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If the Terrorists “Hated Our Freedom,” then They Won — 5 Ways Americans Lost Freedom After 9/11

“They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.”

-George W. Bush addresses the nation on September 20, 2001 — 9 Days after the attacks

 

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Those of us who are old enough to remember a time before 9/11 can recall “the good old days” before the police state was ramped up to the militaristic control grid that it is today.

We remember a time before fear became the only thing that your television fed you. Sure, the propaganda machine and the war machine has existed long before 9/11, but since that fateful day, the fear peddlers and the tyrants have cranked it up a notch – or ten.

Freedom diminishing step one: The TSA

Prior to 9/11, no one heard of the Transportation Security Administration because they didn’t exist. The TSA was created as a reactionary security measure to hijackers sneaking box-cutters onto planes. It has since morphed into a vile organization of total domination, degradation, theft, and molestation.

If you think taking your shoes off at the airport makes you safer, you need to read more history.

Freedom diminishing step two: The NSA

Having worked directly under the NSA for several years prior to the attacks on 9/11, I can tell you that spying on Americans was not only frowned upon by our superiors, but it was a chargeable offense. During my years as an Intelligence Communications Intercept Operator, we were told that if we came across “friendly chatter,” we move on, or we go to jail.

However, since 9/11, the NSA has conducted an about face. The restrictions that kept myself and my team from spying on Americans were lifted. The tenticles of this police state leviathan quickly spread their way into every facet of American life. We wouldn’t find out until several years later that all of our private data has been, and forever will be, subject to the prying eyes of the state.

Freedom diminishing step three: Perpetual War

The attacks on the world trade centers ushered in a new means of the state to spread its empire. A new and vaguely defined ‘enemy’ had been declared and its name was terrorism. 

“Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists,” George Bush ironically said immediately after saying the terrorists “hate us…because we can disagree with each other.”

Literally overnight, the entire world was declared an enemy of the United States unless they prostrated themselves and declared their unwavering support for the US empire.

This notion gave birth to the state’s ability to declare a perpetual war. The war on the ‘tactic’ of terrorism would give way to an unlimited expansion of police state powers, and the state knew it. Bush would even state this idea in his speech. Later in the same September 20th speech, Bush would declare that the war “will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated.” In the same speech, he later said that this war is “a task that does not end.”

Despite both Obama and Bush declaring the wars a success and having ended, nothing could be further from the truth. Since 9/11 secret US prisons popped up where unspeakable acts of torture continue to this day. Millions of innocent civilians have been slain and continue to be slain. Countless children have been blown to bits by American’s spreading democracy with hellfire missiles.

All the while, the average American sticks their yellow ribbon magnet to their vehicles and unquestioningly continues life as normal.

Freedom diminishing step four: The Militarization of Police

Along with perpetual war comes the perpetual lobbying of defense contractors for bigger and better ways to kill people.

“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist,” Dwight D. Eisenhower famously said in his 1961 farewell speech. He couldn’t have been more right.

As taxpayer dollars go to buying newer and nicer tools of death, these older tools of death need a new home.

Conveniently enough, the government had a program in place since 1997, which allowed for the old tools of war to come home and be used against the American people. It was called the 1033 program.

Within just a few short years, thousands of police departments across the country were issued mine resistant vehicles, amphibious assault vehicles, grenade launchers, countless high-powered machine guns, and even apache attack choppers.

All of this military gear, we are told, is to keep us safe.

Freedom diminishing step five: The End of Free Speech

As governments throughout history have attempted to spread their empire across the globe, a side effect is the creation of a police state at home. The United States is no exception, and as the police state grows, so does resistance to it.

This resistance becomes a thorn in the side of tyrants and they will do everything in their power to silence it.

Since 9/11, America has entered a Post-Constitutional era of “Free Speech Zones,” riot police with sound cannons blasting down peaceful dissenters, and worse.

Newly adopted Department of Defense guidelines will allow military commanders to “punish journalists” and treat them as “unprivileged belligerents.” The doctrine allows for the stripping of due process and reporters who are deemed “belligerent” could be carted off to Gitmo and never heard from again, or killed.

But all hope is not lost.

Freedom regaining step one: Be the Change

Sadly enough, this counterfeit version of the “Land of the Free” is now the new normal. The next generation’s benchmark for “Freedom” will be journalists being snatched up in the streets, and cops publicly executing citizens and not being charged.

The dystopian future that Americans are now taking part in creating is an ominous reality.

However, to those of us who see the entire picture and remember a time when it wasn’t okay for the blue gloves at the TSA to prod your anus in the name of freedom, we remain resilient.

