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Court Rules Police Can Legally Execute Your Dog if It Does Anything But Sit Silently

The United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit concluded Monday that police officers are justified in killing citizens’ pets — even if those animals are not attacking or attempting to attack them.

Judges MOORE and CLAY (Circuit Judges), and HOOD (District Judge) heard an appeal from the plaintiffs Mark and Cheryl Brown, of Battle Creek, Michigan. The Browns filed a lawsuit against the BATTLE CREEK Police Department, the City of Battle Creek, and officers Jeffrey Case, Christof Klein, and Damon Young for the death of their beloved dogs at the hands of sadistic cops.

The incident occurred on April 17th, 2013, when police were attempting to execute a search warrant on the home where the Browns were living because a police informant reported another man, Vincent Jones was distributing heroin, cocaine, and marijuana from the residence. Jones was apprehended before police arrived on the scene.

Mark Brown, who was not a suspect in the search, had gone home on his lunch break to let out his two pit bulls. After doing so, he locked the door and headed back to work when police arrived and detained him. He told them he had a key, and that they didn’t need to destroy the front door to gain entry into the home. But destroy it they did.

The Browns dispute the claims by police that the dogs were barking. Mark Brown even testified the smaller of the two dogs had “never barked a day in her life.” Officer Klein said the larger dog was barking and “lunged” at him, but later admitted the pet “had only moved a few inches.”

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Despite there being no attack, Klein fired a round at the dog. Both dogs ran away from the officers to the basement, obviously fleeing in fear. There, the two dogs were shot and killed by the officers who felt that they could not properly clear the room and effectively execute the search warrant on the home, explaining they “did not feel [the officers] could safely clear the basement with those dogs down there.”

Going further, the officers stated the “basement was loaded. You’ve gotta look under beds, you’ve gotta do everything, and [the dogs] basically prevented us from doing that, and they were protecting that basement.” Klein testified the smaller pit bull was “just standing there” when it was shot and killed.

In spite of these sadistic admissions, the appellate court ruled in favor of the officers, the police department, and the other defendants. They agreed with the lower court ruling that the police officers were covered under “doctrine of qualified immunity” and were therefore not liable for compensating the plaintiffs in the case.

The precedent has now been set. Cops can legally kill your dogs for the sole act of being a dog. If your dog moves, it is dead. If your dog barks, it is dead. If your dog does anything but sit silently in the other room, it is dead. However, as the above case illustrates, even if they are silent in the other room, police can still kill them — just to make their search for arbitrary substances deemed illegal by the state — that much easier.

  • James Latham

    You bastards who claim you are there to protect and serve ever come onto my property and shoot my dog I will make every effort to kill you and will be glad to go to prison if I take one of you out. No excuse to shoot a dog in this country every 98 minutes. Police want respect when they are nothing but murders. My pet is my kid.

    • doucyet

      You harm one of their dogs and your ass will be beat to a pulp, if they don’t kill you you’ll wish they had! Sons of bitches are out of control……………..

      • phlushfish

        A police dog is a sworn officer. Harming one is same as assault on an officer … felony!

        • Layni Shepherd

          Don’t be dull.. you can’t swear a dog in as officer. The things people think. No wonder Trump won.

          • phlushfish

            You’re absolutely wrong! Every police dog is a sworn officer. Harm one & it’s considered a felony. Try it … I dare ya’!

          • PJ London

            “Every police dog is a sworn officer.”
            How can anyone be this stupid.
            Did the dog swear an oath?
            If not, it is not a ‘Sworn” officer.
            They may charge you with a felony, just as stealing a car is a felony, but a dog cannot be an officer nor can it be Sworn.
            The fact that dumbass cops and their followers call it one does not make it true.

          • phlushfish

            Looks like we’re both right. From wikipedia; It is a felony to assault or kill a federal law enforcement animal, and it is a crime in most states to assault or kill a police animal. Yet despite common belief, police dogs are not treated as police officers for the purpose of the law, and attacking a police dog is not punishable in the same manner as attacking a police officer. Though many police departments formally swear dogs in as police officers, this swearing-in is purely honorary, and carries no legal significance.

          • PJ London

            Right so your comment was ignorant and plain wrong.
            Not surprising everything you have said is ignorant and mainly wrong.
            But then you are some Jesus freak who reckons that people can do whatever they want because “Jesus” will forgive them as long as they “truly” repent.
            Well I have news for you.
            The “Rapture” has already happened.
            You are still here.
            Go figure.

          • Traumer

            I’m glad you took the time to look up whether or not you were actually right or wrong in what you were saying because your rebuffs were naive at best, but I also have sincere concern for anyone who gets their legal information from Wiki.

          • Martin Gasman

            It’s a religious ceremony and the dog immediately becomes one of God’s best friends and then gets to know all the dog’s thoughts.

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            Wikipediot is simply that.

          • Core

            In America they recognize police dogs as officers. If you scuffle with the dog they will charge you with the same crime as if you scuffled with a Human officer. If you kill the police dog they charge you with a similar crime as killing a Human officer. I don’t personally know if it sticks in court, never actually seen it play out. Us Americans love our dogs, and the K9 folks have been fighting for hard laws to protect and prevent loss of K9 officers. You can lookup court cases in American local media.

          • PJ London

            They can recognise police dogs as baseball stars, or cats or hookers, it doesn’t make it so.
            And no, nowhere has a court charged a person with homicide or murder for killing an animal, police or otherwise.
            “Under the Federal Law Enforcement Animal Protection Act, which went into effect this week, anyone convicted of purposely assaulting, maiming, or killing federal law enforcement animals such as police dogs and horses could be fined at least $1,000 and spend up to 10 years in prison. Previously, the animals were covered by a variety of state, rather than federal, laws.”
            However your judges can be as ridiculous as your cops.
            “This week, a judge sentenced Kelontre Barefield to be incarcerated for 11 years on multiple burglary charges and 34 years for the death of Jethro, a three-year-old German Shepherd who served as a member of the department’s K-9 unit. Both sentences are to be served consecutively.”
            Cops, Judges the whole dam place is sick!

          • distachio

            How does a police dog “swear” to something? Does it put its paw on a bible and take an oath? The “law” may consider a dog an officer, but laws are not morality, nor are they common sense, nor are they always consistent with reality. And they are certainly rarely in the public interest.

          • phlushfish

            … I’d say mostly they’re in the public interest, except the Jim Crow laws!

          • distachio

            You are hopelessly naïve.

          • phlushfish

            … Seriously, you want thugs running things here like the cartels in Mexico? With all it’s problems, US’s is still the world’s best justice system!

          • distachio

            Lol. We have a LEGAL system. Not a “justice” system.

            Cartels in Mexico wouldn’t exist at all if there were no prohibition laws that created — and perpetuates — the black market in the first place. The War on Drugs is a wasteful, criminal boondoggle that has created far more crime and more violence than ever before. Do you know who is the biggest trafficker of illegal drugs in the US? The CIA! The US DEPENDS on drug trafficking to incentivize informers and other clandestine operations. That is not a conspiracy theory. That is documented fact.

            Do you think anyone would bother to invent these dangerous “designer drugs” if not for prohibitions on the “real” ones? People who want to self-medicate are going to, period, and those who are addicted will pay whatever price and commit whatever crime to get what they crave. And the dealers will charge whatever they want and control entire communities because they know they can do it with impunity, while small-time users go to jail. Read the statistics on the rise of drug-related crime in this country and the associated costs to taxpayers, including the number of non-violent people incarcerated and how much of it could be avoided if the War on Drugs.

            Dear God, do some READING for heaven’s sake! Something besides the Bible!

          • phlushfish

            All that is true! Mexico’s gov’t actually asked US gov’t to legalize cocaine & heroin. Do you want a bunch of drug addicted zombies running around your country? I agree with weed, it’s practically harmless; but, not any harder stuff. People who choose to self medicate, need to study the effects of their actions before taking that 1st hit! Just look at cops mugshots!

          • distachio

            Anyone of those who endangers or harms someone else while under the influence of their medication of choice would be guilty of a crime. So arrest THEM. BUT, an addicted person who is choosing to poison themselves but is not harming anyone else is none of my damn business, nor yours, nor should it be the government’s.

            The Prohibition Era taught us that not only does prohibition not work, it creates crime and criminals. Yet our government continues to engage in prohibition policies.

          • phlushfish

            … It doesn’t effect you until they break into your house to support their habit; and, kill your wife or daughter who may witness it! But, I guess these highly addictive, crime-spree creating drugs should be legal? OK!

          • distachio

            *repeatedly hits head on desk*

            THESE THINGS WOULDN’T HAPPEN IF DRUGS WERE LEGAL! No black market, no incentive for pushers to exploit the addicted, no need to commit crimes to support their habit!

            Aaarrrghhh!!! Take a freaking ECONOMICS class!!

          • phlushfish

            … Or we could choose not to ingest drugs or alcohol.

          • Mary Abbott

            We aren’t saying that we want cops to disappear. Just that it’s not right to shoot an innocent animals and any officer that thinks its acceptable should turn in their badge. It’s pathetic this is legal.

          • phlushfish

            … Just try walking in a cops shoes …

          • billdeserthills

            Now whose the copsucking pos?? Hope you get all the brown stains out of their underwear as well

          • zach

            america is a shithole, not as bad a shithole as mexico but Im glad I dont live there. People are dirty, poor, ignorant, and think they are god’s gift to humanity.

          • Pamela Schild Lain

            We’re glad you don’t live here too. We have enough assholes.

          • David Hall

            There is only an In-Justice system.

          • billdeserthills

            Unfortunately the US is far from the Freest Country, due to the huge amounts of people in jail for committing victimless crimes

          • ExNuke

            Best one money can buy. We don’t have a “justice system” we have a “Just Us System”.

          • Brent Rendall

            “US’s is still the world’s best justice system” ROLF this guy ^
            Have you been living under a rock for the last 10 years or are all the murderers and rapists walking free in your country are just no concern to you?

          • Doran Zeigler

            Do the dogs raise a hind paw or a front paw when taking the oath?

            Well, at least you wised up and did some research, but you should have done it before making your inane comments about “sworn” officers.

          • phlushfish

            … I meant sworn by the force; but, good catch, though!!

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people.

        • SobawRF

          And my pets are my kids. Killing one unjustly is just like committing murder!

          • phlushfish

            No, your pets are your pets. Your kids are human beings. See the difference?

          • distachio

            And a police dog cannot “swear” to anything and is still a dog. And in both cases, it is the killing of an innocent. NO difference!

          • phlushfish

            A policeman kills your dog, boo-hoo! You harm a police dog, you’re facing charges. That’s the difference!

