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Student Suspended, Visited by Cops, Forced Psych Eval — For Pro 2nd Amendment School Project

Manville, NJ — Time out, lunch detention, and in-school suspension are all forms of discipline, among others, which teachers have employed to punish students for misbehavior. But after Frank Harvey, 17, a Manville, NJ, high school senior, completed a pro-2nd Amendment project, his school ordered him to get his head checked.

The incident began Monday after Harvey, as many students sometimes do, left his USB drive in the computer lab. Another student opened Harvey’s 11th-grade project and reported him to school officials.

At 7pm Monday evening, Harvey’s family said they were paid a visit by local law enforcement, who investigated Harvey’s claims the project was from last school year, and cleared him of any criminal mischief.

But that apparently wasn’t enough to satisfy the Manville School District who suspended and then promptly ordered Harvey to undergo a 5-hour psychological evaluation stemming from the months later discovery of his anti-gun control project.

It seems the teacher, who assigned the work, can no longer recall having done so. But the 12th grader disagrees and so does his family.

Harvey said his teacher approved his topic (against gun control), he completed the project, and received an “A” for his efforts.

Harvey, now a 12th-grader, says he completed the project as an assignment for his College Career Readiness class during the 2015-16 school year.

Screenshots of the video project titled “About Guns” show Harvey’s position was supportive of an individual’s right to self-defense using guns. He cited several incidents involving home break-ins that were thwarted when a homeowner fought back with a firearm.

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Harvey also inserted a few political cartoons which suggested citizens should arm themselves in the event of an active shooter scenario, and another which stated gun free zones don’t keep citizens safer.

The Harvey family, so disturbed by the demand their son undergo a psychological evaluation, and desiring to clear their son’s name, took their case to the court of public opinion and notified New Jersey’s News Channel 12.

“I’ve never been a violent person,” the soft-spoken young man told reporter Chris Keating adding, “I’ve never had detention in my life!”

Explaining further, he said, “It was assigned by the teacher and I got the topic which was anti-gun control approved by the teacher,”

Harvey’s mother Mary Vervan said, “I’m not taking him for a psychological evaluation because this teacher is lying and won’t own up to what she did.” Vervan alleges, “the teacher assigned it, my son did his homework, and he got kicked out of school for it.”

“They basically labeled them, pigeonholed them, torment them, hold that against them, watch every move they make,” Vervan said in reference to the treatment her son received.

The Manville School District refused to comment on Harvey’s individual case with reporters but the incident has now made national news in what appears to be yet another suppression of a student’s right to free speech, notably speech involving a position supportive of firearms.

His family, instead of complying with the school district’s orders, withdrew Harvey from Manville High School and he now says he’s focused on earning his GED.

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  • Citizen Quasar

    Schools do NOT teach the definition of a right. Instead, they teach the Pledge of Allegiance.

    • richoldsky

      Since when!

      • Citizen Quasar

        Maybe they don’t teach the Pledge of Allegiance anymore but they have NEVER taught the definition of a right.

    • stu magoo

      they need to teach both the pledge of allegiance and the Constitution, which would cover the rights thing. unalienable rights. that means rights given by GOD, not man or govt, therefore cannot be taken away.

      • Citizen Quasar

        The Constitution only enumerates a few rights in its Bill of Rights. However, it does NOT provide a definition of a right. Can you define one? How can anyone respect or protect rights if no one can agree on what a right is?

        Rights derive NOT from Divine Law NOR from Legislative Law but from the Law of Identity: Man is man.

        • williamdiamon

          Correct, a right is only as strong as the people’s will to fight for it.

          • Citizen Quasar

            I did NOT say any such thing. I said that no one evenkknows what a right is. I mean a taxonomic conceptual definition and NOT an undifferentiated blob of emotion.

          • williamdiamon

            You say that we are only men and rights don’t come from God, right?

          • Citizen Quasar

            Yes. I’ll do you one better. I will say there are no such things as gods.

          • williamdiamon

            Then perhaps I can explain our concepts of rights for you. Let’s start with the First Amendment. Everyone is free to think and say whatever they want to. To believe whatever they want as some believe in certain religions, and others, like you are free to believe in and speak about whatever it is that you believe in.
            In our Declaration of Independence they describe these rights as coming from “God, or Natures God” ( if you want to place him in the context of evolution ).
            This is why we consider and describe it as “granted by God”. Because the will to live free and control our own mind and life is inherent in all of nature’s organisms, especially homo-sapiens. Surely you do, and consider it a necessary part of life, yes?
            We codified that desire into the Amendment for everyone to understand because it’s a universal trait in all mankind.
            In this way, even those that claim no belief in God can understand it’s meaning and value.
            As you don’t consider it granted by God, because you don’t think he exists, consider that we do. We place the value of these rights as high as life itself.
            We in fact will go to war to defend our right to speak our minds. Throughout our history we have had to, it’s a reason we broke from the Crown.
            And many of the people who tried to silence our collective will met God while trying.

            Does that work?

        • stu magoo

          Inalienable right DOES mean it is a Divine right, from GOD, not govt. Sometimes these rights are referred to as Natural rights. That is what people get wrong all the time. especially the Supreme Court and Demoncrats. As for the basic definition of a right, anyone can look that up in a dictionary. oops, no one uses books anymore do they. Evidently the tranny movement has no knowledge of the Law of Identity. Send em the latest Aristotle podcast. 🙂

          • Citizen Quasar

            You couldn’t define a right if your life depended on it, which it does. I have no idea what “the tranny movement” is and I have no idea how it is relevant to this discussion.

          • stu magoo

            if you are too stupid to understand what i told you, he that’s on you citizen quacker. probably not a citizen, but i digress. do some research on your own and then come back and apologize. i know your libtard definition is different, but it’s WRONG! If you don’t see the relevancy of the tranny movement in regards to the “rights” discussion, then you just too stupid. They do not have a “right” to their own seperate bathrooms. end of story.

          • Citizen Quasar

            “if you are too stupid to understand what i told you, he that’s on you citizen quacker.”

            Since you are unable to reason thru your emotions, you resort to name calling.

            “i know your libtard definition is different, but it’s WRONG!”

            Liberalism AND conservatism are merely two different sides to the same false mind-body dichotomy. I am an Objectivist, and the Objectivist definitionof a right is:

            A right is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man’s range of activity in a social environment. It’s corollary is: A man must never initiate the use of physical force in human interactions.

            This is rationally demonstrable.

            “If you don’t see the relevancy of the tranny movement in regards to the “rights” discussion, then (sic)you just too stupid. They do not have a “right” to their own seperate bathrooms. end of story.”

            Who(m?)ever owns the bathrooms has the right to determine who uses them.

            I can see this conversation is going to go on all day and I have participated all I want to so I am through responding. Have a nice day.

          • stu magoo

            to sum up, you’re a legend in your own mind. good luck with that you silly fella you. that’s the libtard credo. everybody else’s opinion is wrong. only their wacky libtard views matter. get thee some counseling. you one sick puppy.

        • John Crawford

          Nonsense. What you describe are privileges. Privilege may be revoked. Will you stand and fight for privilege? Some of us will fight for Rights. Many have done so.
          Our Rights ARE defined, by Constitution and Founders. Why is that hard for you?
          Semper fi

          • Citizen Quasar

            The validation of rights is that rights are necessary for man to exercise his faculty of reason, which is his most basic and fundamental natural tool of survival.

            You can neither define nor differentiate what rights and privileges are. They are NOT defined either in the Constitution NOR by the Founding Fathers. If they were, it would be a simple matter for you to post them.

            “Why is that hard for you?” Simpli-fy?