So, next time your chest begins to fill with patriotic puff, stop for a second and realize that Americans are not free anymore. America is becoming the evil that it once stood against.

In the meantime, however, we still have the freedom in this country to inform ourselves and others. Only through a lesser ignorance will these horrid tyrannical traits subside.

Humanity is involved in a struggle, as we have always been, but there are much more of us now. Inciting peaceful change has never been more important. However, so many well-meaning individuals go about inciting this change with blunt force. This has to change.

If you truly want to make the world a more peaceful place, you have to become a more peaceful person. Petty infighting, personal attacks, vitriol, and hate are the tools of tyrants and also of those who only claim to be awake.

Peace is true professionalism.

Next time you’re cringing in a public setting, listening to Joe Six Pack spout off NFL stats like an ESPN commentator, wait for an opportune time and plant a seed.

“Hey Joe, speaking of the Kansas City Chiefs, what do you think of wide receiver, Dwayne Bowe and his arrest for having weed? Do you think its cool that he was deprived of his freedom for having a plant? How can we legitimately call this country the land of the free when that can happen to someone?”

Be the change that you want to see in this world.


Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world.

  • Its NOT our freedom they hate. that is US government propaganda. Nothing more!!!! When we invade their countries and bomb their cities and kill their families we create small local militias that rise up to try and stop us. Its normal. Imagine if a foreign country started bringing armies to our soil. Bombing us killing our people to catch a few bad guys. What do you think would happen. We would rise up, form militais and attack back any way we could. They dont hate our damn freedom. They hate our arrogance and military might that is crushing their country, friends, and families. Put the koolaid down America and wake up!

    • I almost hate to see that happen. It will just make police more deadly. At the same time something really needs to be done about police violence here too and if a militia is what it takes, so be it.

    • No it wouldn’t, it would be surprising though with the amount of apathy people seem to have currently.

    • I’m pretty sure killing people is the least of their gripes. It’s not like they don’t indulge in plenty of that themselves, even with their own country people.

    • Actually, before they do what you mention in your post, they create new borders for the country, install its leaders and prop them up for years and years with jack-booted thugs (internal security) when the ppl of that country don’t like or want them. That perfectly describes US actions in Iran, prior to their revolution and hostage taking for 400+ days (that most ppl in the US use for an excuse to extremely dislike the current Iranian gov’t).

    • Totally agree with you !

    • No we would round up the murderers and hand them over
      It’s done all the time. Unlike stuff u pull out your ass and put on FB.

    • No they need to put the cool aid down and exterminate those punks murdering innocent children on purpose.
      They will never have peace until they stop this. But there kinda stupid because unlike the civilized world they have been in a continuous war since time began.
      Of course can’t blame the rest of the world that’s a cop out. They were killing each other way before we came along. There state lines were continuously moved because of war after war. I do agree that if they were left alone they would have killed each other off by now and we wouldn’t have this problem.

    • Are you serious ? You should do a fact check on how many years your beloved US of A have been at war since it’s creation. While you’re at it, check out how many Americans have been murdered by your own police force compared to Muslim terrorists. If you need help I can post links, but I’m giving your intelligence the benefit of the doubt, in spite of myself.

  • Its NOT our freedom they hate. that is US government propaganda. Nothing more!!!! When we invade their countries and bomb their cities and kill their families we create small local militias that rise up to try and stop us. Its normal. Imagine if a foreign country started bringing armies to our soil. Bombing us killing our people to catch a few bad guys. What do you think would happen. We would rise up, form militais and attack back any way we could. They dont hate our damn freedom. They hate our arrogance and military might that is crushing their country, friends, and families. Put the koolaid down America and wake up!

    • I almost hate to see that happen. It will just make police more deadly. At the same time something really needs to be done about police violence here too and if a militia is what it takes, so be it.

    • No it wouldn’t, it would be surprising though with the amount of apathy people seem to have currently.

    • I’m pretty sure killing people is the least of their gripes. It’s not like they don’t indulge in plenty of that themselves, even with their own country people.

    • Actually, before they do what you mention in your post, they create new borders for the country, install its leaders and prop them up for years and years with jack-booted thugs (internal security) when the ppl of that country don’t like or want them. That perfectly describes US actions in Iran, prior to their revolution and hostage taking for 400+ days (that most ppl in the US use for an excuse to extremely dislike the current Iranian gov’t).

    • Totally agree with you !

    • No we would round up the murderers and hand them over
      It’s done all the time. Unlike stuff u pull out your ass and put on FB.