          • distachio

            I understand the LEGAL difference. You, apparently, cannot discern the difference between what is legal and what is moral. If you are one of those that thinks a sweet uniform and a shiny badge issued by the gubmint gives someone extra rights to commit acts that would be a crime for everyone else, then you are a moral idiot beyond help.

          • phlushfish

            … in some cases, it does! I can’t use lethal force on you in a citizen arrest (if you’re not attacking me inside my home); but, an officer can! That’s just the tip of the iceberg …

          • distachio

            Yes. Knowing that the LAW says that I have to stop and do what a cop says because I WILL DIE IF I DON’T, is not a MORAL argument. You have yet to make a moral argument; only what the LAW says I must do, or else.

            This is the Free Thought Project. Not the Let’s All Cheer the Cops Like Good Little Statists Project.

          • Junebug

            Distachio, much respect for your argument… In regards to phlushfish… I thought, how can this person be so dense and not get it, but then I realized… Oh, distachio is arguing with a child… I mean, come on ‘phlush fish’. Ridiculous.
            ANYWAY, yet another bullshit law put into effect, in order to take away your most basic rights, making you powerless… This government chips away at it’s citizens a little more every day… They won’t be satisfied until we are completely controlled and without the respect or consideration of common decency.
            You can’t tell me that animal control couldn’t have been called to secure the dogs. Absolutely disgusting.

          • Vonn KCO

            exactly, or how about have the owners remove the dogs to another location???? They werent being charged. the owners werent even who they were looking for!

          • T. Mohr

            Resistance to authority is a human right. If our ancestors hadn’t resisted, we wouldn’t be the United States of America.

          • Adam Selene

            Exactly. Well spoken. 🙂

          • Vonn KCO

            true fucking that. Cops these days are arrogant pigs. pun intended. Even that cop a few days ago who murdered that guy who was unarmed with both hands on the steering wheel and was surrendering after a chase, the cop shot him 47 times, had to reload multiple times. this was ONE cop. the other cops pressed charges and testified against him in a manslaughter case and HE STILL GOT OFF!!!
            cops are supposed to be civil servants, there for one purpose, to uphold the civility and peace of their directed territories by ticketing, arresting and charging those who don;t follow the law…. not playin judge, jury and executioner of ppl OR pets. Having that tin badge doesn;t grant ANYONE the right to just kill ppl and pets all willy-nilly, all while making up their own versions of the law as they go.
            The police are NOT the military and need to stop acting like it. They are not judge Dredd so they can cut that shit out too.

          • Hellz Naw

            “true fucking that. Cops these days are arrogant pigs. pun intended.” Uhhhhh…you might wanna do some research on the definition of “pun”.

          • phlushfish

            Right! So, you’re gonna argue morality with cops? Let the lawyers figure it out!

          • godot42

            NO!!! “Let the lawyers figure it out”?!? Are you fucking nuts? Lawyers have no morals, they just want to get paid. They’ll say anything you want them to say. You need to go back and get a basic education.

          • Steve Jakobs

            Citizens arrest does not exist…It might exist technically the law books, but what do you think would happen if you tried to “citizens arrest” someone? They would laugh in your face or maybe, depending on the person, beat the fuck out of you.

          • godot42

            Boy are you wrong. I’ve conducted four citizen arrests in my life so far, and you’d better believe the people took it seriously when it happened. Resisting a citizen’s arrest is a felony, which you’re supposed to say to the person so they know if they try to “beat the fuck out of you” they’re committing an elevated crime (a felony, rather than misdemeanor assault and battery). Additionally, the long, steel baton in my hand makes a convincing argument to remain calm, since if you did resist I’d have the legal right to use force to retain you, while you don’t have the right to use force to escape. I’ve never had to actually use it, since the prospect of waking up in a hospital to discover broken arms, knees and a cracked cranium while STILL being under arrest isn’t an attractive one to most people. But you’re wrong if you think they don’t happen.

            In fairness, two of the four times were simply noise complaints against businesses, but the other two were physical confrontations, one of whom was much, much bigger than me (He was 6’9″, and I’m only 5’10’). He punched me in the face. Since I was wearing sunglasses, it cut my face and I got 12 stitches…and a $250,000 judgment, thank you very much. 🙂 ) He was still arrested, prosecuted, and spent six months in jail. Plus the lawsuit. The fact is that he punched me for calling his wife a cunt, not because I was trying to arrest him. It was only after he punched me that I arrested him, and he was quite cooperative. He knew he’d screwed up. Maybe you should take a lesson from him. It could save you a quarter million dollars.

          • T. Mohr

            Godot42, I just read your comments and was intrigued by your experiences with citizens arrest. Can you elaborate on the two noise complaints you mentioned. My wife and I have a similar situation involving noise complaints and we would love to hear how you resolved your experience with this. Thanks in advance.

          • godot42

            Yes. Essentially, you are the arresting officer, but the police effect the arrest. I don’t know what it is in your state, but I’m in California, so it is a violation of Penal Code 415. It proceeds from a noise complaint. When you’re having a problem with noise, and call the police, you tell them you would like them to effect a citizen’s arrest on the party making the noise, agreeing that you will sign the arrest order. That may require you going to court to testify, since you’re the arresting officer and the one making the complaint. They will warn you that if you do make the arrest, the other party has the right to make an arrest right back against you. It becomes a messy situation if they do, since you would then have to defend yourself in that trial (which may or may not be separate from theirs, depending on the city attorney). I didn’t have to deal with that, since in both circumstances I pressed charges and signed the complaint, the accused party admitted guilt and paid the fine. The first one was an Mexican restaurant playing loud music on Fridays, and the other was my next door neighbor, living in the apartment next to me. I gave both warnings before taking action, including calling the police on them on previous occasions before actually signing the arrest complaint. No one could say I wasn’t patient. However, I have the right to the quiet enjoyment of my residence. They do not have the right to throw a party. On the first occasion, with the restaurant, I was only staying nearby for six weeks on business (having to get up early each Saturday), so the problem didn’t last anyway. As for my neighbor, I’ll tell you that once you sign an official complaint, which comes with a fine and a court date, they aren’t too friendly to you anymore. Whatever, he moved out a few months later. He was upset I used legal leverage to control his behavior, which I can understand, but I care more about being able to sleep at night. I explained to him (and this is true) that every time I signed a ticket, the fine would increase. It doesn’t stay at the same level, but is progressive. Anyway, you have to document everything, especially after taking official steps against a neighbor, since sometimes they’ll try to retaliate and you will eventually end up at least in civil court, and possibly (hopefully not) criminal court. I’m jealous of my legal rights, so I protect them aggressively, and I don’t mind the fight that comes with all that.

          • T. Mohr

            Thank you for the details on the noise complaint arrests. My wife and I have a situation here where 6 years ago we moved into a home 1.2 miles from an Amphitheater that has musical artists playing from April to October. The cops are worthless, the county government is clearly in bed with the venue and quiet enjoyment of our residence is impossible. We couldn’t find a lawyer that would take our case against the venue. Praying for a sinkhole to open up and swallow the venue soon. April is coming.

          • godot42

            You might also talk to the venue and see if they give you and your wife free season tickets for your troubles. It’s not a solution to your problem, but you might sell the ones with popular performances and make a little cash. Just a thought. Also, because it is a large venue that likely brings in tons of cash to the city in terms of tax revenue, you won’t get action on shutting them down, but you might be able to force them to put in better sound-proofing. You’re in a difficult situation, because you’re not dealing with a single entity (like my neighbor), but with multiple agencies, with many people’s finger dipping in the jar of honey. I feel for you. Have you tried to contact your Congressional representative or State Senator? Maybe there are zoning laws that exist already that are being ignored due to the tax income, that you can work towards getting them enforced. That would make it an easier situation for you, but still difficult. I’m just trying to think of things that might help you. Anyway, good luck.

          • Joseph Bettis

            Do you know the same person can Citizen arrest you as well…it’ll still be your word against his..a cop would need to be present for it to stick…and for you calling his wife a slut instigated it…there should be a law against Aggravated Harassment i.e trolling to get someone to hit you…for noise complaints you’re supposed to notify the cops not try and think your tough and handle it yourself. And further more i would like to see the day you try that on the wrong person.. get more than a punch to the face.

          • Joseph Bettis

            And if you read the actual definition of a citizen arrest it only works on felony’s disturbing the peace has to be proven as malicious ( meaning on purpose ) most times the cops will come to tell you to turn down said radio etc it isn’t a arrest-able offence because has to be proven as malicious as i said.. so you coming to arrest his for a noise complaint is BS you instigated that shit that’s why this shit is left up to the cops.

          • Hellz Naw

            😂 lmao Did you ever think about the difference between you and someone who has in a lot of training on making arrests (not even including the academy), in a lot of cases ones who majored in Criminal justice or at least graduated college? That COULD be the reason why all citizens aren’t allowed to use deadly force when they feel like it.

          • Kevin

            In some states police officers are only authorized to use deadly force in any situation that an ordinary citizen could.

          • godot42

            I hope you’re describing an iceberg that is in desperate need of being melted. Cops should not have more rights or immunity than the average citizen. The fact they have such legal protections currently does not mean they should. Many of those protections should be stripped from them. Are we starting to get a clear picture yet?

          • phlushfish

            … if you to tell me stop in public, I don’t have to listen to you; but, I’m required to comply with an officer’s verbal commands, etc.

          • Vonn KCO

            to a degree. in many states, unless you were caught commiting a crime of any degree, you do not HAVE to do ANYTHING thte officer tells you, including showing them your ID

          • phlushfish

            … You have to allow them to identify you.

          • RobWatt

            Absolutely not! It’s called stop and identify. Texas is a stop and id state. Here we don’t have to do, say, or provide shit for them unless they are accusing us of a crime.
            You don’t know what you are talking about and the more you say the dumber you make yourself look.
            Silence is your only saving grace now. Be quiet long enough and hope people forget your idiocy before it spreads

          • Adam Selene

            Exactly.

          • godot42

            Actually you don’t. God, you really just make things up as you go, don’t you? I don’t have to show the police any ID just because they ask. They have to have a good reason to ask, and I have every right to question them and determine first if it is a legal reason. The police don’t rule us. They aren’t in command of us. We are not a militarized nation, we’re a free nation, and that includes freedom from being stopped without good cause. If I were stopped by a cop “just because”, perhaps because the cop wanted to prove to me they had the power to do so, I can bring the cop up on misconduct charges (and I would).

          • phlushfish

            Please don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying there aren’t bad cops out there (Lord knows there are!). But there’s more good ones than bad ones; or, it would be chaos!

          • Michael Grimm

            It is chaos.

          • Adam Selene

            Nope.

          • phlushfish

            Not showing ID; but, at least telling your name.

