study the intention behind Martin Luther King Jr.’s famous quote:

“Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal.”

  • This is why the militia men are pissed off. Are they terrorists?

    • Sabree Johnson, wtf?

    • Why are you ignoring the fact they are breaking federal law?

      So what? Now because you don’t agree with a law, you don’t have to obey it?

      You Libertarians are not patriots. You are Koch Bros corporate 1% puppets. If you want a better government stop electing right-wing fascists.

    • They weren’t charged with terrorism, they were charged with arson for burning land that was not theirs. Remember that a meme can rarely sum up an entire situation. http://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/eastern-oregon-ranchers-convicted-arson-resentenced-five-years-prison

    • So whatever law they put down you’re gonna follow? Okay Hitler follower, think about it, these people are fighting for there right…

    • sean camoeron You need to do your reserch the goverment has been stealing ranch land’s from self saficiant living rancher’s for over ten year’s . Vea inoment domain /taxing and fining ranchers for digging pond’s to water there livestock.DO THE FUCKING RESERCH. And it just goes on and on. Go hide in your closit and watch your soap’s obvisousaly you dont have the ball’s to stand with the people of our country agenst goverment over reach.

    • Laws are opinions backed by a gun, Sean. Let me ask you this: Should the people alive in 1850 obeyed the Fugitive Slave Act and returned escaped slaves to their masters? And should the abolitionists who helped slaves escape to freedom been prosecuted?

    • Nice Sean, accuse us of not being patriots.
      Is that how you usually have well reasoned debates and make friends?

    • You’re right, Sean, we shouldn’t ignore the fact that folks don’t comply with the law. Like the folks in the meme I just shared.

    • Blacks should have obeyed Jim Crow laws, right Sean?

    • We are all terroist when Big BROTHER SAY SO.. FUCK ALL THESE SICK RULESWE ARE FORCD TO LIVE UNDER,,AND FUCK THE ZIONIST IN POWER.

    • The BLM was formed 1946. Harry S Truman president

    • WATCH THE BLM TRY TO KILL THEM AND BURNED THEIR RANCH AND LIVESTOCK RIGHT ON VIDEO!…https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KHyZQrMZ7lA

    • NOT AT ALL! We have got to start listening to ourselves and stop listening to the mainstream media. I am happy to see humans taking a stand FINALLY!

    • So according to Sean, we need to stop electing the Koch brothers. I’m in. Personally, I’m never voting for them again. We just need to get them out of the White House.

      Yeah…. That’s how stupid he sounds…

    • They stared a fire to cover up illegally hunting on federal land. Which there one family members testified against them for. The second fire they started was during a burn ban, and that fire burnEd over a hundred acres of federal land. I bet if a fireman died putting out either fire you might care then.http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/03/3735647/malheur-lake-oregon-militia-explainer/

    • Sean Cameron Hey Sean, libertarians don’t have the law, because it’s too complicated.

    • Complete bullshit.

    • Every facet of our government from local to the Federal level laws are being enacted by self serving politicians to deprive our citizens freedom of expression and livilihood. Unless you experience it first hand you will remain in self denial. That is why Trump leads in the Republican party. People are fed up.

    • That meme is so wrong! Does Free Thought just post stuff directly from Alex Jones without verifying it first? There is some land the Hammonds own and some land they do not own. The dispute is over land they do not own. Also, the BLM was created in 1946, but even before that the land was still owned by the federal government.

    • what a simplistic twist… it’s more complicated than this sophomoric post claims. It’s propaganda..

    • Are they breaking the law and promising to kill Federal Agents or die trying? Did they get a fairer trial than Michael Brown or Eric Garner? Did they spend more on appeals than on the CONTRACTUAL FEES and LEASE PAYMENTS they stole form EVERY AMERICAN Tax Payer? I think it’s time to test some Nerve Agents on some TERRORISTS!!!! CLiven Bundy should have been in JAIL 4 years ago and his land should have been AUCTIONED FOR HIS DEBT to America.

    • The Hammonds are totally getting shafted, but they don’t want people supporting them by precipitating a conflict with the feds.

  • We have got to stop watching mainstream, fear-mongering media owned by a few rich white people!!! This is exactly what they want… I stand in solidarity with all humans <3

  • Wake up you bunch of friggin sheep !!! THINK FOR YOURSELVES!

  • Terrorist

  • the hypocrisy runs deep with Americans

  • So the usual hypocritical BS

  • it must be he flouride making them insane

  • Huh? Armed, unregulated militia that hate all government, laws, rules, regulations have attacked and captured a national treasure (Malheur National Wildlife Refuge). These are homegrown terrorists. There is nothing “peaceful” about them or their intent. Take them out now and end this BS. Make them the example of how we treat terrorism whether abroad or at home. Get after them. They are a threat to our Nation.

    • The people being imprisoned are NOT terrorists, and the judge who heard their case is openly opposed to the injustice being done to them by our government. Read the story, and it will make you mad as hell.

    • Don Throckmorton I’m talking about the armed, white terrorists that have taken over a National Wildlife Refuge. They don’t give a crap about laws or life. The convicted felons are going back to prison where they belong!

    • Your radical thought process is a threat to our nation, there was no attack, and you can’t just attack them

    • Seriously? Going back to prison where they belong? For burning property that they own and being charged with arson?

    • Jim is a Fascist boot licker.

    • Looks like another retired L.E.O acting like a cowardly moron.

    • You really don’t care to know the truth, do you ? These peoples’ only crime was to live on and work land that the government wanted. The terrorists in THIS case work for the government. IF the presence of the people holding the wildlife refuge keeps the ranchers out of prison, it’s a good thing. Jim Stengle, if you check out the whole story ( the real story), you’ll see these people did nothing wrong. I mean nothing.

    • Jim here has an I.Q. relative to his shoe size. Don’t try to explain the facts to a usefull idiot.

    • Jim would probably vote for trump lmao ?

    • You think like a slave

    • Jim you sir are brain washed and a slave to ur government

    • Not one shot has been fired, they occupied one abandoned building, and said they don’t plan to hurt anyone, but yeah they’re terrorists

    • You are part of the problem old man.

    • People like Jim are boot licking slaves who are the enemy of freedom and liberty.

    • Don’t come down on dude to hard…he’s just a bit misguided

    • You must love oppression. Go and jump off a tall building.

    • This coward is whats wrong with this country! Cowards like him that bowe to the oppression of government! He is a coward that doesn’t deserve the rights given to him by those who died for them! Cowards like jim are the reason the government thinks it has the authority to do this! Id slap your traitor ass to the ground Jim fir betraying your fellow citizens! Fkn punk ass coward bitch!!

    • Look its Jim Stengle!

    • Perhaps you should go to their page. To learn more about these families. Bundy Ranch community here on FB.

  • The number of brainwashed sheep demanding these people, who I consider to be fighting for freedom, be shot on site!
    This could be the start of a revolution that is much needed in USA. Good luck to those standing up to the tyrannical government.

  • Thank you this post is exactly how i feel

  • So if a group of blacks burn their town and riots in the name of injustice its protest but if a group of militia occupy an empty office in the name of injustice they are terrorists ? Interesting double standard .

    • Yea nice lol

    • As soon as the “patriot ” starts burning looting and raping I’ll call him a thug too .

    • Yea a 12 year old looted and burned shit down before being shot down after police arrive 2 seconds later

    • You like any other person watching mainstream media noticed only the looting because that’s all they focus on
      Their was peaceful protesting but you watching the mainstream media wouldn’t know that

    • But yea keep defending terrorist
      That makes sense lol

    • Hu so what about ferguson ? What about philly what about Baltimore what about Detroit ? And Los Angeles ? Cops shoot people every day about 94 percent of those people are not of color and you don’t see crackers burning their towns down and looting their neighbors . Why do you think that is ?

    • Stupid
      That statement there shows me you don’t know shit ????

    • And what about when a basketball or baseball team wins a game.. ?

    • Your statement shows me your blinded by a false narrative and a false sense that somehow someone’s holding people down , the only people holding them back are themselves .

    • I saw one shoot up planned parenthood though. *cough*

    • And a movie theater

    • And a church

    • Yup and he’s a dip shit waste of oxygen cops should have smoked his crazy ass .

    • You think crackers are the only ones pullin triggers in theaters , malls and churches ?

    • Yea, they arent dead though. Just in jail. How convenient

    • You haven’t happen to have herd about ruby ridge or Waco ? Feds burned and killed women and children by the dozens ? Maybe the bikers that were executed by the Popo snipers at the burger joint a couple months back ?

    • I sure dont see blacks riding around screaming the south will rise again waving the Confederate flag but getting all pissy and wondering why it gets taken down in Columbia. Or a TERRORIST group such as the kkk still being allowed to exist knowing their history.

    • What about black panthers , CAIR and kill whitey pigs in a blanket and all that jive ?

    • I doubt Oregon will ever scream the south will rise again considering they are on the northwest coast. Yall need to shut the fuck up and look at the facts instead of color you both are fucking jokes. A bunch of facebook memes educated dumbasses.

    • What are the facts I read the facts have you ?

    • There it is “cops should have killed his crazy ass”

      Not everyone here is critical of police shootings apparently 😉

    • Avery, exit. Thanks. Anyways. Comparing the panthers crimes vs the kkk is laughable don’t you think?

    • Justified dude admitted he did it

    • injustice?

    • Fuck the kkk this isnt about race its about the government taking land for profit. The guys out there are the oath keepers. Those are the same men that stoop in front of Ferguson with ar-15s when they brought in the national Guard.

    • Boom

    • A riot is fundamentally different from a protest. Just like unarmed is fundamentally different from armed.

    • Armed cannot be peaceful ?

    • Not when you’re making threats of force. That’s like putting a gun to my head and saying it’s peaceful because you didn’t pull the trigger.

    • Who’s got a gun to your head ?

    • Or like pointing a gun at me with your finger on the trigger from afar and calling it peaceful.

    • It’s nothing like that lol

    • A show of arms shows an ability to defend ones self

    • Arturo Nieto, only a simpleton idiot would say it’s fine to stand up against police brutality but not against the violation of our constitution. They are the same thing! They are both violations of our constitution!

    • Arturo Neito, they violated the boys rights under our constitution! No unjust punishment and due process! But you’re saying it’s ok to stand up against that but not ok to stand up for the other articles of our constitution? You’re as bright as a black hole aren’t ya?

    • Arturo Neito

    • Arturo Neito, while being a jackass troll it is important to make your comebacks make sense

    • Arturo Neito, who the hell stated that the twelve year old burned and looted the town? LOL

    • Yung Envy, i get it, you hate the White man? How about this, just fucking admit it like a man and stop using your racism as an excuse to hate militias! Are you a fake bullshitter?

    • Yung Envy, i saw one of your kind shoot up a playground. Are you a hypocrite buddy?

    • Yung Envy, you a bullshitter? The reason white mass killers are in jail and not dead like a gang banger black shooter would be is because the gangbanger had balls and shot it out with the cops(or are ya just acting like ya didnt know because you’re a bullshitter)?. Mass shooters are chicken shit in the rain! They never shoot it out with the cops! They either kill themselves or surrender

    • Yung Envy, i sure do see black panthers calling for the killing of white babies! Am i a liar or is that not the same as the KKK? Hypocrite bullshitter?

  • Wow smh

  • Non-violent people don’t just appropriate whatever they consider belongs to them and threaten to kill anyone who dares to try and take it back.

  • Those people marching against the Oregon militia must not have a clear understanding of what’s happening, we can’t educate them. I like how the clearly smarter group was able to walk in their, not hurt anyone,lay claim to the hq,while everyone against them had their thumbs up their own asses. That it hilarious.

    • Please stop calling them the ‘Oregon Militia’, most of these idiots don’t live here and most Oregonians want them to go away.

    • They are a militia,in Oregon, so I’ll keep calling them by their proper title.

  • we are being manipulated into civil war … lol! as if there is anything civil about killing to get what we want. boycott the system … stop funding killers

  • “disembowl these treasonous terroristic thugs” Really Montel? That sounds like hate speech to me. Arrest that man Loretta Lynch!! Oh wait, I forgot that it only works when it is the other way around. Sorry, I was confused.

  • bi polar, is a thing

  • Just another right wing extremist terrorist groups.

  • Some of the same people who were (justifiably) screaming about police bruality towards black people a short time ago are urging the government to kill these peaceful protestors (who aren’t looting or burning anything). If this fact upsets you, you probably need to take a look in the mirror to see the nearest racist wanna-be-dictator.

    • Hands down best come back I’ve seen

    • American are suffering from mass stupidity.

    • Peaceful? They are armed to the teeth, itching for a confrontation.

    • Start of a well overdue revolution Martha.

    • Martha Kilbridge You don’t get out much, do you? Itching? Prudent andf Prepared. And if you think for one minute that they aren’t peaceful, then you are a clueless loon that repeats leftist talking points.

    • Sean Jones : Nahhhh, ain’t no revolution. I say carpet bomb these sumbitches and the whole thing is over. Period.

    • Take a closer look at the footage. You may have missed all the high powered weaponry these fuckers have on them. Peaceful?

    • They haven’t harmed a soul or burned or looted a thing yea I’d say it’s peaceful

    • Wait until the federal government ends up on your lawn with ak-47s and ar-15s by the dozen. Will that be peaceful too? Or will you feel slightly threatened? You seem to be threatened and scared when the president suggests stricter gun control, so having 24 Feds on your lawn wont feel harmful? What a crock of shit theory. This is one huge excuse to whip out the guns you all got for Christmas.

    • Sean Dale Lakin : Dude, the really sad aspect of your comment is that you KNOW your comment is wrong but you STILL insist it isn’t. It is sad for you and dangerous to the rest of us.

    • They are armed, and threatened to kill anyone who gets in their way, because their friends got arrested for lighting forest fires on government property. what about that is not a terrorist act? They don’t like something, so they take over a government building willing to kill anyone who stries to stop them. They are using threats of death to get something that they want, which is very close to the dictionary definition of terrorism.

    • armed and threatning to shoot. some peaceful, you nudnik.

  • I find myself disturbed the media will call these people terrorist’s as many know over the year’s the goverment is and has been stealing ranches from rancher’s. Fining rancher’s for having lakes to water there animal’s on there own property. The goverment and the state goverment need’s to stand down. These people are standing up for what’s right not what’s wrong. And if the goverment and state officials harm these people for standing up aganst a corrupt system then it will be a real call to arm’s . The concept of goverment stealing people’s civil libertie’s based on arbutary laws designed to destroy our cival libertie’s there day’s are numbered.The goverment has opened a pandoras box . And awoken a sleeping giant. The people.!! This is no diffrent than fergison only diferance is thay are accupying fed land and not state or city land.

  • They are terrorists, breaking the law. This does not tell the whole story. Very disappointed at this.

    • Terrorists that haven’t terrorized anybody ?

    • Oh yeah, I can totally see how peaceful they are……….

    • And I may be the minority,, but I actually care about the environmental programs that these people are destroying.

    • I’m all for the wild life refuge ? but to call them terrorists I think is misleading

    • I disagree. Taking a federal building by force of guns. To me that’s treason/ terrorism. I understand breach of government. But this is wrong.

    • Citizens own the government not the other way around, plus there was no personal on site to say it was takin by force

  • Send in the snipers to wait until one of these parasite hotheads fires a shot and start shooting their faces off. Otherwise it’s all right for me and my gang to show up at Yosemite and take over it for all the black kids in Las Angeles. These self-appointed heroes don’t represent anyone but themselves and nobody wants to be represented by them.

  • Crazy world we live in

  • I think you’re getting America and MURKAH confused.

  • Here’s that Bernaise-ian conditioning in full effect. They have been thoroughly conditioned by movies and TV to have a primal fear response when someone breaks away from the herd.
    Ever read Huxley’s Brave New World? We’re living it, and the fear inducing media is soma, that pill that makes all your fear and anxiety go away while all the programming is reinforced.
    Most people cannot go against the government because of this conditioning, and the comments here are great citations.
    What’s more is we’ve been programmed to think that violence is never the answer while the establishment uses it against us daily.
    A good way to tell brainwashing is cognitive dissonance, illogical decisions, primal responses to non life threatening situation s, etc

  • The government wants the mineral rights to that area and are willing to break the law to get it. This is the domestic version of Afghanistan

  • WAR!

  • No wonder Bush AND Obama got re-elected. America has gone down the tubes.

  • Oh America. We Are So Fucked. Don’t Even Say Vote Trump. WE ARE FUCKED!

  • I can’t believe what I’m reading. This country is begining to feed upon itself. Heaven help us. And as far as Montel’s comment goes, I can’t believe a man with that kind of sevice record can so easly forget the oath he swore to uphold.

  • How can the govt. charge them again for the same crime??!!!

  • At least we have the freedom still to protest in this way when something seems wrong. Unless these people are still on Probation/Parole it’s pretty obvious that re-sentencing them for the same crime is bordering on illegal. I know it is done, has been done, and will continue to be done, but it is a process that needs to stop. The only time there should be re-sentencing is when their is an appeal by the defendant. All that said, wanting to attack US citizens with drones or any other way is sick. You assclowns are going to start a civil war.

  • Divide & Conquer!

  • Hypocrisy at its finest

  • What? Liberal protesters and Al Sharpton lovers are hypocritical?!! No way!

  • Just before Obama is to take executive action on gun control. Anyone else thinking “agent provocateurs”?

    • Hammonds have until the 4th to turn themselves in for crimes they have already served there time for. They were told it was illegal for them to talk with any militia. The government is the ones doing the provoking

  • Double standards – agree with me or I’ll kill you ! Way to go, America.

  • Wtf is wrong with this country..

  • The U.S. Is one chronically fucked up place.

  • Kill kill kill What an asylum we live in today.

  • This fuckary makes my head hurt.

  • Wow…

  • These mow them down cockers are the ones that need mowing.

  • It’s the american way

  • WATCH THE BLM AND OBAMAS GOONS SURROUND THESE HOMES WITH FLAMES AND TRY TO KILL THEM. AND BURNED DOWN THEIR RANCH AND LIVESTOCK! ALL ON VIDEO…https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KHyZQrMZ7lA

  • un followed. terrorist supporting scum pushing false information. just as bad as the cops.

  • Horribly violent people, top of the line a Bernie Sanders supporter of course.

  • Laquan mcdonald also deserved due process and tamir rice did also. Was it given no?

  • A fight between grasshoppers is a joy to the crow. ~ Lesotho proverb

    If you want to go quickly, go alone. If you want to go far, go together. ~ African proverb

    Let’s consider who the grasshoppers are…

    The American People of all races, beliefs, sexes and ages…

    Who is the “crow?”

    Once we understand our commonality and who is at the center of our grievances, who the common denominator is, we can begin to appreciate the African proverb which followed the Lesotho proverb…

  • This is exactly what the puppet master wanted..sad how American citizen’s are used as pawns in a chess game without even knowing it..helping and sacrificing them selfs in order to progress the kings evil plans.wake up sheeple..God bless and peace to all

  • No drone strikes or slaughter, but these “patriot” dudes are swaggering American cowboys who would be worse than today’s police if they were running amok in the streets and the forests. Maybe they can be used as frontline cannon fodder in a larger revolution, but they’d have to be eliminated before victory (said only partly sarcastically).

  • It’s a good thing the media wasn’t here when George Washington and his rag tag little Army set out to toss the English out!

  • Funny how that works…

  • Here’s the email I received from the Bundys.
    **Click on the links for understanding!**
    **This is an update to our Call to Action**

    Dear Friends,

    Today we are marching in Oregon to stand up for the Hammonds, it is bitter cold with plenty of snow on the ground but we will not waiver.

    We wish you were here, but if not could we ask a small favor?

    Would you please forward this Press Release to your local newspaper and TV outlets?

    This is perhaps the simplest thing you can do to help the Hammonds, we must bring attention to them now.

    FOR IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE:
    CLIVEN D. BUNDY
    PO Box 7175
    Bunkerville, NV 89007
    702-346-5564

    January 1, 2016 – Bunkerville, NV USA

    With great concern and love and much consideration from prayer, I come to you Harney County Sheriff of Oregon David M. Ward, rancher Steven Dwight Hammond, and rancher Dwight Lincoln Hammond, Jr.,

    I, Cliven D. Bundy, have been involved for several weeks in the background striving to understand and comprehend your dilemmas in Harney County, Oregon. I understand that the grass that was burnt on each side of the fence was grazing rights that had been created through beneficial use, one side of the fence being private property and the other side of the fence being private property rights. The fires that were set were for a good purpose and had good results.

    The United States Justice Department has NO jurisdiction or authority within the State of Oregon, County of Harney over this type of ranch management. These lands are not under U.S. treaties or commerce, they are not article 4 territories, and Congress does not have unlimited power. These lands have been admitted into statehood and are part of the great State of Oregon and the citizens of Harney County enjoy the fullness of the protections of the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Constitution limits United States government.

    It is my suggestion, Steven Hammond, that you go and check yourself into Harney County jail asking for protective custody. It is my suggestion, Dwight Hammond, that you go and check yourself into Harney County jail asking for protective custody. It is my suggestion, Harney County Sheriff David Ward, accept these two ranchers into your jail, notify the United States Solicitor in Washington DC that you have these two ranchers in Harney County jail, that they will remain there indefinitely under hprotective custody and the protection of We the People of Harney County and We the People of the United States of America.

    I suggest an Evidentiary Hearing or a Grand Jury be formed by We the People.

    I feel that this action is immediately important, that it should be taken place before 10:00 am Saturday, January 2, 2016. I will hold these suggestions private until that time then I will release this letter to those having state and county jurisdiction and to the media.

    Cliven D. Bundy

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  • Unless they plan on giving the land back to the Native Americans they are TERRORIST.

    • They should have controlled their fire then. Don’t take over a building because you couldn’t hand your business on your purchased stolen land.

  • What happened to america

  • Most of the people calling for a brutal crackdown here probably haven’t heard the whole story and are assuming this is another terrorist attack by men like Timothy McVeigh or Robert Dear, only organized. I thought so before I read this, although I didn’t think the Marshalls or FBI or ATF or whoever should rush in and kill them all. Thank you for giving me a fair account of what’s happening her. BTW, I am a liberal leftist, but an anti authoritarian one. I hate authoritarianism in all forms.

  • Good job murica!

  • Thank you FTP for not leftcucking on this issue.

  • Facebook comments do not equal news in my world. Crazy story though.

  • The Harmmond has ball and hope they hold their ground.

  • The Hammond’s are distancing themselves from this, first of all. Second, the fire was started to cover up a crime.

  • What are you Idiots crying about now? STFU already damn!

  • ?????