          • John Crawford

            You are partly correct. The 1st 8 Amendments, introduced as Articles because they amend nothing, are specific. The 9th and 10th protect everything not specifically ceded to the central government.
            I post the Bill of Rights! Refute me, as YOU say. ” they are not defined either in the Constitution or by the Founding Fathers. ”
            Boy, oh boy, I can’t wait for this one. A fool and his money….!
            Semper fi

          • Citizen Quasar

            The Bill of Rights, all ten amendments, define nothing. All they are is a list. Where is a definition of a right in either the Constitution or the Bill of Rights?

            Simpli-fy.

          • John Crawford

            It is in the Declaration of Independence. Now I presume you’ll assert it has no standing??!
            Semper fi

          • Citizen Quasar

            Where in the Declaration is it? Please post the definition of a right that is in the Declaration of Independence.

          • John Crawford

            Already done. The Right to arms shall not be infringed.
            Property may not be taken without just compensation .
            Anything not mentioned is covered and may not be touchede.
            Too easy, and thanks.
            Semper fi

          • John Crawford

            BTW, what does “Congress shall make no law…” mean, if it isn’t specific to the English language?
            Semper fi

          • John Crawford

            Utter claptrap! You’d have been a good friend to Marx. His dialectic required monumental contortions of the mind, and ridiculed anyone who disagreed, as inferior. Because that is the way of Socialism.
            Our Rights are defined. Is English not your first language? Do you not understand such complex phrases as, “Congress shall make no law…”?
            Semper fi

          • Citizen Quasar

            “Congress shall make no law…”? This is NO definition at all. When I speak of a definition, I am speaking of (to put it country simple) distinguishing a concept from all other concepts.

            FOR THE RECORD:

            A right is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man’s range of activity in a sociable environment, and this right principle is that a man must never initiate the use of physical force in human interactions.

            The validation of this definition is that this is what is required by man, a conceptual life form, to exercise his faculty of reason, which is his most basic and fundamental natural tool of survival.

            Simpli-fy.

          • John Crawford

            Rights sanction nothing. Rights stop only where harm to others begins. God you statists are easy, because you despise liberty.
            Semper fi

          • Citizen Quasar

            I am NOT a statist, I am an Objectivist. I have posted a definition of a right, a conceptually taxonomic definition, being the intersection of a differentiative concept and an integrative concept. This definition is rationally demonstrable. It is validated by the nature of man’s survival mechanism.

            And yet I get called names by those who can not even understand (comprehend might be a better word) what I am saying, by those who lack very basic reading comprehension.

            So I am NOT going to waste anymore of my time trying to educate you. Have a nice day.

            Simpli fy.

          • John Cokos

            Objectivism ? It’s that AYAN RAND crap posing as a construct. She was a self-serving Russian Collectivist who invented the crap that you spew.
            She never contributed anything to Society, and was on the SS dole that she so despised at the end…..

          • Citizen Quasar

            Do you get paid by how many responses you get, OR do you just get time off your sentence?

          • John Cokos

            I feel that is my responsibility to ferret out the shit for brains psudo-philosophers who peddle clap trap like the Rand Cultist. Objectivism is right up there with SCIENTOLOGY

          • Citizen Quasar

            I am going to go with “time off your sentence.” Have a nice day.

          • Henry Rearden

            Funny the guy going on about founders and Constitutions defining rights calling someone else a statist. Confused much?

          • John Crawford

            Really? Given that they were not statists, I fail to see the humor.
            Semper fi

          • Henry Rearden

            They weren’t statists? A few dozen slave owners declared themselves to be the new ruling class, granted themselves the “right” to steal from all of their “subjects”, granted themselves control over the monopoly on violence, and made this agreement for about 4 million individuals at the time and for all future generations of people who happened to be born on their “turf”. You’re right, it isn’t funny at all. It’s pathetic and sad that so many still believe in the sick idea of authority.

          • John Crawford

            That’s really very funny. About half owned slaves, and about 30% of those were committed to ending slavery, which is why it lost its sanction after 1808. Next, please show the right you decry, for them to steal from anyone. Betcha can’t.
            Semper fi

          • Henry Rearden

            Yeah, owning human beings is hilarious.
            Article 1 Section 8 Clause 1.
            Here, I’ll save you the trouble since you apparently couldn’t be bothered before.
            “The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States…”

          • John Crawford

            You’re funny. I’ve looked at the same on many occasions. Slavery was worldwide, in 1780. Your judgement of them is immaterial. As for the rest, that is what a country’s government does, so none of your previous nonsense means a thing, except that you hate our system.
            Semper fi

          • Henry Rearden

            “Slavery was worldwide, in 1780.” For some and because the elite owned slaves doesn’t give them a pass. Maybe it’s immaterial to you, but I think owning other humans says a lot about a person.

            “that is what a country’s government does” So, you didn’t think I could show where government has granted itself the “right”, and then make excuses to defend it when I pull it from the Constitution. YOU’RE funny. Yes, stealing is what every government does which doesn’t magically make it “ok” or right. If theft is wrong for you and I, it is wrong for everyone. Writing some words on paper and performing some pseudo-religious ritual doesn’t change an immoral act into a moral one. Saying “our system” like it is something you and a bunch of others have chosen is collectivist nonsense. You can’t delegate rights you don’t have no matter how many agree with you.

          • John Crawford

            They never asked for a pass. They merely crafted a system of government that had no peer.
            You can certainly show where government has taken powers upon itself, but not a single Right. You haven’t shown any such thing.
            Your hatred is curious. Without taxation, how would you expect any country to survive, defend itself, etc?
            Semper fi

          • Henry Rearden

            “crafted a system of government” = created a ruling class
            I have shown exactly that. Can you simply declare that it is now “legal” to demand money from your neighbor to fund something you want?

            “You can certainly show where government has taken powers upon itself, but not a single Right. ” Oh really? How about my right to property for starters.

            A “country” is a geographic location. So, the survival of the individuals in this particular gang turf is dependent on having a ruling class with a monopoly on violence that can “legally” steal at will?

            Who is this “country” in danger of to defend itself and if there were a threat, who is going to defeat 100 million+ individuals with guns? I believe I am in way more danger by having a government “represent” me by stealing my money to fund foreign occupations and mass murder abroad.

          • John Crawford

            You’ve shown no such thing. Cite the words establishing a “ruling class”. State the written “class” established.
            Your Right to your property is protected by the 4th and 5th Amendments.
            Semper fi

          • Henry Rearden

            What is “government”? It is a collection of individuals who possess rights no one else possesses (creating “laws”, legalizing theft, monopoly on violence, etc.). The Constitution establishes and defines that group of individuals (a class) with the right to rule (tell everyone else what to do). Yes, the words “ruling class” aren’t used but that is what makes the Constitution so “special”. We use different words for things like “king”, “theft”, “legislation” and because we use those different words and politicians write stuff on fancy paper granting themselves a monopoly on those things, they magically become justified and legitimate.

            My “right” to property is quite obviously NOT protected considering that same document grants that class of individuals the “right” to take my property at will using “justified” force not excluding my execution if I resist. Hell, I never really own anything considering my wages are taken, I am robbed when I purchase something, I’m robbed repeatedly for owning it, and if I fail to pay, it is taken away.

            Just curious what you are “always faithful” to?