          • Steve Jakobs

            A cop has no right to tell you to do anything…Unless you’re breaking some law, he can’t say shit to you…I’d tell him to go fuck himself.

          • godot42

            That depends on what you’ve done. I have the right as a citizen to stop and arrest you. It’s called a citizen’s arrest. However, if it turns out I did so without a legally justifiable reason (there are several that would allow me to do so) then you get to sue me for false arrest. I don’t just automatically get punished. It’s a civil violation, not a criminal one. However, resisting a citizen’s arrest IS a criminal violation.

          • godot42

            Thank you for making the only valid point here. Excellent post.

          • The cops also get away with torturing and killing their own K9’s. And they get away with a lot more than that, too, if they are members of “The Good Ol’ Boys Club” within the department and within the city and county-wide network. http://www.stopk9torture.com

          • Dez

            Boo hoo? Really? Agree Distachio.. and good rebuttal. This country and so many of the people in it are so ugly inside.. it’s sad really.

          • Mika

            A policeman kills my pet, BOO HOO FOR THEM, because I will shoot them in the face.

          • phlushfish

            Shoot a cop? You must be black!

          • Adam Selene

            Aha! That explains your ignorance rather well. Thank you. 🙂

          • distachio

            Ah. Ok. On to you now.

          • godot42

            You sound like you have your head buried very far up your ass. Screw the police and their dogs. And you. You’re advocating for a fascist approach to policing. If the police aren’t protecting and serving, they have no purpose for existing. If they are immune from prosecution and are committing crimes, they have no purpose for existing.

          • phlushfish

            O God yes! It’s what freed us from the British!

          • Adam Selene

            Exactly, and it is wrong, unjust and unConstitutional.

          • Michael Grimm

            No boo hoo. It means REVENGE REVENGE. That’s the difference.

          • Liz O’neill

            to me there is no difference, my pets are just as much my human kids, and I tell you now, these P.O.S cowards kill my dogs, they are never going to live to collect their blood money pension.

          • phlushfish

            … I think you’d feel differently if they actually came at you with their guns drawn. If you’re anything like me, you’d be struggling not to shit in your pants!!

          • Adrian M. Kleinbergen

            Whether I shit my pants or not, any cop who tries to shoot my pet will live to regret it…

          • Steve Jakobs

            Cops have to go home sometime, don’t they? They can easily be found.

          • Greg Geitner

            or die to regret it.

          • I Can See You

            sht now, get even later.

          • xBMWx

            Thankfully it seems that most of these ppl have more smarts then u and a much bigger set.. maybe since u obviously have no experience with cops, shitty or not then maybe u should hold off on ur opinions and judgements because I think YOU’D not only FEEL differently but also REACT differently if u were ME lol

          • godot42

            Contrary to what you probably believe, most people are not anything like you.

          • Mark Anthony Raymond

            dogs must not like you..

          • Adam Selene

            My dogs would shred that kid just sensing his ill intent.

          • Mike Okey

            Yet the. Cops kill kids almost daily. Wish they could see the difference. But we have never been into highering the best and brightest.

          • billdeserthills

            Exactly, however after the ignorant bully cops get done being sued by the innocent party it turns out it would have been much cheaper for the taxpayers to have simply hired competent police officers after all….

          • Vonn KCO

            if more judges would convict those cops, or settle MORE cases to the victims, then maybe they would. But a lot of these cops now, a lot of the younger ones anyway, were in Afghanistan kicking in doors and rounding up jihadist and now thats the mindset they take to our streets, completely forgetting or ignoring perhaps, that they are here to protect us and be civil defenders fo the law… not to look the most badass in case your getting filmed.

          • phlushfish

            God, if only it were done right from the first time! But, our original British cops were thugs; so, we had to have the 1st amendment. But, don’t you think the pendulum has swung too far if we’re shooting at today’s cops?

          • billdeserthills

            Nope, in fact I’m only sorry that some folks who have shot at cops hadn’t practiced well enough to hit them
            Hurray for dead cops & plenty of them too!!

          • ExNuke

            Are those the same cops who “are the only ones who should be allowed to have guns”?

          • phlushfish

            No; but, you don’t want the Cartels running things now, do you?

          • There is a test, they take in most area’s, that keeps many of those that have the cognition to discern right from wrong out.

          • Vonn KCO

            I will tell you too, go watch Micheal Wood, ex-cop from baltimore talk about police training and the inside scoop. yes, there is a test. but they are basically told to just put the answer you know the test is looking for. they dont really care about mental issues. they just need to look like they do. Many cops are veterans and move to law enforcement after military service. Those guys look out for their own too and help each other get these policeman jobs.

          • phlushfish

            Yes my friend told me that too; as, they just want brute force to enforce all laws, including stupid ones, that ‘intelligent’ folks wouldn’t. I think there needs to be more of a marriage between police force & ‘Law & Order,’ whatever that is, for God’s sake!

          • Vonn KCO

            you should look up Mike Wood, an ex-cop from baltimore. he talks about how they are told off the record to patrole the black neighborhoods with more than 70% of the police force available to each barracks and also talks about how they are NOT trained shooters, not in the least. The shooting test is 1 time a year and they have to hit a life sized human shape paper target from 3,5,10,and15 meters away. They only have to hit each target 1 time out of a whole clip, and if they fail they can try again… and again…. and again… all day until they pass. then they are given a loaded gun and sent out pakcing with itchy racist trigger fingers to the black ghettos of Bmore… thats how we get incidences like Freddy Gray getting a spinal injury on his way to the hospital. Cuz they hire cops who don;t give a fuck, just do what they are told and are willing to hurt ppl. Hurting someone, and especially SHOOTING them, should be the LAST resort. not step 1.

          • Adam Selene

            True, and in fact, po-Lice are being hired specifically FOR having high aggression and low intelligence these days.

          • Pat Giusto

            My pets are “members” of my family; exactly the same as any other member of my family. No one messes with members of my family!

          • phlushfish

            I disagree. When cops arrive, they’re already tense. Their lives are on the line! Any twitch can set them off! They open weapons on your dogs & you do anything but stand frozen with hands in view, you’re asking for bullets to be flying at you, too!

          • Vonn KCO

            duh… thats the fucking problem!!! They are supposed to have training to deal with those kinds of situations and DE-escalate them. not start popping off rounds cuz they jump at their own shadow. And in THIS story, if the dogs weren’t a threat and were doing nothing but standing there then there is ZERO reason that the owners couldn’t transport the dogs to somewhere else on the property, tie them up outside, or have animal control come and remove the pets.
            I can;t but help feeling like your missing the entire point of whats wrong with this whole issue.

          • phlushfish

            Yep. If the cop wants to take the time to do it (most don’t). And, don’t forget, no one can rely on an animal’s good behavior. They’re unpredictable, can turn on a second. Some have been known to turn on their own owners in 1 second. An officer is not required to risk his life because you love your pet.

          • Dawn

            And when cops arrive the person a the house a day male are tense. No excuse for the cop the shoot at all. Sorry but if a tense cop shoots a dog and tense homeowner can shoot a cop. Goes both ways man. Fuck the cops the shoot dogs like that. They said straight up cowards.

          • Poonam Srivastava

            someone flush this fish piece of troll

          • godot42

            Sorry, but they aren’t allowed to be tense, nor are they allowed to let any twitch set them off. They are required to follow due process and respect Constitutional rights. If they can’t do that, they shouldn’t be a cop, end of story. You’re trying to say that the pressures of the job is somehow an excuse for them to act in ways the average citizen would be arrested for. You have no argument. You’re wrong from top to bottom.

          • Dat Eni

            what a little statist cuck you are

          • Adam Selene

            That’s why we have “the button”. 🙂

          • Bac0nKiller

            Trust me, trying to explain this kind of logic to people who regard the animals (pets) they own as their “children”, is a mute point. Somehow, they aren’t swayed to understanding by factors like ‘your “child” uses it’s tongue for shit-paper’……or the fact that they can just leave their pets home alone…….because it’s an animal, and definitely NOT just some furry small child. Cute, maybe…..needs taken care of (thanks to a LONG time of domesticating their creature ancestors so they’ll NEED us to), yes. Those are the only real things in common between having a child and owning (an) animal(s).

          • phlushfish

            Thanks! And, breaking my mother’s rule NOT to correct other’s grammatical mistakes, it’s ‘moot’ point! (I know … I can be an ‘A’ hole!)

          • Bac0nKiller

            No worries, and thanks.

          • Nick Barone

            I don’t really give a flying fuck what you a turd man think about pet owners but cops shooting a dog because it barked is immoral.

          • TexasRedbud

            Well that makes one comment no one will disagree with.

          • Frank Rizzo

            others’, not other’s. sigh

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            Grammar is the grave of letters

          • phlushfish

            Daisy May? Oh, you must be one of those guys who’s not afraid to embrace his feminine side! 🙂

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            I have no feminine side other than a nickname.

          • phlushfish

            Really? Then, why do you have nipples? You do know half of your chromosomes are ‘Y,’ don’t you?

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            I do not need lessons from a dolt like you.

          • phlushfish

            You need ’em from someone!

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            No American breathing can teach any average Brit anything!

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            P.S. I am far from average.

          • James Latham

            Will not agree with you more. A so called religious Ahole.

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            Grammar is the grave of letters.

          • gomurr

            I’m not the grammar police, so don’t take offense, but for future use you may want to know it’s “moot” point, not “mute” point.

          • phlushfish

            You’re not grammar police! Double quotes are for people’s spoken words, single quotes are for highlighting words like ‘mute’ and ‘moot.’

          • Witchwindy

            I’d give almost anything for my kids to love me as much and in the same way that my dogs love me. My dogs NEVER talk back, never call me names when I tell them they can’t do something, or call them on some kind of unacceptable behavior. My kids (who are all in their 50s now) didn’t greet me with joy every time I came home even if I’d only been out in the yard for a few minutes. They never waited looking out the window for my return. My dogs may not be my children, but they love me unconditionally, without reserve, and I love them back just as much. I love my kids (and grandkids and great grandkids), too, and they love me, as well, we have no problematic issues between us, I love when they come to visit, and when they call me just to chat, but the love of a dog is different, and I would be totally devastated if someone killed them, which is exactly the reason cops shoot people’s dogs. The kind of people who become cops are the kind who get a thrill from being a bully; they LOVE exercising their “authority”, cops, politicians, and lawyers/judges are mostly psychopaths or sociopaths, because those kinds of jobs draw those kinds of people.

          • phlushfish

            You’re right in a lot of cases; but, think what life would be without cops. Like in Mexico with the cartels! You want that? I’m glad you love your pets; and, I love pets, too! But, human’s love is a choice; and, we’ve all fallen short. ‘Even though a mother forsake her child, I will not forsake you,’ says the Lord!