  • The sheeple are mindless zombies following anything they see on TV I would be there with them standing against tyranny! Every american should be! Fuck montell williams and anyone else that call them terrorist for standing against tyranny! You are the problem with this country if you think the government has the right to bully citizens and take their land!

  • They stared a fire to cover up illegally hunting on federal land. Which there one family members testified against them for. Maybe you should re read the store,from a nonpartisan source. The second fire they started was during a burn ban, and that fire burnEd over a hundred acres of federal land. I bet if a fireman died putting out either fire you might care then.http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/03/3735647/malheur-lake-oregon-militia-explainer/

    • Firefighters were called out by the Hammonds but the BLM told them not to go. Get your facts straight they’ve already served there time and the Feds (whom have no right to state land) want them to go back. Way to back the government on this one. Did you back the cops during black lives matter as well?

    • Facts are straight fool I even gave you a site to go check,
      The Hammonds’ property, which has belonged to the ranching family for generations, interlocks with publicly owned Bureau of Land Management (BLM) property, requiring the Hammonds to work together with the BLM to manage the vast area where the Hammonds’ animals graze on a mix of private and federal property.

      The Hammonds set a fire in 2001 that ultimately burned 139 acres of BLM land. The ranchers say they began it on their own land with agency approval, but prosecutors say they were in fact seeking to cover up illegal deer hunting on the BLM acreage near their property. A second, much smaller fire in 2006 burned another acre of BLM land during a “burn ban” imposed to allow agency firefighters to combat a blaze caused by lightning.The Hammonds’ property, which has belonged to the ranching family for generations, interlocks with publicly owned Bureau of Land Management (BLM) property, requiring the Hammonds to work together with the BLM to manage the vast area where the Hammonds’ animals graze on a mix of private and federal property.

      The Hammonds set a fire in 2001 that ultimately burned 139 acres of BLM land. The ranchers say they began it on their own land with agency approval, but prosecutors say they were in fact seeking to cover up illegal deer hunting on the BLM acreage near their property. A second, much smaller fire in 2006 burned another acre of BLM land during a “burn ban” imposed to allow agency firefighters to combat a blaze caused by lightning.

      The Hammonds served time for the fires in 2013. A district judge sentenced Dwight to three months and Steve to 366 days of prison time. But the federal anti-terrorism law that prosecutors used to punish the fires includes mandatory minimum sentences of 5 years for fires that damage public property but cause no injury or death. After a series of appeals, the Hammonds were re-sentenced in October of 2015 to the full five years required by that 1990s statute.
      http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/03/3735647/malheur-lake-oregon-militia-explainer/

    • and here in PDF forum is their appeals …that was rejected, yeah I did the research instead of jumping on that bandwagon,,, http://www.landrights.org/or/Hammond/Hammonds%20Appeal%209th%20district%20court.pdf

    • The building was unoccupied over the holidays, not abandoned. The government is not stealing Bundy’s land, it’s government land (that’s you and me, all of us) and Bundy is the thief. Plus, he entered a lease agreement and refuses to pay the rent, OR his taxes. So, he’s stealing from all of us. Bundy and his group of thugs have threatened violence against others if attempts are made to stop THEIR criminal activity. They’re just a gang of armed domestic terrorists and deserve whatever measures the fed must take to cleanse the area of their criminal behavior.

  • Bullshit propaganda. .

  • I protest police killings of innocent civilians. Not taking arms against a well armed terrorist group attempting to intimidate a county to bend to their will through threat of lethal force.

    Your comparison to the unarmed civilians being killed for asserting their rights legally to this would be laughable if it weren’t so misguided.

    • “Terrorist group” been watching the mainstream media recently?

    • Sooooooo…. Everything the government makes us do isn’t “through threat of lethal force”? IRS, obamacare, BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT. Your views on the topic wouldn’t be so laughable if they weren’t so misguided. Try doing some research. I wonder how you would react if the BLM had been bullying your family for decades trying to get you to sell their land to them. They’re terrorists because they performed a normal and regular farming practice? Get real because you’re only kidding yourself

    • Nathan Cranker : Ohhhh, you can bet that terrorist groups watch and monitor mainstream media. This is part of their intelligence-gathering modus operandi. (yes, this is sarcasm).

    • Jessica Woodward, go home, you are a blind coward.

    • What do you think “No Justice, No Peace” implies? It certainly sounds like a threat of violence if certain conditions aren’t met.

  • Let me get this right … Throughout history Americans have protested against things like wars and racism, largely to partial or minimal effect. Meanwhile the ‘Government’ had ALWAYS had the power to withdraw from any war, or never get involved in the first place. And ALWAYS had the power to effect positive change regarding racism (via laws, media, education etc), but chose to do neither. Then these guys in Oregon finally get sick of relying on what is clearly a government with little interest in serving its peoples needs or desires, and the rest of the country want them bombed/arrested/silenced? WOW really? I honestly hope i’m missing something here.

  • First of all, 100% of what comes through the MSM is a lie. Start there and work your way back to reason. American’s do not speak as blocks or units very well. The media tells you what they want. If the MSM tells you “American’s want drone strikes” what you should take away is the opposite. The US government is screaming for blood and wants drone strikes.

  • Maybe they’re armed so other disgruntled citizen don’t attempt to vigilantes, wow it’s like it’s happened before.

  • People are stupid

  • Yes, drop a bomb on them

  • This is what is wrong with america, pussies an cry babies.

  • Can they at least get arrested.

  • One can not name one’s self after a continent if they are for closed boarders. I am an American because I believe closed boarders are not necessary. If you believe we should have a divide between boarders, you are a statist, and in order to call yourself an American, you need to believe in all people from any country on these continents. We believe we have it so good people from all other countries want to be here, REALLY, take a better look around and smell the racial tensions, and all the other BS going on in these here united states. I’ve been saying for many years our country is turning into Nazi Germany, and everyone laughs and believes it could never happen here, but look again, its a plague of utter proportions. Trump will be the next Hitler, and are you willing to allow that to really happen?

    I believe the great divide has proven its effectiveness. The posts that calls for killing people is not evidence of anything, who in their right minds care about these idiot’s posts, not me, and I am not condoning any violent solution, and I am going to vote for Sanders, go figure. This is an attempt by rightist’s, and statists, to generate vote’s for the left, and if Trump gets the power you’ll are so willingly, willing to give up will trigger a civil war. This is what the elitists are pushing for, to keep the masses divided and easy to control. I’m going to point out with calling everyone who falls for this shit, SUCKERS, and real ones too. We need to join together in force the hand of the elitists, and turn the sheeple back into people.

  • I sure as hell didn’t say that. However, if you take over federal property and say you are prepared to die, that sounds like terrorism to me. It’s such a double fing standard.

  • Time to unlike this shit hole factually inaccurate meme factory.

  • If they had not brought assault weapons it would have been a peaceful protest. They ruled that out by their choice.

  • I hope more people stand up and help put a stop to govt’ greed.

  • This is just fuel to democrats who want to destroy the constitution and bury libertarians…racism and te**or have been used to seperate society …the worlds not perfect but the power grabbing in the news daily is becoming unsettling…..if anything the reactions of government have become so incredible it highlights some thing very sinister..
    This is how you know when government got to big and to powerdrunk…what happened to the peoples voice ? What ever happened to the law? What ever happened to Morality? When did government become so crooked?

  • Not Sure Who is calling for “Drones to Slaughter” Citizens, but they need a psych eval soon.

  • Peace…

  • Up until the “Militia” or the Government, opens fire on someone, it is a peaceful protest. I doubt you will see the “Militia” open fire. If someone opens that can of worms it will be the Government. You probably do not remember Kent State. This isn’t intimidation, it is civil disobedience. When you run out of legal options to defend against a unjust action by a Government or entity. Sometimes civil disobedience is necessary.

  • seriously, get rid of the Commies!!!

  • We seek balance. We seek justice.
    We do not seek revenge.

  • To those that want to mow them down why don’t u show up and do it u BIG FUCKING PUSSYS.

  • All the dumbed down sheeple falling for FOX and CNN propaganda again. No wonder the U.S is heading towards tyranny.

  • Oh stop the false equivalency bullshit! OWS, Black Lives Matter, were not an armed insurrection. These “sovereign citizens” have pledged to kill or be killed, Left last will videos for their families. Invited other armed insurrectionists to join them. ‘Non-violent” my ass! You’re no different than the rest of the fucking media tools. If a gang of black teens armed with jelly doughnuts occupied a federal building they’d already be dead. You’re as much part of the problem as Fox News. Nothing to see here as long as the terrorists are white!

  • Good read

  • Communazi Police State Thug Bootlickers may be found on both sides of the political aisle. This is wussup: http://alibertarianfuture.com/guns/no-the-bundy-brothers-oregon-militia-are-not-terrorists/#sthash.C6n873D8.dpbs

  • The mindless pieces of shit who do not recognize that right to militia is part of the second amendment and it is there for this exact purpose, to rise up against a tyrannical, unjust, and malicious government, will act all surprised when they are systematically killed off and overtly enslaved by the same government they gave that right up to. Fucking moronic idiots. Too f*& stupid to understand that they are shooting themselves in their own feet. Too stupid to see the tyranny taking place right in front of their eyes. Fucking sad.

  • Can you guys change your name to the “Compete Bullshit Project” ?

  • If you want to find out more, go to the Bundy Ranch FB page. Instead of believing everything msm says.

  • At least some one has the balls to stand up for what they believe in, and look at the rest of you wining like little bitches, do you even know what it’s about?? The guys did their 5 year then some asshole judge decides to give them more time ??tell the government to go fuck its power tripping self, add leased these people are resisting, the rest of you are just bending over and taking it… Pussys

  • Fuck this meme. The two are not the same thing. And YES, carpet bomb those sumbitches!

  • The real question here is, what is going on that this story is supposed to distract us from? This is a diversion.

  • You can’t reason with retards…
    I hope to see some feds loose there asses..

  • These “patriot “are not innocent kids,they are mad dogs, Waco them.

  • These people are patriots and true Americans. Patriots take up arms to do what’s right when the government is wrong. Too many people confuse patriotism with nationalism.

  • It’s only wrong when it effects blacks in this day and age

  • Americans are typically not looked at as intelligent beings.

  • Did anyone watch their video?

    They said “We’re taking this land back from the government, and we’re giving it back to the ranchers and the miners and the loggers.”

    That’s right.

    They want to take protected federal land given as a trust to our children and grandchildren, and they want to utterly rape and destroy it.

    THEN they go on to say that breaking in to a Federal Building and commendeering our land for corporations is only the beginning! They also want to “spearhead the armed revolution.”

    That’s right.

    They plan to overthrow the government by force. That’s treason, which is punishable by death.

    Now, let’s consider this:

    We are bombing Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. We claim to be bombing “suspected terrorists,” but often hit civilians by mistake and declare them “enemy comatants” for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    We have bombed hospitals and schools. We are killing women, children, and the elderly. Other countries call us out because these are war crimes, but they cannot stop us because our military is bigger.

    So now we have ACTUAL TERRORISTS on our own soil threatening to overthrow our government with guns. Go to Ammond Bundy’s Facebook page to see the video, and read his “literature” about it.

    And we can’t call in a drone strike?

    There is video evidence that they are guilty of treason! It’s punishable by death!

    Not to mention, Tamir Rice got shot for having a toy gun, and it turns out our legal system is just fine with that.

    If a little boy can get shot for having a toy gun, why can’t 150 armed terrorists get shot?

  • Any hostages? Any bombs? Any children killed? Any “terrorism”?

  • welcome to the mindless mob.

  • Only in the USA could/would and does this sort of thing happen… u guys will be destroyed from the inside out loooong before any rational sort of thinking can take place… #fallenfromgrace #laughingstockoftheworldUSA

  • People are CRAZY. Nobody even takes the time to find out why they’re doing this, they just call them terrorists. One day we’re gonna need people like this to save us from our government. And by ‘one day’ I mean TUESDAY

  • I officialy hate this country with a passion. You fuckers are soooo god damn backwards its not even funny!!

  • Americans are back stabbers both ways.

  • this citizen is NOT begging for drone strikes…

  • If they want to protest, then they should leave their assault weapons at home, locked in a gunsafe. [Out of reach of children.] Tens of thousands of Americans protested during the Occupy Wall Street Movement, and nearly 8000 were arrested. They didn’t bring assault weapons. They still got their message out, even if too many Americans are too stupid to get it. They were brave. They stood up, unarmed, in front of the storm troopers, and they took their lumps for it, but they never brought assault weapons. If you want to change the government, fine. You can protest without assault weapons….,

  • Montel, Tell your radical black thugs that! The Fedreal ageniecys have over stepped the law, It’s not ok to shoot volient thugs in the act. But ok to murder people who stand againest Tranny! Assault weaons, until used in an assault , it’s a tool, as a hammer, a screwdriver, Montel yo’

  • we’re not going to make it

  • When some are making comments like this, you have to wonder.

  • People were threatening physical violence over STAR WARS trailers, why are you surprised? Seriously, fuck all y’all. Greatest country in the world, where every person wants to kill his neighbor for being there. Fan fucking tastic.

  • The citizens are very confused…

  • I don’t think these ppl are doing the right thing, but, killing ppl doesn’t seem to help.

  • Currently #YallQaeda is engaged in an act of #YeeHawd in rural Oregon.

  • YOU guys wanting to hurt these guys are crazy. They are trying to help an OLD COUPLE THAT ALREADY SERVED HIS TIME FOR A CRAZY THING. NO ONE HURT. AND THEN ANOTHER JUDGE COMES AFTER HE SERVED TIME AND HIS SON AND SAYS THEY NEED TO SERVE MORE TIME. (i DON’T THINK THAT IS LEGAL) ANOTHER JUDGE SAYS THE 1ST JUDGE DIDN’T MAKE THEM SERVE ENOUGH TIME??? ISN’T THAT TWICE FOR THE SAME CRIME. ……..THE GUY IS OVER 70 YEARS OLD……….

  • traitors and terrorists

  • Sick of the BS going on?? A free world is waiting for those in need. The technology is here now to supply the necessities we need to survive, we only have to create this free world. Out with the old and in with the new. Its time for change. Join this group to be part of the change>https://www.facebook.com/groups/265603456982790/ .

  • Is this the trigger that starts the war between the US government and its people?
    Both parties appear to have been preparing for this for years. Indeed, this begs the question: is this a deliberate act by the government – and the Zionists actually in control – to do so?

  • Logic has never been the black community’s strong suit.

  • If that’s not Malicious intent by BLM and the 2012 Judge I don’t what it is.

  • Looks like alot of people need to check themselves. “violent takeover” would imply violence occured. Lol. Get y’all’s panties out of a wad. Quit polarizin’. These are Americans, just like any others. Just like me, just like you. Guns scare ya’? Stay home. But, don’t go accusin’ ’em of doin’ shit they ain’t done. And, don’t wish the same on them that you, yourselves, are up in arms about happenin’ to someone else. Our common enemy is our out of control government/media. Stay focused on that. I’m tryin’ to promote unity on my side. Y’all do the same. Juctim Certatus!

  • People will be people eh

  • The division is complete…It wont be long now.

  • MORE WHITE TERRORISTS are sanctioned by WILLFUL US Federal Ignorance and Appeasment than there have been Al Quaida, Taliban and ISIS terrorists world wide COMBINED. 1865 HATE GROUPS on the Terrorist Watch list and ZERO ARRESTS because they are WHITE REPUBLICANS. But 12 year old black CHILDREN don’t even get HONESTY from their country from a Grand Jury or the Prosecutor SWORN to serve and protect him from the killer cops who swore to serve and protect him also.

  • So much for the new year with more delusional idiots thinking like the bunch of idiots at a ranch.

  • I happen to stop on MSNBC this morning and just then saw the reporters saying, “why not bring in a bulldozer and mow them down?”. The media is what dictates the mood. Most people are followers so they just go along. No thought or logic.

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    • Some people like prison

    • This armed occupation has nothing to do with the hammonds. They did not ask for help from this gang of thugs.
      http://usuncut.com/news/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-oregon-militia-takeover/

    • The corporate US government are the only terrorists.

    • I agree with you micheil, and these thugs are no better.

    • ok so these people seem to be having a hard time realising it is not 1885 any more…it is like they are extras on cold mountain or something i get the it is my land i will burn it if i want to thing , but it is not. it is public land, and when they set fire to it there were campers that they were aware of and did it any way and there was a no fire ban to keep the fire fighters safe… shoot even one of their kin had to hide in a crick to avoid being burnt to death. the ‘child abuse’ i get most of it. i am from Montana i get teaching a lesson with a whole can of skoal or making you walk home alone( even if it is 10 miles, boys can be tough and they aren’t in the city they live at a ranch for crissake) …but the sandpapering off defacement of a young boys skin that is a bit much

    • Lest Oberg the more i look into what’s happening the more i think the link you provided is bang on.

    • The federal government is the largest criminal/terrorist organization ever to be allowed to exist in the United States!

    • Them family was not charged with terrorism. Nice try though

    • No they were charged with arson of government property which carries a mandatory 5 year sentence.

    • They couldn’t publicly ask for help as they were threatened with “a less attractive” prison to do their time in if they did.

    • Your meme is not only a misrepresentation of why they are going to jail, it has nothing to do with the terrorist that just took over a Federal Building.

    • Hahahahaha

    • Yes they need to be arrested and band from having guns.

    • NOT

    • Awww you didn’t know the Patriot act allows things like this? I guess you shouldn’t have voted republican.

    • @Tim “Voted republican” Your really missing the issue if you think voting democrat would fix anything, Obama reinstated the patriot act and Hillary would to. Even Bernie would keep it in place. The issue is, they are all bought out.

    • The people complaining about these things need educate themselves and vote in their best interest. If you want lesser government intervention, research candidates and vote for the one that best suits your needs. BTW they were arrested originally for ARSON- not terrorism… because the fire they set also burned down multiple acres of property that was not their own.

    • Rediculously inaccurate

    • Tim Robinson Considering the fact that the Patriot Act passed with overwhelming bi-partisan support (98-1 in the Senate) and has been extended multiple times under a Democratic president, your narrow-minded partisan perspective is completely asinine.

    • The Patriot act can’t or won’t be repealed anytime soon because of pressure from outside sources, DoD, CIA, FBI, DoJ. So if it wouldn’t have passed originally was the only way it could be stopped in our fear driven society. And it allows your rights to be violated.

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    • Some people like prison

    • This armed occupation has nothing to do with the hammonds. They did not ask for help from this gang of thugs.
      http://usuncut.com/news/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-oregon-militia-takeover/

    • The corporate US government are the only terrorists.

    • I agree with you micheil, and these thugs are no better.

    • Lest Oberg the more i look into what’s happening the more i think the link you provided is bang on.

    • Them family was not charged with terrorism. Nice try though

    • No they were charged with arson of government property which carries a mandatory 5 year sentence.

    • They couldn’t publicly ask for help as they were threatened with “a less attractive” prison to do their time in if they did.

    • Your meme is not only a misrepresentation of why they are going to jail, it has nothing to do with the terrorist that just took over a Federal Building.

    • Hahahahaha

    • Yes they need to be arrested and band from having guns.

    • NOT

    • Awww you didn’t know the Patriot act allows things like this? I guess you shouldn’t have voted republican.

    • @Tim “Voted republican” Your really missing the issue if you think voting democrat would fix anything, Obama reinstated the patriot act and Hillary would to. Even Bernie would keep it in place. The issue is, they are all bought out.

    • The people complaining about these things need educate themselves and vote in their best interest. If you want lesser government intervention, research candidates and vote for the one that best suits your needs. BTW they were arrested originally for ARSON- not terrorism… because the fire they set also burned down multiple acres of property that was not their own.

    • Rediculously inaccurate

    • Tim Robinson Considering the fact that the Patriot Act passed with overwhelming bi-partisan support (98-1 in the Senate) and has been extended multiple times under a Democratic president, your narrow-minded partisan perspective is completely asinine.

    • The Patriot act can’t or won’t be repealed anytime soon because of pressure from outside sources, DoD, CIA, FBI, DoJ. So if it wouldn’t have passed originally was the only way it could be stopped in our fear driven society. And it allows your rights to be violated.

  • Big difference between unarmed children and terrorists. Huge difference in protesters because of injustice by law enforcement and taking up arms and seizing a federal building. The people involved in the takeover are terrorists, they don’t get a pass because they haven’t harmed anyone….yet.

  • maybe they should go home and get laid

  • Not kill them, just send in the Marines and the all “circus” ends ! That’s all !

  • They were peaceful? I wonder if they’d felt threatened if it had been the other way around and the Feds showed up on their property with automatic weapons and said they would use any means necessary to enforce the law. These people don’t own the property and they’re fighting for a family that doesn’t want their help. They should have been made an example of.

  • Are the Americans in the discussion actively engaged in committing acts of treason or taking actions described by our government and the UN as terrorism and actively engaging in these terrorist acts against our government or US civilians? if you do not understand this, I may need to unlike and UN-follow your blog.

  • The thing that nobody seems to want to talk about is the core belief of these people that their rights supersede everyone else’s, which makes them no better than the government they claim to oppose. One solution would be to allow as many of them to gather there as want to, build a wall around them , legally cede the land to them and ban them from coming back to the United States. They could have their own little country to do whatever the fuck they want with.

  • Why are they there they need to communicate what their issues are for being there better

  • After reading these comments I’m afraid ive lost hope for the USA to fix itself.. Like Rome, America will fall . but only due to the peoples own ignorance and a rapid infection of mass schizophrenia caused by the mainstream media.

  • Dear The Free Thought Project.com, they are armed, and trespassing, and seditious. terrorists. period. if they were black, or hispanic, they’d be dead already. you’d cheer then, eh?

  • If people want to practice civil disobedience or break laws as a protest and sacrifice their liberty and time and money for a cause THEN GO FOR IT!

    But don’t piggyback some old man who wants nothing to do with you. Should I say don’t throw some old man under a bus?

  • “Neither Ammon Bundy nor anyone within his group/organization speak for the Hammond Family,”

  • Fuck the BLM and the FWS. They are heavy handed government at it’s absolute worst

  • What is happening here is that people who have no relationship or real care for this man are hijacking his unfortunate situation for their agenda.

    And in the long run it’s he who is going to suffer.

  • Yes

  • Yes

  • The man and his son were charged, did their time and now a judge decides to put them back in prison for four more years without due process?! That goes against the 4th and 5th amendments! These guys are standing up for the U.S. Constitution! Something liberal cowards would never dream of doing!

    • Sure, terrorizing a empty bird sancuary and gift shop constitutes as bravery…..bunch of whack jobs

    • The Constitution Is A Ungodly Thing…

    • Steve An Christina, The U.S. Constitution is what keep our nation free!

    • Ok,and if they were Muslim, would you be saying the same thing?