          • John Crawford

            Government has no Rights. It has Power. Our government may only seize your goods through your criminal behavior, which I doubt is the case, or through court order. That Power is abused, to be sure. And since the Kehoe case, wherein the Leftist half of the Court ruled with government instead of the Constitution, that abuse has grown somewhat. Join us in fighting the Left.
            The Constitution!
            Semper fi

          • Henry Rearden

            Rights are NOT defined by the Constitution or the FLounders. Rights exist by right of birth. Government doesn’t give rights. The Bill of Rights is an outline of rights government is “supposed” to protect. If it is given and taken away, it is a privilege and NOT a right. Rights cannot be justly taken away.

          • John Crawford

            The Constitution doesn’t define our Rights. It protects them. Our Founders did make pretty good definitions. YOu haven’t been reading my answers if you think I’m the one making the argument you are attempting to refute.
            Semper fi

          • Henry Rearden

            It quite obviously doesn’t protect them.

          • John Crawford

            You’re right. Government has grown too large and taken too much control over our lives.
            Semper fi

  • Zaphod Braden

    Where is the psych evaluation of the Manville School District?
    Where are the MANDATORY firearms safety classes for Children? “They” insist mandatory sex education is indispensable.
    They sure are interested in CHILD SEX but have no concern for CHILD SAFETY.
    To protect YOUR child …….ALL children should be educated.
    FIREARM EDUCATION ………… Our “Greatest Educators” pushed SEX EDUCATION in all schools as the cure for teenage pregnancy and STDs among the young. Where are their strident voices demanding FIREARM SAFETY EDUCATION in all schools !?

    • shagbargh

      Zaphod,you sure got on a roll with this topic. It saved me the trouble. Good on those parents for standing up for their son and not caving in to the school’s demands. My parents did the exact same for me for an essay I wrote in grade school, it meant everything to me and set a fine example of loyalty and commitment for what is just. I am sure this young man will reflect on this moment as positive the rest of his life.

  • Zaphod Braden

    This is “back to school sales time” LOOK at the ads for the high profit margin fad-clothes the “merchants” dangle in front of your children. Why are you allowing stores to profit off your children by glorifying GANG CULTURE? Back to School “sales” are telling your children they HAVE to dress like drug dealers, or prostitutes, that that is GOOD, and you wonder why your kids go BAD, want GUNS, get hooked?

  • Zaphod Braden

    It is not “GUN” violence it is CULTURAL violence.
    It is the deliberate destruction of the CULTURE that is at fault. Now who has been corroding Christian values for decades? Who has been PROFITING off glorifying violence?
    CULTURAL VIOLENCE
    Who has polluted the American “Mayberry” culture with “THUG GANGSTA” songs, games, movies, that glorify violence and promote violence as the ONLY way to deal with problems?!
    It is the CULTURE, STUPID ….. What has been done to Our culture by Media interested in PROFIT and “SOCIAL ENGINEERING” (just WHAT are they “engineering”?) NOT in creating a solid prosperous SOCIETY.
    MEDIA-ASSAULT-THOUGHTS. There is no action that is not preceded by the thought and idea of the action, and MSM has immersed America in violent anti-social thoughts. and been publicly proud and boastful of their ANTI-heroes. The immersion of a society in the thoughts and ideas of senseless violence unaccompanied by consequences. The flooding of Media venues such as music, movies, video games, TV, with thoughts and ideas designed to induce violent behavior. If purveying ideas through the media does not work ….. why are $BILLIONS spent every year on advertising and political propaganda if spreading “thoughts” does not matter?!?! Hillary is spending $HUNDREDS of MILLION$ on ADVERTIZING to try to INFLUENCE ACTIONS.
    What are the anti-Freedom activists doing except SPREADING anti-gun THOUGHTS hoping they will lead to ACTIONS?

    • winkwink1

      Garbage in = Garbage out
      Thoughts become actions with those that have no moral compass.

  • GAZOO

    What difference does it make if it was a homework assignment or not ? Everybody has a right to say and write whatever they want and it doesn’t have to be under the guise of an academic assignment. The student who alerted the school staff and the school staff are the ones who are mentally defective. School shooting are mostly fake. Fuck school, fuck authority and fuck the government.

    • Dean Franklin

      amen

    • Daniel Gol

      The student who opened the USB drive violated another’s privacy and so did the school. They are the ones who are wrong.

      • Kameko Bruns

        Um, not really considering (a) schools reserve the right to search pretty much any package being brought onto their property and (b) (and perhaps I should have led with this one) there is no such thing as a blanket right to privacy.

        That said, this is a sad example of gross over-reaction by the school administration. As soon as the student was able to show that this was in deed for class then the issue should have been put to rest.

        • Iplumeria

          Perhaps the school has the right but not another student.

          • GAZOO

            The school may have a right to look at the thumb drive but that’s all unless there is evidence of a crime on it.

        • GAZOO

          You missed my point. It doesn’t matter if it was a homework assignment. Anybody can say or write anything anywhere in America !
          Especially if it’s regarding a sacred American value like The Second Amendment. The school administrators are traitors and have no business being anywhere near American children, maybe North Korea.

      • Dan Menard

        Wow! So, some one has been paying attention as to where the actual crime took place. Bully for you Dan!

    • Kameko Bruns

      “School shooting are mostly fake.”

      I’m sorry, what? What idiocy are you attempting to pass off on us now?

      • williamdiamon

        I can’t speak for him, but I believe he refers to the gun-control movement’s attempt to improperly define any incident on a school ground involving shots fired as a “mass” school shooting. They have published articles with inflated figures as a way to scare the public into thinking the problem is a greater threat than it really is. Lover’s quarrels and robberies near school grounds are two that come to mind.

        • GAZOO

          see below

          • williamdiamon

            I see, but disagree. There are many real abuses visible and hidden, that our Federal alphabet agencies have perpetrated on the public. I try to concentrate on exposing them. I don’t believe that Newtown, or 911 for that matter, were false flag or inside jobs as convincing evidence for that just isn’t there.

          • GAZOO

            The evidence is overwhelming for both. You are in denial. I have a riddle for you.
            Q. What do apathy, denial and Stockholm Syndrome have in common ?
            A. They are all forms of treason.

          • williamdiamon

            I am not in denial, I have reviewed the claims and searched for evidence, but not found it convincing to any degree. I use reason as my guide, not ideology.
            Not because I have a desire to commit treason, nor am I in denial. Did you say that because you’re trying to convince me of your position, or out of frustration?

          • GAZOO

            Have you ever web searched “911 was an inside job” or “mass shootings are a hoax”? As I said the evidence is overwhelming. Do you really need me to provide you the links? Everyone who up voted you is also in denial. Its treason because you’re inability to face reality results in the real culprits getting away with murder and gun control and unconstitutional laws. Why don’t you tell us the research you looked into that has convinced you the official story of 911 is the truth. Do you really believe 911 was perpetrated by 19 Arab hijackers who couldn’t even fly a Cesna? I have another riddle for you that I wrote. Q. How can two airplanes knock down three buildings ? A. Cognative dissonance.

          • williamdiamon

            Yes, I have examined everything on YouTube and the net available and have since the who, how, and why questions first appeared. I find the evidence to overwhelmingly disprove the conspiracy theories.
            Again, I have no predilection to either side of the matter or preconceived opinion. I let the facts speak for themselves.
            Why do you seem to take this on a personal level? Are you trying to badger me to agree with you, or are you simply looking for an argument?

          • GAZOO

            You are a fucking retarded traitor or a paid troll. Why don’t you reply to the two points I made about 911 ? Because you can’t argue with logic. I could easily list ten points proving 911 was the government and you would ignore them all because you are in denial. Its morons like you who drag everyone else down with them.

          • williamdiamon

            My mind is based in logic, feel free to offer some at any time. They took flying lessons in AZ, remember? Who do imagine flew those planes…Donald Rumsfeld?