          • Witchwindy

            I can easily envision life without cops, here’s an article about a thousand year long anarchy that handled crime without cops — Ireland:
            http://www.notbeinggoverned.com/anarchy-never-been-tried-part-ii-emerald-anarchy/

          • James Latham

            Cops that are bought and paid for by corporate america? Cops that killed people who tried to form Unions? Cops who beat and jailed women who wanted the same rights as men? Cops who killed, beat, jailed peaceful civil right marchers? Cops who have been on the take from drug dealers, pimps, Mafia, and so on.

          • phlushfish

            OK … try living without cops. Mexico’s cartels will eat you alive!

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            The more people I meet the more I like my dog.

          • Vonn KCO

            your as stupid as the other person trolling that nonsense…. I can;t help but feel like your under 20yrs old, which as much as u want it to be otherwise, you don’t really know anything. I know taht sounds like BS and I’m just being a hater but if your half as braindead as the college kids who don;t know who fought in WW2, or what the civil war was about, or know anything about the constitution, then I guess I could excuse your comment on sheer ignorance. but if you are intelligent in the least then you have to understand that when you take care of something, spend a large portion of your life with it, train, teach it, connect with it and LOVE it…. then comparing this small defensless creature who literally couldn’t get by without you to a child isn’t quite so far fetched. Nobody is actually confusing their pets with their kids, hun. The connection they have with their pet resembles that of a PARENT raising and rearing a….(wait for it)…. CHILD!!!!

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            Acquiring a dog may be the only opportunity a human ever has to choose a relative.

          • I Can See You

            from the English major.

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            If your dog doesn’t like someone you probably shouldn’t either.

          • No, your pets are your pets. Your kids are human beings. See the difference?

            No.
            Neither do the cops.

          • Nick Barone

            Oh look, we have an asshat trolling here. So you think it’s OK then for a cop to shoot a dog if it barks when he breaks in? I hope we never meet in public. Will be a bad day for you.

          • phlushfish

            You think it’s OK for your dog to attack an officer? That will be a bad day for your dog (kid). You want to MURDER me for saying humans are more important than dogs? Go ahead! You’re sending me to Heaven! Won’t miss you …

          • godot42

            Yes, if that officer is on my property without a warrant, violating my rights, you’re damn right I want my dog attacking them. Why not? You’re suggesting that a cop is sacrosanct, and that they should be deferred to in every case. Fuck that. A cop is usually a dumbass loser who couldn’t make it to college, and knows far less about the law than I do. Why should I defer to such a person? Just because they have a gun? That’s a good argument to take guns away from cops.

          • godot42

            No wonder. You’re an evangelical. You believe in sky fairies. No wonder you aren’t displaying a rational perspective. Don’t you have a hill to climb to wait for Jesus to come floating down from the clouds like a little birdie? I’ll bet you actually think that today is Jesus’ birthday. (You won’t understand this next part because you don’t have an education, but here goes…) No, this was the winter solstice 2,000 years ago, but due to axial precession the planet has “wobbled” four days, making the solstice on the 21st of December today. Because it was illegal to be a Christian or Jew in the ancient Roman Empire, since it was well known they’d refuse to participate in the cult of the Emperor, they were often prosecuted or killed if they revealed their faith in the open. As a result, by the end of the third century, when they finally started celebrating the birth of Jesus (prior to this, Easter had been the more important holiday), they did so at the same time the Romans were celebrating Brumalia, Saturnalia and the Feast of Mithras, so they could do so in the open without being arrested. Everyone thought they were celebrating the above festivals as well, or else they were too drunk to care at the time. Just a little history for you on Christmas, about this very unChristian of holidays. (Your Christmas tree, wreathes, holly, and Santa all come from Nordic traditions, not Hebrew ones.)

          • Kris S

            You are clueless and bereft of basic emotional intelligence. Oh, and an asshole.

          • Roy H. Blain III

            What if your pets are baby goats?

          • phlushfish

            Same thing! Just don’t let them interfere with the officers.

          • Sallie Dodd Butters

            Dogs bark at intruders….’Let them interfere?’ It’s their bailiwick! If you can’t tell a vicious dog from a protective alert pet then you shouldn’t be a cop or be allowed to carry a gun!

          • phlushfish

            Any animal can turn in 1 second. Even the trained ones. Some have been known to turn on their own owners. An officer is not required to risk his/her life over your pet!

          • Vonn KCO

            then pray your goats dont look too intimidating

          • billdeserthills

            Then you can serve them for dinner after the cops shoot em’

          • Vonn KCO

            as in you care for it, you feed it, you teach it, you spend your life with this companion…. JUST LIKE A KID….fool. Don;t hate on dog lovers for being dog lovers. I’m not one but I’m not dumb enough to try and devalue their affection for their pet/kid.

          • phlushfish

            I am a dog/pet lover; but, I recognize that humans have eternal souls, and animals don’t. If you want to love your pets, go ahead! But, don’t elevate them to the status of humans!

          • I Can See You

            and you know this how?

          • phlushfish

            … I’ve been baptized into the church of Jesus Christ.

          • Dawn

            Bible thumping now. Get a life

          • BettB

            You’re just fanning the fire so you can sit back and watch the flames. Not Christian behavior. Go talk to your minister, you need the love and attention.

          • I Can See You

            and that proves what?

          • phlushfish

            … It doesn’t ‘prove’ anything; but, you asked me how I knew. So I told you….

          • I Can See You

            thank you for confirming that it’s just your opinion.

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            Did they drop you in the font.

          • Sallie Dodd Butters

            No DDMB…on his HEAD!

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            It shows lass. 🙂

          • phlushfish

            Wow! Making fun of the sacraments? That’s not going to go well for you …

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            I will take my chances haha

          • Sallie Dodd Butters

            Oh boy…..

          • Dawn

            Dogs have just as much of a soul as humans. In most cases they have more of a soul and than humans. They are usually better at consoling their owner, aka moms/dad’s, than most humans are too. So screw that. Get a heart man. Maybe we your animal gets shot by an egotistical,overbearing, quick to shoot, piece of crap, you’ll get it. Until then I wish you the best in finding your soul.

          • phlushfish

            That’s emotions. Souls are eternal. Better learn some religion.

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            Acquiring a dog may be the only opportunity a human ever has to choose a relative.

          • Sallie Dodd Butters

            YOU’D better learn some REAL religion…not the dogmatic drivel you’ve been fed…Jesus is above all so you are too? On;y one’s with Souls? Give me a break…

          • Maureen Ward Steele

            alot of humans i know are not as human as dogs i know
            and not as smart. I have 2 cats for gods sake that when i say i am counting to 3 for you to come out of the room they should not be in, when i hit 3 they come out running and so many other things like this as well, alot of humans are the real animals.

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.

          • NightmareSnake

            So, your comments are mostly because of immortal souls, and going to heaven?

            You realize there’s no God, right?

          • phlushfish

            How can I realize that when I know Him and He’s by best friend?

          • NightmareSnake

            Because you are delusional, and your delusion is causing you to be a mean, uncaring person in the name of something that ever existed.

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            Some four legged kids are preferable to two legged ones.

          • I Can See You

            popo abuse their own dogs in “training”

          • Steve Jakobs

            See, you are one of those types, that differentiate between animal and human life..giving more validity and value to a human life…I’m here to tell you, that you are wrong…a life is a life…All living beings are equal…and humans are animals..sorry to break that to you…

          • phlushfish

            … You’re not Pro-Choice, are you?

          • James Latham

            You are a good reason birth control should be free and abortions stay legal.

          • phlushfish

            Sorry you won’t participate in eternity with me.

          • Sallie Dodd Butters

            What a crock of crap!

          • Nicole

            your being a fuckin dick dogs are just like kids you love them like kids and take care of them like kids we are their hands and ears and their voices and they see us as their parents we are responsible to take care of them cause why jyst like a kid they feel safe while being in our hands and with our love so if you dont kive a animal like your own kid then you dont deserve no kids or animals because kids even sees animals like brother and sisters

          • Dawn

            Doesn’t matter. My pets are my children. A cop shoots them a better be ready to get the same back.

          • phlushfish

            You say that now; but, I doubt you really would under the circumstances. If you do, you’re going to jail or your grave. Glad you love your dogs so much; but, they won’t help you, then!

          • BettB

            Don’t be a douche, Troll. Our pets are our loved ones – and cowardly cops are not justified in harming one hair on their bodies unless they are actively attacking.

          • localdog

            Where’s the rulebook that says kids have to be human?

          • 6305lola1444

            phlushfish: Many people, especially those who don’t have kids, consider their pets their “kids”. There is NO difference in the way they care about their pets.

          • godot42

            Why do cops get to define the status of their animals, but the public can’t? Sorry, but a police dog is not an officer. It’s the equivalent of a gun, not a cop. It’s just a dog. If that dog were attacking me, I’d kill it. And no, that’s not murdering an officer, it’s just killing a dog. I hope others will join me in using jury nullification to eliminate the stupid laws that ridiculously claim a police dog is an officer. No, they’re not. Not even slightly.

          • Adam Selene

            No.

          • John DeCorte

            and police dogs are dogs… see the difference.

          • A living being is a living being is a living being. And much of the time, I find other species of animals to be superior in character and intelligence to members of our own speces of animal. And it always seems that the more advanced the person, the less egotistical he is about being a homo-sapiens (i.e. Einstein, Dr. Schweitzer, Gandhi, etc.).

          • Bill Christenson-Jacobs

            To some people, their animals are “their kids”

          • ogam5

            GFY, you goddamned SADIST.

          • William Chad Brown

            So phlushfish can understand how a dog can have a job, but can’t understand how someone can consider a dog their kid? His brain must twist itself into pretzels daily with logic like that.

          • Travis Severson

            You are a fucking idiot and need a bullet just like these cops

          • kymykat

            No I don’t see the difference. People,dogs,cats, are living things. Have feelings , pets are most always innocent or just being a dog but they should be respected not killed for protecting their home… or even just standing in their home. Well I told my family it was going to get like this and everyone wanted to just call me a conspiracy theories nut Case. It appears to me it’s the government and law enforcement who are the nut cases. Too bad they have been given all that power.so they can destroy whom ever they don’t like.

        • James Malagese

          Hahahahahaha

        • doucyet

          I’m aware of the law concerning police dogs. What about my best friend that gets shot down for nothing? Why is that OK?

          • phlushfish

            It certainly is not! Shot down for nothing? I imagine there had to have been some provocation.

          • doucyet

            From the article above: “Klein testified the smaller pit bull was “just standing there” when it was shot and killed”.

            From a new piece: Witness testimony has stated that the dog, named Macho, was calm and friendly while outside and was shot by one of the officers for no reason.

            It happens every day and now a judge has given consent for the megalomaniacs to carry on. Why is that OK?