    • This isn’t about muslims. This is about the federal government overstepping it’s boundries!

    • ^^^ Wtf are you some kind of moron?

    • Jesi Carvalho, Liberal Logic 101: Ferguson and Baltimore were peaceful protests. But these militiamen, who haven’t burned any buildings or hurt anyone, in Burns Oregon are terrorists!

    • I’m a liberal.
      I’m literally saving money to leave the homestead for awhile and support them. If I I’m unable to leave (family), I’m going to support them and their cause every way I can; I’ve already started by promoting and explaining the situation to dozens of misinformed individuals in the hopes it will provide some minor help.

      But yeah,I guess I’m a coward that would never dream of defending the constitution, lol.

    • ^^^ refrain from donning the “liberal” title would probably help your cause

    • Jesi varvalho if the were muslims do you think they would be peaceful? Hmm maybe they would use a sharp knife to take your head.

    • Edward, considering the second largest religion in the US is Islam, your argument is completely invalid. Where are all the beheadings? Oh yeah, there aren’t any. You’re just a racist xenophobic bigot who hates Muslims, when Right Wing Christians commit 5 times more terrorist attacks in the US than Muslims do.

    • Chris Shane Corliss get your facts straight!! By law, arson on federal land carries a five-year mandatory minimum sentence. When the Hammonds were originally sentenced, they argued that the five-year mandatory minimum terms were unconstitutional and the trial court agreed and imposed sentences well below what the law required based upon the jury’s verdicts. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, however, upheld the federal law, reasoning that “given the seriousness of arson, a five-year sentence is not grossly disproportionate to the offense.” The court vacated the original, unlawful sentences and ordered that the Hammonds be resentenced “in compliance with the law.” In March 2015, the Supreme Court rejected the Hammonds’ petitions for certiorari. Chief Judge Aiken imposed five year prison terms on each of the Hammonds, with credit for time they already served.

    • So what?!
      You can’t punish someone for the same crime twice

      They did their time, they were released, that’s the end of it ! They can’t just grab citizens and throw them back in jail because they fucked up and gave them a lesser sentence.

    • Tucker Iacobacci, Almost all the terrorist attacks in the U.S. lately have been muslim. True Christians do NOT commit terrorists attacks! Those who commit these acts and claim they are Christian are liars! Besides, if it were muslims, the government would bend over backwards to accommodate them.

    • Adrian Grace, You’re one of the few.

    • I wouldn’t call myself a Liberal, but I am a Sanders supporter. I am also very pro-Constitution! This case wreaks of Double Jeopardy, 4th and 5th Amendments danced on and discarded. Not to mention that the basis of the Federal case is that the fires occurred on Federal Land. Lets go back to the Constitution… Article1, Section8, Clause17 Constitution of the United States outlines the reasons for the Federal Government to own land, and this particular land does not qualify.

    • Chris, first off that is a lie of epic proportions, Christians have attacked black churches, abortion clinics, ect, all very recently. True Muslims do NOT commit terrorist attacks.

      Oh what? Oh, Christians can’t commit terrorist attacks, but Muslims can. You’re fucking pathetic.

    • Chris, Christians have been the biggest terrorist throughout world history, and if you deny that, you know nothing of history nor do you know what is in the Bible.

      The Bible has more violent passages than the Qurran does, but do you know that? No, because I guarantee you haven’t even read the bible.

    • Those were NOT true Christians. And you might want to learn about the true history of Islam before you try to defending people who want to kill you if you don’t convert to Islam!

    • Heath Ogle they are doing it in washington state. trying to track down 3,200 convicts that were let out early. the aren’t trying them twice just applying the proper sentence. that’s what happens when you vote law and order republicans

    • Tucker Iacobacci, That’s Old Testament, not New Testament where the word Christian comes from. Christian = Christ Like

    • Todd Patterson, This is different. These guys served their sentence. It wasn’t until their original sentence was served that a judge decided it wasn’t long enough. HUGE difference.

    • Heath Ogle : Dude, the judge didn’t make the law and the law is clear. It is a law designed against terrorism. These people got caught up in what is likely a just law unjustly applied. So far so good? Then where is your outrage at the many people serving LIFE sentences because of technicalities? Again I ask, where is your outrage at other injustices? More likely, you simply enjoy jumping on bandwagons.

    • Tucker Iacobacci, I guarantee you haven’t read either the bible or the quran or you would see how ignorant and misinformed you last statement was.

    • Chris Shane Corliss What does saving a bird sanctuary have to do with whether or not people believe in the tooth fairy? The issue here is to save the refuge. I am so sick of American so-called Christians, who have to be the meanest people on earth.

    • Then you don’t know any real Christians based on that atheistic bias remark.

    • It’s about standing up for the U.S. Constitution. Something too many people have forgotten how to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4aw8a9gMfk&feature=share

    • They are Christians, whether you like it or not. All religions can be used for good or bad.

      Crusades, inquisition, the holocaust, Slavery, Jim Crow, ect, we’re all Christian based, and Christians used the Bible and Christianity as a reason for those atrocities.

      And Muslims around the world in huge numbers condemn Islamic terrorism, yet idiotic Christians like yourself, done condemn Christian terrorism, because you’re idiotic and bigoted.

    • I have read the bible, and most of the Qurran, which is why I state this. You obviously haven’t, so you don’t know what you are talking about.

    • And they are protesting because they are defending people who committed terrorist attacks by burning federal land, which has a mandatory minimum of 5 years, which wasn’t factored into their sentence, which now it is. There is no “double jeopardy” this is one sentence for one crime. They aren’t being retried for the same crime, they are simply serving their sentence, and what it should have been according to the law.

      You people defending these people are idiots who don’t know the law. Why is it so hard to actually look into what they did, and why they got the sentence they got. Why is it so hard to do that?

    • Chris Shane Corliss no different than the report a few weeks ago about the 3,200 convicts that were wrongfully released early due to sentencing errors in washington state going back 13 years . this is what happens when you vote tough on crime republican. but hey, most of those were for drug offences so who cares right?

    • Tucker Iacobacci, The Crusades, Were against muslims who were trying to invade Eurpoe. The Inquisitions, were done by Spanish Jesuits under the authority of the blasphemous vatican. And the holocaust was done by a madman. You really need to learn some history.

    • Tucker Iacobacci, And I do know the bible. The passages you’re referring to are Old Testament. Those are for our learning, not to be followed. New Testament is when Jesus came and He never commanded people to kill anyone. Christianity was born when Jesus Christ came, not before. Christian = Christ Like!

    • Todd Patterson, This is completely different. These guys served out there sentence. It wasn’t until they’re sentence was up that a crooked, unconstitutional judge decided to put them back in prison without due process.

    • Tucker Iacobacci, and as for Jim Crow and Segregation….. You can thank your beloved democrats for that. And a vast majority of them are NOT Christian. You keep blaming Christians and using them as an excuse to say what the muslims are doing is alright. You’re an idiot! Grow Up! What are you like 12? Not everything they tell you in school is true.

    • Tucker Iacobacci, Maybe this will let you in on who muslims are and what they’re really about…. https://gracethrufaith.com/end-times-prophecy/isaac-and-ishmael-then-and-now/

    • Armed takeover of a federal facility is not the way to deal with it.

    • Maybe not. But at least they’re getting the attention of the government and letting people know what’s really going on in America.

    • Tucker Iacobacci Why are you so quick to believe they were lawfully found guilty of a trumped up charge?

    • Chris Shane Corliss The holocaust never happened. You’ve just been fed a line by Zionist controlled media and you have digested it without reading the other side of the story. More Germans died of attrocities after their surrender than the number of Jews that died in the camps. Dig a little deeper for the buried truth.

    • Chris Shane Corliss OH brother. I enjoyed the read up until near the end..then it just went into more religious hogwash, iron age mythology in the 21st century ;-( I just wish that Jews, Muslims and Christians would kill each other off and leave the cilivized people who use reason alone in peace.

    • Dan Scott, The holocaust never happened?! How do you explain the mass grave of Jewish people found in Germany and Poland? And the Nazi “Death Camps”. I once met an old Jewish woman who was in one of those camps. She still had the number they gave her tattooed on her hand! You’re an idiot if you think it didn’t happen.

    • Brian Buckley, It’s atheistic ideas like your’s that’s sending America into moral chaos! Like it or not, America was founded on Christian principles. Last week, I heard it again: That oft-repeated urban legend that we’ve heard so often. This time, to my horror, I heard it from a well-educated pastor: “Our founding fathers were not Christians. They were deists, atheists, and agnostics.”

      Au contraire!

      The pilgrims, as you will recall, were, Christians fleeing Europe in order to escape religious persecution, and they literally began their stay in their new land with the words, “In the name of God, Amen.” “The pilgrims were followed to New England by the Puritans, who created bible-based commonwealths. Those commonwealths practiced the same sort of representative government as their church covenants. Those governmental covenants and compacts numbered more than 100, and were the foundation for our Constitution.

      New Haven (Connecticut) and Massachusetts were founded by Puritans who wanted to reform the Church of England, who later became known as Congregationalists. Roger Williams founded the colony of Rhode Island based on the principle of freedom of conscience. Pennsylvania was established by William Penn as a Quaker colony. Maryland was a haven for Catholics from Protestant England.

      America was indeed founded by bible-believing Christians and based on Christian principles. When they founded this country, the Founding Fathers envisioned a government that would promote and encourage Christianity.

      All but two of the first 108 universities founded in America were Christian. This includes the first, Harvard, where the student handbook listed this as Rule #1: “Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well, the main end of his life and studies is to know God and Jesus Christ, which is eternal life, John 17:3; and therefore to lay Jesus Christ as the only foundation for our children to follow the moral principles of the Ten Commandments.”

      In 1777. Continental Congress voted to spend $300,000 to purchase bibles which were to be distributed throughout the 13 colonies! And in 1782, the United States Congress declared, “The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.”

      So, let us take a look at some of the lives and words of our Founding Fathers to see whether they were Christians or whether history has been revised.” http://faithofourfathers.net/

  • The man and his son were charged, did their time and now a judge decides to put them back in prison for four more years without due process?! That goes against the 4th and 5th amendments! These guys are standing up for the U.S. Constitution! Something liberal cowards would never dream of doing!

    • Sure, terrorizing a empty bird sancuary and gift shop constitutes as bravery…..bunch of whack jobs

    • The Constitution Is A Ungodly Thing…

    • Steve An Christina, The U.S. Constitution is what keep our nation free!

    • Ok,and if they were Muslim, would you be saying the same thing?

    • This isn’t about muslims. This is about the federal government overstepping it’s boundries!

    • ^^^ Wtf are you some kind of moron?

    • Jesi Carvalho, Liberal Logic 101: Ferguson and Baltimore were peaceful protests. But these militiamen, who haven’t burned any buildings or hurt anyone, in Burns Oregon are terrorists!

    • I’m a liberal.
      I’m literally saving money to leave the homestead for awhile and support them. If I I’m unable to leave (family), I’m going to support them and their cause every way I can; I’ve already started by promoting and explaining the situation to dozens of misinformed individuals in the hopes it will provide some minor help.

      But yeah,I guess I’m a coward that would never dream of defending the constitution, lol.

    • ^^^ refrain from donning the “liberal” title would probably help your cause

    • Jesi varvalho if the were muslims do you think they would be peaceful? Hmm maybe they would use a sharp knife to take your head.

    • Edward, considering the second largest religion in the US is Islam, your argument is completely invalid. Where are all the beheadings? Oh yeah, there aren’t any. You’re just a racist xenophobic bigot who hates Muslims, when Right Wing Christians commit 5 times more terrorist attacks in the US than Muslims do.

    • Chris Shane Corliss get your facts straight!! By law, arson on federal land carries a five-year mandatory minimum sentence. When the Hammonds were originally sentenced, they argued that the five-year mandatory minimum terms were unconstitutional and the trial court agreed and imposed sentences well below what the law required based upon the jury’s verdicts. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, however, upheld the federal law, reasoning that “given the seriousness of arson, a five-year sentence is not grossly disproportionate to the offense.” The court vacated the original, unlawful sentences and ordered that the Hammonds be resentenced “in compliance with the law.” In March 2015, the Supreme Court rejected the Hammonds’ petitions for certiorari. Chief Judge Aiken imposed five year prison terms on each of the Hammonds, with credit for time they already served.

    • So what?!
      You can’t punish someone for the same crime twice

      They did their time, they were released, that’s the end of it ! They can’t just grab citizens and throw them back in jail because they fucked up and gave them a lesser sentence.

    • Tucker Iacobacci, Almost all the terrorist attacks in the U.S. lately have been muslim. True Christians do NOT commit terrorists attacks! Those who commit these acts and claim they are Christian are liars! Besides, if it were muslims, the government would bend over backwards to accommodate them.

    • Adrian Grace, You’re one of the few.

    • I wouldn’t call myself a Liberal, but I am a Sanders supporter. I am also very pro-Constitution! This case wreaks of Double Jeopardy, 4th and 5th Amendments danced on and discarded. Not to mention that the basis of the Federal case is that the fires occurred on Federal Land. Lets go back to the Constitution… Article1, Section8, Clause17 Constitution of the United States outlines the reasons for the Federal Government to own land, and this particular land does not qualify.

    • Chris, first off that is a lie of epic proportions, Christians have attacked black churches, abortion clinics, ect, all very recently. True Muslims do NOT commit terrorist attacks.

      Oh what? Oh, Christians can’t commit terrorist attacks, but Muslims can. You’re fucking pathetic.

    • Chris, Christians have been the biggest terrorist throughout world history, and if you deny that, you know nothing of history nor do you know what is in the Bible.

      The Bible has more violent passages than the Qurran does, but do you know that? No, because I guarantee you haven’t even read the bible.

    • Those were NOT true Christians. And you might want to learn about the true history of Islam before you try to defending people who want to kill you if you don’t convert to Islam!

    • Heath Ogle they are doing it in washington state. trying to track down 3,200 convicts that were let out early. the aren’t trying them twice just applying the proper sentence. that’s what happens when you vote law and order republicans

    • Tucker Iacobacci, That’s Old Testament, not New Testament where the word Christian comes from. Christian = Christ Like

    • Todd Patterson, This is different. These guys served their sentence. It wasn’t until their original sentence was served that a judge decided it wasn’t long enough. HUGE difference.

    • Heath Ogle : Dude, the judge didn’t make the law and the law is clear. It is a law designed against terrorism. These people got caught up in what is likely a just law unjustly applied. So far so good? Then where is your outrage at the many people serving LIFE sentences because of technicalities? Again I ask, where is your outrage at other injustices? More likely, you simply enjoy jumping on bandwagons.

    • Tucker Iacobacci, I guarantee you haven’t read either the bible or the quran or you would see how ignorant and misinformed you last statement was.

    • Chris Shane Corliss What does saving a bird sanctuary have to do with whether or not people believe in the tooth fairy? The issue here is to save the refuge. I am so sick of American so-called Christians, who have to be the meanest people on earth.

    • Then you don’t know any real Christians based on that atheistic bias remark.

    • It’s about standing up for the U.S. Constitution. Something too many people have forgotten how to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4aw8a9gMfk&feature=share

    • They are Christians, whether you like it or not. All religions can be used for good or bad.

      Crusades, inquisition, the holocaust, Slavery, Jim Crow, ect, we’re all Christian based, and Christians used the Bible and Christianity as a reason for those atrocities.

      And Muslims around the world in huge numbers condemn Islamic terrorism, yet idiotic Christians like yourself, done condemn Christian terrorism, because you’re idiotic and bigoted.

    • I have read the bible, and most of the Qurran, which is why I state this. You obviously haven’t, so you don’t know what you are talking about.

    • And they are protesting because they are defending people who committed terrorist attacks by burning federal land, which has a mandatory minimum of 5 years, which wasn’t factored into their sentence, which now it is. There is no “double jeopardy” this is one sentence for one crime. They aren’t being retried for the same crime, they are simply serving their sentence, and what it should have been according to the law.

      You people defending these people are idiots who don’t know the law. Why is it so hard to actually look into what they did, and why they got the sentence they got. Why is it so hard to do that?

    • Chris Shane Corliss no different than the report a few weeks ago about the 3,200 convicts that were wrongfully released early due to sentencing errors in washington state going back 13 years . this is what happens when you vote tough on crime republican. but hey, most of those were for drug offences so who cares right?

    • Tucker Iacobacci, The Crusades, Were against muslims who were trying to invade Eurpoe. The Inquisitions, were done by Spanish Jesuits under the authority of the blasphemous vatican. And the holocaust was done by a madman. You really need to learn some history.

    • Tucker Iacobacci, And I do know the bible. The passages you’re referring to are Old Testament. Those are for our learning, not to be followed. New Testament is when Jesus came and He never commanded people to kill anyone. Christianity was born when Jesus Christ came, not before. Christian = Christ Like!

    • Todd Patterson, This is completely different. These guys served out there sentence. It wasn’t until they’re sentence was up that a crooked, unconstitutional judge decided to put them back in prison without due process.

    • Tucker Iacobacci, and as for Jim Crow and Segregation….. You can thank your beloved democrats for that. And a vast majority of them are NOT Christian. You keep blaming Christians and using them as an excuse to say what the muslims are doing is alright. You’re an idiot! Grow Up! What are you like 12? Not everything they tell you in school is true.

    • Tucker Iacobacci, Maybe this will let you in on who muslims are and what they’re really about…. https://gracethrufaith.com/end-times-prophecy/isaac-and-ishmael-then-and-now/

    • Armed takeover of a federal facility is not the way to deal with it.

    • Maybe not. But at least they’re getting the attention of the government and letting people know what’s really going on in America.

    • Tucker Iacobacci Why are you so quick to believe they were lawfully found guilty of a trumped up charge?

    • Chris Shane Corliss The holocaust never happened. You’ve just been fed a line by Zionist controlled media and you have digested it without reading the other side of the story. More Germans died of attrocities after their surrender than the number of Jews that died in the camps. Dig a little deeper for the buried truth.

    • Chris Shane Corliss OH brother. I enjoyed the read up until near the end..then it just went into more religious hogwash, iron age mythology in the 21st century ;-( I just wish that Jews, Muslims and Christians would kill each other off and leave the cilivized people who use reason alone in peace.

    • Dan Scott, The holocaust never happened?! How do you explain the mass grave of Jewish people found in Germany and Poland? And the Nazi “Death Camps”. I once met an old Jewish woman who was in one of those camps. She still had the number they gave her tattooed on her hand! You’re an idiot if you think it didn’t happen.

    • Brian Buckley, It’s atheistic ideas like your’s that’s sending America into moral chaos! Like it or not, America was founded on Christian principles. Last week, I heard it again: That oft-repeated urban legend that we’ve heard so often. This time, to my horror, I heard it from a well-educated pastor: “Our founding fathers were not Christians. They were deists, atheists, and agnostics.”

      Au contraire!

      The pilgrims, as you will recall, were, Christians fleeing Europe in order to escape religious persecution, and they literally began their stay in their new land with the words, “In the name of God, Amen.” “The pilgrims were followed to New England by the Puritans, who created bible-based commonwealths. Those commonwealths practiced the same sort of representative government as their church covenants. Those governmental covenants and compacts numbered more than 100, and were the foundation for our Constitution.

      New Haven (Connecticut) and Massachusetts were founded by Puritans who wanted to reform the Church of England, who later became known as Congregationalists. Roger Williams founded the colony of Rhode Island based on the principle of freedom of conscience. Pennsylvania was established by William Penn as a Quaker colony. Maryland was a haven for Catholics from Protestant England.

      America was indeed founded by bible-believing Christians and based on Christian principles. When they founded this country, the Founding Fathers envisioned a government that would promote and encourage Christianity.

      All but two of the first 108 universities founded in America were Christian. This includes the first, Harvard, where the student handbook listed this as Rule #1: “Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well, the main end of his life and studies is to know God and Jesus Christ, which is eternal life, John 17:3; and therefore to lay Jesus Christ as the only foundation for our children to follow the moral principles of the Ten Commandments.”

      In 1777. Continental Congress voted to spend $300,000 to purchase bibles which were to be distributed throughout the 13 colonies! And in 1782, the United States Congress declared, “The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.”

      So, let us take a look at some of the lives and words of our Founding Fathers to see whether they were Christians or whether history has been revised.” http://faithofourfathers.net/

  • Well, since people have things to do…like living their lives and going to work…It’s pretty much safe to assume that they wouldn’t be out there if they didn’t need to be…

  • Well, since people have things to do…like living their lives and going to work…It’s pretty much safe to assume that they wouldn’t be out there if they didn’t need to be…

  • nope not criminal

  • nope not criminal

  • I agree with that person. The best solution is peace.

  • I agree with that person. The best solution is peace.

  • Question. DC breaks the law (constitution) all the time. So why shouldn’t we?

  • Question. DC breaks the law (constitution) all the time. So why shouldn’t we?

  • I always assume the government is lying.

  • I always assume the government is lying.

  • It needs done No one has been killed, no buildings have burned, everyone talks about change, but does nothing to change, tyrrany is taking place out here, that needs to be the focus!!!! sentenced twice for the same crime!!!!!

  • It needs done No one has been killed, no buildings have burned, everyone talks about change, but does nothing to change, tyrrany is taking place out here, that needs to be the focus!!!! sentenced twice for the same crime!!!!!

  • Rape and kill people long enough and you have to expect this kind of retaliation. It will only increase until we stand together for freedom from enslavement.

  • Rape and kill people long enough and you have to expect this kind of retaliation. It will only increase until we stand together for freedom from enslavement.

  • The Federal Government is breaking the law.

  • The Federal Government is breaking the law.

  • It needs to be done I applaud them !! I wish the world would follow suit and stop these tyrannous bastards who control us like puppets

  • It needs to be done I applaud them !! I wish the world would follow suit and stop these tyrannous bastards who control us like puppets

  • ARREST ALL OF THEM A.S.A.P…THEY DESERVE TO GO TO PRISON…

  • ARREST ALL OF THEM A.S.A.P…THEY DESERVE TO GO TO PRISON…

  • Lol I know BLM is fucked up but to try and justify what these ducks are doing is insane o and they only burned something like 127acres “no big deal”

    • That’s common practice in farming and ranching. For hundreds of years.

    • I get the picture, a white man gets hosed by the government so he can take over a building with all his gun nut friends, but anyone of color being fucked by the government better protest without guns cause they will die. Do you get it?

    • Ya I live in NorCal don’t tell me about burning, farmers do it here to but it’s crazy regulated because we realized after hundreds of years it has a negative affect on the planet. So they follow laws to do it legally, but this is all side notes to the real racist fucked up truth white people still have privileges others don’t

  • Lol I know BLM is fucked up but to try and justify what these ducks are doing is insane o and they only burned something like 127acres “no big deal”

    • That’s common practice in farming and ranching. For hundreds of years.

