A tragedy in Florida unfolded Wednesday afternoon when a psychotic former student terrorized a high school and the nation as he walked into the school and began shooting and killing students. The terrorist shooter killed 17 people.

It is no surprise that the hashtag #GunReformNow is already trending on Twitter as politicians and advocacy groups alike—like every time before—begin milking this tragedy for their political agenda.

Sadly, most people who call for gun control to realize what that actually means—only the government has the guns.

Every time a lunatic, who is usually on some form mind-altering pharmaceutical, goes on a shooting rampage, the do-gooders in Washington, with the aid of their citizen flocks, take to the TV and the internet to call for disarming the American people.

The citizens who call for themselves and their neighbors to be disarmed, likely think no deeper than the shallow speeches given by the political blowhards, designed to appeal to emotion only. They do not think of what happens during and after the government attempts to remove guns from society. They also completely ignore the fact that criminals do not obey laws and making guns illegal would have zero effect on criminals possessing guns.

In the perfect statist world in which only the government has guns, we’re told that crime rates would plummet, people wouldn’t be murdered, gun violence would be brought to its knees, and a disarmed heaven on Earth would ensue. But how effective would disarming the citizens actually be at preventing gun violence, while at the same time keeping guns in the hands of government?

One simple way to determine the outcome would be to compare mass shootings in America with those killed by police. It is entirely too easy to compare all senseless murders carried out by the state to those carried out by citizens, so we will zoom in with a microscope.

However, just as a point of reference, in the 20th Century alonegovernments were responsible for 260,000,000 deaths worldwide. That number is greater than all deaths from illicit drug use, STD’s, Homicides, and Traffic Accidents — combined.

Now, on to the micro-comparison.

According to a comprehensive database of all American mass shootings that have taken place since 1982, constructed by Mother Jones, there have been exactly 816 deaths attributed to mass shootings that have taken place on American soil.

As Mother Jones notes, in their database, they exclude shootings stemming from more conventional crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. Other news outlets and researchers have published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings may be useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at the distinct phenomenon of mass shootings—from the firearms used to mental health factors and the growing copycat problem.

If we were to compare the 816 citizens killed in mass shootings to citizens killed by police in the same time frame, the comparison would be off the charts. So, for the sake of simplicity, we will compare all of the mass shooting deaths in the last 35 years, to the number of citizens killed by police since the beginning of last year.

Already, in 2018, American police have killed 153 people. When we add that to 1,189 people killed by police in 2017, that number is 1,342. This number is set to increase by one, on average, every 8 hours. 

When comparing the total number of mass shootings over the last 35 years to just the last 14 months of police killings the ratio is 1.6 to 1, citizens killed by cops vs. citizens killed in mass shootings. That is a massive difference.

The comparison is staggering and should shock the conscience. But to truly get a perspective, lets go back three years and compare all of the citizens killed by cops since the beginning of 2015 to the number of mass shooting deaths.

Since 2015, cops in America have killed 3,733 citizens. 

In a time period that is less than one-tenth the amount of time it took mass shooters to kill 816 people, cops have killed nearly 5 times as many citizens.

As the blowhards spew their nonsense about grabbing guns from law-abiding citizens and those in government demand action, all of these people conveniently ignore the giant pink elephant in the living room — cops in America are killing citizens at an alarming rate!

Ironically enough, those calling for taking guns from citizens are often times the ones most critical of police killings. How, exactly, they rationalize disarming the citizens and having only police, who kill far more people than gun owners, be the sole possessors of guns, is a mystery.

Indeed, Radley Balko sums up the mental gymnastics of both parties perfectly in regard to the distorted realities held as “truth.”

In the United States, the overall homicide rate is 4.9 per 100,000 among the citizens.

Thanks to independent watchdog groups like, we have a total number of citizens killed by police. As noted above, last year, police killed 1,189 citizens. Given that America has roughly 765,000 sworn police officers, that means the police-against-citizen kill rate is more than 145 per 100,000.

The police kill rate is nearly 30 times that of the average citizen, yet somehow people still call for disarming citizens and say nothing about the police. And no, the citizens are not becoming more violent. In fact, humanity is at its safest time in history—ever—and, in spite of the lunatic terrorists shooting up public places, violent crimes as well as all crime continues to drop, significantly.


The next time your friends try to tell you that citizens should be disarmed, tell them what that really means; they only want government, who has a history of racism and violence, who kill indiscriminately, with zero accountability, and far more often, to be the ones with guns.

Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world. Agorist is also the Editor at Large at the Free Thought Project. Follow @MattAgorist on Twitter, Steemit, and now on Facebook.


  1. The fabricated, & irrational, fear of guns is incredibly deep, in the minds of most, thanks to over a century of highly effective fear-based propaganda, (believed it once, myself), that springs up automatically every time, a gun related tragedy occurs, sometimes people will ‘pass judgement’ on situations where guns were merely present, (like a single firearm, stored elsewhere)…all of which is ironically, & deliberately tragic, when the police seem to have become the primary purveyors, of general violence…

  2. 1,189 American Citizens killed by USA Police in 2017

    153 ƲS∆ Citizens already killed in 2018 by USA Police as of 02/15/2018
    (((10,545))) ƲS∆ Citizens killed by Police since 09/11/2001 to 02/15/2018

    “In this Day In Age” one is [[[-✻-58-✻-]]] times more likely to be killed by a Blue “ᏐSᏐS” Police Officer than an actual “All Wars Are Banker Wars” created boogeyman terrorist.