          • phlushfish

            It’s not . It’s a heinous crime. But, again, put yourself in the cops’s shoes. His 1st directive is to secure order. If there’s an animal there that can’t comply with the officer’s orders, there better be somebody there who can secure them; or …

          • doucyet

            The animals were just standing there doing nothing! Get it?

            Cop: “Well golly, I guess I had better shoot the thing just in case it wants to attack me”. There, I put myself in the cops shoes.

          • phlushfish

            Believe it or not; but, that’s correct! An animal can turn in 1 second; and, the officer doesn’t know that it won’t. Some have even been known to turn on their owners, in 1 second. Get it, now?

          • doucyet

            Could the cop have said to the owner, secure your animal.?

          • phlushfish

            Not in this case ‘cuz the owner was detained/arrested. Too bad no one else was there, huh?

          • doucyet

            In both cases mentioned above as well as many others the officer has plenty of time to ask the owner to secure the animal. Being kind does not fit their megalomania or the agenda so it’s just best to shoot first.

          • phlushfish

            Knowing that, now how are you gonna respond if officers come to your property with a search warrant and your dogs are loose?

          • doucyet

            Hey, how about I put away my dogs so you don’t have to shoot them.

          • phlushfish

            That’s your only option! And, don’t forget, at that moment, officers are yelling, guns are drawn, adrenaline is pumping … no one’s thinking clearly, even the officers! Cops call it ‘full tilt boogie.’ Add to that that this guy’s a heroin dealer, likely on drugs & to act violently. Now, these cops really were blood thirsty, since he recanted his story that the dog lunged; but, don’t do anything that cause cops to come to you!

          • doucyet

            guns are drawn, …. no one’s thinking clearly, even the officers!

            Classic!

          • Vonn KCO

            whoa, whoa, whoa… they said it was someone else slelign drugs out of the residence, NOT the perosn they ahd detained. tahts not who they were after

          • phlushfish

            Yeh, that kind of doesn’t matter. Everyone at the property is suspect; and, at least detained. Yes, the officers should have handled it better, maybe said ‘someone secure these animals under gunpoint or we will;’ but, these cops (at least some them) were bad apples (proven by his recanted lunge statement) and, chose to slaughter innocent animals. Pigs! Sad thing is, some of these ‘officers’ view black people as animals; and, many blacks don’t give them a reason not to!

          • James Latham

            This man is a troll or a very bored person.

          • Vonn KCO

            no his first directive is to secure any reason he can to shoot his fucking gun. How many unarmed ppl get shot because the cop grabs his gun, not his tazer?
            If these police can;t maintain their composure while performing their duties then they need to grow a fucking sack or get a new job. sounds like maybe high stress situations (if you can honestly call half of the police execution vids I’ve seen high stress, lol, when the cop is barking orders or the 90 yr old lady can;t get the church van to stop cuz the cop ran up on her with a gun in her face and then he shot her for whatever reason… not very high stress IMO) just arent these assholes cup-o-tea. I get it, they put their life on the line by performing a dangerous job. but they have to stop pretending that EVERY person they come across is a red alert threat! They wanna hold their hand on their piece for security, I wont argue that. They wanna mace someone if they make a move toward them, sure. If a guy takes off and you can taze him, great. but dont shoot him in the back and then plant the tazer next to him to cover your own ass. (that cop also got off by the way)

          • phlushfish

            You’re highlighting the examples of the few bad apples. Most officers have never discharged their weapon even once in their whole line of duty. The ones that do, don’t do it lightly. The officers that you described need to be taken off the force; or, probably incarcerated. But, whaddya’ gonna do?

          • distachio

            It’s not “a few bad apples!” It’s a system-wide problem. Cops are TRAINED to be terrified of everyone who isn’t a cop. They are *taught* their lives are the only ones that matter and everyone else is either a criminal or a potential one.

          • phlushfish

            No, that’s the Black Lives Matter members, the cartels; and, your basic Democrat.

          • James Latham

            Now we see you are racist also. No surprise there. A deplorable Trumpie, no doubt about it now.

          • James Latham

            Few bad apples? Give me a break. Are you a troll for the police department?

          • distachio

            ” It’s a heinous crime. But, again, put yourself in the cops’s shoes. His 1st directive is to secure order. If there’s an animal there that can’t comply with the officer’s orders, there better be somebody there who can secure them; or …”

            Wait. You said before that a cop’s first directive is to PROTECT HUMANS! Which is it?

            Either you are deliberately trolling, or you are the most intellectually lazy, slavish, statist apologist I’ve ever encountered online.

          • James Latham

            How about letting the owner secure the dog instead of murdering the dog? Is that to much to ask a cop? Cops just can’t wait to pull their guns and shoot something.

          • James Latham

            You really are an ignorant person. Must be a Trump supporter?

        • Gilbert Chavez

          Shut the fuck up phlushfish

        • Vitor Fernandes

          sworn…? by whom ? ’cause the dog sure as hell didn’t do it !!! I think the last thing ANY dog would do willingly would be to join the police…

          • phlushfish

            No, I meant sworn by the police officers into the force. Actually, it’s a very good life for a dog, treated very well. Better than most dog owners, by the way! Much better!

          • Dev

            You have much to say for someone who seems to know so little. As much as I love playing devils advocate in most scenarios, just reading what you’re writing makes me cringe. You’re speaking as if everything you say is 100% fact and true and that you have the answer for everything, when in fact flaunting false intelligence is a sign of insecurity. Please get your life back together child.

          • phlushfish

            OK, Dad!

        • Cherokee

          So using that logic, what punishment should the Cop get whose Police dog “Sworn officer”died cause he left it in a hot car for so many hours?

          • phlushfish

            same as you & me if we left our dog in a hot cat; but, more, since he was a trained officer.

        • MrObvious

          A dog can’t swear anything. Its a fucking animal. The ONLY difference is who owns it!

          • PJ London

            “Its a fucking animal” So are 90% of the steroid fired dingbats with uniforms and guns.

        • Mika

          Article is NOT about harming police dogs — it’s about harming PETS. Read the article, please.

        • MrMega

          “A police dog is a sworn officer. Harming one is same as assault on an officer … felony!”
          Unless YOU happen to be an officer.. had quite a few leave their dogs in the vehicle and roasted them alive this past summer, without repercussions, in the news (“forgot about it” for 7 hours? bull**). So, it isn’t always a felony.. sometimes it is apparently just fine and dandy, like leaving a fully automatic rifle on the trunk, depending on who does it.

          • phlushfish

            Yeh I heard about that 1. I do believe he should be prosecuted the same as me, that cops shouldn’t be held above the law. I guess you’re right. Cops really do look after their own; but, I still would not start shooting at them.

        • Nick

          Which is a ridiculous thing to start with. The dogs are merely tools for the officer.

        • godot42

          Nope. I know cops like to say that, but it’s not an officer. It’s a dog. There is NO WAY I would convict someone accused of shooting a police dog if I were on a jury.

          • phlushfish

            … I don’t think these cases go to jury trial. I’ve been proven wrong on a couple of points during this discussion; but, we can all agree on 1 thing: if you kill a civilian’s dog, there are civil penalties. If you kill a police dog, the penalties are stiffer.

        • Jacob Chernov

          Shooting someone without provocation and who is unarmed is also a felony despite wearing a badge or not. The problem is cops have become pussies, and are no longer cops they are pathetic wastes of tax dollars. I can protect my home better than any police force who is used to drum up money for the private corporations of cities and states. Should any officer enter my home without my permission or the permission of the courts they will face weapons being pointed right back at them. Should they harm an animal under my care they will be treated as an aggressor and face the same treatment. Wearing a badge and uniform does not give you permission to hand out “justice” without consequences.

        • Adam Selene

          Those dogs are victims of animal abuse.

        • Except for the handlers themselves. They torture the K9’s throughout their lives, and have killed them by various means. http://www.stopk9torture.com

        • Michael Grimm

          Only if you get caught.

    • phlushfish

      So, you will die, go to prison; or, take out the life of a sworn officer, over your dog?

      • SobawRF

        Most pet owners would, in their deepest desires, fueled by the hate of the murder of their beloved family member. They are just scared to go to jail for it. Sounds like this guy would not be afraid of the consequences. And I promise you, he is not alone…

        • phlushfish

          Yep … human emotions are one of the devil’s favorite tools!

          • itstherecit

            and a cops heartlessness, stupidity and cowardice are three of the govt’s crutches

          • billdeserthills

            Actually you are the devil’s fav tool

      • grendal113

        In a heartbeat. and so would the entire family.

        • phlushfish

          OK, OK, I understand some (a lot) of people feel like that; but, I must point out: you’re not looking at this through God’s eyes. To him, a human being, even if he’s raping your wife, is infinitely more valuable than a dog. Remember, to him, we’re all just as guilty as that raping pig; and, still forgives you & so expects you to forgive your brother (commands it, actually!). Sux, don’t it? But, the message of the cross is this: die to yourself in this life to live in the next. My kingdom is not of this world; &, it’s worth dying for!!!

          • grendal113

            I guess I will face my maker for judgment. however the bible commands to defend the weak.

          • phlushfish

            We all will. When said that, he was referring to orphaned & widowed humans, not pets!

          • caos901

            Just occured to me that phlushfish is a cop and an animal killer. While I believe there are some cases where it’s a necessary evil it should be one of ur last resorts especially when the scene is secure and there is no sense of urgency or imminent danger. How can you sit there and say that a dog can be a cop but not a family member? Once it’s a cop is it not part of a police family that would do the same thing you want to do if someone killed that family member?

          • phlushfish

            … & he also said if you see your brother sin, doing something you know will result in his eternal damnation; &, do nothing to attempt to stop him, you’re just as guilty as he is & are going down with him!

          • Matthew Colangelo

            Yeah, cuz we humans iz SO MUCH MORE SPESHAL den dem dum aminals! You’re using your religion as a tool for you to make yourself feel special. Dogs, like humans, are living beings with emotions. None of our lives have some sort of intrinsic meaning, because that by definition is the value an intelligent being attaches to something. But if you do decide to arrogantly attach significantly more worth to one single species out of masses of them on the earth, have a better reason than “my sky wizard says so”. Despite how I might sound, I have no real issue with religious people in general, but it is repugnant to claim someone shouldn’t have such a strong attachment to a living being they greatly care for just because the supposed creator of the universe happens to only give a shit about .0000001% of what he is said to have created.

          • Traumer

            A piece of advice: When debating with people on topics that have nothing to do with religion, it would be wise to recognize that not everyone believes in the same God as you. When you change the subject and turn it into something it isn’t, you lose by default.

          • phlushfish

            Thanks! … I may lose that argument; but, if it’s an argument about anything not serving God, it’s not worth arguing about!