    • I get the picture, a white man gets hosed by the government so he can take over a building with all his gun nut friends, but anyone of color being fucked by the government better protest without guns cause they will die. Do you get it?

    • Ya I live in NorCal don’t tell me about burning, farmers do it here to but it’s crazy regulated because we realized after hundreds of years it has a negative affect on the planet. So they follow laws to do it legally, but this is all side notes to the real racist fucked up truth white people still have privileges others don’t

  • i wish that we fought harder for important things and ignored the side shows. this world is run by arseholes (govt) who we elect and pay and then complain about what they do. how about lets stop paying to be killers and killed and start working together to achieve a world of abundance?

  • i wish that we fought harder for important things and ignored the side shows. this world is run by arseholes (govt) who we elect and pay and then complain about what they do. how about lets stop paying to be killers and killed and start working together to achieve a world of abundance?

  • Double Jeopardy anyone?….. I guess the government didn’t catch that movie…..

    • They weren’t convicted twice, they’re just being required to serve their entire sentence. Not the same thing at all…

    • Lmao AFTER they get home they hit em up for 5 more years in prison? If you think that’s right or fair, you’re prolly a libtard. Ita fuckin douvle jeopardy they went and did their time, then after they gt gome they hit em up fpr 5 more years in the pen for the same “terrorism” charges. I smell BULLSHIT

    • If you think that what you just typed can be considered anything even remotely close to English, you’re probably a tea-bagger. I didn’t say it was right or fair, all I said was it’s not Double Jeopardy. Which it isn’t.

    • If you don’t have the mental capacity to read theu a few typos, I don’t think you should be arguing law…… lmao and how is it not? How can they send em to prison, release them and say they served their time, then come back and lock em up again for twice as long as they served originally, for THE SAME “CRIME”, you can’t just extend the sentence after its served lmao THEY CHARGED THEM AGAIN for the same occurance…. That is the definition of double jeopardy.

    • No they did not charge them again. They are making them serve the entire sentence they already had handed down.

      Double Jeopardy is when a person is tried and either found guilty or not guilty, then re-tried without any new evidence. That is NOT what happened here.

      And to your “few typos”, I have seen dogs peck out more coherent thoughts. If you spent half as much time reading and learning how to properly communicate as you did jerking off on your guns you’d understand just how silly you sound trying to insult my intelligence while not being able to even type “the” without a typo.

      Pathetic…

    • Whatever you say Gingerman, I bet you see alotta dogs since you clearly don’t have that many friends, and as to your “intelligence” …… yea………..itl hit you one day lmao

  • Double Jeopardy anyone?….. I guess the government didn’t catch that movie…..

    • They weren’t convicted twice, they’re just being required to serve their entire sentence. Not the same thing at all…

    • Lmao AFTER they get home they hit em up for 5 more years in prison? If you think that’s right or fair, you’re prolly a libtard. Ita fuckin douvle jeopardy they went and did their time, then after they gt gome they hit em up fpr 5 more years in the pen for the same “terrorism” charges. I smell BULLSHIT

    • If you think that what you just typed can be considered anything even remotely close to English, you’re probably a tea-bagger. I didn’t say it was right or fair, all I said was it’s not Double Jeopardy. Which it isn’t.

    • If you don’t have the mental capacity to read theu a few typos, I don’t think you should be arguing law…… lmao and how is it not? How can they send em to prison, release them and say they served their time, then come back and lock em up again for twice as long as they served originally, for THE SAME “CRIME”, you can’t just extend the sentence after its served lmao THEY CHARGED THEM AGAIN for the same occurance…. That is the definition of double jeopardy.

    • No they did not charge them again. They are making them serve the entire sentence they already had handed down.

      Double Jeopardy is when a person is tried and either found guilty or not guilty, then re-tried without any new evidence. That is NOT what happened here.

      And to your “few typos”, I have seen dogs peck out more coherent thoughts. If you spent half as much time reading and learning how to properly communicate as you did jerking off on your guns you’d understand just how silly you sound trying to insult my intelligence while not being able to even type “the” without a typo.

      Pathetic…

    • Whatever you say Gingerman, I bet you see alotta dogs since you clearly don’t have that many friends, and as to your “intelligence” …… yea………..itl hit you one day lmao

  • They should be in jail..Soon!

  • They should be in jail..Soon!

  • More interested how the fed will cope at this time honestly.

  • More interested how the fed will cope at this time honestly.

  • If their true intent was to protect and preserve the land they should be left alone!

  • If their true intent was to protect and preserve the land they should be left alone!

  • I think they got national and international attention and should be allowed to protest but put the guns away..

  • I think they got national and international attention and should be allowed to protest but put the guns away..

  • The law has nothing to do with what is right.

  • The law has nothing to do with what is right.

  • 100% behind the Hammond family

  • 100% behind the Hammond family

  • I think they are justified. I am scared at how many statists there are that see nothing wrong with what is happening to them, and people so eager to slap the word “terrorists” on those that refuse to comply with stupidity.

  • I think they are justified. I am scared at how many statists there are that see nothing wrong with what is happening to them, and people so eager to slap the word “terrorists” on those that refuse to comply with stupidity.

  • Definelty justified! Why is it when white people want to make a point we are assholes got to love it!! So sick of it being about race when that is not what it is about! White people they get away with it! Sick of that shit! How about we are all equal and no matter what race this is justified! Know the story!

  • Definelty justified! Why is it when white people want to make a point we are assholes got to love it!! So sick of it being about race when that is not what it is about! White people they get away with it! Sick of that shit! How about we are all equal and no matter what race this is justified! Know the story!

  • Me siding with the government? Ha that’ll be the day! Besides this whole thing is crap!!

  • Me siding with the government? Ha that’ll be the day! Besides this whole thing is crap!!

  • The BLM needs to be dismantled. They do more harm than good, but this will not get attention they’re trying to get by committing an act of “domestic terrorism.” If they were Muslims, they’d be dead already, why are we not seeing the hypocrisy of this situation?

    • Erik Blm are not mentioned in this post it’s about the Hammonds this white family..what is the Blm involvement in this ..just wondering wtf you taking about

    • BLM = Bureau of Land Management.

    • Joe, do you not know what started all of this?

    • “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” – Speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 14, 1778

      “That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.” – Virginia Declaration of Rights, June 12, 1776

      Richard Henry Lee, Anti-Federalist

      “A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves… and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms… The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle.” – Letters From the Federal Farmer to the Republican, Letter XVIII, January 25, 1788

      “(W)hereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them nor does it follow from this, that all promiscuously must go into actual service on every occasion. The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it, whenever they can prevail, no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it.” – Federal Farmer, Anti-Federalist Letter, No.18, The Pennsylvania Gazette, February 20, 1788

    • And since “domestic terrorism ” was used. I see this as such, which also makes the Hammond case so ridiculous.

      https://youtu.be/D_iT7EPBeNk

  • The BLM needs to be dismantled. They do more harm than good, but this will not get attention they’re trying to get by committing an act of “domestic terrorism.” If they were Muslims, they’d be dead already, why are we not seeing the hypocrisy of this situation?

    • Erik Blm are not mentioned in this post it’s about the Hammonds this white family..what is the Blm involvement in this ..just wondering wtf you taking about

    • BLM = Bureau of Land Management.

    • Joe, do you not know what started all of this?

    • “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” – Speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 14, 1778

      “That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.” – Virginia Declaration of Rights, June 12, 1776

      Richard Henry Lee, Anti-Federalist

      “A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves… and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms… The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle.” – Letters From the Federal Farmer to the Republican, Letter XVIII, January 25, 1788

      “(W)hereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them nor does it follow from this, that all promiscuously must go into actual service on every occasion. The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it, whenever they can prevail, no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it.” – Federal Farmer, Anti-Federalist Letter, No.18, The Pennsylvania Gazette, February 20, 1788

    • And since “domestic terrorism ” was used. I see this as such, which also makes the Hammond case so ridiculous.

      https://youtu.be/D_iT7EPBeNk

  • It appears that the negative effects of fluoride, vaccinations, and marxist communist indoctrination are finally catching up to us. Congratulations, we now have multiple generations of unknowingly genocidal maniacs. Go read the Constitution of the United States of America, the Bill of Rights, the Federalist Papers, and the Declaration of Independence. Hope this helps.
    Ending corruption is everyone’s fight. Unite, or die.

  • It appears that the negative effects of fluoride, vaccinations, and marxist communist indoctrination are finally catching up to us. Congratulations, we now have multiple generations of unknowingly genocidal maniacs. Go read the Constitution of the United States of America, the Bill of Rights, the Federalist Papers, and the Declaration of Independence. Hope this helps.
    Ending corruption is everyone’s fight. Unite, or die.

  • Support. Support. Support. I love all the people who are constantly saying government needs to go in the various communities I follow, and these same people are literally calling for these guys execution. Hilarious

  • Support. Support. Support. I love all the people who are constantly saying government needs to go in the various communities I follow, and these same people are literally calling for these guys execution. Hilarious

  • You are a fucking racist. stop wit your ugly ass posting all this race baiting shit.

    Sorry you are so butthurt you spend your days on facebook posting racist memes you racist ugly fuck. Get that nasty thing taken off your face.

  • You are a fucking racist. stop wit your ugly ass posting all this race baiting shit.

    Sorry you are so butthurt you spend your days on facebook posting racist memes you racist ugly fuck. Get that nasty thing taken off your face.

  • Yes.

  • Yes.

  • Lmao that is pure gold.

    Yup, the Black Panthers were oh so loving to everyone.

  • Lmao that is pure gold.

    Yup, the Black Panthers were oh so loving to everyone.

  • Leave them alone and they’ll go home.
    When it’s safe.

  • Leave them alone and they’ll go home.
    When it’s safe.

  • Get a new fucking meme, you’ve posted these already you racist pig.

  • Get a new fucking meme, you’ve posted these already you racist pig.

  • Anyone calling for drone strikes is not american

  • Anyone calling for drone strikes is not american

  • .
    ” This government was founded by, of, and for the people
    but everybody feels it like a giant open sore
    they don’t represent us anymore ”
    — Woody Harrelson, Thoughts from Within

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj0GZQdCct8

  • .
    ” This government was founded by, of, and for the people
    but everybody feels it like a giant open sore
    they don’t represent us anymore ”
    — Woody Harrelson, Thoughts from Within

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj0GZQdCct8

  • Hell yes i stand with them

  • Hell yes i stand with them

  • 100% of us don’t care what your race baiting ugly ass has to say.

    Fuck off you racist.

  • 100% of us don’t care what your race baiting ugly ass has to say.

    Fuck off you racist.

  • I’m glad I live in Texas where there is almost no Federal land.

  • I’m glad I live in Texas where there is almost no Federal land.

  • Isn,t that their oppressors flag there waving?? :/

  • Isn,t that their oppressors flag there waving?? :/

  • at this point they aren’t doing anything illegal – they are armed on public land, and haven’t stopped anyone from coming and going

  • at this point they aren’t doing anything illegal – they are armed on public land, and haven’t stopped anyone from coming and going

  • Absolutely not justified, you can not pick up your gun because you don’t agree with legislation. That will be the end of democracy. . Are you stupid

    • We are supposed to have a constitutional republic, not a democracy. We don’t have a democracy either. We have an oligarchal dictatorship. You aren’t paying attention closely enough.

    • You voted for and this is what you get. There is no justification to pick up gun. Because everyone has his own cause. That means everyone is justified to pickup the gun if things don’t go their way… what about police brutality. There should be a freaking war been going on by now. Every body gun blasting. .
      The Hammonds’ run-ins with the government began in 1999, when Steven Hammond started a fire that escaped onto U.S. Bureau of Land Management territory. The intent of the fire was to burn off juniper and sagebrush that hindered the growth of grass for their cattle.

      BLM employees reminded Steven Hammond that although his family leased public land for grazing, he couldn’t burn it without a permit. But in September 2001, the Hammonds started another fire. This one ran off their property on Steens Mountain, consumed 139 acres of public land and took the acreage out of production for two growing seasons, according to court papers.

      Then in August 2006, lightning sparked several fires near the spot where the Hammonds grew their winter feed. Steven Hammond set a back-burn to thwart the advancing flames, and it burned across about an acre of public land, according to federal court records.

      A jury in June 2012 found the Hammonds guilty of arson for the 2001 blaze that came to be called the Hardie-Hammond Fire. Steven Hammond also was convicted for arson in the 2006 Krumbo Butte Fire.

      The convictions were punishable by a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison under the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, which followed the Oklahoma City bombing and other deadly acts of domestic terrorism. But on Oct. 30, 2012, U.S. District Judge Michael R. Hogan, presiding in his last sentencing before leaving the bench, said the Hammonds’ conduct wasn’t in keeping with the intentions of the law.

  • Absolutely not justified, you can not pick up your gun because you don’t agree with legislation. That will be the end of democracy. . Are you stupid

    • We are supposed to have a constitutional republic, not a democracy. We don’t have a democracy either. We have an oligarchal dictatorship. You aren’t paying attention closely enough.

    • You voted for and this is what you get. There is no justification to pick up gun. Because everyone has his own cause. That means everyone is justified to pickup the gun if things don’t go their way… what about police brutality. There should be a freaking war been going on by now. Every body gun blasting. .
      The Hammonds’ run-ins with the government began in 1999, when Steven Hammond started a fire that escaped onto U.S. Bureau of Land Management territory. The intent of the fire was to burn off juniper and sagebrush that hindered the growth of grass for their cattle.

      BLM employees reminded Steven Hammond that although his family leased public land for grazing, he couldn’t burn it without a permit. But in September 2001, the Hammonds started another fire. This one ran off their property on Steens Mountain, consumed 139 acres of public land and took the acreage out of production for two growing seasons, according to court papers.

      Then in August 2006, lightning sparked several fires near the spot where the Hammonds grew their winter feed. Steven Hammond set a back-burn to thwart the advancing flames, and it burned across about an acre of public land, according to federal court records.

      A jury in June 2012 found the Hammonds guilty of arson for the 2001 blaze that came to be called the Hardie-Hammond Fire. Steven Hammond also was convicted for arson in the 2006 Krumbo Butte Fire.

      The convictions were punishable by a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison under the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, which followed the Oklahoma City bombing and other deadly acts of domestic terrorism. But on Oct. 30, 2012, U.S. District Judge Michael R. Hogan, presiding in his last sentencing before leaving the bench, said the Hammonds’ conduct wasn’t in keeping with the intentions of the law.

  • The gripe is legit, the armed occupation is not.

  • The gripe is legit, the armed occupation is not.

  • Justified

  • One things for sure. A lot of “social justice warriors” are showing their true racist colors here.

    People are standing up to the same tyrannical government you all are, but you want them shot because they are white and it’s not fair, white privilege blah blah blah.

    Read the fucking story instead of being ignorant racists. These dudes are trying to do some double jeopardy shit here and charge them again for crimes already served time for.

    That should piss you off, not the fact they are white and have guns.

    Racists.

  • One things for sure. A lot of “social justice warriors” are showing their true racist colors here.

    People are standing up to the same tyrannical government you all are, but you want them shot because they are white and it’s not fair, white privilege blah blah blah.

    Read the fucking story instead of being ignorant racists. These dudes are trying to do some double jeopardy shit here and charge them again for crimes already served time for.

    That should piss you off, not the fact they are white and have guns.

    Racists.

  • Compromise !

  • Compromise !

  • Ppl who would them terrorist are demonizing them so if the government does a Waco style attack on em they won’t feel guilty. Now the Hammonds don’t want to stand against what’s been done to them so the cliven bundy’s & the rest should let this one go because the msm progressives & pages like The Free Thought Project.com will just demonize them & twist the truth.

  • Ppl who would them terrorist are demonizing them so if the government does a Waco style attack on em they won’t feel guilty. Now the Hammonds don’t want to stand against what’s been done to them so the cliven bundy’s & the rest should let this one go because the msm progressives & pages like The Free Thought Project.com will just demonize them & twist the truth.

  • If the rioters in Chicago can go rod kill steal and disrespect the law then these people should be left alone they aren’t rioting beating people Cus they aren’t animals like those others

  • If the rioters in Chicago can go rod kill steal and disrespect the law then these people should be left alone they aren’t rioting beating people Cus they aren’t animals like those others

  • Holy shit those bundy domestic terrorists sure did attack us real hard! What’s the death count at this time? Still zero? 1/3/16 Never Forget!

  • Holy shit those bundy domestic terrorists sure did attack us real hard! What’s the death count at this time? Still zero? 1/3/16 Never Forget!

  • The Land doesn’t Belong to any of you It’s Belongs to the Native Americans you all are making yourselves look dumb fucking waste of time

  • The Land doesn’t Belong to any of you It’s Belongs to the Native Americans you all are making yourselves look dumb fucking waste of time

  • Peaceful protest. Justified. Any case you make against them apply to other protests and see how wrong and hypocritical you are. Carrying a weapon does not make you a terrorist contrary to popular belief. Its a right we have that’s constitutionally protected. Get over yourselves hippy liberals.

    • Carrying a gun is not criminal, but taking over a federal building with the threat of violence is not only a crime, but the literal definition of terrorism.

      Call me a hippy liberal all you want, it doesn’t make me wrong…

  • Peaceful protest. Justified. Any case you make against them apply to other protests and see how wrong and hypocritical you are. Carrying a weapon does not make you a terrorist contrary to popular belief. Its a right we have that’s constitutionally protected. Get over yourselves hippy liberals.

    • Carrying a gun is not criminal, but taking over a federal building with the threat of violence is not only a crime, but the literal definition of terrorism.

      Call me a hippy liberal all you want, it doesn’t make me wrong…

  • The Hammonds’ run-ins with the government began in 1999, when Steven Hammond started a fire that escaped onto U.S. Bureau of Land Management territory. The intent of the fire was to burn off juniper and sagebrush that hindered the growth of grass for their cattle.

    BLM employees reminded Steven Hammond that although his family leased public land for grazing, he couldn’t burn it without a permit. But in September 2001, the Hammonds started another fire. This one ran off their property on Steens Mountain, consumed 139 acres of public land and took the acreage out of production for two growing seasons, according to court papers.

    Then in August 2006, lightning sparked several fires near the spot where the Hammonds grew their winter feed. Steven Hammond set a back-burn to thwart the advancing flames, and it burned across about an acre of public land, according to federal court records.

    A jury in June 2012 found the Hammonds guilty of arson for the 2001 blaze that came to be called the Hardie-Hammond Fire. Steven Hammond also was convicted for arson in the 2006 Krumbo Butte Fire.

    The convictions were punishable by a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison under the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, which followed the Oklahoma City bombing and other deadly acts of domestic terrorism. But on Oct. 30, 2012, U.S. District Judge Michael R. Hogan, presiding in his last sentencing before leaving the bench, said the Hammonds’ conduct wasn’t in keeping with the intentions of the law.

  • The Hammonds’ run-ins with the government began in 1999, when Steven Hammond started a fire that escaped onto U.S. Bureau of Land Management territory. The intent of the fire was to burn off juniper and sagebrush that hindered the growth of grass for their cattle.

    BLM employees reminded Steven Hammond that although his family leased public land for grazing, he couldn’t burn it without a permit. But in September 2001, the Hammonds started another fire. This one ran off their property on Steens Mountain, consumed 139 acres of public land and took the acreage out of production for two growing seasons, according to court papers.

    Then in August 2006, lightning sparked several fires near the spot where the Hammonds grew their winter feed. Steven Hammond set a back-burn to thwart the advancing flames, and it burned across about an acre of public land, according to federal court records.

    A jury in June 2012 found the Hammonds guilty of arson for the 2001 blaze that came to be called the Hardie-Hammond Fire. Steven Hammond also was convicted for arson in the 2006 Krumbo Butte Fire.

    The convictions were punishable by a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison under the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, which followed the Oklahoma City bombing and other deadly acts of domestic terrorism. But on Oct. 30, 2012, U.S. District Judge Michael R. Hogan, presiding in his last sentencing before leaving the bench, said the Hammonds’ conduct wasn’t in keeping with the intentions of the law.

  • hope the feds get you when this is done

  • hope the feds get you when this is done

  • How many people have been displaced or threatened because the government wanted their land? Maybe it’s time we review some of the things that are going on in government. We already know they aren’t working for the people and getting kick backs from lobbyists not to mention guaranteed incomes after retirement…We desperately need term limits. I’ve heard a million different stories on this… I don’t claim to know what the truth is, I’m just saying that if the government took my land and framed me, (which is the story they are telling) I’d be pretty pissed off too.

  • How many people have been displaced or threatened because the government wanted their land? Maybe it’s time we review some of the things that are going on in government. We already know they aren’t working for the people and getting kick backs from lobbyists not to mention guaranteed incomes after retirement…We desperately need term limits. I’ve heard a million different stories on this… I don’t claim to know what the truth is, I’m just saying that if the government took my land and framed me, (which is the story they are telling) I’d be pretty pissed off too.

  • Psy-op going right in hand with the gun legislation Puppet Obama is about to address. Its used to make gun owners and real militias look bad and for people to look at them and be like “Hey, see! This is why we need to take guns away!” There are real patriots there but they are being lead astray and into a dead end as what usually happens with any big movement that gets media attention

  • Psy-op going right in hand with the gun legislation Puppet Obama is about to address. Its used to make gun owners and real militias look bad and for people to look at them and be like “Hey, see! This is why we need to take guns away!” There are real patriots there but they are being lead astray and into a dead end as what usually happens with any big movement that gets media attention

  • It isn’t the militia. It is just Bundy, a government provocateur and a few followers. The militia, 3%ers and oathkeepers have disavowed this action.

    • My local San BErnardino CA Oathkeepers are on the Militias side

  • It isn’t the militia. It is just Bundy, a government provocateur and a few followers. The militia, 3%ers and oathkeepers have disavowed this action.

    • My local San BErnardino CA Oathkeepers are on the Militias side

  • What amazes me is how many anti-gun liberals are foaming at the mouth for state sanctioned violence.

  • What amazes me is how many anti-gun liberals are foaming at the mouth for state sanctioned violence.

  • Can’t help but wonder what native Americans are thinking about this. I mean, it’s not like this land wasn’t stolen by the gubmit in the first place.

    • I am native and I stand by them.. this is the same thing the government did to my ancestors. A stand needs to made at some point.. I do not speak for all native people just me ..

    • I am 18.75% native and I stand with them. I would also stand by Natives that did something similar

    • well considering some of the land was taken from the ranchers, for reservations, without indians……nah, none of this should raise any eyebrows.