            But go ahead and call me whatever you want if you need to. I can tell you have a lot of frustration inside over the issue. It’s just that you haven’t convinced me by doing that. In fact it says more about you than about me, doesn’t it?

          • GAZOO

            Yes it is frustrating conversing with idiots. The flying lessons were in Florida and they couldn’t master landing. If you go to “Pilots for 911 truth ” you will see that the most experienced pilots can’t fly into the WTC or Pentagon on the first try on a simulator, so there is zero chance a novice could do it. You didn’t explain how Building 7 fell without being hit by a plane. The buildings were brought down by explosives. Did the terrorist plant bombs weeks in advance ? I could go on all day. I think you’re a paid troll who gets paid by the reply. I’m no longer responding because nobody could be as stupid as you. You must be pretending to be restarted.

          • williamdiamon

            An FBI agent discovered them training in AZ also. That agent was the one who brought the matter of them to their superiors because they had told the instructor that they were not interested in learning to land the plane, only take offs and maneuvering. Unfortunately their concern was dismissed. To your point, they couldn’t land because they had no reason to learn and no intention of ever landing the planes.
            Building 7 caught fire as burning debris fell from the towers into it. Look into the architectural design of the building and you will understand further. The explosions heard were floors and components collapsing onto each other. This was evident to the responders at the scene at the time. Their written testimony an transcripts of radio communications can be found online.

            “stupid”, haha, yer too cute… For an insult to have the desired effect there must be a modicum of truth in it. jus sayin

          • GAZOO

            You are a complete fucking moron. Building seven was clearly brought down by explosives. You know you’re a deceitful troll. You didn’t explain how airline pilots with thirty years experience couldn’t do it on a simulator. Those planes can’t fly at high speeds at low altitudes because the air is too thick. Explain why the engine found at ground zero is from a different type of aircraft then the one that supposedly crashed into the WTC? The fact is that 911 was planned thirty three years in advance when the construction began. Explain why the BBC ‘journalist’ reported the collapse of Building 7 while it was still standing right behind her. You know you are a liar desperately trying to defend treason by our own government. All of your up votes are fake. You should tell your boss over there at the troll office that you failed in your mission and you should try peddling your absurd deceit on other than alternative websites like the one this story was posted on. You’re wasting your time here, nobody buys into your ridiculous BS. You haven’t tried to debunk my original assertion that most mass shooting are fake. Are you afraid ?

          • williamdiamon

            I was going to answer each of your questions, but as I was typing I was kidnapped by aliens from outer space and taken away in a flying saucer. Maybe when I get back…

          • GAZOO

            You just admitted defeat.

          • williamdiamon

            I have answered your posts with sincerity and honesty in my replies and the utmost respect for your opinion, yet have consistently been met with insults and 5th grade name calling in return.

            At this point I have better things to do than argue with a zealot.

            Wait…don’t tell me you don’t believe me…yet you expect me to take your word as unquestioned truth? Who do you think you are to dis me for mentioning a fringe phenomena, when your entire belief system is a conspiracy theory? Yep, you won, now go and be happy, you need it.

          • Simply Irredeemable

            LOL. Awarding Participation Awards now?

          • williamdiamon

            I felt sorry for the little feller. Looks like that big head of his
            needs a pat once in a while, or he becomes bitter at the world. Just
            trying to make him feel better.

          • Simply Irredeemable

            Ha ha. Kinder and gentler you are, william. ?

          • williamdiamon

            I retract my claws, on occasion.

          • GAZOO

            You haven’t refuted anything. You name is a joke. Diamond is a Masonic word that equals 33 in numerology. Also Satanists are obsessed with diamond. I don’t lose any credibility by insulting you because I back up all of my assertions with proof. You just sit there and say I’m full of it without providing any evidence. Your up votes are absolutely fake . Nobody ever gets twelve up votes this far down in a thread because nobody reads that far in a comment squabble. Why don’t you refute my points before I list more facts that prove the criminal government perpatraited 911. BTW if you want to learn about ‘diamond ‘ and ’33’ go to Russianvids on YouTube.

          • williamdiamon

            Yes, I am totally fake, just like my up-votes. In fact I’m not even here, but just a figment of your imagination.

            William Diamond was the drummer boy for the Lexington militia on the morning of April 19, 1775. I use his name in reverence for his actions. That you have conflated the name into a conspiracy doesn’t suggest wisdom or insight on your part, but madness. I hope you feel better soon, no joke.

          • GAZOO

            The Masons were behind the American Revolution. The Drummer Boy was probably fake based on his name. You lack the intellect and gumption to visit Russianvids and give yourself an education. By the way Lexington and Concord was a false flag operation just like 911 was. And Pearl Harbor and The Gulf Of Tonkin and the Battleship Maine etc… Of course you say I’m crazy because anything you lack the intellect to understand must be crazy. And once again I’m providing proof while you just sit there and talk shit. You have yet provided one link to back up your pathetic assertion that terrorists were the perpetrators of 911. Also you never got back to me about how most mass shootings are fake hoaxes. Your up votes are your fellow trolls at the troll HQ.

            https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1160-james-perloff-on-the-false-flag-heard-round-the-world/

          • williamdiamon

            That’s nice.

          • GAZOO

            Of course you ignore the proof as usual.

          • GAZOO

            The vast majority of history is a conspiracy. But you already know this because you are a conspirator.

          • williamdiamon

            “As you all know, you just can’t believe everything you see and hear, can you?”

          • GAZOO

            Especially from a paid troll shill like you.

          • williamdiamon

            OK, you’ve totally convinced me. Now, where do I pick up my pay check, I’m rapidly running out of tinfoil.

          • GAZOO

            Your ad hominem attacks are all you got because you have no evidence or facts.

          • williamdiamon

            Perhaps I’ve misinterpreted you, are you by chance, a comedy act?

            You’ve called me an idiot and a moron, which by the way, one can’t be both. A deceitful paid troll, retarded (I think, you spelled it “restarted”), a conspirator and a shill, yet now claim I’m the one posting ad hominem attacks. yer too cute
            Go ahead, let it all out, get it all out of your system, you’ll feel better afterwards. Just try not to get any on yourself.

          • GAZOO

            If I wrote restarted it was a typo, it can be difficult to respond on the phone. I wasn’t making ad hominen attacks on you, I was stating a fact, you are all of those things. I also backed up all of my remarks with facts, something you are incapable of doing. Keep calling me names without any solid arguments. I have countered all of your reply with more facts. You just can’t admit you have no valid arguments. I can keep making you look stupid indefinitely. You must be some kind of perverted freak who enjoys being insulted and kicked around by your intellectual superiors. Please tell me I’m crazy again, it’s a very powerful argument. You must enjoy telling yourself you know what you are talking about.

          • John Crawford

            What?? Our pilots are mostly former military, who can do gun runs and close air supports runs in a very finite point. Your “pilots” are idiots.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/
            Are you saying you believe the official story of 911 in which the WTC was brought down by terrorists who hijacked commercial jet liners ?

          • John Crawford

            Of course. Engineers have looked at the buildings. Experts have testified. I watched as 2 planes hit the buildings. Didn’t you?
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            Henry Kissinger infamously once said “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” I think he was talking about you. The fact is that no airplanes hit the WTC. They were holograms. Those planes can’t fly 600 MPH at low altitudes because the air is too thick and the engines will explode. The buildings were designed to handle airplane collisions. It’s obvious that bombs were going off and no plane hit the WTC 7. If you reply I promise to provide links to all of the 911 proof that it was our criminal government that was behind 911. Regardless of all the overwhelming evidence, I can prove it right now with logic. On 911 I immediately knew it was our criminal government behind the attacks because of the attack on the Pentagon. The first plane could have been an accident, the second proved it was no accident. The attack on the Pentagon was 35 minutes after the second tower was struck at 9:03 AM. F 16 fighter jets top out at 1350 MPH. Andrews Air force Base is about 13.5 miles from the Pentagon, therefore they could have been at the Pentagon literally in one second after being airborne. The W.D.C. Air National Guard purposely stood down. There is no other explanation.