          • Traumer

            If that’s true, then why are you on here arguing with just about every comment that has nothing to do with serving God?

          • phlushfish

            Everything you do is either serving God or …

          • billdeserthills

            You don’t know shit about my God you copsucking bastard

      • James Latham

        Damn right I would. Sworn officer? You mean a sworn criminal thugs? Protect and serve my ass. No excuse to keep murdering dogs and people in this country by these SS troops. My dog is my part of my family and I will protect my family or revenge its death if it was shot by some thug in blue.

      • David Daisy May Boldock

        To err is human, to forgive, canine.

        • phlushfish

          LOL!!

    • Lynn Oster

      Are you a Coke dealer… do you have a meth lab in there?

      • James Latham

        Are you really that ignorant? Cops bust the wrong places all the time and kill dogs and shoot kids and adults. You can be driving from point A to B and be arrested because some cop has it in for you and plants drugs, weapons and so on. Take your ignorant comment and shove it where the sun does not shine and do some research.

        • phlushfish

          Keep talking like that James, and it will happen to you!

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            When a dog barks at the moon, then it is religion; but when he barks at strangers, it is patriotism!

        • Lynn Oster

          Wow. One angry snowflake! If you are that parinoid of the police than mabey get off social media. Try moving to a different location when the local police “have it in for “.

    • Dan Bray

      the “doctrine of qualified immunity” is a fabrication of the courts that should be rejected.

    • Shepherd2305

      A dogs life is not worth the life of a human. Cop or not, if you kill someone because they killed your dog you deserve to be in prison. Its a freakin DOG!!!

    • T. Mohr

      I saw the whole thing. Your gun accidently went off when you dropped it at the cops orders. It was all an accident.

      • James Latham

        Actually, my gun went off because it feared for its life.

    • Stephen Jones

      So, what your saying is that you are much worse of a person than these cops. At least that’s what I hear!

    • sunsetbluerose

      The world gets slightly better with each dead dog!

  • edlorens

    This is not the policing that I ever, ever could support…they easily could ask owner to secure dogs or call for the Humane Society assistance. I am extremely upset not just with those cops, but the Court of Appeals ruling and the future implications. Under Obama we turned into the police state…now Trump plans for more cops…Where is that going?!!!

    • phlushfish

      Most cops wouldn’t do that … I’m looking to move to a Mayberry R.F.D., if any still exist. If the worst thing is Otis the drunk, I’m happy!

      • edlorens

        You’re right…most cops would not.

    • phlushfish

      … They couldn’t ask the dog owner in this case since he was restrained.

      • edlorens

        Exactly! But they didn’t. It makes me really mad! I hate animal cruelty and unnecessary killing.

  • James Malagese

    Go ahead and try to kill my dog. I will put a bullet in your head! My dog’s life matters more than any PIG on the force!

    • phlushfish

      So, you will die, go to prison; or, take out the life of a sworn officer over the life of your dog?

      • James Malagese

        Your missing the point. Cops do not have the right to kill pets just because they believe they Fear For Their Lives. If that were the case then how come mailmen don’t carry guns or feel that their lives are being threatened. Cops are cowards. Period. And yes. If a cop killed my dog without a just cause I would do my best to end his life or at least make it not worth living for him.

        • phlushfish

          Mailmen aren’t sworn to protect & serve. Again, you’re sending yourself to your grave or prison. Your choice. I doubt you’d really do it

          • Kalis Coraven

            I question how you would react if an officer walked into your house and shot your child or spouse on the grounds that they couldn’t possibly “clear the room” while the child was in it. This is exactly how it feels to many pet owners when the police come in and shoot their dogs without provocation. Those pets are like members of the family that are brutally murdered for the crime of the cop being too scared to properly deal with them.

            Funny how animal control deals with more wild dogs and out of control animals than the cops without shooting them constantly. You don’t HAVE to shoot an animal to control it.

          • phlushfish

            … I know it ‘feels’ that way to dog owners; but, an officer’s duty is to protect all humans, including themselves. It sux; but, if you’re a pet owner, it’s just one of the thing’s you’re gonna have to put up with …

          • distachio

            You are so mired in the propaganda you’ve been indoctrinated with since kindergarten, it’s terrifying. Wake UP!

            Police are not there to protect YOU. The Supreme Court already ruled on this. LOOK IT UP, for heaven’s sake! The job of the police is to protect government institutions, government property and enforce government laws. Including ridiculous ones.

          • phlushfish

            You’re right. Knowing that; and, knowing how our law officers work (justly & unjustly), I guess it’s the owner’s responsibility to make sure someone’s there who can secure the animals (to the officer’s satisfaction) if they happen to be detained or arrested!

          • distachio

            Oh, my God. Are you just trolling for the LOLs?

            Well, then, you better have an assistant around to muzzle your dog and children and also disabled family members at all times JUST IN CASE some thugs with shiny badges happen to break into your house or car, slam you on the ground, sit on your back and start ransacking the place. Because YOU are restrained, and if your dog so much as whimpers, he’s dead.

            I have rarely seen an apologist so hopelessly, slavishly mired in police- and government-worship that they can spin pure evil into gold, but you just did it. Kudos.

          • phlushfish

            Thanks. Whatever I said, doesn’t change things. If cops come to your house to arrest you; and, your dogs interfere, watch what happens! Or, if your cartel buddies do the same.

          • distachio

            Yes. I KNOW what will happen. That isn’t, and was never, the point.The fact that you or I or any individual can’t change what will HAPPEN, doesn’t change the objective fact that the deliberate killing of an innocent creature, who has done harm to no one and nothing, is IMMORAL. Whether it’s legal or not. Period.

            The fact that the courts are continually and increasingly upholding evil and immoral behavior on the part of government agents, in the name of governmental expediency, is highly disturbing, as it should be to anyone with a shred of decency. The fact that there are so many otherwise decent people, such as yourself, who are not only NOT disturbed, but actually *support* these actions on the part of law enforcement and the courts, is even more so. This country is making a beeline for Nineteen Eighty-Four territory, and you are sitting like a complacent frog in slowly boiling water, blithely unaware that you will be cooked before you know it.

          • John Lagoutaris

            Even going by your whole ‘other animals are mere objects, whereas humans have souls’ logic, you should know that your entire line of thinking is derived from Sir Thomas Aquinas, the most notable religious philosopher, and he held that man should not be cruel to animals not because animals have souls, (as you and Aquinas both believe they do not) but rather because then man will grow cruel toward humans. As you’ve mentioned previously, it’s your duty to tell others when they are thinking about committing sin, or have in fact, committed sin; as such, you should really be writing a letter to these police officers and these judges for they are condoning the very behavior that leads to human-on-human sin.

          • phlushfish

            That makes sense, since a lot of these human killers did start out practicing on animals. Sick!

  • Lita Xú Líng Kelley

    Pigs are nothing but scumbag thug terrorists!! #ThugBlueLine #BlueLivesMurder It takes a real fricken PUSSY to shoot an animal. #GutlessPussies

    • phlushfish

      Wanna live without cops? Move to Mexico …

      • John Lawrence

        Uh, dipshit, you do realize that the cops there take enormous bribes right on the street if you’re not from around there, and if you don’t hand over what’s likely a large amount of your travel money, they’ll take you to a smaller prison cell than what we get here because they’re just as despicable as they are in the States, if not more so, right? Oh wait, you’re retarded, I’m sorry.

        • phlushfish

          Yes, name caller! So, again, if you want to live without cops, move to Mexico! It’s a good start! Cartels run everything! Oh; and, they’ll let you take your dogs with you!

      • JdL

        Wanna live without cops? Move to Mexico …

        What a tiny mind you must have if you think those are the only two choices. Every civilized country but America (I’m not counting 3rd world countries like Mexico) has cops that are about 1% or less as trigger-happy as U.S. cops are.

        • phlushfish

          … Just the closest example …

        • distachio

          He’s made it crystal clear that he has a VERY tiny mind.

  • The Cat’s Vagina

    On the other side of the coin, if a “civilian” so much as looks at a police dog the wrong way, they’re locked up on felony charges!

    • PJ London

      Or calls his police horse ‘Gay’.
      https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-133069384.html
      quote :
      A TIPSY student who called a police horse “gay” was arrested, handcuffed and put in a cell for the night.

      Sam Brown, 21, was then given a pounds 80 fixed penalty fine for causing harassment, alarm or distress.
      End quote
      Apparently the horse sh*t himself.

  • richard philbrick
    • distachio

      OMG, you won! You won the internet!!!! LOL!!!

  • rlibos

    This is insane, but we must remember we are dealing with the police.

  • phlushfish

    So, 1st the cop says the dog ‘lunged’ at him; then, later admitted it only moved a few inches? Proves that cops lie; and, when involving shooting people, too!

    • distachio

      And your point is…? Here you criticize them, yet in your other posts, you defend their heinous acts. Now I KNOW you are a troll.

      And possibly a police officer who loves the fact that he now has the legal authority to kill an innocent animal with impunity, now that I think about it.

  • richard philbrick

    As long as the police continue to murder unarmed civilians and kill our pets at will I will do nothing but cheer when each one of them is gunned down in the street!!!

    When did “Protect and Serve” get changed to “Comply or Die?”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ed4a59050beb6e5c3a261b3080e8243a28497dfff2eeec5160eeede7e89cb3a8.jpg

    • phlushfish

      It’s always been ‘comply or die.’ What? You’re gonna resist someone who has the legal right to kill you? Are you a fool?

      • richard philbrick

        We live in a country where trained police are allowed to panic and kill civilians on impulse, but untrained civilians are expected to stay calm and follow directions while a gun is pointed in their face.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ca4f73bb530385698e96c2cc5c649c8f25da9b08da85f9d0f4cf503456d6a700.jpg

      • distachio

        No one is saying you should resist when guns are pointed at your head. That will get you killed.

        The question is why you DON’T question the morality of a society with a special class of people with the legal right to commit (let’s call these what they actually are) murder, theft, breaking and entering, vandalism, and kidnapping?

        • phlushfish

          You’re right. A few bad cops spoil the reputation for them all; and, we did originally start the gun rights ‘cuz the colonists British cops were abusing their power. But, without our cops, the way they are now, it would be like Mexico with the cartels, or worse, like ISIS or Boko Haram. There, they DO break into your house, seize your children, property, rape your wife, etc. And, you call a cop there, what happens?

          • distachio

            Ok. I tried. I really did.

            I’m done.

          • David Daisy May Boldock

            We never abuse our power clod.

    • Killed By Police 2013 – 2014 – 2015 – 2016 (1122) As of December 22, 2016 this year alone.