    • The land these terrorists are trying to wrest for the federal government is owned by the Burns Paiute Tribe of Oregon. The land was acquired legally and was set aside to use for the wildlife and with agreement by the two entities the federal government is managing the land for the tribe. I am a full blood Lakota from South Dakota but I was married to a Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs Ore. woman and have lived in Oregon for almost 30 years. I have some friends from the Burns Paiute Reservation. Most I believe are not to happy that an armed group of American Terrorists are using that area to try to achieve what they are trying to.The word Patriots was used, I think the patriots are fighting against ISIS.

    • Here’s some historical context. Best I could find without access to some of Oregon’s records.

      http://digital.library.okstate.edu/icc/v04/iccv04p571a.pdf

  • Can’t help but wonder what native Americans are thinking about this. I mean, it’s not like this land wasn’t stolen by the gubmit in the first place.

    • I am native and I stand by them.. this is the same thing the government did to my ancestors. A stand needs to made at some point.. I do not speak for all native people just me ..

    • I am 18.75% native and I stand with them. I would also stand by Natives that did something similar

    • well considering some of the land was taken from the ranchers, for reservations, without indians……nah, none of this should raise any eyebrows.

    • The land these terrorists are trying to wrest for the federal government is owned by the Burns Paiute Tribe of Oregon. The land was acquired legally and was set aside to use for the wildlife and with agreement by the two entities the federal government is managing the land for the tribe. I am a full blood Lakota from South Dakota but I was married to a Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs Ore. woman and have lived in Oregon for almost 30 years. I have some friends from the Burns Paiute Reservation. Most I believe are not to happy that an armed group of American Terrorists are using that area to try to achieve what they are trying to.The word Patriots was used, I think the patriots are fighting against ISIS.

    • Here’s some historical context. Best I could find without access to some of Oregon’s records.

      http://digital.library.okstate.edu/icc/v04/iccv04p571a.pdf

  • Just don’t break the law!!

  • Just don’t break the law!!

  • Terrorism can be justified, but its still terrorism.

  • Terrorism can be justified, but its still terrorism.

  • Because militias are all white. Be mad at the media. Be mad at the establishment. The average white, middle to poor class American receives no benefit from white privilege. I can’t buy a pistol due to my father’s criminal background whom I’ve had no contact with. I cannot receive any government aid due to my job paying me too much. I cannot get loans, due to a bad credit score my father destroyed when I was a teenager. Which the system knows and still refuses to change. I don’t get breaks from the law. In fact I have 6 tickets from a two week period for a broken tailight, then my taillights went out, didn’t have my new insurance card in the vehicle, and the courts never cleared my.ticket from my job when I got a ticket in my work vehicle for a cracked windshield. I could continue, but don’t try and push your hogwash rhetoric because you’re mad at the establishment.

  • Because militias are all white. Be mad at the media. Be mad at the establishment. The average white, middle to poor class American receives no benefit from white privilege. I can’t buy a pistol due to my father’s criminal background whom I’ve had no contact with. I cannot receive any government aid due to my job paying me too much. I cannot get loans, due to a bad credit score my father destroyed when I was a teenager. Which the system knows and still refuses to change. I don’t get breaks from the law. In fact I have 6 tickets from a two week period for a broken tailight, then my taillights went out, didn’t have my new insurance card in the vehicle, and the courts never cleared my.ticket from my job when I got a ticket in my work vehicle for a cracked windshield. I could continue, but don’t try and push your hogwash rhetoric because you’re mad at the establishment.

  • Someone needs to stand up to our corrupt government I applaud these guys for taking the first step and there not blowing up shit or killing people so anyone who calls them terrorist can suck a dick. Standing up for each other and our rights is what makes us Americans!

  • Someone needs to stand up to our corrupt government I applaud these guys for taking the first step and there not blowing up shit or killing people so anyone who calls them terrorist can suck a dick. Standing up for each other and our rights is what makes us Americans!

  • We should all be rallying behind this family. We all need to come together and stop this nonsense that we call the Police and government. The police killed over 1100 innocent people in 2015 and if statistics prove right double or triple that number in 2016. I for one demand an end to this tyrannical nightmare where the government and police protect the interests of corporations and have no value on human life. We lost our country when the people in 1913 allowed the corporations to enact the federal reserve bank. Now 103 years later we are well over due for a new American revolution.

  • We should all be rallying behind this family. We all need to come together and stop this nonsense that we call the Police and government. The police killed over 1100 innocent people in 2015 and if statistics prove right double or triple that number in 2016. I for one demand an end to this tyrannical nightmare where the government and police protect the interests of corporations and have no value on human life. We lost our country when the people in 1913 allowed the corporations to enact the federal reserve bank. Now 103 years later we are well over due for a new American revolution.

  • By blaming racial problems on another race make you a racist as well.

  • By blaming racial problems on another race make you a racist as well.

  • They are justified, and breaking the law.

  • They are justified, and breaking the law.

  • Taking a stand? “American Patriots?”….In a empty bird sanctuary and gift shop?

    I cant stop laughing…

  • Taking a stand? “American Patriots?”….In a empty bird sanctuary and gift shop?

    I cant stop laughing…

  • You’re so caught up in the past and what happened in history. You have become racist. You are one of the worst people i have ever seen and you’re i think you’re an absolute dick. Not because you’re black but because you’re an absolute dick about it.

  • You’re so caught up in the past and what happened in history. You have become racist. You are one of the worst people i have ever seen and you’re i think you’re an absolute dick. Not because you’re black but because you’re an absolute dick about it.

  • I not understand the issue or know anything about… but the idea of peaceful assembly and concealed or open carry weapons… I not understand how that is mixed together… and still be a lawful assembly… but it worked for them…

  • I not understand the issue or know anything about… but the idea of peaceful assembly and concealed or open carry weapons… I not understand how that is mixed together… and still be a lawful assembly… but it worked for them…

  • They are terrorists

  • They are terrorists

  • Revolutionary

  • Revolutionary

  • Fine. Now I am going out and decide which piece of land I want to claim. I will take my gun to be sure that I am respected!

  • Fine. Now I am going out and decide which piece of land I want to claim. I will take my gun to be sure that I am respected!

  • It’s impossible to strong arm the federal government and their war machines plus ammo to infinite. Beg’s the question.. Would real patriots do this? I don’t think so. Holding the III% flag.. Now idiot liberals and the rest of the brain dead f will say constitutionals are extreme turning them into another boogeyman and turning people against the ones who stand for this Constitutional Republic.. See how that works.

    • Nah, real patriots never did this….

    • also our civilian population houses more Arms, than several countries militaries combined.

    • You understand why the civilian populous was meant to be armed, right? It’s so that if we had to turn against our government, we would have such great numbers that it would be hopeless to kill us all off. Of course many would die, but it’s meant to be a deterrent first and foremost.

  • It’s impossible to strong arm the federal government and their war machines plus ammo to infinite. Beg’s the question.. Would real patriots do this? I don’t think so. Holding the III% flag.. Now idiot liberals and the rest of the brain dead f will say constitutionals are extreme turning them into another boogeyman and turning people against the ones who stand for this Constitutional Republic.. See how that works.

    • Nah, real patriots never did this….

    • also our civilian population houses more Arms, than several countries militaries combined.

    • You understand why the civilian populous was meant to be armed, right? It’s so that if we had to turn against our government, we would have such great numbers that it would be hopeless to kill us all off. Of course many would die, but it’s meant to be a deterrent first and foremost.

  • Youre going to defend your points with memes? This is why the majority of other activist groups aren’t keen on supporting the BLM. It has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with ignorance.

  • Youre going to defend your points with memes? This is why the majority of other activist groups aren’t keen on supporting the BLM. It has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with ignorance.

  • These guys aren’t even a militia. They’re a bunch of hicks playing army at a shack in the woods that happens to be owned by the government. All to free someone who burned over a hundred acres of land to scare out game to poach. I’m all for checking government authority and defending the Constitution, but that’s not what this is.

    • It wasn’t federal land. It was family land. And what do you think a militia is?

    • Matt sounds super informed on the overall issue.

    • The fire spread to federal lands, actually.

    • Suck a dick you government bootlicker

    • I don’t even need to insult you dude. Being a Jaguars fan is a fate worse than death

    • That fire was started on their land to stop an approaching wildfire, The fire spread over an invisible line and they both spent time in jail. Now the govt wants them to go back to jail to spend the full term, They did time and now the govt is pushing harder because of the resources on their land and this Militia is there to ensure bullshit like that is stopped.

    • Yes because seizing a cabin in the woods is really going to get that done.

    • We’re talking about it now. Seems like it’s working

    • Most people, myself included, aren’t taking these guys seriously. Calling them a militia or even terrorists gives credibility that they don’t deserve.

    • So because the government said they were poaching that’s it? They wouldn’t lie, or mislead the public ever? They are forcing the family to sell their ranch which all proceeds will go to the $400,000 fine levied on them, they can’t sell anything over $500 without permission, and after a judge (who thought the whole situation was unfair to begin with) sentenced them and they did their time, they have to go back to prison without due process. And this is ok? Obviously how these men are protesting isn’t the correct way, but I hardly think killing them is the answer.

    • I never said they should be killed….

    • That’s true the article asked if Drones should be used. You did not. My bad. But still.

    • I don’t have much good to say about the US using drones in general

    • Coming from a mets fan. Kc whipped your sorry asses.

    • We weren’t even supposed to be there dude lmao. The Mets are young. They’re good ahead of schedule. Have fun repeating without Gordon, Cueto, or Zobrist ?

    • They have the fine down to 200,000. And maybe e everyone should do some real research. Before opening there mouths.

    • the hammonds started the fire during a fire ban without notifying the fire dept to try to save winter feed which spread to public land endangering firefighters in the area. they were ordered to pay $400.000 for the destruction to public property and firefighting costs.if they pay the bill they keep the land.i think they got off lucky, someone could have been killed.

    • What I read was they actually did have permission and it was documented along with recordings of those calls were played at court.

    • I did do research, I just didn’t see where they lowered their fine.

    • Lol. Sure they shouldn’t be taken seriously. There is only a few former SP and SO in the mix.

    • “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” – Speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 14, 1778

      “That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.” – Virginia Declaration of Rights, June 12, 1776

      Richard Henry Lee, Anti-Federalist

      “A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves… and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms… The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle.” – Letters From the Federal Farmer to the Republican, Letter XVIII, January 25, 1788

      “(W)hereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them nor does it follow from this, that all promiscuously must go into actual service on every occasion. The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it, whenever they can prevail, no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it.” – Federal Farmer, Anti-Federalist Letter, No.18, The Pennsylvania Gazette, February 20, 1788

    • And the BLM actually committing Arsenal terrorism.

      https://youtu.be/D_iT7EPBeNk

    • they didn’t lower the fine. they paid off 200 of the $400,000

    • I refuse to accept “The Conservative Treehouse” as a reputable source.

  • These guys aren’t even a militia. They’re a bunch of hicks playing army at a shack in the woods that happens to be owned by the government. All to free someone who burned over a hundred acres of land to scare out game to poach. I’m all for checking government authority and defending the Constitution, but that’s not what this is.

    • It wasn’t federal land. It was family land. And what do you think a militia is?

    • Matt sounds super informed on the overall issue.

    • The fire spread to federal lands, actually.

    • Suck a dick you government bootlicker

    • I don’t even need to insult you dude. Being a Jaguars fan is a fate worse than death

    • That fire was started on their land to stop an approaching wildfire, The fire spread over an invisible line and they both spent time in jail. Now the govt wants them to go back to jail to spend the full term, They did time and now the govt is pushing harder because of the resources on their land and this Militia is there to ensure bullshit like that is stopped.

    • Yes because seizing a cabin in the woods is really going to get that done.

    • We’re talking about it now. Seems like it’s working

    • Most people, myself included, aren’t taking these guys seriously. Calling them a militia or even terrorists gives credibility that they don’t deserve.

    • So because the government said they were poaching that’s it? They wouldn’t lie, or mislead the public ever? They are forcing the family to sell their ranch which all proceeds will go to the $400,000 fine levied on them, they can’t sell anything over $500 without permission, and after a judge (who thought the whole situation was unfair to begin with) sentenced them and they did their time, they have to go back to prison without due process. And this is ok? Obviously how these men are protesting isn’t the correct way, but I hardly think killing them is the answer.

    • I never said they should be killed….

    • That’s true the article asked if Drones should be used. You did not. My bad. But still.

    • I don’t have much good to say about the US using drones in general

    • Coming from a mets fan. Kc whipped your sorry asses.

    • We weren’t even supposed to be there dude lmao. The Mets are young. They’re good ahead of schedule. Have fun repeating without Gordon, Cueto, or Zobrist ?

    • They have the fine down to 200,000. And maybe e everyone should do some real research. Before opening there mouths.

    • the hammonds started the fire during a fire ban without notifying the fire dept to try to save winter feed which spread to public land endangering firefighters in the area. they were ordered to pay $400.000 for the destruction to public property and firefighting costs.if they pay the bill they keep the land.i think they got off lucky, someone could have been killed.

    • What I read was they actually did have permission and it was documented along with recordings of those calls were played at court.

    • I did do research, I just didn’t see where they lowered their fine.

    • Lol. Sure they shouldn’t be taken seriously. There is only a few former SP and SO in the mix.

    • “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” – Speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 14, 1778

      “That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.” – Virginia Declaration of Rights, June 12, 1776

      Richard Henry Lee, Anti-Federalist

      “A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves… and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms… The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle.” – Letters From the Federal Farmer to the Republican, Letter XVIII, January 25, 1788

      “(W)hereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them nor does it follow from this, that all promiscuously must go into actual service on every occasion. The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it, whenever they can prevail, no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it.” – Federal Farmer, Anti-Federalist Letter, No.18, The Pennsylvania Gazette, February 20, 1788

    • And the BLM actually committing Arsenal terrorism.

      https://youtu.be/D_iT7EPBeNk

    • they didn’t lower the fine. they paid off 200 of the $400,000

    • I refuse to accept “The Conservative Treehouse” as a reputable source.

  • Both are wrong.

    So the fact that the people were given time and did their time. Then to come back and say you didn’t do enough is wrong.

    But what the “militia” is doing is wrong as well. They are “threatening” anyone who tries to remove them. Thats where they crossed the line. Occupying the court house is fine. Even having the “guns” is fine. But the second they started threatening anyone is when they went from protesters to possible terrorist.

  • Both are wrong.

    So the fact that the people were given time and did their time. Then to come back and say you didn’t do enough is wrong.

    But what the “militia” is doing is wrong as well. They are “threatening” anyone who tries to remove them. Thats where they crossed the line. Occupying the court house is fine. Even having the “guns” is fine. But the second they started threatening anyone is when they went from protesters to possible terrorist.

  • Yes

  • Yes

  • Justified

  • Justified

  • I am German , Cherokee , born and raised in the USA , my race isn’t a color , and you say

  • I am German , Cherokee , born and raised in the USA , my race isn’t a color , and you say

  • Unjustified without question. Drone strikes are uncalled for and as extreme as those idiots are. But authorities should go in with whatever force is necessary to put a quick end to the nonsense. The ringleaders should be taken into custody and held accountable for the expenses incurred as well as face judgement of the courts for all the laws they’ve broken.

  • Blacks will always accuse us of racism but won’t read about how their black ancestors sold there people to other negros throw the card away not valid

  • Unjustified without question. Drone strikes are uncalled for and as extreme as those idiots are. But authorities should go in with whatever force is necessary to put a quick end to the nonsense. The ringleaders should be taken into custody and held accountable for the expenses incurred as well as face judgement of the courts for all the laws they’ve broken.

  • Blacks will always accuse us of racism but won’t read about how their black ancestors sold there people to other negros throw the card away not valid

  • I believe in the citizens rights to protest against and defy unjust laws; in this case. I am still waiting to hear the unjust laws.

  • I believe in the citizens rights to protest against and defy unjust laws; in this case. I am still waiting to hear the unjust laws.

  • Cops shoot unarmed people, sprayed me with tear gas at a PEACEFUL demonstration and beat protesters all the fucking yime…mwhh do these ARMED cowards get a pass?

  • Cops shoot unarmed people, sprayed me with tear gas at a PEACEFUL demonstration and beat protesters all the fucking yime…mwhh do these ARMED cowards get a pass?

  • citizens have rights to bear arms in self defense, form militia, separate, declare independence… excetera. as a veteran marine, i swore to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. big government doesn’t like it’s slaves’ shackles loosened.

  • citizens have rights to bear arms in self defense, form militia, separate, declare independence… excetera. as a veteran marine, i swore to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. big government doesn’t like it’s slaves’ shackles loosened.

  • I think that they should invite other cultures to join them in their protest, prove to the people that it’s not about racism

  • I think that they should invite other cultures to join them in their protest, prove to the people that it’s not about racism

  • I’m making a movie , white people can’t vote , we are looking for extras.

  • I’m making a movie , white people can’t vote , we are looking for extras.

  • Dave McKee thank you stfu already

  • Dave McKee thank you stfu already

  • We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

    • Zero tolerance for infringement is the definition I think.

  • We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

    • Zero tolerance for infringement is the definition I think.

  • They have become everything they hated and fought against… Nice. Racist

  • They have become everything they hated and fought against… Nice. Racist

  • She is a dumb ignorant person

  • She is a dumb ignorant person

  • Can’t even say anything because you have no intellect, just post racist memes.

  • Can’t even say anything because you have no intellect, just post racist memes.

  • At least speak your mind instead of posting racist memes. You small minded racist. You probably know you’ll get owned so you just post memes.

  • At least speak your mind instead of posting racist memes. You small minded racist. You probably know you’ll get owned so you just post memes.


  • So be cool, Mr. President. Be Fonzie cool. Cut off their power and wait them out through the winter. Let Fox TV and the Wall Street Journal spend the money to put crews and reporters there all the time to freeze for nothing.

    These pathetic Bundy Branch Davidians and David Koreshs are bought and paid for by the spin weenies at the Koch Koch Klan™!

    One more thing: About the $$$$$$$!

    < http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/25/the-money-behind-foxs-promotion-of-cliven-bundy/199034>.

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    http://martinshushu.blogspot.com/2013/10/>

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    http://martinshushu.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-spin-weenies-damage-disparage.html>


  • So be cool, Mr. President. Be Fonzie cool. Cut off their power and wait them out through the winter. Let Fox TV and the Wall Street Journal spend the money to put crews and reporters there all the time to freeze for nothing.

    These pathetic Bundy Branch Davidians and David Koreshs are bought and paid for by the spin weenies at the Koch Koch Klan™!

    One more thing: About the $$$$$$$!

    < http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/25/the-money-behind-foxs-promotion-of-cliven-bundy/199034>.

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    http://martinshushu.blogspot.com/2013/10/>

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    http://martinshushu.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-spin-weenies-damage-disparage.html>

  • The government needs to be held accountable and double jeopardy is against the law. The people are justified and the government is breaking the law.

  • The government needs to be held accountable and double jeopardy is against the law. The people are justified and the government is breaking the law.

  • I think since the end of Top Gear they’ll of had more time to spend together but now the new series is starting filming for Amozon maybe they’ll have to get used to not having Richard round the house so much!! X

  • I think since the end of Top Gear they’ll of had more time to spend together but now the new series is starting filming for Amozon maybe they’ll have to get used to not having Richard round the house so much!! X

  • why don’t we call them terrorists?

  • why don’t we call them terrorists?

  • YES THEY ARE WRIGHT,AND THEY AS ALL THE US PEOPLE SHOULD BE WAITING FOR ANYTHING ,STAND UP TO UR GOVERNMENT

  • YES THEY ARE WRIGHT,AND THEY AS ALL THE US PEOPLE SHOULD BE WAITING FOR ANYTHING ,STAND UP TO UR GOVERNMENT

  • That’s all she can say Cus she a fool

  • That’s all she can say Cus she a fool

  • This gives a full history from the 1870’s to present of the Hammond ranch. It is VERY telling of how the FSW and BLM steal land from ranchers. They stole it from the Indians and then again from the ranchers it was sold to. http://willcountynews.com/…/federal-government-doing…/

    Texas land grab recently
    http://www.truthrevolt.org/…/tx-rancher-fighting-feds…

    gov.texas.gov/news/press-release/21553

    http://www.landrights.org/

    The purpose of the land grabs are to control natural resources, of which they lease to corporations for fracking, natural gas, minerals, etc..

    “Interior Department Releases Final Rule to Support Safe, Responsible Hydraulic Fracturing Activities on Public and TRIBAL Lands”
    http://www.blm.gov/…/news…/2015/march/nr_03_20_2015.html

  • This gives a full history from the 1870’s to present of the Hammond ranch. It is VERY telling of how the FSW and BLM steal land from ranchers. They stole it from the Indians and then again from the ranchers it was sold to. http://willcountynews.com/…/federal-government-doing…/

    Texas land grab recently
    http://www.truthrevolt.org/…/tx-rancher-fighting-feds…

    gov.texas.gov/news/press-release/21553

    http://www.landrights.org/

    The purpose of the land grabs are to control natural resources, of which they lease to corporations for fracking, natural gas, minerals, etc..

    “Interior Department Releases Final Rule to Support Safe, Responsible Hydraulic Fracturing Activities on Public and TRIBAL Lands”
    http://www.blm.gov/…/news…/2015/march/nr_03_20_2015.html

  • Robin Ella Young go get a education or ebonics edamacation

  • Robin Ella Young go get a education or ebonics edamacation

  • Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground.

    ~Frederick Douglas

  • Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground.

    ~Frederick Douglas

  • Domestic drone strike = revolution. They would not like that can of worms should they choose to open it.

  • Domestic drone strike = revolution. They would not like that can of worms should they choose to open it.

  • Justified even if misunderstood. So glad to see so many actually getting the history. Still a staggering number of morons not bothering but an ugly pleasantry to see readers of this page realizing the double jeopardy and government thuggery going on in this case. I hate the label “liberal” but other than complete idiots what else can you call them? If they are not all government “shills” which are infecting every anti-government post then these people will not be satisfied until they are literally in chains.

  • Justified even if misunderstood. So glad to see so many actually getting the history. Still a staggering number of morons not bothering but an ugly pleasantry to see readers of this page realizing the double jeopardy and government thuggery going on in this case. I hate the label “liberal” but other than complete idiots what else can you call them? If they are not all government “shills” which are infecting every anti-government post then these people will not be satisfied until they are literally in chains.

  • Totally unjustified. They should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The national conversation would be much different if they were Black Panthers, Dreamers, Black Lives matter, Muslims for peace or any other non white activist group.Now is the time to stand as a nation and end the double standard that white conservatives regularly take advantage of.

    • Please see 18 U.S. code 2384.