    • No they need to put the cool aid down and exterminate those punks murdering innocent children on purpose.
      They will never have peace until they stop this. But there kinda stupid because unlike the civilized world they have been in a continuous war since time began.
      Of course can’t blame the rest of the world that’s a cop out. They were killing each other way before we came along. There state lines were continuously moved because of war after war. I do agree that if they were left alone they would have killed each other off by now and we wouldn’t have this problem.

    • Are you serious ? You should do a fact check on how many years your beloved US of A have been at war since it’s creation. While you’re at it, check out how many Americans have been murdered by your own police force compared to Muslim terrorists. If you need help I can post links, but I’m giving your intelligence the benefit of the doubt, in spite of myself.

  • When our so-called leaders speak of “protecting our freedoms” they really mean protecting the freedom of the Military industrial Congressional Complex to rape the world.

  • When our so-called leaders speak of “protecting our freedoms” they really mean protecting the freedom of the Military industrial Congressional Complex to rape the world.

  • Take the time every day to be thankful for everything that you have. You can always have more, but you could also have less.

  • Take the time every day to be thankful for everything that you have. You can always have more, but you could also have less.

  • The ruling elites feed on people’s fear. People’s apathy and fear is the source of their strength. That’s why they manufacture the fear they claim to protect people from. It’s obvious now that the terrorists(fictitious enemies) and the elites representing the “free” world are on the same team. What we see on TV is just an act or show for the public but a business for them. War is just a racket. Islamic terrorism is a myth that has been advertised and sold over and over to make money off wars and also to impose more control on the masses with fewer and fewer rights. The elites have the money and power to label others as terrorists because they are the terrorist themselves but the voiceless people who are labeled are actually the terrorized ones.

    • for over a thousand years since the first crusades this elite, wealthy group, though some of the names have changed, have had the same objective. Hoard the wealth and limit/Control the masses. They’ve used religion/philosophy/mythology and fear. Call them illuminati or whatever, I call them the banking/Military-Ind/Energy, THE STATE. All the same. Abolish the State and live free

    • That’s what terrorist want us to believe. Then they will have little resistance.
      The Bush family got rich selling Hitler gas for the Jews. Does that mean Hitler was a myth ?

    • ^^ idiotic comparison…

  • The ruling elites feed on people’s fear. People’s apathy and fear is the source of their strength. That’s why they manufacture the fear they claim to protect people from. It’s obvious now that the terrorists(fictitious enemies) and the elites representing the “free” world are on the same team. What we see on TV is just an act or show for the public but a business for them. War is just a racket. Islamic terrorism is a myth that has been advertised and sold over and over to make money off wars and also to impose more control on the masses with fewer and fewer rights. The elites have the money and power to label others as terrorists because they are the terrorist themselves but the voiceless people who are labeled are actually the terrorized ones.

    • for over a thousand years since the first crusades this elite, wealthy group, though some of the names have changed, have had the same objective. Hoard the wealth and limit/Control the masses. They’ve used religion/philosophy/mythology and fear. Call them illuminati or whatever, I call them the banking/Military-Ind/Energy, THE STATE. All the same. Abolish the State and live free

    • That’s what terrorist want us to believe. Then they will have little resistance.
      The Bush family got rich selling Hitler gas for the Jews. Does that mean Hitler was a myth ?

    • ^^ idiotic comparison…

  • its not only our freedom, they are envious, of our our hard work and freedom this envy poison their thinking, poisons their children’s thinking.

  • its not only our freedom, they are envious, of our our hard work and freedom this envy poison their thinking, poisons their children’s thinking.

  • There is no world terror, just government controlled by alphabet gangs and terrorist bankers!

  • There is no world terror, just government controlled by alphabet gangs and terrorist bankers!

  • It’s the governments that hate our freedom so they brought forth ISIS and the tale of terrorism to do the job for them and put the blame on.

  • It’s the governments that hate our freedom so they brought forth ISIS and the tale of terrorism to do the job for them and put the blame on.

  • I think more than freedom they hate our Bombers,,,our Drones,,,,our Mujahideen, ,,,,Our Freedom Fighters. .

  • I think more than freedom they hate our Bombers,,,our Drones,,,,our Mujahideen, ,,,,Our Freedom Fighters. .

  • I’ve been saying that the terrorists have won when airport security went crazy 15 years ago.

    • True. I don’t fly anymore, unless it’s for skydiving.

  • I’ve been saying that the terrorists have won when airport security went crazy 15 years ago.

    • True. I don’t fly anymore, unless it’s for skydiving.

  • They hate us mainly because we are not muslims…and that ain’t gonna go away til THEY do.

  • They hate us mainly because we are not muslims…and that ain’t gonna go away til THEY do.