      The most accurate, most comprehensive and always up-to-date list of people killed by U.S. enforcement officers. Est. May 1, 2013

      http://killedbypolice.net/

      June 16, 2016 Supreme Court Ruling: Police Have No Duty to Protect the General Public

      However, did you know that the government, and specifically law enforcement, does not have any duty to protect the general public? Based on the headline and this information, you might assume this is a new, landmark decision. However, it has long been the court’s stance that, essentially, the American people are responsible for taking case of their own personal safety.

      http://tribunist.com/news/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/

  • SobawRF

    Those cops and every judge involved would not know a safe day in their lives as long as I was still a free man! There is nothing that would save them from my wrath! And I would not have waited until after some lawsuit to start! Pets are family, and feel SO SORRY for anyone who loses one to senselessness like this!

  • Seth Scholz

    This law’s a great idea
    So many people will be angry that it’ll guarantee at least one corrupt cop getting killed
    In that situation I’d be walking into the courtroom with a picture of my dog on my shirt and smile at his family.

    You take one of mine, I take one of yours.

    • midnightrider35000

      You should never threaten or telegraph your intentions. Just pick a time and place and do it.

  • David Jackson

    hmm interesting I would argue that “doctrine of qualified immunity” does NOT apply as the grant of immunity is not available as their actions violated the individuals federal constitutions’ Due Process Clause by deprivation of property ( the dog) without the required due process. (Section 1 Fourteenth Amendment to the United State Constitution)

  • JdL

    When official “Justice” gives government criminals a pass time after time, then inevitably genuine justice will be had by other means.

  • Christopher Burrell

    So why has the US government admitted that police officers are brainless gutless wimps? It seems like a dumb thing to do, but that’s just my opinion.

  • Sean Crampton

    You fucking kill my dog, your life will become forfeit. It’s the same as killing my own child.

  • Lexington and Concord2016

    What’s next killing infants for crawling and babbling. Out of control militarized police have caused the Crack in which our proud nation is so polarized we are no longer using common sense in our discussions with each ither. Unrealistic amounts of civil rights disregard. 1st 2nd 3rd(I count militarized law enforcement a standing army) 4th articles of the bill of rights. The first 1 “amendments” of the Constitution laws if the government, such as the others. No they are given by God to you upon your arrival into this world

    • phlushfish

      The only thing I’ve seen like that so far is when those cops threw a flash grenade in an apt. that landed in a baby’s crib. Of course, then there’s the slaughter of the innocents, the cartels, ISIS, Iran … Saudi Arabia. I guess we’re blessed to live in the U.S. … unless you happened to be aborted!

      • distachio

        ENOUGH. That was clearly a troll move. We’re not discussing abortion here.

  • Instead of taking crap, why not write your State Legislators and let them know how you want them to represent you. If they got 1/10000 of the words typed on these boards, the country would change.

  • MeecheMill

    These rotten judges need to be kicked off the bench – they are apparently animal haters or they would never agree to this horrible thing – any dog will bark when a stranger enters the home – especially police breaking in and these rotten judges gave the cops permission to shoot these poor dogs who are just protecting their owners! this is 100% wrong

  • May 1, 2015 How History Becomes Propaganda (by Paul Rosenberg)

    https://youtu.be/hBo5Vev8Xcs

  • Lefty Blitzer

    Judges Moore, Clay and Hood, along with the cops Case, Klein and Young, should all be dragged into the street and exterminated like the worthless, piece-of-shit vermin they are.

  • Gomma

    Here’s to hoping any one of these bastards who walk into someone’s home and murder their beloved pets gets the same medicine turned right back on them!!

  • Gilbert Chavez

    Law enforcement and the court’s judges are so tyrannical and anti-American citizen and it seems like we can’t do anything about it.

  • Gilbert Chavez

    So now the police can commit animal abuse with impunity, our country is going down the toilet, which is where piece of crap phlushfish should go as well.

  • John

    this is bullshit.

  • Vitor Fernandes

    Y’all need to open your eyes and get your heads out of your “free” asses !! You live in one of the worst dictatorships in the world and you talk of freedom ? Where is the freedom in america ?

  • billdeserthills

    I can’t for the life of me figure out why police feel the need to shoot so many beloved pets,
    maybe they need a seminar from the US Mail delivery folks, they don’t seem to have much trouble
    and they are around those same pets everyday in some cases

  • Stuart McDonald

    Unless Dog Lives Matter, Cop Lives Don’t Matter.

  • TheRewd

    Shoot my dog? I’ll put a bullet in your head on the spot and gladly suffer the consequences. No lie.

  • Junebug

    I hope everybody starts to realize that Phlushfish is a millennial troll trying to bait you! I see you, kid!

    • distachio

      I just figured it out. I’m ashamed that it took me so long.

  • Blazejack Ryan Dugent

    I hate when people hurt a dog or cat like what the fuck is wrong with society today! clearly people have lost their minds. I think pet lives matter more than violent people in general.

  • Jim Reitz

    Just goes to show if a person has a badge and a gun they can do whatever they want. I will never trust or rely on a pig that kills an animal that does not pose a threat. As far as I am concerned all cops suck.

  • James Li

    I already despise the police, and reading this just disgusts me even more.

  • Kris S

    And police wonder why they are hated and feared. Sickening abuse of position.

  • Douglas Cowdrick

    Sadly recently someone did shot a cop (2013 I think?) and kill him over threatening his dogs and him. Jury convicted him of first degree murder.

  • Tina Braun

    sound illegal to me..

  • Drew Brenneman

    Those who are supposed to Protect and Serve the American citizens (and I am including family pets) are FAILING at that duty. Killing a family pet is absolutely wrong and I would hope that the officer’s morals would kick in and not fire on family pets. Personally, if the officers do fire, they are no better than common murderers on the streets and deserve an extremely harsh punishment.

  • patriot156

    No it was because they were pit bulls is why they were killed. most any other dog they may not have killed, but cops have a war on pit bulls Warning FYI!

  • Jihad

    Save a dog, execute a cop!

  • Chris Shepherd

    Michigan Court of Appeals. Get in touch with Lee Gonzales.

  • Lois May

    It is common sense that a dog will bark and sometimes jump around in excitement. These cops and in some cases, piglets, should be required to study dog behavior and body language for 6 months then passing the course before getting their badge. Dogs only act what is natural to them. To shoot one just because of innocent behavior is utterly ridiculous and wrong. That would be equal to me shooting one of the cops because they put on a uniform for the day.
    Why not give someone a chance to leash the dogs? They think they are above the law. Once the uniform goes on, they assume they are untouchable and that is where they are wrong.
    I have nothing against cops but they are giving their selves a bad name. Until they change their ways, nothing will change.

  • Belinda Lee Emmett

    If they were so afraid of the dogs why didn’t they call animal control to remove them from the property so they could continue their work? Pathetic!

    “Compassion for animals is intimately associated with goodness of
    character, and it may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to
    animals cannot be a good man.”Arthur Schopenhauer,

    The Basis of Morality

  • Sattar Solomon

    Check the Animal cruelty prevention legislation, that legislation would not grant them immunity unless they took certain precautions, which these redneck faggots never bother with !!

  • CT

    While I don’t understand why animal control couldn’t be called in, I do have a question: Did the cops find what they were looking for?

    If so, knowingly harboring a criminal or criminal activity means ‘you takes your chances’. The real question is: Did ‘Mark’ know? If he did, he is equally to blame for this atrocity.

  • Steve Rusk

    They can shoot anybody or anything they want and the courts will protect them, no matter how heinous the act.

  • David Daisy May Boldock

    Poor state of affairs that cops are resorting to this. Makes you wonder what empathy they have if any for the human animal. They are not fit for purpose and should be outlawed onto a dole queue.

  • MacUndecided

    And so the pressure and alienation on both sides increases. The inevitable outcome of this trajectory can only be civil war. I suspect that civil war is exactly what the courts and other social engineers are trying to achieve in all of this. No other explanation hangs together.

  • Barbara Lyons

    Is there anything that man/woman or beast can do or not do that would be a NO NO for police murder???

  • Cassandra Jensen

    I would be dead or in jail….shoot my dog…O HELL NO…

  • Sherif El Kadi

    some cops are now fair game…and rightfully so (y)

  • Midniterider

    To arbitrarily kill two dogs like that,regardless of breed,is a pile.The correct procedure would have been to call animal control to do that,control them and then execute their search warrant.

  • Mike Egan

    To any police who think this gives you the excuse to do this again: you harm innocent animals, you open yourself up to retaliation from justifiably angry citizens, who have decided you DON’T represent “We the people”, and you and the “courts” will be damned. Remember, you only have the authority and power the people grant. You, the state and the federal government better re-read the declaration of independence and the constitution of the united states. You anger a righteous man, and he (or she) will take action. Good luck on getting any witnesses or help on following up the next “police officer shot” investigation. Your family may mourn you, but they will be in the minority. Think seriously on how you want to be remembered. Don’t become an enemy of the community you were hired to “protect and serve”. It’s not a good legacy. I know the bad apples are in the minority, but you know what they say about it only taking one to spoil the whole barrel. Just do the right thing, and save everyone a world of hurt.

  • Eddie Krump

    ANYONE!! who shoots my animals on my own property will be shot themselves!

  • Ivester Alan

    My dogs are my kids you kill them you will meet the same faith or worse

  • Eysil Vondresi Adreas

    Dude fuck. That. You draw on my fucking dog, my family, who didnt do shit to you. I fucking make you beg for Satan’s mother fucking dick in your ass. The oath was to serve and protect, to attack unprovoked is malicious and we as…oh…I dont fucking know…..THE People…the people who decide to become slaves to society, should respond to it as such. Either fucking do something or get out of the way. Surge sursus, Peon.

  • Jara Matthews

    PROBLEM SOLVED!
    Pass a law that animal service must accompany police on all warrants to remove animals safely if needbe.
    And it creates jobs.

    The details of this case convey that kind of assholes these cops are. They murdered the animals forcthe same reason they busted down the door instead of using a key. Because theyre bullies that get off on hurting people. Drugs arent bad. Im fact, no man has the right to dictate what another man can or cannot ingest. The illegality of drugs is injustice. These men are not heros. Theyre pure evil. Bullies who are abovecthe law and can now murder your pets legally to fuck with you.

  • Jimmy D

    I’ve always had a strong feeling that if there is an “after life”, that we’ll be judged more for how we treated the small, the weak and the creatures put in our care than for what we wore while speaking specific words on a specific day while sitting in a specific building. I hope Satan is preparing these cop’s pineapples suppositories.

  • lernin

    Judge Jury and executioner now. Pretty soon the Jewdicial courts will allow police to execute anything they want.

    • Nunya Biznatch

      As long as they steal the victim’s wallet before the meat wagon arrives, it’s all good.