          • John Crawford

            No exception of the planes were doing 600. Hilarious.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            This is an incoherant statment. Are you saying that there is no dispute how fast the planes were traveling ?

          • John Crawford

            They weren’t travelling at 600, because they had not gotten to that speed, and had to slow for the turns.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            Again, wtf are you talking about ?

          • John Crawford

            You wrote, “Those planes can’t fly 600 MPH at low altitudes because the air is too thick and the engines will explode.” So, what were you talking about? And who has told you those engines won’t take 600 mph at lower altitudes?
            Semper fi

          • John Crawford

            Fighter jets would have to find the right aircraft. Then someone with the authority has to tell them to shoot down a Civilian airliner. You might think that is easier than it really is.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            Are you a total retard ? You shoot down the airplane that has it’s transponder shut off and is heading towards the Pentagon. Also the official story is that the closest interceptors were too far away which is ridiculous considering that AAFB is ten miles from the Pentagon. You never responded to the fact that airlines pilots with thirty years of experience couldn’t do it on a simulator the first try. You’re in denial and it makes you a traitor to America.

            https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=dick%20cheany%20stand%20down%20order

          • John Crawford

            There was no such policy. Policy was that permission was required.
            Semper fi

          • John Crawford

            They certainly could not have done it as you describe. Coming just recently out of take off, the planes take a while to get to 600. Furthermore, pilots trying to do it on simulators would not be trying to fly outside of FAA restrictions.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            WTF are you talking about ? You aren’t making any sense. I said that f16s travel 1350 MPH not 600. As I said the NIKE missles were removed because airplanes are far more efficient at protecting a Washington DC.
            http://bgr.com/2015/07/17/f-16-fighter-jet-takeoff-video/
            Your point about simulators is absurd. I’ll bet you didn’t even visit Pilots For 911 Truth.

          • John Crawford

            I visited their site in years past. They’re idiots. A good friend is a senior captain with FEDEX, and former Navy pilot. He says they’re idiots as well.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            Pilots for 911 Truth must be idiots if you and your imaginary friend say they are.

          • John Crawford

            If you’d actually read their nonsense, AND had a friend who flies the big planes, you’d think so too.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            You obviously haven’t read any of the links I have posted.

          • John Crawford

            No, I read through the Pilots site. ZERO evidence. Lots of speculation and allegation. The big bad NTSB didn’t give them the info they want, so it’s obviously a coverup, right?
            BTW, I loved your “hologram” comment. It gave me a good laugh.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            The fact that you won’t address the many links I have provided or provide any of your own is an admission of defeat. My links prove there could not have been any airplanes but you won’t even look because you lack the intellect. Your lazy stupidity is reflecting poorly on your fellow Marines. Let me clarify about the holograms. The TV footage is fake .
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL_x9NsxJlg

          • GAZOO

            Why were engines from planes that didn’t match the ones that supposedly attacked found at both WTC and Pentagon ? I can list plenty more facts. Stop being a traitor and face reality.

          • John Crawford

            List the facts. What engines, by serial were on the plane? What serial numbers were reported at the site?
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            The engines found at WTC and Pentagon were both way too small to be for 767. The one at the Pentagon was from an A3 Worrier. You keep saying Semper Fi like you believe you are some kind of Patriot, you are a traitor.

          • John Crawford

            Cite the serial numbers. No other evidence is germane.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            Once again I’m providing a plethora of proof and you just sit there and deny the facts.

            https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=911+airplane+parts+serial+numbers

          • John Crawford

            No proof at all. NOTHING. Allegations. The pilots (sic) website uses the word “alleges”, and complains that the NTSB would not provide the answers it sought. The only thing with which I agree is that government is too secretive, and they likely broke the FOIA. I’m not shocked at that. But ZERO proof is offered.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            I was thinking you were just a low IQ fool but now I’m starting to think you are a phony paid shill troll. You are ignoring all of my links and not providing any of your own.

          • John Crawford

            A3?? A plane retired 10 years before? And how was this remarkable feat accomplished, given that the site was under scrutiny, and eyewitnesses saw the real plane which hit the Pentagon. But perhaps it was your alien hologram projector?
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            The eyewitnesses are full of shit and what difference does it make if the A3 is our of service ? Once again you don’t address the links.

          • John Crawford

            ALL A3’s are in US government hands. None are missing. None used JT85D engines. The crash damage was too large for the small A3. So, where did the terrorists get A3’s? How did they cram a planeload of civilians into it? And why are eyewitnesses wrong, when your sources are NOT eyewitnesses?
            Semper fi

          • John Crawford

            I love the conspiracy, but it’s nonsense. No bomb evidence was found withstanding impact is not the same as a plane load of fuel creating havoc, which is what happened. The structure was weakened by impact. The heat is what brought them down. But holograms?? That is hilarious.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO
          • GAZOO

            I just want to add that W.D.C. used to be surrounded by NIKE surface to air missile installations. They were turned into parks in the 60’s because they were obsolete compared to the protection that fighter jets provide.

          • John Crawford

            I remember one near my childhood home, about 25 miles east of D.C.
            Semper fi

          • GAZOO

            To answer you question, yes it is frustrating to see criminal psychopaths attempt to destroy America because mental weaklings like you can’t face reality.

          • williamdiamon

            “Mental weaklings”? Check out the brain on Gazoo…
            I’m pretty sure my brain can beat up your brain, even though your are a big head MF, come on, put ’em up…

          • Henry Rearden

            So, you think the government’s narrative IS convincing? LMFAO!

      • GAZOO

        Not just school shooting are mostly fake hoaxes most mass shooting are as well. Absolutely nobody died at Sandy Hook and Orlando and Charleston or the five police in Dallas. The real ones are the exception. Try doing a little research and you will be satisfied that these events are completely fake.

        http://www.activistpost.com/2015/09/10-ways-to-spot-a-false-flag-mass-shooting.html

        https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Russianvids+shooting+hoaxes

        https://radicalwitch.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/list-of-u-s-media-hoaxes-shootings-staged-to-frame-the-mentally-ill-and-citizens-who-exercise-2nd-amendment-rights/

    • Karll

      When I was in high school, I would have stomped the bejesus
      out of some rat who screwed me over that badly, over Nothing.

    • seygor

      But unfortunately this may affect his getting into the college of his choice. A GED has an unfair stigma attached to it and his school records will unfairly show him unfit for higher education
      I’d sue their pc butts of for damages his biased school records will show

      • GAZOO

        Hell yea… sue the shit out of em.

  • robertsgt40

    I’m guessing if the topic had been gender neutral restrooms he’d get a scholarship to Harvard.

    • Katydid

      OMG. After all the garbage I have read today, your comment made me laugh. Thanks for that, and you’re probably right.

      • robertsgt40

        Glad you enjoyed. I’m a crusty ol Vietnam vet and I’ve seen enough of this crappola. Too much old skool in me I guess ; -)

        • flagmantexasmarine

          Semper Fi
          from this old Marine

          • robertsgt40

            Yup. Bonus ur in Texas too. I’m afraid our country (notgovt) is gonna need us again. That, I can get up for.

