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Insane Clown Posse Fans Labeled and Classified as Criminal Organization by FBI

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Picture by Sherri Fadil

Montgomery, Ala. – A site which spoofed the New York Times claimed that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) announced that extreme fans of the rap group Insane Clown Posse, known as ‘Juggalos’, would be added as a recognized hate group in 17 states.

A Juggalo (male) or Juggalette (female) is the label given to fans of the rap group Insane Clown Posse, commonly referred to as ICP.

While the SPLC never actually called ICP fans a hate group, the are classified as a gang by the FBI.

As ridiculous as it sounds, the Juggalos were classified by the FBI in 2011 as a criminal organization. ICP sued the FBI regarding the classification but lost the lawsuit. It must be noted that no organized crime specialists we spoke with, relayed to the Free Thought Project the potential threat of Juggalo violence as being a priority in their city.

According to the FBI’s website:

The Juggalos, a loosely-organized hybrid gang, are rapidly expanding into many US communities. Although recognized as a gang in only four states, many Juggalos subsets exhibit gang-like behavior and engage in criminal activity and violence. Law enforcement officials in at least 21 states have identified criminal Juggalo sub-sets, according to NGIC reporting.e

  • NGIC reporting indicates that Juggalo gangs are expanding in New Mexico primarily because they are attracted to the tribal and cultural traditions of the Native Americans residing nearby.

Most crimes committed by Juggalos are sporadic, disorganized, individualistic, and often involve simple assault, personal drug use and possession, petty theft, and vandalism. However, open source reporting suggests that a small number of Juggalos are forming more organized subsets and engaging in more gang-like criminal activity, such as felony assaults, thefts, robberies, and drug sales. Social networking websites are a popular conveyance for Juggalo sub-culture to communicate and expand.

By this same logic of grouping an entire fanbase into a gang classification, one could argue that since some people commit violence with a New York Giants jersey on, that all Giants fans are a gang.

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This is the level of absurdity to which our government has risen. They have criminalized an entire fan base with a blanket label over anyone displaying typical rabid fanatic behavior… hence the term fan, short for fanatic!

The implication that any of the aforementioned features have anything to do with gang/organized crime membership or being part of a hate group is patently ludicrous!

If someone engages in illegal behavior, perhaps they deserve to be held accountable for that action. The idea that we can judge and classify a group of people, based on a few arbitrary stylistic details, is completely unjust and should be shunned societally.

When we start criminalizing entire groups of musical fans, rather than identify and punish specific deserving individuals, we tread dangerously close to a fascist state.

UPDATE:

This article has been updated to reflect the fake NY Times article on the SPLC.


Jay Syrmopoulos is an investigative journalist, freethinker, researcher, and ardent opponent of authoritarianism. He is currently a graduate student at University of Denver pursuing a masters in Global Affairs. Jay’s work has previously been published on BenSwann.com and WeAreChange.org. You can follow him on Twitter @sirmetropolis, on Facebook at Sir Metropolis and now on tsu.

  • Heather Anderson

  • Down with them clowns

  • While the Insane Clown Posse (who blows chunks) and it’s fan are highly annoying (understatement of the year) the classification is ridiculous.

  • Well who would have ever thunk that the official morons of thought control would start cannibalizing people with a label thrown around so loosely it brings back memories of the good old days of the Salem witch hunts and trials. Will wonders ever cease?

  • This is complete bullshit

  • A lot of people who involve themselves with this band are often highly violent people, looking for any chance to hurt people they can. There was a big chunk of them at my school and they were always trying to fight people for random ass reasons. I’ve heard it’s even worse when they gather for a concert. I know a couple years ago, some homeless guy was walking past an ICP concert and got jumped by 20+ “clowns” and nearly killed him. From my personal experience they have a gang-like mentality with no cause. I don’t know if that would or should warrant this kind of reaction from the FBI, especially as they are no threat to government just random people in the streets, but I see a tiny spark of logic behind this decision. Not that I support it.

    • Sound like a reenactment of the Kelly Thomas beating. Maybe they want to be cops too.

    • hahaha, wouldn’t be surpised honestly.

    • king 810 <3 and yes they do.

    • Honestly i am a Slayer fan.