  • I’ve owned pups my whole 62 years and am on the cops side in this case. The better focus would be on why is the dope being sold from that home??? The dogs would all be alive were that not the case so go cry up someone else’s leg you morons…

    • Nunya Biznatch

      You sound more like one of those degenerates who imprison starving hunting dogs, for use and abuse in the field.

      Your opinion don’t count!

  • John Kocur

    We are not being given the entire story, and what is presented is strictly one-sided, by using the term “sadistic” to describe the police. The plaintiff asserted that he apprised the officers he had a key. No evidence was presented to contend he ever offered to let the officers in, or to tie the dogs up. If he did, then this was clearly a miscarriage of justice. If he did not, one would have to question why he was uncooperative with the police if he had nothing to hide. This is one of many arguments for 100% use of bodycams by police, with the recording device sealed against manipulation.

  • Laurette Giardino

    We need to start demanding that they change the way they train our police. They are trained to shot first ask questions later. We need to teach them to use non lethal methods first as many other countries do. That lethal is the last resort. Teach them to properly handle pets and alternate ways to remove or restrain pets. To properly handle mentally people.
    Training on racism, sexism, homophobia, and working with all minorities.
    Then to take the cops out of the patrol car and to walk the beat get to know the people in the community and they get to know them. This will start to open up channels of communication and maybe help cut back on crime.
    The local precincts working with local organizations.
    The most important having a civilian review board to do investigate all shootings, corruption and unprofessional behavior of officers.
    In a police shooting an independent non partisan investigation leaving the DA Office out of it for they work hand & hand with the police.
    The hardest part is convincing the police to have a door in the blue wall to throw out the garbage. Plus the police union to stop protecting bad cops by protecting them they are endangering the good cops who may have to work with them or be injured as they were in the Texas shooting.
    We need to elect state representative that are not gun ho cops no matter what. We need to elect people that support the above changes only then will we see things changing and also DA & Judges.

  • Lynette R. Trudeau

    They had murder these dogs plain and simple. So in my book they had dishonor the Badge and are murders!!!

  • Sounds like whatever works for dogs will work for pigs just as well. If the pig oinks… if the pig squeals… if the pig has a gun… Hey, don’t I have a right to defend myself against dangerous pigs?

    • Nunya Biznatch

      Indeed, you do! A duty, even!

  • David Daisy May Boldock

    Man is troubled by what might be called the Dog Wish, a strange and involved compulsion to be as happy and carefree as a dog.

  • Richard

    I understand both sides of this conversation that I have seen on this post. I have worked in security and have felt that I needed to protect myself from people’s pets. I also have pets of my own that I love and see as part of my family. First, the story above if the people were not involved with criminals they would not have had to worry about their pets in the first place. Second, a human life is always going to be more valuable than a pets life because think of it this way if your house is burning and your choice is to save your children or your pets which would you save. The answer is obvious you would save your children. Police deal with the lowest and worst side of our society. We should be defending them not the douchebag criminals that they protect us from.

    • Nunya Biznatch

      Look here, statist retard…

      First, DUE PROCESS is the American Way, not state-sanctioned vigilantism.

      Second, my vegetable garden has more value to me than the lives of murderous tyrants who are too corrupt to do their job RIGHTEOUSLY, and too cowardly to suffer a wound. This is 99.99995553% of the exclusive LEO “community.” FTP!

      I have guns and protect my OWN. We should be arresting them for betraying their oaths and not assuming that every person they strong-arm is a “douchebag criminal” without first adjudicating them guilty, as a jury of their peers.

      • Richard

        The fact that you are resorting to name calling shows your lack of education. The police do their jobs and put their lives on the line to protect the people of the United States. They deserve respect for the job they do. I have met a few prick cops but they are in the minority most work hard and care for those whom they protect. Maybe take some time to get to know some actual cops before deciding that they are overstepping in some way. The problem with ignorant people is they believe that they should be allowed to do what they want and not follow the law.

        • Nunya Biznatch

          No. The fact that I am resorting to name calling shows my lack of respect for you and your federally programmed statist opinions.

          The police serve corrupt politicians and enforce unconstitutional “laws” just because they are “on the books.”

          FTP and FTW, you servile coward!

          p.s. ANYONE who will use anything you say against you in a court of corruption is NOT a friend or hero. They ONLY serve to gain the power to abuse others with impunity.

          p.p.s. I was a bar-back at a LEO dive for years and knew hundreds. They were ALL degenerate drunks who DUI every night they patronized the joint. Cops are the worst criminals of them all because they are NEVER held accountable [because of the hero-worship of anti-Americans like yourself]. Kill ’em all and let God sort them out.

          Live FREE or kill ANYONE who tries to stop you = The American Way

  • localdog

    Kill my dog, you die, simple as that. Cop or not, makes no difference, you’re a human first.

  • Stephen

    What’s wrong with allowing the owner or tenant to unlock the door with a key and have the owner take the dog to a secure area like a vehicle?

    • Nunya Biznatch

      Because they [all the king’s men] have to assert their unjust “authority” and “superiority” over you and the rest of the serfs who toil to plow the U.S. plantation and pay their taxes.

  • John E. Markowitz

    That is why we civilians have to start fighting back to them cops to make sure they don’t brutalize the streets of America anymore instead of posting signs on the ground by the roads of America supporting the police! Huh. If we don’t fight back, it will get real ugly, dark and more oppressed by the law enforcement even further! Keep in mind… They can kill any kind of animals of any sizes!

    • Nunya Biznatch

      Nazi Germany [as well as ISIS Germany] would be but a figment of the imagination if the German people would have been liberty-minded instead of servile eunuchs who bow to their masters.

      People get the government they deserve!

      Don’t LIKE it? OVERTHROW it!

  • Patricia Rush Walsh

    First of all if a police office has the right training they know how to deal with dogs without killing them and there are a lot of police that are good. The police that kill dogs are probably the ones that shot incentive people too, those are the one who have no training just have a badge and let that power go to their head (stupid )

  • People keeping a dog down in the basement need to be taken to task, too. I am basically sick of people, overall. And if any decent person is interested in how the police treat their own K9’s, check out http://www.stopk9torture.com

    • Nunya Biznatch

      Wolves in sheeps’ clothing, one and all.

      FTP!

  • godot42

    It’s time for jury nullification of police immunity laws. We as the public don’t have to decide a case based on statutory laws. As a jury, we can make any decision we want, no matter what the prosecutor or defense lawyers might say to the contrary. Police should not be shielded by immunity laws. They need to be prosecuted for crimes when they break the law. Being in a difficult situation or under stress or tension from the job is no excuse to let cops walk free when they do something an average citizen would be arrested for. The cop should be arrested too. Jury nullification, folks. It’s the way to change things.

  • harry

    i seen videos of officers shoot chained to 9lb dogs. animal cruelty.

  • lynnk

    THEN I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SHOOT THE OFFICERS ASS AND THE JUGDES ALSO ! ! ! ! ! ! !

  • Sol Rom

    just for doing their job you idiots going to kill them?? hope a few dogs bite you in the rear & can NOT do anything!!

  • Adam Selene

    Two problems with this scenario: One, I have TWO dogs; shoot one the other one will tear your throat out. Two, my dogs are family, execute a family member, the entire family will defend that member WITH DEADLY FORCE, *period*.

  • Ted_Zee_Man

    TO EVERY PERSON WHO READS THIS ARTICLE. PLEASE CONTACT EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND SEE IF YOU CAN HAVE YOUR DOG SWORN IN AS A DEPUTY POLICE DOG, OR AS A VOLUNTEER POLICE DOG. THEN IT WOULD BE A CRIME FOR THE POLICE TO KILL A FELLOW POLICE OFFICER.
    YOU MAYBE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING BY HAVING A JUSTICE OF THE PEACE OR A JUDGE SWEAR YOUR DOG IN AS A POLICE DOG.
    MAKE SURE YOUR DOG WEARS A BADGE OR IDENTIFICATION.

  • Nunya Biznatch

    “When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.” — Thomas Jefferson
    “Know your enemy.” — Sun Tzu
    “Kill them all. God will know His own.” — Pope Innocent III

    Live Free or Die Trying – Just like the III% did [and do]!

  • Nunya Biznatch

    Shoot MY loved-ones under ANY circumstances and your suffering will be legendary… Even in Hell!

    p.s. Your “oath” was to uphold and defend the Constitution, NOT to “be safe” or to “make it home at night.”

  • Nunya Biznatch
  • Ronald Olson

    The BCPD are corrupt. When Battle Creek the TV show came on I thought that they’d cover the sleaziness that is the Flake City cops.

  • JRT256

    I am not clear on what some of the commenters are arguing about. There are laws against animal cruelty. Shooting someone’s pet is a felony in many (most or all?) states. Are the police above this law just as they appear to be above the laws against assault and battery?

  • slicerdicer

    Well, so much for public relations. Wonder what other noisy and loud living creations would be consider justifiable for murder.

  • William P Maher

    Time to line up the Supreme court alongside of the cops IE for the firing squad to execute they.

  • Eli Medina

    Dogs dont matter, the owners who are careless are what matters, shoot them.

  • Autumn Rain

    How can we change this evil law?

  • metulburr

    This is total BS and i dont even own a dog.

  • Justice

    I do not use drugs nor do the police have any reason to enter my home. I have dogs inside and outside. If a cop makes a mistake and comes to my home and kills one of my dogs because it barks (that is what dogs do because they cannot talk) I will defend my dogs and kill who ever brings it harm. I am a law abiding citizen and supported the police because I believe in the law. Now not only can they shoot you for breathing they can kill your pets just for being there. I have read where they shoot pets quit often. As of now, because of this law, I will no longer support them. I now have my own law and will do the same as the police, if they move kill them! I am not refering to animals though!!!

  • Cheryl Karr

    I have people debating that this never happens and when it does it’s the owner of the dogs fault. Crazy people don’t think about bullets flying in a home is okay! No one can assume!

  • kbmiller

    The appellate court is corrupt and biased. They are wrong and this case is not over by far. The precedence of the court is bullshit. The appellate court is full of idiots.

  • Dona Swan Ayre

    Police are bullies ,terrorists, outlaws and murderers. Not to mention just plain asses !

  • Adam smith

    Fuck your dogs. They’re useless,filthy disgusting wastes of space. I’d kill every last noisy cunt of a dog if I could. Worst decision made by civilisation to keep these flea bags as pets. Destroy them all

  • bd2222

    This is absolute bullshit and needs to STOP now!!!

  • Stephen Jones

    Well, you increase your odds of keeping your dogs alive if you don’t deal hard drugs out of your house! Just sayin’. Not on the side of the cops; just pointing out that it’s not a good idea to deal drugs; YOU increase the risk of bad things happening.