  • All the previous comments have a ringing of truth. Happy New Year,, vote democrat, live and be happy, 2016 will make the difference for America. People like Trump and Cruz want to be in control, bu can’t handle what little they have. Rubio thinks he knows it all, he hasn’t lived enough to understand the needs of the people, let alone the world. Be very careful who you vote for.

    • Vote democrat? Why? So they can stop the wars like Obama did? Bwahahahahhaha!

    • T Serenity McCloskey You obviously have not lost family or friends in these last two wars or any previous wars. War is the not the way to have peace. Why don’t you join the military and go fight the war that you want. Obama has tried to to bring peace to the globe, ISIS is a group not a country, they are racketeers like the cartel, oil control for the entire globe, why do you think Russia is getting in on this. They control the oil in Europe. They don’t want to lose that control. Get educated.

  • All the previous comments have a ringing of truth. Happy New Year,, vote democrat, live and be happy, 2016 will make the difference for America. People like Trump and Cruz want to be in control, bu can’t handle what little they have. Rubio thinks he knows it all, he hasn’t lived enough to understand the needs of the people, let alone the world. Be very careful who you vote for.

    • Vote democrat? Why? So they can stop the wars like Obama did? Bwahahahahhaha!

    • T Serenity McCloskey You obviously have not lost family or friends in these last two wars or any previous wars. War is the not the way to have peace. Why don’t you join the military and go fight the war that you want. Obama has tried to to bring peace to the globe, ISIS is a group not a country, they are racketeers like the cartel, oil control for the entire globe, why do you think Russia is getting in on this. They control the oil in Europe. They don’t want to lose that control. Get educated.

  • “They” hate us because we dehumanize and exploit them. Drive them from their homes, murder millions of people for oil etc. To even put up 9/11 in the context of terrorism is absolutely stupid, as the US government was the biggest part of that with help from Israel and Saudi. We are the terrorist assholes.

  • “They” hate us because we dehumanize and exploit them. Drive them from their homes, murder millions of people for oil etc. To even put up 9/11 in the context of terrorism is absolutely stupid, as the US government was the biggest part of that with help from Israel and Saudi. We are the terrorist assholes.

  • Western civilization and their cohorts are completely run by Luciferians who worship dark energy and are explicitly involved in the encouragement of summoning dark energy through the Ritualistic abuse of people. This includes gang raping children, sacrificing babies, small children and adults etc, all of these activities are their way of feeling an exhilaration on a spiritual level. They experience a feeling of exhilaration by conducting very evil acts upon innocence. These were ancient practices that have been kept hidden as the average human would automatically reject it as most of us are naturally inclined to be good.

    This behavior has to be indoctrinated into the human, it is entirely unnatural. This goes all the way back to the philosophies of Lucifer or Satan who is the negative dark energy that creates lifeless zones in the creation, this energy directly challenges God by deliberately bringing suffering into his creation. The Leaders of western civilization embrace this as their religious spirituality that at this point in time is a requirement to join the ranks of the upper upper class. ALL people of political influence in the west are members of these secret societies and only when they threaten to leave do they then get threatened to be exposed as a pedophile etc. They ALL are in on it. The ENTIRE HEAD of western civilization is SICK AS SICK can be…

    This was why the prophets warned us that when Jesus is revealed the Devil will know he is caught out and it is at the height of his power so he is FURIOUS and it is a very scary moment in human history due to the strength of his system that is starting to fall apart right in front of him. In fact we are informed that under this situation with the Devil so powerful and the fact that his system is now in a state of total collapse because of the Revelation of Jesus Christ and the truth, which the Devil is desperately trying to hide.. many people are getting captured and killed as they scramble to survive the second coming of Jesus Christ…BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO ENDURE UNTIL THE END!

    William Malcolm Poth

  • Western civilization and their cohorts are completely run by Luciferians who worship dark energy and are explicitly involved in the encouragement of summoning dark energy through the Ritualistic abuse of people. This includes gang raping children, sacrificing babies, small children and adults etc, all of these activities are their way of feeling an exhilaration on a spiritual level. They experience a feeling of exhilaration by conducting very evil acts upon innocence. These were ancient practices that have been kept hidden as the average human would automatically reject it as most of us are naturally inclined to be good.