      If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
      (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

    • So you want them to be treated like the black panthers? We’re you okay with how the back Panthers were treated? I wasn’t

    • no I am not okay with how the black panthers were treated. I would much rather see non violent non white activists treated with the same restraint and respect that whites enjoy. I was trying to point out the inequality inherent in our media and society. I am sorry if the way I expressed that was not clear.

  • Totally unjustified. They should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The national conversation would be much different if they were Black Panthers, Dreamers, Black Lives matter, Muslims for peace or any other non white activist group.Now is the time to stand as a nation and end the double standard that white conservatives regularly take advantage of.

    • Please see 18 U.S. code 2384.

      If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
      (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

    • So you want them to be treated like the black panthers? We’re you okay with how the back Panthers were treated? I wasn’t

    • no I am not okay with how the black panthers were treated. I would much rather see non violent non white activists treated with the same restraint and respect that whites enjoy. I was trying to point out the inequality inherent in our media and society. I am sorry if the way I expressed that was not clear.

  • And that’s exactly what you’re doing. Racist pig.

  • And that’s exactly what you’re doing. Racist pig.

  • I think its about time somebody stood up to our tyrannical government for testing us like slaves

  • I think its about time somebody stood up to our tyrannical government for testing us like slaves

  • i think these militants are wrong but i don’t call for violence. seems to me they are out of state wealthy landowners and paramilitary thugs trying to destroy a park in the name of business. i feel sorry for the locals that lost the use of their recreational land due to this protest. but for now leave them be. they’ll get cold and go home.

  • i think these militants are wrong but i don’t call for violence. seems to me they are out of state wealthy landowners and paramilitary thugs trying to destroy a park in the name of business. i feel sorry for the locals that lost the use of their recreational land due to this protest. but for now leave them be. they’ll get cold and go home.

  • Constitution is American , it’s hard to understand freedom and the idea of freedom When a country is ruled by a dictator And that is where you are born and raised .

  • Constitution is American , it’s hard to understand freedom and the idea of freedom When a country is ruled by a dictator And that is where you are born and raised .

  • They should all be shot for treason. They are lucky the are white.

    • To bad they didn’t riot and protest in your town and burn it down

    • Still wouldn’t be arrested

  • They should all be shot for treason. They are lucky the are white.

    • To bad they didn’t riot and protest in your town and burn it down

    • Still wouldn’t be arrested

  • Matt VanKirk you sir are an idiot, just sayin. Do you know any of the facts. One acre was burned, to cover up poaching us their claim, but that’s a trumped up charge anyway. The building is owned by the people, although the land its on is owned by the Hammonds who allocated it for the wildlife department. Check the facts before you start to spew shit out of your mouth. Go eat dog shit

    • One less deer that will run into my car.

  • Matt VanKirk you sir are an idiot, just sayin. Do you know any of the facts. One acre was burned, to cover up poaching us their claim, but that’s a trumped up charge anyway. The building is owned by the people, although the land its on is owned by the Hammonds who allocated it for the wildlife department. Check the facts before you start to spew shit out of your mouth. Go eat dog shit

    • One less deer that will run into my car.

  • why is there any question, if huge groups of people can protest police and loot and pillage why can’t minute men protest judical over reach in peaceful ways??? and what is next, well the line is in the sand and if the government doesn’t stand down, well this could be just where the shit hit the fan…

  • why is there any question, if huge groups of people can protest police and loot and pillage why can’t minute men protest judical over reach in peaceful ways??? and what is next, well the line is in the sand and if the government doesn’t stand down, well this could be just where the shit hit the fan…

  • I don’t think that there will be any drone strikes. I don’t think that there are nearly enough women and children in the building for Obama to launch a drone strike. Now, maybe if they were in a hospital with some really old, sick people. Maybe then.

  • I don’t think that there will be any drone strikes. I don’t think that there are nearly enough women and children in the building for Obama to launch a drone strike. Now, maybe if they were in a hospital with some really old, sick people. Maybe then.

  • Arrest them all.

  • Arrest them all.

  • Shoot them

  • Shoot them

  • Militias are legit, the government is not.

  • Militias are legit, the government is not.

  • Big Brother is putting these folks in double jeopardy to try to gain ownership of their land that has been owned by the family since before BLM was even a thought. Why? Because their land is full of natural resources… why else would the government stipulate that they have the first shot at buying the ranch if it has to be sold?

    There is a long backstory of the BLM harassing ranchers in the area. Do research before commenting that these people are terrorists.

    They are standing for the American people. There has been no violence, no burning of businesses, no looting.

    Remember that the men that signed the Declaration of Independence were considered to be traitors and terrorists.

    #OregonFront

  • Big Brother is putting these folks in double jeopardy to try to gain ownership of their land that has been owned by the family since before BLM was even a thought. Why? Because their land is full of natural resources… why else would the government stipulate that they have the first shot at buying the ranch if it has to be sold?

    There is a long backstory of the BLM harassing ranchers in the area. Do research before commenting that these people are terrorists.

    They are standing for the American people. There has been no violence, no burning of businesses, no looting.

    Remember that the men that signed the Declaration of Independence were considered to be traitors and terrorists.

    #OregonFront

  • I think they’re as justified as all the others. But, why don’t the police show up w/ tanks, pepper spray and guns for THEM?

  • I think they’re as justified as all the others. But, why don’t the police show up w/ tanks, pepper spray and guns for THEM?

  • A portion from the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are CREATED EQUAL, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED, –That whenever ANY Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the RIGHT of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

  • A portion from the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are CREATED EQUAL, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED, –That whenever ANY Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the RIGHT of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

  • There’s always like 40 sides to some shit, oh they went to jail for preparing their land, oh now theyre terrorists, they’re not terrorists they Americans like me and you we should help and fight, but wait there’s more to that than you think. Just goes on and on

  • There’s always like 40 sides to some shit, oh they went to jail for preparing their land, oh now theyre terrorists, they’re not terrorists they Americans like me and you we should help and fight, but wait there’s more to that than you think. Just goes on and on

  • I support them. We are a nation in desperate need to stand up to this evil….

  • I support them. We are a nation in desperate need to stand up to this evil….

  • Don’t forget Waco Texas. The government will kill American women and children. .prime example is the drone strikes in Iraq and Afghanistan. .and anywhere else the greedy want oil and power.

  • Don’t forget Waco Texas. The government will kill American women and children. .prime example is the drone strikes in Iraq and Afghanistan. .and anywhere else the greedy want oil and power.

  • I hope they end the land grabs and shut down the BLM.

  • I hope they end the land grabs and shut down the BLM.

  • Domestic terrorist. It’s also funny and embarrassing. What a bunch of dorks. If the government went in and shot them up I doubt anyone would care.

  • Domestic terrorist. It’s also funny and embarrassing. What a bunch of dorks. If the government went in and shot them up I doubt anyone would care.

  • Justified?!?!

    Maybe if it was the family or members of the surrounding community taking the refuge, but the fact that it is being lead by a radicalized Mormon nut job who is under some misguided vision or conversation he had with his God, or the fact that he doesn’t even live in the state…

    No not justified!
    Not In any way shape or forum!

    I feel bad that the Hammond family got caught doing something a lot of ranchers do on their leased property from the BLM, the Hammond family have paid their price!

    As for these misguided ass hats, go home or face what will probably be your death, but I’m afraid it will all be in vain, you won’t be the martyrs your GOD had hoped!

  • Justified?!?!

    Maybe if it was the family or members of the surrounding community taking the refuge, but the fact that it is being lead by a radicalized Mormon nut job who is under some misguided vision or conversation he had with his God, or the fact that he doesn’t even live in the state…

    No not justified!
    Not In any way shape or forum!

    I feel bad that the Hammond family got caught doing something a lot of ranchers do on their leased property from the BLM, the Hammond family have paid their price!

    As for these misguided ass hats, go home or face what will probably be your death, but I’m afraid it will all be in vain, you won’t be the martyrs your GOD had hoped!

  • Hell knell you need more people with nuts out here

  • Hell knell you need more people with nuts out here

  • until we get both side to this story that question can not be answered honestly or truthfully

  • until we get both side to this story that question can not be answered honestly or truthfully

  • This country is becoming more and more divided every day. I hope someday we can all just get along instead of calling each other names on facebook posts…..

  • This country is becoming more and more divided every day. I hope someday we can all just get along instead of calling each other names on facebook posts…..

  • I stand with them.

  • I stand with them.

  • i have not heard of any specific plans by the BLM to open up this wildlife preserve to commercial business. in 1990 Oka Qebec Canada the government tried to sell off native land for a golf coarse and residential development the natives stood up to the government to keep it wild. the opposite of what these protesters are doing

  • i have not heard of any specific plans by the BLM to open up this wildlife preserve to commercial business. in 1990 Oka Qebec Canada the government tried to sell off native land for a golf coarse and residential development the natives stood up to the government to keep it wild. the opposite of what these protesters are doing

  • Love it
    Real Americans

  • Love it
    Real Americans

  • While I do agree that the Hammonds should not be sentenced to further time in prison I also am AGAINST the way the supposed militia is mishandling the situation. I do not think the Bundy crowd is there to help the Hammonds, instead they are there to further their own agendas and garner attention for themselves. As for what to do, that is a tough one. If the gov were to step in there would be shooting and the “militia” would scream foul and it would of course be blamed on Pres Obama. While to let them continue sets a seriously bad president that white groups can do what ever they want with immunity. All the while the “militia” put themselves in the position of danger so what ever happens is their own fault. This isnt a group of innocent ppl at a hospital or a party or living on a commune. They have taken over a gov instillation and refuse to leave. I know what I would do if someone took over my house and refused to leave.

    • I would rather they took over my house then walked through my town wrecking shit. Aka Ferguson

  • While I do agree that the Hammonds should not be sentenced to further time in prison I also am AGAINST the way the supposed militia is mishandling the situation. I do not think the Bundy crowd is there to help the Hammonds, instead they are there to further their own agendas and garner attention for themselves. As for what to do, that is a tough one. If the gov were to step in there would be shooting and the “militia” would scream foul and it would of course be blamed on Pres Obama. While to let them continue sets a seriously bad president that white groups can do what ever they want with immunity. All the while the “militia” put themselves in the position of danger so what ever happens is their own fault. This isnt a group of innocent ppl at a hospital or a party or living on a commune. They have taken over a gov instillation and refuse to leave. I know what I would do if someone took over my house and refused to leave.

    • I would rather they took over my house then walked through my town wrecking shit. Aka Ferguson

  • The idea that the government has no authority to manage land is interesting. How exactly are federal lands acquired and maintained if this is the case? Well, it’s not. Attached is the section under which the federal government is granted authority to manage land. Furthermore, both the Hammonds and the Bundys consented to these terms when entering into contract with the federal government for grazing rights. That’s all they had, a contract to use public land for grazing. I agree that violence is uncalled for, but the facts are these people entered into a contract, were unhappy with the contract, and now that the case has gone through the courts are unhappy with the results.

    http://www.heritage.org/constitution/articles/4/essays/126/property-clause

  • The idea that the government has no authority to manage land is interesting. How exactly are federal lands acquired and maintained if this is the case? Well, it’s not. Attached is the section under which the federal government is granted authority to manage land. Furthermore, both the Hammonds and the Bundys consented to these terms when entering into contract with the federal government for grazing rights. That’s all they had, a contract to use public land for grazing. I agree that violence is uncalled for, but the facts are these people entered into a contract, were unhappy with the contract, and now that the case has gone through the courts are unhappy with the results.

    http://www.heritage.org/constitution/articles/4/essays/126/property-clause

  • If they were “black” or Muslim protesters… or anything other than “Christian” white guys, what do you suppose would be going on there?

    • You’re right… But doesn’t mean that hurting anyone standing up to government is justified… You’re using the example of government killing its citizens to justify what exactly?

      How people were treated in different situations was wrong, correct? So why would you want this to be the same thing?

    • Whoah… Where did you just go? I simply asked a question.

    • They would go the same route. They can’t “drone them” or call on the army because it would stir up too much bullshit, and if the people in the compound were well trained and armed enough, they could just pick off intruders as they try to setup positions to attack them from. The only thing that would work is siege tactics, and that almost always ends with blood drawn on both sides. It doesn’t fucking matter what race or religion these people are, the cops just don’t want to get fucked up. These aren’t gang banging hoods, sloppily trained terrorists, or unarmed religious fanatics. They have well maintained weapons, well manned positions, and probably have traps setup three ways to Sunday out there by now. The cops are scared for a reason, and it’s because at least some of these people know their shit, and all it takes is them telling the others how to do a single job. That makes a place like that easy to defend.
      So to answer you, if every variable from numbers to tactics used by the defenders was the same, from options you gave, the same exact thing.

  • If they were “black” or Muslim protesters… or anything other than “Christian” white guys, what do you suppose would be going on there?

    • You’re right… But doesn’t mean that hurting anyone standing up to government is justified… You’re using the example of government killing its citizens to justify what exactly?

      How people were treated in different situations was wrong, correct? So why would you want this to be the same thing?

    • Whoah… Where did you just go? I simply asked a question.

    • They would go the same route. They can’t “drone them” or call on the army because it would stir up too much bullshit, and if the people in the compound were well trained and armed enough, they could just pick off intruders as they try to setup positions to attack them from. The only thing that would work is siege tactics, and that almost always ends with blood drawn on both sides. It doesn’t fucking matter what race or religion these people are, the cops just don’t want to get fucked up. These aren’t gang banging hoods, sloppily trained terrorists, or unarmed religious fanatics. They have well maintained weapons, well manned positions, and probably have traps setup three ways to Sunday out there by now. The cops are scared for a reason, and it’s because at least some of these people know their shit, and all it takes is them telling the others how to do a single job. That makes a place like that easy to defend.
      So to answer you, if every variable from numbers to tactics used by the defenders was the same, from options you gave, the same exact thing.

  • They should be given an opportunity to put down their guns and surrender and if they refused they should be shot 87 times each same as if they were black. #YallQaeda
    #Yeehawd
    #Ammosexuals
    #Gundamentalists
    #vanillaISIS
    #YokelHaram
    #CowTippingTerrorists
    #WhiteISIS
    #WelfareRanchers
    #FreeLoaderRednecks
    #WannabeCattleBarons

  • They should be given an opportunity to put down their guns and surrender and if they refused they should be shot 87 times each same as if they were black. #YallQaeda
    #Yeehawd
    #Ammosexuals
    #Gundamentalists
    #vanillaISIS
    #YokelHaram
    #CowTippingTerrorists
    #WhiteISIS
    #WelfareRanchers
    #FreeLoaderRednecks
    #WannabeCattleBarons

  • It is justified, and the BLM should be dissolved.

  • It is justified, and the BLM should be dissolved.

  • Justified

  • Justified

  • Hell yes I think there right.. these men have all ready served their time in prison and now the government wants to throw them back in for the same crime they’re just nickel and diming these people so they can take their land

  • Hell yes I think there right.. these men have all ready served their time in prison and now the government wants to throw them back in for the same crime they’re just nickel and diming these people so they can take their land

  • Or is it a trap to lure Patriotic Americans who are committed to fighting for their Freedom all over again?

  • Or is it a trap to lure Patriotic Americans who are committed to fighting for their Freedom all over again?

  • Well since the government plans to give that land to China in order to pay off debts, I say fuck the Fed’s, and fuck law too. Fuck The System.
    http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/05/plan-use-land-west-pay-debt-china/

  • Well since the government plans to give that land to China in order to pay off debts, I say fuck the Fed’s, and fuck law too. Fuck The System.
    http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/05/plan-use-land-west-pay-debt-china/

  • 18 U.S. Code § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy
    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

    • THANK YOU!

    • So whats the point of the Constitution allowing US Citizens to carry guns and standing up to Govt if ever needed?

    • Tony Amstar Sheldon, read Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.

  • 18 U.S. Code § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy
    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

    • THANK YOU!

    • So whats the point of the Constitution allowing US Citizens to carry guns and standing up to Govt if ever needed?

    • Tony Amstar Sheldon, read Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.

  • Seems staged & or orchestrated to coincide with the current agenda toward a martial law & UN global police state .

  • Seems staged & or orchestrated to coincide with the current agenda toward a martial law & UN global police state .

  • Yes

  • Yes

  • If these men were any other ethnicity, they would be blown up by now, justified or not

  • If these men were any other ethnicity, they would be blown up by now, justified or not

  • YES! It’s time to arrest all crook govt officials!

  • YES! It’s time to arrest all crook govt officials!

  • Fuck the law and the government

  • Fuck the law and the government

  • oh yea, they’re justified because they’re just a nice church going group that only wants some love and affection. Just ask your local news channel

  • oh yea, they’re justified because they’re just a nice church going group that only wants some love and affection. Just ask your local news channel

  • they are right to protest the corrupt government, sign of USA times that the only way to do so is with guns, a reasonable government would have a system to hear the people without such extreme measures. There is probrably a better way.

  • they are right to protest the corrupt government, sign of USA times that the only way to do so is with guns, a reasonable government would have a system to hear the people without such extreme measures. There is probrably a better way.

  • look by 2020 there will be well over 20 billion people there will be no feasible way to sustain with privately owned land period…either we cull humans for population control or forfeit our control of resources. there is no way for both sides to win

  • look by 2020 there will be well over 20 billion people there will be no feasible way to sustain with privately owned land period…either we cull humans for population control or forfeit our control of resources. there is no way for both sides to win

  • I think it is about time to petition for a law that will allow for the imprisonment of any government employee or holders of any office In the American government cought lying or misleading the public in any way shape or form. I believe this will also draw out those who aim at misleading and lying to the people they represent. This can also be expand to include unions, lobbyists and special interests. What do you think?

  • I think it is about time to petition for a law that will allow for the imprisonment of any government employee or holders of any office In the American government cought lying or misleading the public in any way shape or form. I believe this will also draw out those who aim at misleading and lying to the people they represent. This can also be expand to include unions, lobbyists and special interests. What do you think?

  • They are breaking the law. Just bomb them like the US does to every other armed group in the world

  • They are breaking the law. Just bomb them like the US does to every other armed group in the world

  • You lost me when you asked if it was against the law, justified or not, the law makes no difference and shouldn’t be used as a form of evaluation or judgement

  • You lost me when you asked if it was against the law, justified or not, the law makes no difference and shouldn’t be used as a form of evaluation or judgement

  • the government should appease if that is what it takes and negotiate with them before it escalates

  • the government should appease if that is what it takes and negotiate with them before it escalates

  • ok so these people seem to be having a hard time realising it is not 1885 any more…it is like they are extras on cold mountain or something i get the it is my land i will burn it if i want to thing , but it is not. it is public land, and when they set fire to it there were campers that they were aware of and did it any way and there was a no fire ban to keep the fire fighters safe… shoot even one of their kin had to hide in a crick to avoid being burnt to death. the ‘child abuse’ i get most of it. i am from Montana i get teaching a lesson with a whole can of skoal or making you walk home alone( even if it is 10 miles, boys can be tough and they aren’t in the city they live at a ranch for crissake) …but the sandpapering off defacement of a young boys skin that is a bit much

  • ok so these people seem to be having a hard time realising it is not 1885 any more…it is like they are extras on cold mountain or something i get the it is my land i will burn it if i want to thing , but it is not. it is public land, and when they set fire to it there were campers that they were aware of and did it any way and there was a no fire ban to keep the fire fighters safe… shoot even one of their kin had to hide in a crick to avoid being burnt to death. the ‘child abuse’ i get most of it. i am from Montana i get teaching a lesson with a whole can of skoal or making you walk home alone( even if it is 10 miles, boys can be tough and they aren’t in the city they live at a ranch for crissake) …but the sandpapering off defacement of a young boys skin that is a bit much

  • By the fbi’s definition they are terrorists.

  • By the fbi’s definition they are terrorists.

  • Obama should resign

  • Obama should resign

  • I believe there is more to this story, there is a reason for this that we have not figured out yet. Maybe to throw more salt in the wound of racism, lets see how it plays out. Because it is not adding up.

  • I believe there is more to this story, there is a reason for this that we have not figured out yet. Maybe to throw more salt in the wound of racism, lets see how it plays out. Because it is not adding up.

  • Whether they’ve been wronged or not, they are breaking the law.

  • Whether they’ve been wronged or not, they are breaking the law.

  • They’re, by definition, terrorists. There is no difference between what they’re doing and what muslim extremists do in order to use fear and intimidation to progress their political agenda.

  • They’re, by definition, terrorists. There is no difference between what they’re doing and what muslim extremists do in order to use fear and intimidation to progress their political agenda.

  • They are doing what needs to be done, people who oppose are sheeple.

  • They are doing what needs to be done, people who oppose are sheeple.

  • The federal government is the largest criminal/terrorist organization ever to be allowed to exist in the United States!

  • The federal government is the largest criminal/terrorist organization ever to be allowed to exist in the United States!

  • This group of people has proved that our Government and our leaders are weak. This is a grave mistake. Now that these people realize that they have exposed a weakness in our system they will surely exploit it. You can count on these people and their movement becoming bolder and taking on bigger illegal seizures and engaging in bolder acts of insurrection now that they know they won’t be challenged by the authorities. I predict that they will go for seizing a post office or a federal building of some type next. If that goes unchallenged they may go for the take over of something really powerful like a military base for example. Keep in mind these people want to overthrow our lawful constitutional government and replace it with a theocratic oligarchy run by the 1%.

  • This group of people has proved that our Government and our leaders are weak. This is a grave mistake. Now that these people realize that they have exposed a weakness in our system they will surely exploit it. You can count on these people and their movement becoming bolder and taking on bigger illegal seizures and engaging in bolder acts of insurrection now that they know they won’t be challenged by the authorities. I predict that they will go for seizing a post office or a federal building of some type next. If that goes unchallenged they may go for the take over of something really powerful like a military base for example. Keep in mind these people want to overthrow our lawful constitutional government and replace it with a theocratic oligarchy run by the 1%.

  • Treason Charges.

  • Treason Charges.

  • An armed takeover of a federal building with threats of violence is terrorism. That being said, there are no hostages and no need to escalate the situation. The feds should move in and monitor the situation and attempt to negotiate with the rational members of this group perhaps offering lighter charges if they surrender peacefully. Then use siege tactics, turn off the water, turn on the bright lights and loud music and wait for them to surrender. No need for another Ruby Ridge or Waco but they should be charged appropriately when arrested.

    • Read the constitution. Better yet, pay attention in American history class next time. Just because it hasn’t happend in mote then a hundred years, doesn’t make it terrorism. The founding fathers would be right by their side on this one.

    • The reason we have the 2nd amendment is to resist Tyranny like this

    • Better yet Don’t pay attention in government history class and do your own research and oh yeah read the Constitution

    • Allowing any group to use force and threats of violence to get their way is not acceptable.