    • Haha i don’t know if i’m family, and I don’t condone all the stuff they sing about, I just like that they are a band who’s actually been through real shit. Not just blowing hot air.

    • I can back calvin up on this a bit, most the juggalos ive hung out with were all pretty violent and somewhat outspoken people, but still friends. even met some racist ones. Aint that some shit? A racist juggalo. thats like seeing blacks and mexicans in the KKK

    • But there’s definitely some logic behind it that i can see

    • LolThere’s no such thing as a racist Juggalo I’m a real juggalo and we beat them motherfuckers down. Just like any music or fan base group every tree has its bad apples and they’re usually posers. where I’m from is a juggalo saw another Juggalo beaten on some helpless person that Juggalo go kick the other juggalos ass

    • Midwest monsters ep > anything king will ever make

  • Look…. Juggalos are something else.. really, REALLY something else. And as much as they huff paint, still buy clothing at Hot Topic and look like they’d be sticky if you touch them, I’ve never encountered A violent or terrible one; just ones that are SUPER ANNOYING and they seem to all procreate with each other.

    Like “Idiocrocy” family trees that branch into uncles and cousins.

    #ClownyDaggers

  • count me in

  • Clowny Daggers y’all!

  • You like your music and I’ll like mine. Whoop Whoop!!!

  • hahahah, out of one side of your face you label all police brutal, and out of the other you say labeling an entire group of people is a dangerous tread…

  • Haha you guys called it “music”

  • fuck all gangs fbi and icp

  • Another example of the powers that be misunderstanding a group of people and rather than try to understand them they fire up the fear mongering machine. Must be a republican decision

  • Have you ever met a juggalo?

  • Adam Stanko haha damn.. we must be in this I mean we listened to them 20 years ago haha

    • Right, what the fuck! Guess it’s time to go chicken hunting.

    • Smashing balls against phone poles and shit hahha

  • WW

  • The FBI is a hate group!

  • this is an article about ICP being designated a hate group and gang. Not really the appropriate time or place to give your negative opinion of the group. Although you have the “right” to say what you want, you do look a bit daft and like you’re missing the entire point of the article.

  • Im a juggalo myself and i work at a water filtration plant and im a everyday drug free person and not a monster

    • You are seeing America turn into a fascist nation. Shoot me a message if you are ready to fight back.

    • The Faygo soda company beso Detroit was going to go bankrupt and go under and then ICP certain advertising your sodas amongst their fans

    • Based*

    • Damn google talk lol

    • We also do food drives and charities too

    • We do a big one every year on juggalo day

  • LOLOLOLOL What a crock of shit , the only people their “Clownies” hate is their parents

  • What good has the FBI done and

  • Well i smoke weed but I don’t classify that as a drug

    • It is a drug. Not a bad drug but still a drug by definition

    • It’s not a drug its a herb. An amazing plant that can do wonders. Weed is part of my daily activity

    • I consider sugar and caffeine as drugs…weed is just an herb

    • While I support weed as a plant… You’re an idiot. Sugar and caffeine which comes from coffee beans are also plants. If you’re gonna stand up for something at least make intelligent statements.

  • Already a Fascists state

  • they’ll be coming for your grandmothers’ knitting group soon.

    • How dare they be so subversive, kniting sweaters and stuff!

  • Just like KISS fan only more metal

  • I am not familiar with ICP, but art imitates life….deal with it. I do, however, remember well that to like, listen to, or dance like Elvis, you were going to hell. God forbid you like Alice Cooper or Ozzy Osbourne, that meant you worshipped Satan. If you don’t like the world that art reflects, change the world. But while they’re at it….can’t we do something about the Parrot Heads.? J/K LOL

  • Never been a fan, so I don’t listen to them, period and I don’t expect their fans to like what I do, hating fans of a band is ridiculous

  • ahahahhahahahaahhahahahhahahahahahhaahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahaha

  • I think they just need to keep their eyes on the ISIS members that are currently in this country.

  • oh man that’s hilarious

  • I dont drink maybe 3 beers a month

  • Some maybe idiotic but not all of them should be considered a hate group

  • Fuck a hater

  • This is fucking dumb

  • Too late we’ve been living under a modern form of fascism for a while now. The only thing lacking is the dictator .