          • flagmantexasmarine

            You are correct
            I am ready
            Lock & Load

        • Helland

          NO, not too much of the old school in you.

        • Greg Geitner

          old skool and common sense and logic.

        • John Cokos

          There’s No School Like Old School ! 100 degrees by 10 AM…

  • Katydid

    And government schools wonder why they are losing kids to charters, private schools, and home schooling. Zero common sense, mainly.

    • robertsgt40

      Common sense been replaced with common core.

      • Dan Menard

        So very true!

  • Ibcamn

    achools do this because they are indoctrination centers,and they can’t let kids get away with this,so they force them to do something to put on a show,so the other students don’t dare do anything the school doesn’t like…..its like a pipeline to prison…

    • Daniel Gol

      I thought I was starting to read “alcohols do this because…” It would have been kind of fitting, I think 🙂

      • Ibcamn

        no shit, it would have made way more sense for what happened…

    • John Cokos

      SOG PIN ? CCN RT NEW JERSEY

      • Ibcamn

        correct,my old patch…eat em up,yum yum…..Florida RT….[i can never find a pin]….

  • Tom

    Time to lawyer up and go on the offensive. Sue everyone involved in the violation of the kid’s civil rights. And sue big. Sting them hard.

    • KimWilde

      Really if the Taquiyya “clockjerk kid” can sue everyone for nothing this family has a real case—–oh I’m sorry he’s not moslum so it won’t see a court room.

  • CBUJAN

    People running our educational system are totally ludicrous !

  • Karll

    That happened in my state, the Peoples Republic of NJ, and when
    I tell you that you risk incarceration for shooting a BB gun in your yard,
    believe it. The anti-gun laws and propaganda have reached hysterical
    proportions.

  • Scottyone77

    This is another fine example of Comminist, Big Brother, Common Core BS. I hope the parents sue the Hell out of this Constration Camp for kids. Hit them where it hurts them in the pocket book. To hell with Public Schools until they are cleaned up and cleaned out of these Communist, Godless administrators and teachers.

    • Henry Rearden

      “To hell with Public Schools until they are cleaned up and cleaned out of these Communist”
      Funny. Any forced “public” entity IS a socialist program (which includes government of ANY kind). You can’t “clean up and clean out” a communistic program of commies.

  • Mike

    Got a sex ed pamphlet from the grand daughters school last year. It showed all white girls with black males in the pictures. No white males with black girls. (they weren’t dirty or any thing, just head shots) When I asked the principal about it they confiscated the pamphlet and said they could charge my grand daughter for stealing it! WTF is next?

  • Whaledriver

    Sounds as though Frank Harvey was writing his entrance exam paper for Hillsdale College.

  • bigmur

    Another left wring teacher that does not own up to her teaching. Also what right does another student have looking at someones elses flash drive you see who it belongs to return it you idiot. He did nothing wrong and his parents should get a good lawyer not a TV shyster. You will see how fast they will change their minds when hit with a 5 Million Dollar invasion of a students rights lawsuit, or something along that line. I will also civilly sue that teacher for lying and causing all these problems with my child. Their are law firms that will do this pro_bono just for the publicity also theirs the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)
    might take this case and they don’t charge. GOOD LUCK YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE THIS LYING DOWN IF IT WAS MY CHILD I WOULDN’T.

    It also sounds like you have a great child with a great future ahead. DO SOMETHING NOW. Also get a copy of the police report or case number when the police showed up at your door. Call for it now before its lost.

  • Louie Rey

    Just further proof that America’s institutions of higher learning are strictly indoctrination factories for liberal thinking. That seems like one of the biggest oxymorons ever, liberal thinking.

  • BSORaiderErie

    This is the system created by the elitists to help provide jobs for their friends and family elitists.
    The 2nd Amendment is a God given right according to the US Constitution and I’m tired of these idiots on the left thinking that they know what is best for everyone.
    How many US cities have a higher rate of illiteracy than some of the war torn areas our troops are delpoyed to as we comment?
    It is time to send these college educated nitwits to face their communities when crap like this is uncovered. A mandatory meeting with parents of the students in a closed off environment with one way in amd only one way out and no police security. If their decisions are great then security isn’t needed and if their decisions are not so great then security won’t matter.
    Take back our schools from the leftwing lunatics and their propaganda and the sooner the better.
    I hope that this family has contacted a good lawyer to sue the school and the district and we should all send Manville an email.
    God Bless the USA and Springfield Armory! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ca79e2ef10f3c15465ba7bb5b5c0fae7dd032329ed13b2e7aa9077bafc31f75f.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d740ced5979143544bacf891efe4f04fa0d9ead0087b212aa61968c8ff1d801a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d9543d01ea60fe0232aa8b8763acce1df3bec4146f5f93fa317dfd2c56891be2.jpg

  • Nina Ferguson

    This should be a case where the parents should sue the school and nail them to the wall.

  • JOHN T. FOX

    THE FAMILY DID THE RIGHT THING AND THEY SHOULD SUE THE SCHOOL INTO EXTINCTION!! THIS IS NOTHING NEW. ESPECIALLY IN COLLEGE!

  • gerald Hughes

    1st, if the family wants to sue the school district, the teacher and everyone involved in this personally,. I would love to chip in money on this for them to do it.
    I would sue for enough to bankrupt the school,district and the individuals involved.
    We have come to the place where it is evident that we can no longer coexist with the liberal dem bloodsuckers.
    We must physically separate ourselves from these lifeforms, it is the only way to prevent civil war..

  • Ferd321

    A lawsuit seems to be in order here, for psychological damage to the student. Lots of
    targets: the other student, the teacher

  • Gun Toting GrandMa

    Has anyone sent this or made the NRA or USCCA aware of this?

    Mom of this kid he doesnt need tk settle for a GED there are home school programs he can take, force the same school district to pay for it, as tey have discriminated against him and have denied him his civil liberties. I woukd never give up on this now in high school because they are worse in college. The colleges are very much teaching against our civil rights all the time.

  • Gym

    Thank GOD (libs hate that) the power trip of the looney left will come to a screeching halt 1.21.17.

  • hogrider

    The 2nd Amendment wasn’t written for just hunting to put food on the table.
    The British tried twice to take away firearms from the citizens. Has everyone forgotten how that turned out.
    When the private citizens are armed the government will fear them. Keep socialism at bay, it doesn’t work. If you happen to be someone who believes other wise. They haven’t studied history.

  • Meg

    If he was a muslim, he would have been given a spot at a good college and a ride to the WH. Sue the school to get your tax dollars back. Clock boy has a big lawsuit pending for mega bucks.

  • needful

    the mother should sue the school district,the kid has the right to be proud of his work and the 2nd amendment.

    • Henry Rearden

      And IF the mother were to win the lawsuit, where does the money come from? Does the school district generate their own money from the free market? Nope, suing the school district is suing your neighbors (and yourself).

      • williamdiamon

        It is the moral principal, the precedent, and the refutation that the child had done anything wrong that a successful lawsuit would give the family.
        Right now the boy is considered unfit by the school system, must finish his studies through the GED system, and the school gets off Scott free to do this to anyone else they choose.

        If the school refuses to issue a public apology to the student, only a lawsuit could correct this matter. The money could be as low as lawyer fees and $1.00, as long as the point is made.

        • Henry Rearden

          The “moral” principle to use the state to rob your neighbor for something the state did? Yep, sounds legit and I’m sure that will put a stop to it. Heads up, government ultimately answers to no one.

          • williamdiamon

            Speak for yourself,
            If your government “answers to no one”, they have removed all semblance of a legitimate government, and you have capitulated into slavery.