    This behavior has to be indoctrinated into the human, it is entirely unnatural. This goes all the way back to the philosophies of Lucifer or Satan who is the negative dark energy that creates lifeless zones in the creation, this energy directly challenges God by deliberately bringing suffering into his creation. The Leaders of western civilization embrace this as their religious spirituality that at this point in time is a requirement to join the ranks of the upper upper class. ALL people of political influence in the west are members of these secret societies and only when they threaten to leave do they then get threatened to be exposed as a pedophile etc. They ALL are in on it. The ENTIRE HEAD of western civilization is SICK AS SICK can be…

    This was why the prophets warned us that when Jesus is revealed the Devil will know he is caught out and it is at the height of his power so he is FURIOUS and it is a very scary moment in human history due to the strength of his system that is starting to fall apart right in front of him. In fact we are informed that under this situation with the Devil so powerful and the fact that his system is now in a state of total collapse because of the Revelation of Jesus Christ and the truth, which the Devil is desperately trying to hide.. many people are getting captured and killed as they scramble to survive the second coming of Jesus Christ…BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO ENDURE UNTIL THE END!

    William Malcolm Poth

  • It’s not our freedom they hate – it’s their freedom WE hate. Think about it.

  • It’s not our freedom they hate – it’s their freedom WE hate. Think about it.

  • If by “they” you mean “authoritarians”, then “they” are winning. And “they” will continue to win as long as people remain passively ignorant as to who “they” are.

  • If by “they” you mean “authoritarians”, then “they” are winning. And “they” will continue to win as long as people remain passively ignorant as to who “they” are.

  • How to defeat terrorism… STOP BEING AFRAID!

  • How to defeat terrorism… STOP BEING AFRAID!

  • Looks like the cops already won and we didn’t even see it coming.

  • Looks like the cops already won and we didn’t even see it coming.

  • The essential cowardice of the American people in the face of a single attack on our soil, allowed for the nullification of most of our constitutional rights. We now have a number of privileges granted us as long as we don’t really try to use them.

  • The essential cowardice of the American people in the face of a single attack on our soil, allowed for the nullification of most of our constitutional rights. We now have a number of privileges granted us as long as we don’t really try to use them.

  • “They hate our freedom” was a polite way of saying they hate that our women don’t cover up and that they drive; that we don’t push homosexuals off bridges or cliffs or buildings; that we drink; that we watch tv; that we think and act like nothing is sacred including “the prophet”; and on and on. There is nothing that would make them happy about us, any of us.

  • “They hate our freedom” was a polite way of saying they hate that our women don’t cover up and that they drive; that we don’t push homosexuals off bridges or cliffs or buildings; that we drink; that we watch tv; that we think and act like nothing is sacred including “the prophet”; and on and on. There is nothing that would make them happy about us, any of us.

  • They FAIL to keep their Champaign promises..
    GO DON GO!

  • They FAIL to keep their Champaign promises..
    GO DON GO!

  • “They hate us for our freedom” and the whole “they’re fighting for our freedom” reasoning is the speak of ignorance at it’s most delusional state of patriotism.

  • “They hate us for our freedom” and the whole “they’re fighting for our freedom” reasoning is the speak of ignorance at it’s most delusional state of patriotism.

  • The great big CIA and the rich milliners has won

  • The great big CIA and the rich milliners has won

  • Finally a decent article not conspiracy shit.

  • Finally a decent article not conspiracy shit.

  • The terrorists :-/

  • The terrorists :-/

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  • Fbk doesn’t want to let me post this.. Help

  • Our government and other western governments, neocons……

  • Our government and other western governments, neocons……

  • Good point. The marines could clean up ISIS in a month ..just use WWll roes

  • Good point. The marines could clean up ISIS in a month ..just use WWll roes

  • iraqs invasion is a poor judgement it makes more hatred for going into a place where all u wanted is oil and no proof of wmd

  • iraqs invasion is a poor judgement it makes more hatred for going into a place where all u wanted is oil and no proof of wmd

  • Al Jazeera America of American News

  • Al Jazeera America of American News

  • People are too busy believing in UFOS,monsters and bad muslims to actually wake up and think for themselves.In 9/11 their own gov took their freedom.Since then people live in a Police State where the only law is that of the guys dressed in black and carrying a gun.

  • People are too busy believing in UFOS,monsters and bad muslims to actually wake up and think for themselves.In 9/11 their own gov took their freedom.Since then people live in a Police State where the only law is that of the guys dressed in black and carrying a gun.

  • Terrorisim 101

  • Terrorisim 101

  • Define “they” and give it some thought.

  • Define “they” and give it some thought.

  • Government be like,pay us ,because we need protection against you payers!haha…

  • Government be like,pay us ,because we need protection against you payers!haha…

  • stop voting republican

  • stop voting republican

  • We were never ‘free’ just very, very brainwashed. Funny how we can look at North Koreans (for example) and what they were trained as children to recite / believe and not realize that ours is just another version. Oh, of course, the RIGHT ‘version.’