    • He’s in office.

    • If you think Obama is a dictator I guess you have no idea what a dictator is. The fact that you’re even able to call him a dictator without being murdered for such, should be a clue that he is not a one. Best prez ever? Certainly not, but also not a dictator.

    • Dictator? Hell he couldn’t get a bill passed requiring background checks on fire arm purchases? Worst dictator ever..

  • They’re not a hate group, and they’re not a gang. They’re just a large collection of self-important junkies centering large parts of their mentalities around a pair of middle-aged fratboys. Don’t overcomplicate it.

  • Close to a fascist state? We are living IN A FASCIST STATE!

  • So are Raiders fans next… The guy with the spiked shoulder pads is their leader.

  • jUGGalos are freaks and will kill U …

  • The real subversive group here is the SPLC.

  • I don’t care for their music,but, just because of this, I may become a supporter. You can’t bust a suit on wall street for popping the economy, but you’ve got time for this silliness.

  • The classification is ridiculous, but to be fair, jugglos and their like, are wack-a-loons.

  • Criminals for loving the Faygo.

  • Just like motorcycle clubs are “gangs” and therefore a “criminal element”. The FBI are just a bunch of “good ol’ boys” with too much government funding.

  • We are all THREATS to the STATE! Even Concord PD said that Free staters are a THREAT to them, That is why they needed a tank! Here’s the one in MANCHESTER rusting away…..

  • Oathkeepers New Hampshire Is on Thier THREAT list!! So is New Hampshire!!

  • you God damn juggalos need to be stopped

  • I don’t believe Juggalos meet the minimum IQ requirements to be a hate group.

    • Bite me.

    • While that was an amazingly eloquent retort, perhaps you should keep yourself focused on delivering those pizzas.

    • Perhaps your willingness to profile an entire group should bring your IQ into question.

  • They are harmless trash. Why in the hell is anybody worried about them?

  • If you’re NOT on a government watch list by now, you should be ashamed of yourself….

  • Labeling groups should be done, but not with a music group as stupid as ICP.

    I believe groups like the Army of God or the Sovereign Citizens Movement should be labeled as terrorist groups, and the members should be charged, since they actually plan and carry out attacks.

  • This is like classifying Raiders fans as a criminal or hate organization. I don’t care for either, but what’s the big deal?

  • Dustin Scott Richard Dustin Bolanos Taylor Chase Brackenbury

  • The bildabergs are slowely implementing there plan yes what is going on is a directive to kill or lock up “useless feeders” as the planet population is not in peramiters for them to control and the planet can not keep up with demand of so many in the way we live off fosil fuel and produce waste!!!

  • Hate group? Hardly. The embarrassment of being caught listening to ICP should be shame enough. Just a bunch of kids who enjoy a band and feel part of a group. Who cares?

  • WTF??? Don’t care for their music, but this is absurd.

  • While we continue to argue amongst ourselves, divide because of the the new media reported bogeyman. The powerful will continue to control and conquer.

  • David Valentine…we are truly living in a messed up society if people can blame music for their actions.

  • I’m a fan of what they do and Im definitely not part of a hate group or Gang

  • Welcome to my world. That’s what they’ve done with bikers. Motorcycle clubs have been called gangs & are now considered domestic terrorists, but nobody cares.

    • Well motorcycle gangs actually get together and plot to kill and rob people. These are fans of a music group. Big difference.

    • I hope you don’t buy into that. They are clubs that raise money with different events, but I’m not going to change your mind. People who are guilty of such crimes should be held accountable. But to classify a group of people as criminal borders on fascism.

    • Because it’s true.

    • What’s true? How do you know?

    • Frank, hey man, you sound ready for a revolution and if your a biker, I assume you have skills and connections. Interested in a revolt? Shoot me a message. It is time to end fascism in America.

    • These sheep have no idea what the truth is because they trust Faux news.

    • That’s because some biker gangs, albeit a small percentage, are incredibly violent. They run tons of meth and weapons. The atf raided the Pagans I think it was here in PA a few years ago and found enough explosives and weaponry to arm a revolution in a small island nation. It’s not like people dreamed this up

    • Who is feeding you that information? Don’t believe everything they say. Question why they’re saying it. They are clubs, not gangs, not drug cartels. It is wrong to classify a group. Individuals should be held accountable.