    • Very true Anne Marshall. The govt should stop with the threats.

    • Which is why I believe they are responding to the violence of government. I believe most of us agree with you.

    • So if black lives matter protesters take over a federal building in response to police violence then this militia will defend them?

    • Your founding fathers used violence to create your country. And better question. Why isn’t Ferguson having a “protest” to show thier support for the white ranchers?

    • Honestly, blm and these guys have more in common than most will admit.

    • Exactly Anne Marshall. Finally, a sensible comment.

    • O.o smh

    • George Washington would have slaughtered these terrorist fools!

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

  • An armed takeover of a federal building with threats of violence is terrorism. That being said, there are no hostages and no need to escalate the situation. The feds should move in and monitor the situation and attempt to negotiate with the rational members of this group perhaps offering lighter charges if they surrender peacefully. Then use siege tactics, turn off the water, turn on the bright lights and loud music and wait for them to surrender. No need for another Ruby Ridge or Waco but they should be charged appropriately when arrested.

    • Read the constitution. Better yet, pay attention in American history class next time. Just because it hasn’t happend in mote then a hundred years, doesn’t make it terrorism. The founding fathers would be right by their side on this one.

    • The reason we have the 2nd amendment is to resist Tyranny like this

    • Better yet Don’t pay attention in government history class and do your own research and oh yeah read the Constitution

    • Allowing any group to use force and threats of violence to get their way is not acceptable.

    • Very true Anne Marshall. The govt should stop with the threats.

    • Which is why I believe they are responding to the violence of government. I believe most of us agree with you.

    • So if black lives matter protesters take over a federal building in response to police violence then this militia will defend them?

    • Your founding fathers used violence to create your country. And better question. Why isn’t Ferguson having a “protest” to show thier support for the white ranchers?

    • Honestly, blm and these guys have more in common than most will admit.

    • Exactly Anne Marshall. Finally, a sensible comment.

    • O.o smh

    • George Washington would have slaughtered these terrorist fools!

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

  • NOPE , yes and secure the perimeter , allow walking supporters in , wait

  • NOPE , yes and secure the perimeter , allow walking supporters in , wait

  • They should be tried as the criminals they are.

    In Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, it states:
    “To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;”

    18 U.S. Code § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy
    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

    • Actually, they may have grounds to have the federal government tried for RICO, or initiate their own RICO civil suit against the government.

    • Well, they just blew any legal recourse.

    • Wile I agree that their taking over the building there is not correct and illegal, they didn’t blow any legal recourse. They need to change direction. The civil RICO suit is probably the best option at the moment in addition to leaving the premises

  • They should be tried as the criminals they are.

    In Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, it states:
    “To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;”

    18 U.S. Code § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy
    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

    • Actually, they may have grounds to have the federal government tried for RICO, or initiate their own RICO civil suit against the government.

    • Well, they just blew any legal recourse.

    • Wile I agree that their taking over the building there is not correct and illegal, they didn’t blow any legal recourse. They need to change direction. The civil RICO suit is probably the best option at the moment in addition to leaving the premises

  • No!

  • No!

  • U dont like this countrys laws? Then leave lol… stupid people actually say that shit to me when i point out how fucked up this country is

  • U dont like this countrys laws? Then leave lol… stupid people actually say that shit to me when i point out how fucked up this country is

  • Shoot them as they would do to others, very simple.

  • Shoot them as they would do to others, very simple.

  • Its time to stand up and fight for whats right

  • Its time to stand up and fight for whats right

  • it’s the government which is acting unlawful! Can’t convict someone for the same crime twice…

  • it’s the government which is acting unlawful! Can’t convict someone for the same crime twice…

  • Of course they are justified is standing up to this blatant bullying by the bureau. The question we should be asking is—”Who is the bureaucrat that has forgotten that they work FOR THE PEOPLE.”

  • Of course they are justified is standing up to this blatant bullying by the bureau. The question we should be asking is—”Who is the bureaucrat that has forgotten that they work FOR THE PEOPLE.”

  • These people are thugs. Malheur is an important bird refuge. If the birds to the whole earth goes. Who the hell do they think they are?

  • These people are thugs. Malheur is an important bird refuge. If the birds to the whole earth goes. Who the hell do they think they are?

  • The current standoff shouldn’t be called the “Hammond” situation. The Hammonds don’t support it.

  • The current standoff shouldn’t be called the “Hammond” situation. The Hammonds don’t support it.

  • I think if the molitia is going to protect people i mean all people regardless of skin color or wealth from these crazzy killer cops then i have no problem and if the goverment stepped in and inforced the same laws we follow on police we wouldnt need people on the street with guns protecting us against the people sworn to protect us

  • I think if the molitia is going to protect people i mean all people regardless of skin color or wealth from these crazzy killer cops then i have no problem and if the goverment stepped in and inforced the same laws we follow on police we wouldnt need people on the street with guns protecting us against the people sworn to protect us

  • Don’t know enough about the situation.

  • Don’t know enough about the situation.

  • They should have never turned their self in ,or have to go to jail the Feds are the ones out of control causing all the problems. Washington has gotten to big and out of control, a war is coming if you want to stay free men you had better choose wisely

  • They should have never turned their self in ,or have to go to jail the Feds are the ones out of control causing all the problems. Washington has gotten to big and out of control, a war is coming if you want to stay free men you had better choose wisely

  • the government that used to be “of the people, for the people and by the people has long ago turned on the people. Our God given rights have been repeatedly being violated on many fronts and this is just one of those fronts. It is past time for America to stand up like our founding fathers once did. Our constitution was not written to grant rights.n It was written to protect our God given rights. How much land did the British seize illegally, or how many people were wrongfully imprisoned or executed before our forefathers took a stand. How much will it take before more Americans stand up to the over reach of authority and power of the government. Constitutionally our government is limited to what power WE THE PEOPLE GRANT them, not the other way around. In closing, I fully support these people and will keep them in my prayers.

  • the government that used to be “of the people, for the people and by the people has long ago turned on the people. Our God given rights have been repeatedly being violated on many fronts and this is just one of those fronts. It is past time for America to stand up like our founding fathers once did. Our constitution was not written to grant rights.n It was written to protect our God given rights. How much land did the British seize illegally, or how many people were wrongfully imprisoned or executed before our forefathers took a stand. How much will it take before more Americans stand up to the over reach of authority and power of the government. Constitutionally our government is limited to what power WE THE PEOPLE GRANT them, not the other way around. In closing, I fully support these people and will keep them in my prayers.

  • Regardless. What’s not being asked. Is the fed justified. I dare you to seek the truth. Find what agenda is in this. If we don’t tell the fed to stop. Well. Think hard about it. Obama will nationalize the police. Then take your weapons so we don’t create anymore militias. And we will be just like Germany. Hitler used to give great speeches to Germans. Well known for it. Then he disarmed his people. Think you get we’re I’m going with this

  • Regardless. What’s not being asked. Is the fed justified. I dare you to seek the truth. Find what agenda is in this. If we don’t tell the fed to stop. Well. Think hard about it. Obama will nationalize the police. Then take your weapons so we don’t create anymore militias. And we will be just like Germany. Hitler used to give great speeches to Germans. Well known for it. Then he disarmed his people. Think you get we’re I’m going with this

  • Totally justified!

  • Totally justified!

  • I’m all for organized resistance, but this is butthurt crybabies trying to get attention and sympathy. Change their skin color and the feds would have massacred them by now. If we are going to fight back, fight for something that matters, and do it in a way that isn’t just testing the limits of your privilege.

  • I’m all for organized resistance, but this is butthurt crybabies trying to get attention and sympathy. Change their skin color and the feds would have massacred them by now. If we are going to fight back, fight for something that matters, and do it in a way that isn’t just testing the limits of your privilege.

  • Bravo to the militia for exercising their rights to stand against tyranny.

  • Bravo to the militia for exercising their rights to stand against tyranny.

  • Justified, heroic, American exceptionalism.

  • Justified, heroic, American exceptionalism.

  • Terrorists should be tried for treason ans sedition and then sent to prison for life or executed. If they were not white or “Christian”, they would already be dead.

  • Terrorists should be tried for treason ans sedition and then sent to prison for life or executed. If they were not white or “Christian”, they would already be dead.

  • I do enjoy beef once in a while but I don’t think the entire country needs to be a cow ranch

  • I do enjoy beef once in a while but I don’t think the entire country needs to be a cow ranch

  • It is their constitutional right to do what they’re doing. I think they’re waking up a lot of sheeple who are perfectly fine with shedding their rights just because they’re afraid and think that what is being taken away, little by little, is simply routine now. They have been peaceful so far, and from what Ive seen, violence is only going to come from the powers that be, who are afraid of the people taking them back.

  • It is their constitutional right to do what they’re doing. I think they’re waking up a lot of sheeple who are perfectly fine with shedding their rights just because they’re afraid and think that what is being taken away, little by little, is simply routine now. They have been peaceful so far, and from what Ive seen, violence is only going to come from the powers that be, who are afraid of the people taking them back.

  • Does it matter? This just gives americans another excuse to bicker, further the divide amongst us

  • White men doing white man shit. Stealing land is pretty much what they do.

  • Does it matter? This just gives americans another excuse to bicker, further the divide amongst us

  • White men doing white man shit. Stealing land is pretty much what they do.

  • I believe the government is a corporate controlled entity. Controlled by those who want it all, and give no ef’s about people, just control and demise. Remember, Monsanto controls the government, and they have been trying to steal land from a lot of hard working farmers who were already not making money, and basically surviving low income, and have done so for hundreds of years.

  • I believe the government is a corporate controlled entity. Controlled by those who want it all, and give no ef’s about people, just control and demise. Remember, Monsanto controls the government, and they have been trying to steal land from a lot of hard working farmers who were already not making money, and basically surviving low income, and have done so for hundreds of years.

  • The government breaks the law of the constitution all the time.

  • The government breaks the law of the constitution all the time.

  • Yes, from what I know they served time, and then another judge decides they need to come back and serve more time. I think that is just wrong. It sounds personal from that 2nd judge. and that old man is in his 70’s…… WRONG FEDs

  • Yes, from what I know they served time, and then another judge decides they need to come back and serve more time. I think that is just wrong. It sounds personal from that 2nd judge. and that old man is in his 70’s…… WRONG FEDs

  • Just leave them alone and it will go away

  • Just leave them alone and it will go away

  • Keep up the good work

  • Keep up the good work

  • Are they a militia because they are white?

  • Are they a militia because they are white?

  • As soon as I see religion mentioned I immediately think whacko’s.

  • As soon as I see religion mentioned I immediately think whacko’s.

  • Bout time for a false flag ain’t it?

  • Bout time for a false flag ain’t it?

  • they are peacefuly assembled on public property exercising their second amendment rights. Anyone making more of it than that needs to read the constitution.

  • they are peacefuly assembled on public property exercising their second amendment rights. Anyone making more of it than that needs to read the constitution.

  • Anything that stands against oppression is justified. I would say it’s even required.

  • Anything that stands against oppression is justified. I would say it’s even required.

  • They are a joke.one step forward and three steps back.

  • They are a joke.one step forward and three steps back.

  • Justified, undoubtedly, next we need this in every state, and finally a civil war to remove all the corruption possible

  • Justified, undoubtedly, next we need this in every state, and finally a civil war to remove all the corruption possible

  • duh, build a fence around them and tell them they can’t come out…

  • duh, build a fence around them and tell them they can’t come out…

  • no

  • no

  • Enough is enough. If they take everything from you and blatantly disregard the constitution and its laws which clearly state the government is the peoples mandate. Well the people have spoken and if the government was the peoples they would stand down and revoke the unjust sentences these men received. But they havnt.

    • You gun toting right wing nut job. Everyone knows the liberal agenda is what’s best for you. Just submit

  • Enough is enough. If they take everything from you and blatantly disregard the constitution and its laws which clearly state the government is the peoples mandate. Well the people have spoken and if the government was the peoples they would stand down and revoke the unjust sentences these men received. But they havnt.

    • You gun toting right wing nut job. Everyone knows the liberal agenda is what’s best for you. Just submit

  • I mean, you can be on either side of it, but they’re breaking the law regardless… its not like it being justified suddenly makes what they’re doing legal

  • I mean, you can be on either side of it, but they’re breaking the law regardless… its not like it being justified suddenly makes what they’re doing legal

  • Fuck em up

  • Fuck em up

  • no

  • no

  • Treat the bassturds just like US Citizens peacefully demonstration at Ferguson Missouri were treated by our NATIONAL GUARD and MILITARIZED Police. Give’m a taste of the TAMIR RICE Treatment. EQUALITY MATTERS.

  • We The People

  • We The People

  • IMO They are just as justified as the Black lives matter movement…now if we could just get both groups together it would start some shit the govt couldnt stop!

  • IMO They are just as justified as the Black lives matter movement…now if we could just get both groups together it would start some shit the govt couldnt stop!

  • Other religions are doing it, only a matter of time til it caught on…

  • Other religions are doing it, only a matter of time til it caught on…

  • I think the Hammonds need a fair shake from someone and probably redress from the gov’t. City folks please don’t post about what you don’t know about. The gov’t screws you one way and us another. We don’t know anymore ABOUT YOUR TROUBLE THAN YOU KNOW ABOUT OURS (DAMN CAPS LOCK).

  • I think the Hammonds need a fair shake from someone and probably redress from the gov’t. City folks please don’t post about what you don’t know about. The gov’t screws you one way and us another. We don’t know anymore ABOUT YOUR TROUBLE THAN YOU KNOW ABOUT OURS (DAMN CAPS LOCK).

  • Could you imagine if that was black’s…they would of been killed before it started

  • Could you imagine if that was black’s…they would of been killed before it started

  • I kind of think large tracts of land should not be anyone’s property. It can be lived on and cultivated without being owned in the strictest sense. The best thing they could do would be to declare the who land property of no one, and protect the people who live there and want to visit from the government.

  • I kind of think large tracts of land should not be anyone’s property. It can be lived on and cultivated without being owned in the strictest sense. The best thing they could do would be to declare the who land property of no one, and protect the people who live there and want to visit from the government.

  • People calling for drone strikes are the ones calling police to tone down treating lack lives matter

  • People calling for drone strikes are the ones calling police to tone down treating lack lives matter

  • Those calling for drone strikes on these people are the same ones who say police are too tough on black lives matter members. How about no drone strikes in ANY citizen?

  • Those calling for drone strikes on these people are the same ones who say police are too tough on black lives matter members. How about no drone strikes in ANY citizen?

  • Wonder what would had happened if they were all black guys with guns??

  • Wonder what would had happened if they were all black guys with guns??

  • They signed the deal now they want to add to it wow only our judicial system. They served the time now leave them be

  • They signed the deal now they want to add to it wow only our judicial system. They served the time now leave them be

  • They’re just protesting just like Eric Holder did.

  • They’re just protesting just like Eric Holder did.

  • I think they should be tried the same as every other american

  • I think they should be tried the same as every other american

  • YES, NEED MANY MORE LIKE THEM.

  • YES, NEED MANY MORE LIKE THEM.

  • The people are obligated to disobey unjust laws, this is one of those times.

  • The people are obligated to disobey unjust laws, this is one of those times.

  • lets riot like they did in Ferguson and Boston

  • lets riot like they did in Ferguson and Boston

  • Aww Feds taking there land? Guess they know what its like to be Native American now!

  • Aww Feds taking there land? Guess they know what its like to be Native American now!

  • justified

  • justified

  • they want they want they want they want they can never get enough

  • they want they want they want they want they can never get enough

  • Yes, they are justified.

  • Yes, they are justified.

  • There is nothing criminal about standing up against a tyrannical regime. It is even stated by many founders, and in founding doccuments, that as citizens of these United states, it is our DUTY to oppose unconstitutional actions and laws set forth upon us by the government on all levels, especially those set by the federal government. Sticking to that code is true patriotism.

  • There is nothing criminal about standing up against a tyrannical regime. It is even stated by many founders, and in founding doccuments, that as citizens of these United states, it is our DUTY to oppose unconstitutional actions and laws set forth upon us by the government on all levels, especially those set by the federal government. Sticking to that code is true patriotism.

  • I think I need some facts before making a decision on this matter

  • I think I need some facts before making a decision on this matter

  • These people will realize their mistake when drones blow their kids to kingdom come while they are shopping at the grocery store next to the target.

  • for a Superior Court Judge to get involved,..there must be some illegal action on the part of the Feds…https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=aonXxCze0qc&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DB3JqIceKh6I%26feature%3Dshare

  • for a Superior Court Judge to get involved,..there must be some illegal action on the part of the Feds…https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=aonXxCze0qc&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DB3JqIceKh6I%26feature%3Dshare

  • Its funny how all the fake alternative sites ask the subscribers their opinion instead of posting their own…… see how that works?

  • Its funny how all the fake alternative sites ask the subscribers their opinion instead of posting their own…… see how that works?

  • … the federal government has been trying to screw people out there land rights for years and they’re going to use this protest as an excuse to have another Waco killing spree … this is another gun grab excuse that scumbags like Obama are going to gladly quarterback as all these NWO scum would say … never let a good crisis go to waist

  • … the federal government has been trying to screw people out there land rights for years and they’re going to use this protest as an excuse to have another Waco killing spree … this is another gun grab excuse that scumbags like Obama are going to gladly quarterback as all these NWO scum would say … never let a good crisis go to waist

  • I really am not sure. But knowing the U.S. government i will say it is better to take a real good look into what is happening and why than it is to to jump on the band wagon and start condemning them. I am pretty sure that the govern had some kind of a contract with these people it is trying to violate. Probably in the name of the one percent that want to buy the land.

  • I really am not sure. But knowing the U.S. government i will say it is better to take a real good look into what is happening and why than it is to to jump on the band wagon and start condemning them. I am pretty sure that the govern had some kind of a contract with these people it is trying to violate. Probably in the name of the one percent that want to buy the land.

  • About time people start getting off their couches to make a difference, look up the video on you tube about the Hammond ranch and all the other stuff the BLM has been doing across this great land of ours, people are getting tired of getting screwed by the federal government and our politicians, hope this is just the start, did you see that congress just passed the bill that hides where your meat/ food is coming from? How much more are the people supposed to take of all this dirty crap. Have you seen the video also on the “seeds of death”, the extensive study that was done in England, all the grotesque tumors the mice got after just two years of eating GMO foods, all the ones eating normal food were just fine, the professor that did the two year study was fired the day after the report was released, just way to much dirt going on in this country and the world. I hope these people prevail, we should actually be there with them…

  • About time people start getting off their couches to make a difference, look up the video on you tube about the Hammond ranch and all the other stuff the BLM has been doing across this great land of ours, people are getting tired of getting screwed by the federal government and our politicians, hope this is just the start, did you see that congress just passed the bill that hides where your meat/ food is coming from? How much more are the people supposed to take of all this dirty crap. Have you seen the video also on the “seeds of death”, the extensive study that was done in England, all the grotesque tumors the mice got after just two years of eating GMO foods, all the ones eating normal food were just fine, the professor that did the two year study was fired the day after the report was released, just way to much dirt going on in this country and the world. I hope these people prevail, we should actually be there with them…

  • It isn’t their land. The people who have taken over the building in Oregon are claiming to protest “tyranny” by the federal government in how the Bureau of Land Management treats ranchers on federal property. They claim oppression, but they’re knowledge in American history, and what actually defines tyranny is lacking.

    The land the occupiers are claiming as “theirs” is actually land that the federal government previously stole from the Northern Paiute tribe. The Paiutes used to own 1.5 million acres of land, but have now been relegated to a reservation amounting to just 750 acres in Burns, Oregon.

    “President U.S. Grant established the Maiheur Indian Reservation for the Northern Paiute in 1872. It is no coincidence that the historical reservation shares a name with the Maiheur National Wildlife Refuge, site of the current armed standoff.”

  • It isn’t their land. The people who have taken over the building in Oregon are claiming to protest “tyranny” by the federal government in how the Bureau of Land Management treats ranchers on federal property. They claim oppression, but they’re knowledge in American history, and what actually defines tyranny is lacking.

    The land the occupiers are claiming as “theirs” is actually land that the federal government previously stole from the Northern Paiute tribe. The Paiutes used to own 1.5 million acres of land, but have now been relegated to a reservation amounting to just 750 acres in Burns, Oregon.

    “President U.S. Grant established the Maiheur Indian Reservation for the Northern Paiute in 1872. It is no coincidence that the historical reservation shares a name with the Maiheur National Wildlife Refuge, site of the current armed standoff.”

  • The Hammond family should stay strong. I’d be fighting like hell as well to keep my land if the f’n government was trying to take it.

  • The Hammond family should stay strong. I’d be fighting like hell as well to keep my land if the f’n government was trying to take it.

  • They are NOT justified in any way.

  • They are NOT justified in any way.

  • Totally Right

  • Totally Right

  • I think the BLM should be prosecuted and be disbanded and replaced by a bureau that cares about the American people.

  • I think the BLM should be prosecuted and be disbanded and replaced by a bureau that cares about the American people.

  • The Hammond family want nothing to do with this stupidity. This is Bundy and crew having a tantrum.

  • The Hammond family want nothing to do with this stupidity. This is Bundy and crew having a tantrum.

  • Justified, and breaking what law, assmebly, speach, ???

  • Justified, and breaking what law, assmebly, speach, ???

  • Justified

  • Justified

  • Next, we’ll just have the government quit trying to steal citizens land. That’s a start

  • Next, we’ll just have the government quit trying to steal citizens land. That’s a start

  • I think a drone airstrike will be the good american way to deal with terrorism.

  • I think a drone airstrike will be the good american way to deal with terrorism.

  • Breaking the law – they need to contribute to society…

  • Breaking the law – they need to contribute to society…

  • They haven’t hurt anyone but the media has power to make them devils for their bosses.

  • They haven’t hurt anyone but the media has power to make them devils for their bosses.

  • Drones are for pussies like Obama

  • Drones are for pussies like Obama

  • IT IS A TRAP!!! Get OUT Now!!!

  • IT IS A TRAP!!! Get OUT Now!!!

  • Im with the Hammond family. All the way from Australia. This garbage has to stop….violence and stand over is all your government knows….im hoping they are set up nicely. Thin em out guys, then chop em down. Stand strong. Fight hard. Never take a backward step. Id be there with you if i could….

  • Im with the Hammond family. All the way from Australia. This garbage has to stop….violence and stand over is all your government knows….im hoping they are set up nicely. Thin em out guys, then chop em down. Stand strong. Fight hard. Never take a backward step. Id be there with you if i could….

  • Armed takeover of a federal facility IS against the law no matter how you try to justify it.