          • Paul

            Yup.

          • Henry Rearden

            LOL! I have news for you. Government (US or any other) doesn’t answer to anyone. There is NO such thing as “legitimate” government simply because you cannot delegate a right to someone else that YOU don’t possess yourself.

          • Henry Rearden

            I do speak for myself and “I” claim no government. There is no such thing as a government that answers to anyone and there is no such thing as a legitimate government. No one can delegate a right they don’t possess themselves. A group of individuals who call themselves government grants themselves a monopoly on violence, a monopoly on “law”, the “right” to take anything they wish from their subjects. You’re right about one thing, it is slavery.

            Surely you must recognize that, if a lawsuit against the state is successful, “government” isn’t answering for anything. They simply steal from their subjects (including the victim) to give to their victim. Government owns nothing. Anything it gives to another, it takes from someone else.

          • williamdiamon

            Of course I understand that, but outside of a public apology the courts are your only option.
            If the community that pays for that school, and lawsuit, can’t find it in themselves to correct the school’s actions board through public pressure – that means they side with the school board. If they don’t want that student in their classroom, let them pay for a private school.

          • Henry Rearden

            The courts are NOT your only option as you pointed out yourself in your last sentence. Avoiding anything government is always my first choice. Unfortunately, as you also mentioned, that community is forced to pay for the government indoctrination camp regardless of how they choose to educate their children (or if they even have any children for that matter). “Speaking for myself”, I would choose the non-violent option and simply remove my child.

          • williamdiamon

            No you are not only paying for your child’s private education, through your taxes you are still paying for the education he will no longer use, and the education of children whose parents think it’s OK to persecute your child as a way to indoctrinate all of us into disarmed slaves for political reasons.
            Are you ready to sue them yet?

          • Henry Rearden

            What is more disturbing to me is that I’m being forced to help fund mass murder on the other side of the ocean. Again, I would choose the non-violent option and simply remove my child. Suing a government entity is an exercise in futility. If I am awarded money, that money will be taken from my neighbor. I would not feel justified in taking money from my neighbor because of something another individual or group did to me so I would not use government to do it either. Suing for “policy change” or an apology is also an exercise in futility as is obvious. They are excellent and creating rules/laws for the commoners, but have a tendency to ignore those laws themselves OR just call the act something else and make it legal for themselves to do (such as “taxation”). A bigger statement might be if a large percentage of the parents of the school removed their children and them and sent them to a private school. The thing is, public school is an indoctrination camp and this school is doing it’s job. We can’t have people running around, thinking for themselves, knowing their rights and such. That’s dangerous because if enough people start to question why we need a ruling class, enough may figure out that we actually don’t to make a real difference.

          • williamdiamon

            I have never understood pacifism. The moral implication of doing nothing in the face of evil is in itself evil. There was never meant to be a ruling class in America. The concept is itself un-American. Feel free to remind them at every turn. And when it comes to the school board’s actions in this case, the student being punished for innocent research on a class assignment, we have an opportunity to correct an injustice. Your assumption that it would make no difference is called defeatism. Don’t place those chains on yourself.

          • Henry Rearden

            I don’t consider taking action to remove my child from the situation defeatism. The real win was that this individual family was shown the truth and their child will no longer be subject to the indoctrination camp and they likely have an entirely new view of that institution. The problem isn’t government or the school system. The problem exists in the minds of the dupes who continue to support it. It makes zero sense to attack a government entity with itself considering all government resources are taken by force from their “subjects”. The real battle is in educating others. Not lashing out with misguided and unfruitful actions (attacking government with government) isn’t pacifism. Taking a more intelligent approach and attacking the root of the problem is much more beneficial in the long term for everyone, though maybe not bringing the short-term satisfaction of “I’m taking you to court”. But hey, I believe in freedom and the fact that you should be free to do what YOU feel justified in doing.

          • williamdiamon

            All of that works together. You correct the legalities, public record, and financial wrongs through the courts, and you lead by example in your daily life. All fingers of the same hand.

          • Red47 #nevermind

            I just saw the kid’s video and figured out the problem. HE used the word “heaven”. Good grief.

          • williamdiamon

            I don’t know too much about religion but I think the only one to be offended by heaven, is the devil…

          • Red47 #nevermind

            Well…

          • williamdiamon

            Yes, exactly. They should never be allowed near children while unattended, let alone a classroom full.

          • Red47 #nevermind

            Yep.

        • Henry Rearden

          Government gets to do anything they want anyway. You haven’t noticed? So, a drawn out hearing/trial to use government to force government so say “sorry” while simultaneously forcing your neighbor to pay for it all. What will this accomplish again?

          • williamdiamon

            Justice.

          • Henry Rearden

            Justice = making the victim whole
            How exactly is a forced apology and using the force of government to rob your neighbor to pay for it justice?

  • annefarrelly

    Need to elect Trump to get mandatory school choice legislation passed. This is a civil rights issue. Everyone’s taxes that are appropried for schools should give the taxpayers the right to chose good education rather than be forced into the school in their zip code.

    • Henry Rearden

      “Need to elect the guy “I” want to force people to do what “I” want them to do because “civil rights”. People have the right to decide where their stolen money gets spent!”
      Yeah, it sounds THAT stupid.

      • Casey Bartnik

        This is why we vote–even you have a right to advocate for whatever cause you choose. At least until Hillary is elected!

        • Henry Rearden

          I have a “right” to use the violence of government to force my ideas on my neighbor? If you feel justified in using government to do something you’re unwilling and/or would be considered immoral to do on your own, you are a coward.

        • Henry Rearden

          “Advocating” for something and using the violence of government to force it on my neighbor (voting) are two very different things. You absolutely have a “right” to advocate for anything you want. You do NOT have a “right” to use violence to make your neighbor support it.

        • Henry Rearden

          Justice = making the victim whole
          How is a forced apology from the school and stealing from your neighbor to pay for it justice?

        • Henry Rearden

          Democracy is a terrible idea. The minority always loses and the majority uses the violence of the state to force their will on their neighbors (kind of like gang rape). You cannot delegate a right you don’t possess.

  • Oingo Boingo

    Manville…as in, Asbestos.
    There are Asbestos fibers in the pointy heads of the Gits that run Manville Pubbik Skooz.

  • JamesWKing

    Liberals appear to have a mental dysfunction that prevents their brain from processing information in such a manner as to arrive at logical and rational conclusions therefore they seem unable to distinguish fantasy from reality. Facts mean nothing to liberals. They operate on feelings and emotions.
    They are killers of the unborn, soft on crime, supporters of reduced military protection for America, reckless spenders of other people’s money, lovers of big government, enemies of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights and big on name calling such as referring to supporters of the Constitution and Bill of Rights especially the 2nd amendment as illiterate right wingers. They have been indoctrinated by Socialists and Communists
    Liberals have a naive and almost childish trust of big government and exhibit a total disregard for the warnings issued by America’s founding fathers George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Patrick Henry and others. Liberals present a danger to the continuation of American freedom.

  • JamesWKing

    Mentally deranged individuals choose schools, churches, theaters, and other public meeting places where they assume no one to have a gun. They are deranged but still intelligent enough to choose undefended locations. All such locations need one or preferably more law abiding citizens familiar with guns and licensed to carry a concealed handgun. A pastor in Montana says 3/4 of the members of his church attend with concealed handguns. You can bet that no deranged individual will choose that church to commit murder by a mass shooting. I have been going to gun shows all over America since 1961 and there has never been a shooting or robbery in a gun show. A few accidental discharges have occurred.
    No law can prevent such crimes. Passing gun control laws make liberals “feel good” but are useless. Only a good person with a gun can stop a bad person with a gun.