  • We were never ‘free’ just very, very brainwashed. Funny how we can look at North Koreans (for example) and what they were trained as children to recite / believe and not realize that ours is just another version. Oh, of course, the RIGHT ‘version.’

  • I completely agree with this statement.

  • I completely agree with this statement.

  • Terrorists are the US, we all know that. All propaganda, lies and manipulation. The pricks. The NWO is taking shape. Good luck to us. *the good of world is threatened.

  • Terrorists are the US, we all know that. All propaganda, lies and manipulation. The pricks. The NWO is taking shape. Good luck to us. *the good of world is threatened.

  • Bush said the terrorists hate your freedom. The terrorists were in the White House. 911 is conclusively an inside job pulled off by Bush cronies. The White House is winning.

  • Bush said the terrorists hate your freedom. The terrorists were in the White House. 911 is conclusively an inside job pulled off by Bush cronies. The White House is winning.

  • Were they ever free…hardly. Incarceration to mindless sensualism as humanity’s highest ideal in the secular age is a prison of the mind

  • Were they ever free…hardly. Incarceration to mindless sensualism as humanity’s highest ideal in the secular age is a prison of the mind

  • Who EVER said or even thought that they hate our “freedom?” It is because we are OVER THERE – invading, policing, manipulating, bullying, exploiting them and destroying their country, killing millions of their people ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

  • Who EVER said or even thought that they hate our “freedom?” It is because we are OVER THERE – invading, policing, manipulating, bullying, exploiting them and destroying their country, killing millions of their people ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

  • I miss the freedom I had when I lived in South Korea. Drinking in parks and not worrying about police… ah, good times. No freedom in the USA.

    But seriously, they hate us because we bomb them.

    Quick: how many countries is the US bombing RIGHT NOW? Can you name them all?

  • I miss the freedom I had when I lived in South Korea. Drinking in parks and not worrying about police… ah, good times. No freedom in the USA.

    But seriously, they hate us because we bomb them.

    Quick: how many countries is the US bombing RIGHT NOW? Can you name them all?

  • The U.S. Government can FUCK OFF

  • The U.S. Government can FUCK OFF

  • Alot of people with power hate freedom.

    • All people with power hates freedom……

  • Alot of people with power hate freedom.

    • All people with power hates freedom……

  • This also applies to the rest of the five eyes members.

  • This also applies to the rest of the five eyes members.

  • Let it sink in that this was all planned by Bush Cheney and Saudies so they can stay billion airs. none the above mention would hesitate to have you killed for a buck.

  • Let it sink in that this was all planned by Bush Cheney and Saudies so they can stay billion airs. none the above mention would hesitate to have you killed for a buck.

  • What freedom?

  • What freedom?

  • Sick of the BS going on?? A free world is waiting for those in need. The technology is here now to supply the necessities we need to survive, we only have to create this free world. Out with the old and in with the new. Its time for change. Join this group to be part of the change>https://www.facebook.com/groups/265603456982790/

  • Sick of the BS going on?? A free world is waiting for those in need. The technology is here now to supply the necessities we need to survive, we only have to create this free world. Out with the old and in with the new. Its time for change. Join this group to be part of the change>https://www.facebook.com/groups/265603456982790/

  • They have scared us retarded.

    And before you get all crazy with the word retarded, please look it up.

  • They have scared us retarded.

    And before you get all crazy with the word retarded, please look it up.

  • sounds like a goverment plot like 9/11.What a way to unite a country to send us to war.WE even invaded the wrong country there were no Irag nationals they all come from saudiarabia even bin laudin. So people we were sold a bill of goods to allow haliburton Chaney to fleese our social secuity that tey robber to pay for some of it but not all..this worked so well it was wallstreets turn,they took the tax payers to the cleaners too, the fat cats cry at the thouht of tax increases,that because they paid their money up front to the tax lawyers and politicans It is not that they hateour freedoms its that they hate our goverment and frankly we sould too .

  • sounds like a goverment plot like 9/11.What a way to unite a country to send us to war.WE even invaded the wrong country there were no Irag nationals they all come from saudiarabia even bin laudin. So people we were sold a bill of goods to allow haliburton Chaney to fleese our social secuity that tey robber to pay for some of it but not all..this worked so well it was wallstreets turn,they took the tax payers to the cleaners too, the fat cats cry at the thouht of tax increases,that because they paid their money up front to the tax lawyers and politicans It is not that they hateour freedoms its that they hate our goverment and frankly we sould too .

  • oil oil oil, money money money, game of thrones, politics, the end.