    • That’s what I was trying to explain to a young, radical family member last night. I really don’t think we need a war here right now.

  • Armed takeover of a federal facility IS against the law no matter how you try to justify it.

    • That’s what I was trying to explain to a young, radical family member last night. I really don’t think we need a war here right now.

  • gas em out, starve em out, whatever. they’re being really stupid over this. i understand they feel like their rights were violated, but acting out the way they are isn’t going to fix it. it’s like a kid having a tantrum. they are still going to be punished for it, afterward, in one way or another. they need to fight for their rights like the rest of the people in this country, by putting on some nice clothes, typing up some papers, and taking this to court. they should know by now that the US has a huge miscarriage of system. looks like nobody is immune. (i don’t support them one way or the other, and i do dislike the “justice” system shitting all over people in the “land of the free”, where we have “rights”, but this is just silly. they aren’t kids anymore, and this isn’t the right way to handle the situation)

  • gas em out, starve em out, whatever. they’re being really stupid over this. i understand they feel like their rights were violated, but acting out the way they are isn’t going to fix it. it’s like a kid having a tantrum. they are still going to be punished for it, afterward, in one way or another. they need to fight for their rights like the rest of the people in this country, by putting on some nice clothes, typing up some papers, and taking this to court. they should know by now that the US has a huge miscarriage of system. looks like nobody is immune. (i don’t support them one way or the other, and i do dislike the “justice” system shitting all over people in the “land of the free”, where we have “rights”, but this is just silly. they aren’t kids anymore, and this isn’t the right way to handle the situation)

  • cut off water and power, seal the area and wait them out, then arrest them for the laws they are breaking

  • cut off water and power, seal the area and wait them out, then arrest them for the laws they are breaking

  • Militia???? A bunch of boy scout rejects does not equate to A well regulated militia……as mentioned in the 2nd amendment. These guys are criminals and should be arrested and held to account according to the law.

  • Militia???? A bunch of boy scout rejects does not equate to A well regulated militia……as mentioned in the 2nd amendment. These guys are criminals and should be arrested and held to account according to the law.

  • I’m all about standing up for our rights and beliefs but I just can’t look past the double standard of this while situation . seriously if these people happened to be a different color different ethnic background they would’ve been dead by now .

  • I’m all about standing up for our rights and beliefs but I just can’t look past the double standard of this while situation . seriously if these people happened to be a different color different ethnic background they would’ve been dead by now .

  • http://www.facebook.com/monkeysinabox
    This is a page devoted to the spread of knowledge. Providing you with the spark to set this world on fire with the truth. Content includes: Alternative Media, Awareness of False Flag Operations, The NWO, Spiritual Awakening, Holistic Health, The Growing Global Police State and it’s Brutality, Philosophical Enlightenment, Drug Prohibition, Justice Against Israeli Apartheid and its Occupaton of Palestine, as well as Anti-Bigotry and Anti-Discrimination Views, among others.

    This page works to tear down the putrid and rotting open wound of Consumerism, Capitalism, Authoritarianism, Totalitarianism, Fascism, Nazism, Extremism, and Racism. It is only through the voice of the voiceless, the vox populi – that anything is possible if we try.

    Let the ruling classes tremble at Revolution. We, the people have nothing to lose but our chains. We have a world to win. Who’s with us?

  • http://www.facebook.com/monkeysinabox
    This is a page devoted to the spread of knowledge. Providing you with the spark to set this world on fire with the truth. Content includes: Alternative Media, Awareness of False Flag Operations, The NWO, Spiritual Awakening, Holistic Health, The Growing Global Police State and it’s Brutality, Philosophical Enlightenment, Drug Prohibition, Justice Against Israeli Apartheid and its Occupaton of Palestine, as well as Anti-Bigotry and Anti-Discrimination Views, among others.

    This page works to tear down the putrid and rotting open wound of Consumerism, Capitalism, Authoritarianism, Totalitarianism, Fascism, Nazism, Extremism, and Racism. It is only through the voice of the voiceless, the vox populi – that anything is possible if we try.

    Let the ruling classes tremble at Revolution. We, the people have nothing to lose but our chains. We have a world to win. Who’s with us?

  • It’s a slippery slope Every one, today it’s privileged white guys, tommrow its armed black guys and Latino or Syrians. This is setting an example of behavior. You don’t like how things are going? Grab some guns and act violent and threaten the government and u get what u want. The seasick faces, could of gone threw courts and threw demonstrations and peaceful protest, they could of turned people to there cause instead they have made them selves traitors and terrorist over land that isn’t there’s to own, over rights they are far from losing. This is the desperation of a minority of Americans whom are quickly loosing there privileged statues.

  • It’s a slippery slope Every one, today it’s privileged white guys, tommrow its armed black guys and Latino or Syrians. This is setting an example of behavior. You don’t like how things are going? Grab some guns and act violent and threaten the government and u get what u want. The seasick faces, could of gone threw courts and threw demonstrations and peaceful protest, they could of turned people to there cause instead they have made them selves traitors and terrorist over land that isn’t there’s to own, over rights they are far from losing. This is the desperation of a minority of Americans whom are quickly loosing there privileged statues.

  • I’m Pro Militia and anti obomba

  • I’m Pro Militia and anti obomba

  • Uber justified fight on patriots!!!

  • Uber justified fight on patriots!!!

  • no riots, no burning buildings, no business destroyed and they are proud of our flag

  • no riots, no burning buildings, no business destroyed and they are proud of our flag

  • apparently two folks were urged to plead guilty, they did and they did their time, then the feds changed their minds, and threw them back in jail. You know by now there is so much disinformation, that any judgment fuels more contention.

  • apparently two folks were urged to plead guilty, they did and they did their time, then the feds changed their minds, and threw them back in jail. You know by now there is so much disinformation, that any judgment fuels more contention.

  • They’re completely justified. The two men never actually committed a crime to begin with. But they were arrested, tried, and convicted anyway. The judge tried to be a good guy and gave them the lightest sentence he could. Now the government is violating their constitutional protection against “double jeopardy” and is attempting to prosecute and imprison them again for the same incident just because they feel the previous sentence wasn’t harsh enough.

  • They’re completely justified. The two men never actually committed a crime to begin with. But they were arrested, tried, and convicted anyway. The judge tried to be a good guy and gave them the lightest sentence he could. Now the government is violating their constitutional protection against “double jeopardy” and is attempting to prosecute and imprison them again for the same incident just because they feel the previous sentence wasn’t harsh enough.

  • Drones would alright if they hit their mark.

  • Drones would alright if they hit their mark.

  • Just send in the national guard troops after them. End of story.

  • Just send in the national guard troops after them. End of story.

  • This is nothing compared to Ferguson where people were actually committing crimes and violence. These people are trying to raise awareness.

  • This is nothing compared to Ferguson where people were actually committing crimes and violence. These people are trying to raise awareness.

  • Next , the BLM bureaurats should be thrown in jail along with the fed prosecution.

  • Next , the BLM bureaurats should be thrown in jail along with the fed prosecution.

  • A freshman at Columbia university in 1970,
    Future Attorney General ERIC Holder participated in a five-day occupation of an abandoned Naval Reserve officer Training Corps (ROTC) headquarters with a group of black students’ organization as ”ARMED,”
    Black radicals from the same group also occupied the office of Dean of freshman Henry Coleman until their demands were met. Holder has publicly acknowledged being a part of that action.
    They held out until the ROTC building was re-purposesed as the
    ”Malcolm X Lounge” to honor honor of a man who recognized the importance of territory as a basis for nationhood.

  • A freshman at Columbia university in 1970,
    Future Attorney General ERIC Holder participated in a five-day occupation of an abandoned Naval Reserve officer Training Corps (ROTC) headquarters with a group of black students’ organization as ”ARMED,”
    Black radicals from the same group also occupied the office of Dean of freshman Henry Coleman until their demands were met. Holder has publicly acknowledged being a part of that action.
    They held out until the ROTC building was re-purposesed as the
    ”Malcolm X Lounge” to honor honor of a man who recognized the importance of territory as a basis for nationhood.

  • I think they are breaking the law and wonder why nothing is being done.

  • I think they are breaking the law and wonder why nothing is being done.

  • Let them run out of Cheetos and starve.

  • Let them run out of Cheetos and starve.

  • It’s only rhetoric. Don’t be stupid.

  • Totally justified. Need to happen more around the country! Remember Battle of Athens? We need to stand up and fight against tyranny and unjust by our corrupt govt

  • Totally justified. Need to happen more around the country! Remember Battle of Athens? We need to stand up and fight against tyranny and unjust by our corrupt govt

  • There is more to the story!

  • There is more to the story!

  • Yes I do think they are justified. Find out the entire story that caused this it started in 1994. With BLM tyring to steal land and water rights. Look it up the entire story is on Facebook. JUST LOOK.

  • Yes I do think they are justified. Find out the entire story that caused this it started in 1994. With BLM tyring to steal land and water rights. Look it up the entire story is on Facebook. JUST LOOK.

  • Revolution

  • Revolution

  • I think it’s a stupid idea and I’ve not read all about it but am I missing how this is not like Occupy? Are they peaceful? Have they threatened anyone? How is it not civil disobedience?

  • I think it’s a stupid idea and I’ve not read all about it but am I missing how this is not like Occupy? Are they peaceful? Have they threatened anyone? How is it not civil disobedience?

  • Notice:

    What is happening in Oregon is NOT domestic terrorism, but desperate people trying to maintain what is theirs in the face of unlawful government. The facts:

    The federal government has bought out all the ranchers and farmers that will sell.
    The federal government has scared off all the ranchers and farmers that will scare.

    Now they must resort to fascist tactics. The Hammonds refused to sell. They refused to scare. The federal government trumped up false charges of arson to put them in prison for refusing to give in to the feds theft of their land.

    The Hammonds were actually preserving their land through controlled burns. The feds don’t like controlled burns because it takes their control away. The feds charged the Hammonds with arson alleging they were burning to cover up poaching. Remember, we are talking about the Hammond’s land. The feds charged them with arson on their own land to cover up poaching on their own land. Now they are destitute. They have spent everything to legally defend what is rightly theirs and the federal government has used OUR money as deep pockets to destroy these people. That is WICKED.

    Remember! These protestors in Oregon have not done anything that rises to the magnitude of Ferguson or Baltimore. Obama said he understood Ferguson and Baltimore but now the feds are crying domestic terrorism for a real peaceful demonstration? Seriously? Why are the feds upset? Perhaps because its something the feds think they own that is being seized. Its ok for thugs to destory private property in a riot but not ok for law abiding citizens to peacefully protest federal thuggary. That’s the government we have today, America.

    The people have grown tired of the BLM’s fascism and it is now the feds cry “terrorism.” And now the FBI wants to gag order private citizens. Not me! I WILL NOT BE SILENT.

    THIS is what happens when the feds and the people think the feds have authority to “manage land.”

    CHALLENGE: SHOW ME, anyone, where the Constitution authorizes the federal government to manage land?!?

    The federal government is illegally occupying State and private property. Now these ranchers and farmers have either lost or in threat of losing everything. When I say everything, I mean generations of everything.

    I do not condone violence. This doesn’t have to be violent. I repeat violence is not necessary. But think about this…

    Since the federal government has no Constitutional authority to manage land, what lawful authority do they have to assert any warrants or demands over this property?

    The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. Who is actually breaking the law here?

    It comes down to this….what kind of America do you want to live in? Constitutional Republic or Totalitarian Oligarchy?

  • Notice:

    What is happening in Oregon is NOT domestic terrorism, but desperate people trying to maintain what is theirs in the face of unlawful government. The facts:

    The federal government has bought out all the ranchers and farmers that will sell.
    The federal government has scared off all the ranchers and farmers that will scare.

    Now they must resort to fascist tactics. The Hammonds refused to sell. They refused to scare. The federal government trumped up false charges of arson to put them in prison for refusing to give in to the feds theft of their land.

    The Hammonds were actually preserving their land through controlled burns. The feds don’t like controlled burns because it takes their control away. The feds charged the Hammonds with arson alleging they were burning to cover up poaching. Remember, we are talking about the Hammond’s land. The feds charged them with arson on their own land to cover up poaching on their own land. Now they are destitute. They have spent everything to legally defend what is rightly theirs and the federal government has used OUR money as deep pockets to destroy these people. That is WICKED.

    Remember! These protestors in Oregon have not done anything that rises to the magnitude of Ferguson or Baltimore. Obama said he understood Ferguson and Baltimore but now the feds are crying domestic terrorism for a real peaceful demonstration? Seriously? Why are the feds upset? Perhaps because its something the feds think they own that is being seized. Its ok for thugs to destory private property in a riot but not ok for law abiding citizens to peacefully protest federal thuggary. That’s the government we have today, America.

    The people have grown tired of the BLM’s fascism and it is now the feds cry “terrorism.” And now the FBI wants to gag order private citizens. Not me! I WILL NOT BE SILENT.

    THIS is what happens when the feds and the people think the feds have authority to “manage land.”

    CHALLENGE: SHOW ME, anyone, where the Constitution authorizes the federal government to manage land?!?

    The federal government is illegally occupying State and private property. Now these ranchers and farmers have either lost or in threat of losing everything. When I say everything, I mean generations of everything.

    I do not condone violence. This doesn’t have to be violent. I repeat violence is not necessary. But think about this…

    Since the federal government has no Constitutional authority to manage land, what lawful authority do they have to assert any warrants or demands over this property?

    The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. Who is actually breaking the law here?

    It comes down to this….what kind of America do you want to live in? Constitutional Republic or Totalitarian Oligarchy?

  • Y’all Queda

  • Y’all Queda

  • We do not need stupid laws…, laws are skewed to serve only the governments, corporations…, bankers and the elite…, Wake Up World….., Thanks.

  • We do not need stupid laws…, laws are skewed to serve only the governments, corporations…, bankers and the elite…, Wake Up World….., Thanks.

  • First of all, they are NOT A MILITIA as defined by our Constitution. Secondly, they have unlawfully taken possession of Federal Lands and structure(s). Lastly, they are not supported by The Citizenry of Oregon. They should be charged with their violations and tried in a court of law….pretty simple stuff.

  • First of all, they are NOT A MILITIA as defined by our Constitution. Secondly, they have unlawfully taken possession of Federal Lands and structure(s). Lastly, they are not supported by The Citizenry of Oregon. They should be charged with their violations and tried in a court of law….pretty simple stuff.

  • REVOLUTION!

  • REVOLUTION!

  • The Hammond family have been terribly abused ..they need assistance. and for all this to come out..

  • The Hammond family have been terribly abused ..they need assistance. and for all this to come out..

  • Drone strike, then tomahawk missiles, then some gunships to finish the job.

  • Drone strike, then tomahawk missiles, then some gunships to finish the job.

  • Looking at the big picture, We, The People are justified in altering or abolishing a government which so many people perceive as detrimental. Look no further than polls which demonstrate that the government in Washington DC does not operate with the “consent of the governed”.
    In the narrow context, these folks should not be escalating a protest against government on behalf of people who have rejected the idea of putting up any resistance. The people occupying the wildlife refuge should slip away as quietly as possible before anyone gets hurt and before any more of their names and faces become known.

  • Looking at the big picture, We, The People are justified in altering or abolishing a government which so many people perceive as detrimental. Look no further than polls which demonstrate that the government in Washington DC does not operate with the “consent of the governed”.
    In the narrow context, these folks should not be escalating a protest against government on behalf of people who have rejected the idea of putting up any resistance. The people occupying the wildlife refuge should slip away as quietly as possible before anyone gets hurt and before any more of their names and faces become known.

  • What I love is that most of the militiamen are the hardcore pro gun and pro military type.

    Yet, they’d shoot back at both right now if they were to be removed. They basically justify whenever cops shoot innocents because “shouldn’t have broken the law” yet here they are breaking the law and just expecting to let it happen.

    Doesn’t matter the reason. They are law breakers but since they say it’s for a good reason they don’t believe the cops they love so much should arrest them and even have said they’ll shoot back at those cops.

  • What I love is that most of the militiamen are the hardcore pro gun and pro military type.

    Yet, they’d shoot back at both right now if they were to be removed. They basically justify whenever cops shoot innocents because “shouldn’t have broken the law” yet here they are breaking the law and just expecting to let it happen.

    Doesn’t matter the reason. They are law breakers but since they say it’s for a good reason they don’t believe the cops they love so much should arrest them and even have said they’ll shoot back at those cops.

  • these are desperate people trying to protect whats theres .its no different that billy the kids family when they said no to the railroad going through there land the railroad and goverment murdered them so billy and jesse james became OUTLAWS for revenge on the death of there family and friends its the same thing happening again the goverment will try to make these people out to be outlaws and criminals when there just a family trying to live in peace ITS A FUCKIN DISGRACE the outlaws as always are the corperations and the goverment WAKE THE FUCK UP history repeating its self

  • these are desperate people trying to protect whats theres .its no different that billy the kids family when they said no to the railroad going through there land the railroad and goverment murdered them so billy and jesse james became OUTLAWS for revenge on the death of there family and friends its the same thing happening again the goverment will try to make these people out to be outlaws and criminals when there just a family trying to live in peace ITS A FUCKIN DISGRACE the outlaws as always are the corperations and the goverment WAKE THE FUCK UP history repeating its self

  • Which militia?

  • Which militia?

  • Round them up, disarm them, load them on a plane, send them to the middle east, open the plane door, give them back their guns, face them in the direction of an Isis strong hold. And say by by yall

  • Round them up, disarm them, load them on a plane, send them to the middle east, open the plane door, give them back their guns, face them in the direction of an Isis strong hold. And say by by yall

  • … If you don’t consider this terrorism, you’re part of the problem. Just because they’re US citizens, does not justify their actions.

  • … If you don’t consider this terrorism, you’re part of the problem. Just because they’re US citizens, does not justify their actions.

  • When the tyrannical government breaks laws, tge second ammendment protects the people. Support the constitution and your fellow Americans

  • When the tyrannical government breaks laws, tge second ammendment protects the people. Support the constitution and your fellow Americans

  • I would say this is some type of cia psyop.

  • I would say this is some type of cia psyop.

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    • by today’s standards, Washington was also a terrorist

    • Absolutely correct

    • So when did the feds steal the land, was it before or after the Hammonds poached wildlife, committed arson, threatened federal agents, tampered with witnesses, tried to flee? Was it after he threatened his own nephew? And where do the Bundys come in? The Hammonds don’t even want them there; they’ve already surrendered themselves and are serving their sentences. The Bundys just want money.

    • Armed militia trying to overthrow the government DOES NOT EQUAL peaceful people asking for rights.

      Get a clue.

    • No share button????

    • I am not Caucasian and i have experienced police brutality growing up in Los Angeles and i really hate cops. But….

    • They didn’t steal any land.

    • Jim Scales Not at all, Washington commanded an army, terrorists only have make believe armies, though some armies do terrorize.

    • Bill Vance the British considered Washington a terrorist…

    • These guys are trying to overthrow the government.

      Without supplies.

      Can we all agree they’re idiots?

    • this is retarded

    • SUPREMACISTS FIGHTING ANOTHER SUPREMACIST GROUP FOR LAND THAT BELONGS TO THE INDIGENOUS AMERICANS !!!!!!!!

    • actually, by revolutionary war standards, Washington was a terrorist. All revolutionaries didn’t participate in the “gentleman’s war” that was expected. They used guerrilla warfare, killed musicians on the battlefield, and many other uncommon practices. Do you want to know why? Freedom. Freedom from the monarchy controlling every aspect of their lives.

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    • by today’s standards, Washington was also a terrorist

    • Absolutely correct

    • So when did the feds steal the land, was it before or after the Hammonds poached wildlife, committed arson, threatened federal agents, tampered with witnesses, tried to flee? Was it after he threatened his own nephew? And where do the Bundys come in? The Hammonds don’t even want them there; they’ve already surrendered themselves and are serving their sentences. The Bundys just want money.

    • Armed militia trying to overthrow the government DOES NOT EQUAL peaceful people asking for rights.

      Get a clue.

    • No share button????

    • I am not Caucasian and i have experienced police brutality growing up in Los Angeles and i really hate cops. But….

    • They didn’t steal any land.

    • Jim Scales Not at all, Washington commanded an army, terrorists only have make believe armies, though some armies do terrorize.

    • Bill Vance the British considered Washington a terrorist…

    • These guys are trying to overthrow the government.

      Without supplies.

      Can we all agree they’re idiots?

    • this is retarded

    • SUPREMACISTS FIGHTING ANOTHER SUPREMACIST GROUP FOR LAND THAT BELONGS TO THE INDIGENOUS AMERICANS !!!!!!!!

    • actually, by revolutionary war standards, Washington was a terrorist. All revolutionaries didn’t participate in the “gentleman’s war” that was expected. They used guerrilla warfare, killed musicians on the battlefield, and many other uncommon practices. Do you want to know why? Freedom. Freedom from the monarchy controlling every aspect of their lives.

  • Help us spread this #TRUTH. People need to hear this message. Click ‘Like’ + Share + Comment (even 2 words) & help us reach more facebook users.

    • by today’s standards, Washington was also a terrorist

    • Absolutely correct

    • So when did the feds steal the land, was it before or after the Hammonds poached wildlife, committed arson, threatened federal agents, tampered with witnesses, tried to flee? Was it after he threatened his own nephew? And where do the Bundys come in? The Hammonds don’t even want them there; they’ve already surrendered themselves and are serving their sentences. The Bundys just want money.

    • Armed militia trying to overthrow the government DOES NOT EQUAL peaceful people asking for rights.

      Get a clue.

    • No share button????

    • I am not Caucasian and i have experienced police brutality growing up in Los Angeles and i really hate cops. But….

    • They didn’t steal any land.

    • Jim Scales Not at all, Washington commanded an army, terrorists only have make believe armies, though some armies do terrorize.

    • Bill Vance the British considered Washington a terrorist…

    • These guys are trying to overthrow the government.

      Without supplies.

      Can we all agree they’re idiots?

    • this is retarded

    • SUPREMACISTS FIGHTING ANOTHER SUPREMACIST GROUP FOR LAND THAT BELONGS TO THE INDIGENOUS AMERICANS !!!!!!!!

    • actually, by revolutionary war standards, Washington was a terrorist. All revolutionaries didn’t participate in the “gentleman’s war” that was expected. They used guerrilla warfare, killed musicians on the battlefield, and many other uncommon practices. Do you want to know why? Freedom. Freedom from the monarchy controlling every aspect of their lives.

  • The people calling for drone strikes proves that there is no 1% vs. 99%. Whipped dogs and idiots make up a large part of the American populace.

  • The people calling for drone strikes proves that there is no 1% vs. 99%. Whipped dogs and idiots make up a large part of the American populace.