    • Gemma did it.

    • You are not a fucking CLUB! YOUR A BUNCH OF FUCKING COWARDS WHO CANT STAND ON YOUR OWN. YOU HIDE BEHIND GUNS AND KNIVES. YOUR FUCKING CHICKEN THIEVES.

    • I don’t hide. You obviously don’t know enough to form your own opinion. I have no reason to fight, but if it’s necessary, I willing. So if you would like to meet me THEN judge me. I’m willing to do that. Derek Stiver.

  • treading? LOL

  • Stay silent when they come after you there will be Noone left to shout opposition

    • Slowly but surely they are classifying every one and every group. The masses remain silent. I couldn’t take it anymore and left the US, but am wondering what the tipping would be to get the people to stand up against something, anything. It’s really insane and sad. I do feel like the tipping point is coming though. Just like the Jews who left Germany before it hit the fan, I chose to leave, and I see the people sitting there on their thumbs as one by one they get categorized, monitored and the hammer gets ever closer to totally coming down.

    • You are right wonder what it will be

  • Are they a bigger criminal organization than our Gov.?

  • HaHa, this is how it starts, next is burning book then people!

  • the SPLC is rooted in racism

  • Get the hell our of here!

  • I would classify them more as confused, easily entertained, lacking any class and/or self respect and having extremely poor taste in music… but certainly not a hate group.

  • Joshua Hamilton

  • have anyone of you haters ever heard the song juggalo island? for real dude it talks about everyone getting along and having a great day the only way you could call this a hate group is if you see it wrong to hate the police the ones who come to your house and shoot you for holding a phone or banana they push us one step closer to guerilla warfare each day with this ridiculous shit soon it will be illegal to wear an anonoymous mask even though our freedoms to anonimitomy are protected by the constituoon where are your congress men when that happens sitting upper class laughing at your misfortune

  • The only real clown outfit are the losers in the FBI. Cross dress much?

  • Wait…what? For real? I’m not at all a fan of ICP and kinda hate them a little but if you look up all the charities that they give to it’s kinda amazing how charitable they are.

  • I guess kiss is on thier list too

  • Icp sucks anyways

  • The United States government is a hate group! Why don’t “We The People” takeover all government operations and run the country ourseves? I know we can do BETTER than all those that currently infest our government!

  • Crimes against fashion maybe

  • Billy Knutson

  • Republicans should be classified as a hate group

  • LOL…THIS IS A FASCIST NATION! …Tread closely??? pffft

  • why is this different than in the 60’s.

  • Idk I hate icp and their fans lol so normally id be against this but I hate them so much ill allow it

  • Retards not criminals

  • That makes as much sense as when the US Senate played Black Sabbath’s albums backwards to see if the voice of Satan was on them. 

  • DOUCHE CREW

  • “alert the FBI when they see people with painted faces.” Like these guys

  • Adam J Kelzer

    • It’s really funny that you tagged me here. I just watched a short documentary about this last night. While Juggaloes seem to be a bunch of knuckle heads in my opinion, I think hate group or gang is a bit ridiculous.

    • I thought you’d like this post. Lol

  • CLOSE?!?

  • they label almost everyone a hate group without legal basis it has no legal standing im surprised people still listen to them

  • it looks like its actually for targeting those celebrating the Mexican holiday, the day of the dead.

  • HA HA this is actually funny because i think i recall one of the band members giving an interview in the late 90s early 00 that their message has always been jesus and was satire to show the ignorance of such behavior and ideals. Supposedly they lost a lot of fans, the ones left now if that is true are the ones that either don’t know/care or stand with that message….Kinda goes with that theory that they really are targeting christians IMO.

  • is ridiculous.

  • so circus clowns beware

  • Already a fascist police state WTF

  • Nah they’re just people who have no taste in music.

  • as if the fbi would actually know who a terrorist was… or what a hate group was…

  • Juggalo for life, arrest me for being a “gang member,” or whatever the classification is. The whole ICP fanbase isn’t annoying actually, and anyone who thinks its shitty music hasn’t actually listened to it.