  • JamesWKing

    History of Gun Control Around the World

    Here’s a little history lesson regarding gun-grabbing and the carnage that ensued: In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th century because of gun control: 56 million.

  • JamesWKing

    Liberals will preach the supposed virtues of gun control until the cows come home, but the proof is in the pudding. That is to say, what really happens to a country when they implement all the strict gun regulations that liberals love so much? Does it create the violence-free utopia they advertise so fervently?
    Unsurprisingly, the answer is a resounding NO.
    All you have to do is investigate the case study of El Salvador to see what happens when liberal gun control measures infringe citizens’ right to bear.
    El Salvador has the strictest gun control of nearly any country on the face of the planet, but can you guess what else they have the most of?
    Gun violence. El Salvador also happens to have the most gun violence.
    And coincidentally, El Salvador’s gun violence problem got especially bad after the country enacted the kind of overarching gun laws that liberals would love to bring to America.

  • JamesWKing

    The NRA is correct that the only way to prevent future tragedies is to place armed guards in every school in America. We in the NRA should have been unrelenting in efforts and demands for armed school guards over the past 30 years. Gun control and gun bans are ineffective failures just as illegal drug bans and laws are. Criminals and the mentally deranged simply do not obey laws. If the ownership and manufacture of all firearms were totally banned in America they would be smuggled in from foreign countries and available. Americans should have learned a lesson from the failure of prohibition of alcohol in the 1920’s.
    Many of the politicians and liberals who support draconian gun bans are men who profess to be supporters of women’s equality. Males are seldom victims of rape. The invention and development of firearms and especially handguns has furthered the equality of women more than any invention in the history of the human race. The handgun allows a woman to defend herself against larger and more powerful males. Many wealthy politicians who demand gun bans and refuse to issue carry permits to ordinary and poorer citizens are hypocrites who have armed body guards and ride in chauffeured cars.

  • JamesWKing

    America’s first president, George Washington, stated “Firearms are second in importance only to the Constitution-They deserve a place with all that is honorable”. President Thomas Jefferson understood that there is an “Evil Tendency” in government and said “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”. Benjamin Franklin said “Those who would give up freedom for the promise of safety will soon have and deserve neither”. Hitler told the German people “Give up your guns, we will make your streets safe and the world will follow our lead into the future”. Dictators always disarm citizens and reduce them to the status of subjects and then persecution begins.
    Some believe that only the government and police under their control should be allowed to own and carry firearms. But as America’s founding fathers noted, government cannot be trusted and must be held in check if tyranny is to be avoided. Power corrupts and absolute power absolutely corrupts. Were not the innocent children murdered at Waco Texas in 1993 by the U.S. government just as precious as those at the school in Connecticut? President Obama and Sec. of State Hillary Clinton support and have endorsed the UN plan to disarm all citizens worldwide.
    Firearms are used an estimated 2 to 2-1/2 million times each year in America to stop or prevent murder, assault, rape, theft, robbery, and other crimes. Yet the politicians and individuals who would disarm private citizens are quite ready and willing to return the human race to the dark days of the ancient past when the strong, the young, and the many controlled and violated the weak, the old, and the few.

  • JamesWKing

    What the anti-gun forces really want is to take all guns. Clinton’s Attorney General Janet Reno said in 1993 that, “Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.”
    Federal law requiring expanded background checks between family members and private citizens is a bad idea. Suppose you loan a gun to a son or neighbor to go dove or deer hunting. Now two otherwise law abiding citizens immediately become felons. Liberals seem unable to comprehend that background checks only affect law abiding citizens and criminals get guns on the black market just like drugs.
    The lack of gun violence in Japan cannot be primarily contributed to their ban on firearms ownership. Japan does not have multiculturalism and does not coddle criminals like America. Liberal mentality and not the NRA is responsible for gun violence in America.

  • JamesWKing

    Sen. Diane Feinstein said in 1995 that (concerning semi-autos, at a minimum) if she had had the votes, she would have said, “Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in.” Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer said, “Passing a law like the assault weapons ban is a symbolic — purely symbolic — move in that direction. Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation.”

    Banning semi-automatics is just the first step: the anti-gun radicals want to take them all. In Australia, they took the semi-automatics in 1996; now they are confiscating even bolt-action rifles. Expanding background checks to private sales will just assist them in identifying who has what in the event of an attempted forced confiscation from law-abiding citizens.
    Obama is trying to get America tied in to the UN Small Arms Treaty that would violate the 2nd amendment in the Bill of Rights and allow UN troops to come to America and assist with confiscation.

  • JamesWKing

    Have you ever wondered why Switzerland in World War II was not invaded like other European countries by Germany? Answer–Every household in Switzerland is required to possess and maintain a fully automatic firearm.
    Ever wonder why Japan in World War II decided not to invade mainland America?
    Answer–They knew most American homes had guns.

  • John Cokos

    They need to “lawyer up”. The School system has plenty of cash reserve from Risk Management. This is Agenda 21 Liberal BOE crap. They are ripe for a good dose of adverse publicity…

  • John Cokos

    Forced Psych Eval Is just a tactic used by the far left/ communist mentality that has corrupted the Educational system n New Jersey. It’s a battle for the minds of the young. They are cowards when push come to shove. Go after their money. The roaches will scatter.

    • Casey Bartnik

      Reminiscent of the way the old Soviet Union used to throw dissidents into mental institutions, and Mao and Pol Pot would “re-educate” people they did not feel like murdering immediately. Liberalism is just another branch of the same noxious tree that gives us Fascism, Bolshevism, and the various forms of Socialism.

  • Larry Morrison

    Reason # 254 as to why Public School is just a bad idea for your kids….

  • Delores Newman

    It is time to remove all that are trained in this communist styled government. No one is exempt.

  • alistz

    I think you have to cut the school district slack in this case because it becomes a liability issue. They are creating a chain of evidence that they took action against this kid, which protects them if he did in fact go Columbine at a later time. I’m sure that that is simply sound legal advice.

  • meanwhile “clockmed” gets a visit to the WH

  • Casey Bartnik

    More liberal fascism–and they wonder why more people are home-schooling their kids! Same thing happened to a young friend of mine in the northern suburbs of Chicago when he was using a school computer to research a paper on gun control. He found himself called to the principal’s office, where 2 police officers were waiting to interrogate him about any violent impulses he might be harboring! My friend later completed 2 tours of duty in Afghanistan as a USMC scout-sniper. More and more reasons to vote Trump!!!

  • Casey Bartnik

    If it weren’t for the 2nd Amendment and the 350 million-some guns people own on this continent, these tyrants would have obliterated the Bill of Rights decades ago.

  • oahumike

    He should have done a report on micro aggression and safe spaces.

  • 30yrfed

    http://manvilleschools.org/Page/175

    Manville HS Board of Ed e-mail addresses.. drop em a note..

  • Paul

    File a lawsuit asap.

  • BWJ

    It’s indoctrination, not education these days.

  • Caligula

    Of course he would have had a glorious congratulations from the school if his project had been on why he won’t stand for the national anthem and how racist, sexist, misogynist, and xenophobic our nation is. Nobody would have questioned his motives, intentions, or sanity. We live in an upside down world.

  • wandamurline

    Well, me sees a good old fashioned law suit against the school and the teacher individually for constitutional rights violation.

  • Red47 #nevermind

    This is a month old. Still, I am expressing my view that every “educator” who is involved with this needs to be fired or sent to a series of classes on what an educator actually is.
    This is so unbelievably stupid that these people shouldn’t be in positions of power anywhere.