  • oil oil oil, money money money, game of thrones, politics, the end.

  • In highly cited study: Harvard Medical Scientists Say Police Killings Should Be Counted as Public Health Epidemic

    It is startling that we, in the US, must rely on a UK newspaper for systematic timely counts of the number of persons killed by the police. After all, we have a world-class public health system that reports, nationally, in real-time, on numerous notifiable diseases and also on deaths occurring in 122 cities with populations >100,000

    A Public Health Solution: Make Law-Enforcement–Related Deaths a Notifiable Condition

    The summary of points is as follows:

    • During the past year, the United States has experienced major controversies—and civil unrest—regarding the endemic problem of police violence and police deaths.

    • Although deaths of police officers are well documented, no reliable official US data exist on the number of persons killed by the police, in part because of long-standing and well-documented resistance of police departments to making these data public.

    • These deaths, however, are countable, as evidenced by “The Counted,” a website launched on June 1, 2015, by the newspaper The Guardian, published in the United Kingdom, which quickly revealed that by June 9, 2015, over 500 people in the US had been killed by the police since January 1, 2015, twice what would be expected based on estimates from the US Federal Bureau of Intelligence (FBI).

    • Law-enforcement–related deaths, of both persons killed by law enforcement agents and also law enforcement agents killed in the line of duty, are a public health concern, not solely a criminal justice concern, since these events involve mortality and affect the well-being of the families and communities of the deceased; therefore, law-enforcement–related deaths are public health data, not solely criminal justice data.

    • We propose that law-enforcement–related deaths be treated as a notifiable condition, which would allow public health departments to report these data in real-time, at the local as well as national level, thereby providing data needed to understand and prevent the problem.

    http://livingresistance.com/2015/12/28/harvard-medical-scientists-say-police-killings-should-be-counted-as-public-health-epidemic/

  • In highly cited study: Harvard Medical Scientists Say Police Killings Should Be Counted as Public Health Epidemic

    It is startling that we, in the US, must rely on a UK newspaper for systematic timely counts of the number of persons killed by the police. After all, we have a world-class public health system that reports, nationally, in real-time, on numerous notifiable diseases and also on deaths occurring in 122 cities with populations >100,000

    A Public Health Solution: Make Law-Enforcement–Related Deaths a Notifiable Condition

    The summary of points is as follows:

    • During the past year, the United States has experienced major controversies—and civil unrest—regarding the endemic problem of police violence and police deaths.

    • Although deaths of police officers are well documented, no reliable official US data exist on the number of persons killed by the police, in part because of long-standing and well-documented resistance of police departments to making these data public.

    • These deaths, however, are countable, as evidenced by “The Counted,” a website launched on June 1, 2015, by the newspaper The Guardian, published in the United Kingdom, which quickly revealed that by June 9, 2015, over 500 people in the US had been killed by the police since January 1, 2015, twice what would be expected based on estimates from the US Federal Bureau of Intelligence (FBI).

    • Law-enforcement–related deaths, of both persons killed by law enforcement agents and also law enforcement agents killed in the line of duty, are a public health concern, not solely a criminal justice concern, since these events involve mortality and affect the well-being of the families and communities of the deceased; therefore, law-enforcement–related deaths are public health data, not solely criminal justice data.

    • We propose that law-enforcement–related deaths be treated as a notifiable condition, which would allow public health departments to report these data in real-time, at the local as well as national level, thereby providing data needed to understand and prevent the problem.

    http://livingresistance.com/2015/12/28/harvard-medical-scientists-say-police-killings-should-be-counted-as-public-health-epidemic/

  • Police in the US Kill Citizens at Over 70 Times the Rate of Other First World Nations

    In case you’ve been under a rock lately, it is becoming quite clear that police in the US can and will kill people, even unarmed people, even on video, and do so with impunity.

    The tallying methods, or rather lack thereof, used by both the FBI and individual police departments to count the amount of people killed by police, have been shown to be staggeringly inaccurate.

    However, this inability of the government to count the number of people it kills, has been met with multiple alternative means of calculating just how deadly the state actually is.

    One of these citizen run databases, is the website http://www.killedbypolice.com. The site is basically a spreadsheet that lists every person killed by cops in the years 2013 and 2014. In addition to naming those killed, it also provides a link to media reports for each of the killings, age, sex and race if available.

    As a comparison, the total number of US troops killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, in 2014 was 58.

    Is this some natural tendency of police in “free societies” to kill their citizens more, in an effort to maintain this freedom? Hardly, and hardly is the US a free country.