    Much Lower then ƲS∆ Civilians.
    A total of 1,512 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty during the past 10 years, an average of one death every 63 hours or 151 per year. There were 143 law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in 2016. Since 9/11/2001, 10,545 civilian deaths to their approximate 2550 police officer deaths. See above for calculating the math.

    Actually only around 600 police officers have been murdered… the rest of those numbers are traffic accidents, heart attacks, suicides etc. Fewer cops were shot and or killed last year than in any other year in the last 50 years. The “War On Cops” is pure psychological PROPAGANDA meant to artificially prop up a tyrannical authoritative command and control civil rights violating ℙ☉Ꮭϊ∈ SϯαϮ∈ iƞ ℤΘᎶ ∆M∃ЯᏐK∆.

    Search: Bizarre “Masonic Police Force” Uncovered in Los Angeles

  3. Visit me in Mexico. There, what is called ‘Trigger Justice’. The police only investigate one in one hundred and fifty homicides. It is a very ancient culture and has functioned this way for centuries. Quite bloody’ I admit, but it gets the job done. They tried to outlaw guns there but it did not work either. The streets are far safer as well as homes and business. The thugs are forced ‘for their own safety’ to form gangs and to go underground. This is where military police function best. They go in and kill em all, while leaving the civilians alone. Lone wolf thugs don’t last very long. Everyone on both sides of the Law and Order line will open fire on them.Since the U.S. Deep State Authoritarians started paying off the Mexican law enforcement and greedy corrupt politicians by instigating the war on marijuana , in excess of ten thousand state and federal law enforcement personnel have been shot dead. Well over fifty Mayors and a hilarious number of politicians.The ones shot dead outright were the lucky ones. After nine of the thirty-two Federal Prosecutors were shot dead the remainder resigned. There is far more order and far less law. The U.S. should outlaw (for the citizen) firearms as well. This takes them out of the hands of most ‘but not all’ of those that should not have them and into the hands of the many that know how to correctly use them. Outlawing guns is a ‘win win’.

    • Hahaha…. Criminals that have guns usually ‘know how to use them’. So especially do retired military vets. No, we don’t want to import corrupt Mexican law enforcement and criminality…where also it seems everyone in society needs a ‘tip’ (bribe) before they do their job correctly. As it is, I know several of my friends and neighbors from the past that actually stopped crimes in their tracks (one was being burglarized , by being armed and apprehending said burgler…holding him at gunpoint for the police..) Also our women , armed have better safety than say being attacked or raped and then calling police after. Again, no thank you. .

      • I have read your reply several times and from different view points. I am finally convinced that you lack the intelligence ‘or information’ to grasp what I am saying. There is some merit to your argument but you fail to see my point. I can derive several valid points from yours but you missed the mark. You seem so regimented and convinced of your own inaccurate evaluations that it is useless to try. Yes I prefer a POLICE FREE SOCIETY. And YES there alternatives to a police state.They ‘the police’ are all but worthless anyway. Other country’s are opting for private security forces. We would all benefit if the law enforcement were to be privatized. Perhaps things are that way in your little tenth grade world but not so out here in the real one. Crime is exported not imported. When in Mazatlan Mx. sixty-six police with blemished records were fired. One year later crime was down ninety-five percent. And not just Mexico I have dwelled in several other countries as well and not just down ‘on the farm’ in Hooterville and had the time to review and evaluate the nuances and methods of various law enforcement and military regimes both actual and pseudo. One alternative but valid conclusion is that you keep the guns and get rid of the police. I would except that also. Still it is far better to remove firearms from the general public. If the police ‘who are trained’ can not show enough responsibility for gun use what makes you think that someone untrained is better qualified, Sooner or later the GUNS MUST GO.

  4. Yeah, great comparison! Let’s compare mass shootings, where the victims are always innocent, and compare them with police shootings, where most of the time, the shootings are justified and the subject was an armed criminal. Yes, let’s shock that conscience! But don’t compare all of the gangland shootings that would be around 45,000 or so! Yes, let’s disarm the police, because clearly those gangbangers will not have guns. Where do you find retarded monkeys that can type these articles?

    • But see, that’s not the case at all.
      If you just pay a little attention, plenty of innocent people are killed by cops, and even a lot of the criminals (as determined by our corrupt laws, see the drug war for instance) don’t deserve a bullet for society screwing them over. Cops go for the kill when it’s unnecessary. They literally aren’t trained to handle stressful crisis situations and in turn elevate them.
      They’re trained not to question orders from day one and are harshly punished when they refuse to co-operate in killing scared, agitated people (this site reported on such a story just a few days ago).

      And that’s not even talking about how cops contribute to and reinforce the cycle of violence in gang areas for example

      Maybe some people want to get rid of cops, I don’t. What we do need to do is start entirely fresh, with new people, new ideas, new operations, because the current police force in this country is irrevocably broken. Society and culture need to change on a massive scale, and it won’t if the gatekeepers stay the same.

      • Good luck finding anyone not in law enforcement that would want the job now.

        And the report on the cop that refused to shoot the unstable guy-yeah, there’s a lot more to that story. Weirton is not far from me. By all accounts, Mader was an incompetent cop that was being investigated for a bunch of other issues and this was the final one. I disagree with the other officer showing up and shooting so quickly, but according to that officer, Mader was cowering in a corner when he showed up. I fully support cops that are willing to take a big risk and not pull the trigger, but I have been told nothing but bad things about that guy from people that know him.

  5. The first question in my mind is how many of those killed by the cops were unarmed, innocents versus those killed by cops in purely self-defense. I’d love to see those numbers too.

    By the way, I’m not claiming to be for or against cops. I’m just asking the question so I can see a true comparison.


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