  • the real hate groups are the cia/fbi/dhs/cops/atf/dea/irs/dod..ect.

  • Oh dear, your child’s birthday party is in danger…..Goodgrannygwn

  • Wow
    Really?

  • Wow, the FBI stepped down to the CIA’s level of intelligence….both are stupid as fuck!

  • Billy Baxter Daniel Baxter

  • You guys see how much crap Barbara Boxer puts on her face. Painted terrorist if there ever was one.

  • Come on. “Close to”?

  • What the hell…

  • BWHAHAHA…..Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

  • tread dangerously close? we’re there and have been for a long time!!!!

  • put those clowns in a hard labor prison … teach them some manners

  • Dan Jackson

  • Lol

  • Juggalos are gang members, anyone that thinks otherwise needs to get hit with a dictionary.

  • This makes me want to jump in my juggalambo and go protest. Close to a fascist state? We’re there dude.

  • There is nothing free about the free thought project. If some one chooses not to like them is not it there choice and be defended.

  • That’s crazy. I like lil short bus.

  • This reminds me of the “Rave Act” of 2004…which is still law, btw. According to the Rave Act, if somebody gets busted with drugs at a “Rave”, not only is THAT person held responsible, the Promoter AND the venue owner are charged as well…which amounts to criminalizing electronic music…since it doesn’t apply to regular concerts or festivals…

  • a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

  • This is bullshit!

  • Dam straight!!!!! Im gonna read further 🙂 http://www.facebook.com/LIKESoCalJuggalos

  • Lmfao the comments. Really they are not a gang. I listen to there music and I’m great person. Inside and out. Whoop whoop for life.

  • Whaaaaat? Thas dumb as ‘ell

  • There ARE many many insane clowns in global society that need to be monitored before they do the incredible damage that other insane clowns have done throughout history: http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism

  • We live in a police state not in a democracy

  • Absolutely ridiculous

  • WHOOP WHOOP

  • This makes me sad.

  • Shared,absurd.

  • why isn’t Congress labeled a hate group yet?

  • Campbell Marr

  • They’re not a hate group, they’re just idiots.

  • I would not call them a gang nor a violent group. Maybe untalented hacks, ignorant pests, or even mediocre imbeciles. …. their music sucks, their fans are tards, and they act tough but garaunteed are little bitches. They are white boys trying to be what they don’t know. And doing a pathetic job at it. But not a gang

  • Can’t we just classify them as idiots?

  • This IS a fascist state.

  • That’s why the FBI stands for federal bureau of idiots!

  • What a bunch of shit…
    Like Paul Stanley or Gene Simmons would be a hate group? Just for there make up.

  • They are a hate group, they hate quality music, hygiene, education, houses that aren’t trailers…… I could go on for days, and to you other fools fuck king810 too bitches

  • They’re just idiots who listen to the worst music I’ve ever heard in my life. While some might be criminals, they shouldn’t all be classified as such.

  • On the other hand, if we use our own govt’s reasoning then the IRS and FBI are terrorist groups.

  • The Kiss fans are next……

  • America is slowly but surely turning into the same kind of bad guys that Nazi Germany turned into. You have the police state already. The police are allowed to murder citizens with impunity and a single criminal bomber can have an entire city put under martial law (Boston). Countries can be annexed at will, people can be assasinated by drone strike at will anywhere in the world and if a country looks like it cannot be bullied by force, then they will be bankrupted(Russia) by underhand crimal methods. When will the world wake up and do something about this malignant cancer I wonder?

  • What?! X)

  • Bad taste is against the law?

  • Fuck the FBI.

  • I didn’t know that they were still around

  • Pete Price

  • Any one against obama, and for Christianity is classified as a threat. The same as the veterans.

  • Admitting to being fans is embarrassing enough but to classify them as a hate group… Wow

  • I’m a criminal now???

  • So, as a Juggalo this is nonsense… However, I can see how a few, isolated groups of Juggalos could be called a hate group… There are places where some local Juggalos have claimed as white power groups or allied themselves with local white power groups… Once again tho, this is a very small minority of Juggalos…

  • Anna Bosch Sabrina Dempsey

  • The FBI is a hate group and a criminal organization!

  • Shoot me a message if you are ready to fight back. We are here to teach you, love you and accept you for who you are while we work together to take out our fascist masters. #nlm

  • The largest hate group are the 1% and their puppets in Washington.

  • Icp sucks

  • Well, they’re getting more specific. It used to be ALL rock and roll music.

  • Roflmao….whatever. Its music people get over it.

  • Musicians are hate groups? What has this country come to? The Beach Boys movie was just shown on tv. Is that what the conservative right wants us to see? The good old 50’s? The Donna Read Show, My Three Sons, Lassie?? Yet, violence is returning in a big way. Remember the tv shows, Bonanza, The Big Valley, the Rifleman? All these shows had gun violence, and discriminated against chinese, blacks, mexicans etc.

  • How about Christian fundamentalists and cops next?

  • Travis

  • HAY FBI FUCK YOU I HAVE THE WHOLE DISCOGRAPHY!!!! Shit Fucks.

  • Patrick Bogie

  • federal bullshit idiots

  • This is a fake story:
    Your article links to http://nytimes.com.co/ which is not the real New York Times. That site then links to the National Report which is a parody site like the Onion:
    http://nationalreport.net/juggalos-classified-hate-group-southern-poverty-law-center/

    Please try harder to verify your stories. A lot of people think the reporting you do is important and trust you guys.

  • lmfao, this is funny

  • Not a fan but long live the Juggalos!

  • This was first published in the national report. The national report is a satirical page like the onion. SPLC HAS NOT LISTED JUGGALOS. Calm down. SPLC does the good work, not the bad. Peace.

  • horrible picture used…..find something better lazy asses

  • I got my hatchet man when i found out they considered us juggalos a gang. Bitch we aint a gang we family whoop whoop!!!

  • Very shaky ground. The illusion of democracy is lifting in the land of the free and the home of the brave

  • National Report, a satirical fake news site, ran the story and WAY too many of you have fallen for it. “Disclaimer
    National Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within National Report are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental. Advice given is NOT to be construed as professional. If you are in need of professional help, please consult a professional. National Report is not intended for children under the age of 18.”

  • The SPLC is an amazing organization and they really deserve an apology or at least a retraction over this smear campaign against them. Although this story may be passed off as a ‘joke’, it is in fact serving to turn the very people SPLC represents against them.

  • Must be because of all the charity support they do….

    And wasnt this like…. 2008 news?

  • satan-hussein hitler Is a hate group.

  • ICP is not music and its fans are not good citizens

  • Nothing could be further from the truth. Bullshit.

  • Albuquerque PD is a criminal organization too

  • Hey Terry Ivers Jr.! Do you believe this crap!

  • They’ve done it to metal heads the 70’s.
    Welcome to the club ya weirdos 😉

  • About fucking time.

  • lol yeah hate punk ass cops

  • Read fine print

  • The only thing Juggalos offend is my nose.

  • The largest gang in america are the Dead Heads.

  • ICP can suck a dick. Clowns. Nuff said.

  • ‘close’ to a fascist state? already there

  • *UPDATE: It has come to our attention that this story, which was based off of what was believed to be a report by The New York Times, was actually a satire piece. The original report was not the real New York Times, but a lookalike website meant to scam people into believing it was the real thing. We apologize for our error.
    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/juggalos-listed-hate-group-southern-poverty-law-center/#2rfo6pULPL8w5sMi.99

  • Well duh, pretty much all of their songs are about killing people. While I’m sure the people that make the music are joking and not taking themselves seriously, there’s a lot of gullible people out there that take their music WAY too seriously.

  • Criminalizing groups of people for their musical taste isn’t “treading dangerously close to fascism”; it IS FASCISM PLAIN AND SIMPLE. What the fuck has happened to my once beautiful and good country? This shit has to stop!

  • It’s been updated. Author that reported this didn’t realize that his source was a satire site.

  • Sounds like third graders who just learned how to cuss….

  • Its fakr

  • Fake**

  • All government alphabet groups are seriously f**ked up.

  • Wondering when the police will be labelled a hate group

  • Another joke. What about Kiss fans? Bowie fans? Is wearing make up a crime?