    According to the 2014 Legatum Prosperity Index released in November, in the measure of personal freedom, the United States has fallen from 9th place in 2010 to 21st worldwide—behind such countries as Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany, Uruguay and Costa Rica.

    Other such rankings systems show the US as low as 46.
    China, whose population is 4 and 1/2 times the size of the United States, recorded 12 killings by law enforcement officers in 2014.
    Let that sink in. Law enforcement in the US killed 92 times more people than a country with nearly 1.4 billion people.
    It doesn’t stop there.

    From 2013-2014, German police killed absolutely no one.

    In the entire history of Iceland police, they have only killed 1 person ever. After exhausting all non-lethal methods to detain an armed man barricaded in his house who actually shot 2 police officers, police were forced to take the 59-year-old man’s life. The country of Iceland grieved for weeks after having to resort to violence.

    America imprisons almost 30% of all people imprisoned in the world, although containing only about 4% of the worlds population, an extremely disproportionate share of people imprisoned globally.

    The U.S. houses 2.3 million inmates, while China, a country with four times the population of the U.S., is a distant second with 1.6 million prisoners.

    What we are calling the militarization of police has already taken place, on a large scale. We are now seeing a domestic military, pretending to be a police force.

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/

  • Police in the US Kill Citizens at Over 70 Times the Rate of Other First World Nations

    In case you’ve been under a rock lately, it is becoming quite clear that police in the US can and will kill people, even unarmed people, even on video, and do so with impunity.

    The tallying methods, or rather lack thereof, used by both the FBI and individual police departments to count the amount of people killed by police, have been shown to be staggeringly inaccurate.

    However, this inability of the government to count the number of people it kills, has been met with multiple alternative means of calculating just how deadly the state actually is.

    One of these citizen run databases, is the website http://www.killedbypolice.com. The site is basically a spreadsheet that lists every person killed by cops in the years 2013 and 2014. In addition to naming those killed, it also provides a link to media reports for each of the killings, age, sex and race if available.

    As a comparison, the total number of US troops killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, in 2014 was 58.

    Is this some natural tendency of police in “free societies” to kill their citizens more, in an effort to maintain this freedom? Hardly, and hardly is the US a free country.

    According to the 2014 Legatum Prosperity Index released in November, in the measure of personal freedom, the United States has fallen from 9th place in 2010 to 21st worldwide—behind such countries as Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany, Uruguay and Costa Rica.

    Other such rankings systems show the US as low as 46.
    China, whose population is 4 and 1/2 times the size of the United States, recorded 12 killings by law enforcement officers in 2014.
    Let that sink in. Law enforcement in the US killed 92 times more people than a country with nearly 1.4 billion people.
    It doesn’t stop there.

    From 2013-2014, German police killed absolutely no one.

    In the entire history of Iceland police, they have only killed 1 person ever. After exhausting all non-lethal methods to detain an armed man barricaded in his house who actually shot 2 police officers, police were forced to take the 59-year-old man’s life. The country of Iceland grieved for weeks after having to resort to violence.

    America imprisons almost 30% of all people imprisoned in the world, although containing only about 4% of the worlds population, an extremely disproportionate share of people imprisoned globally.

    The U.S. houses 2.3 million inmates, while China, a country with four times the population of the U.S., is a distant second with 1.6 million prisoners.

    What we are calling the militarization of police has already taken place, on a large scale. We are now seeing a domestic military, pretending to be a police force.

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/

  • Ive been saying this all along … im quite worried abut the future of my children and their quality of life and freedom …,

  • Ive been saying this all along … im quite worried abut the future of my children and their quality of life and freedom …,

  • yep our freedom’s gone that’s why we can’t post our opinions on a public forum…. wait…..

  • yep our freedom’s gone that’s why we can’t post our opinions on a public forum…. wait…..

  • They are.

  • They are.

  • What could a terrorist possibly hate about our everyday big brother lives. Great point.

  • What could a terrorist possibly hate about our everyday big brother lives. Great point.

  • Freedom does not exist within an organised society. One who is free can resign. Can you?

  • Freedom does not exist within an organised society. One who is free can resign. Can you?

  • We need more minds on our side! Hit the ‘Like’ button, comment (even 2 words) and share this, you are helping us reach more people! (y)

  • We need more minds on our side! Hit the ‘Like’ button, comment (even 2 words) and share this, you are helping us reach more people! (y)

  • Pull it

    • That “Lucky” Larry sure is lucky isn’t he.

    • Larry lots many billions of dollars, if losing billions is your idea of “lucky” then sure. “Pull it” as in he was talking to the chief firefighter, the chief told Larry he (the chief) was going to “pull it” as in pull the firefighters out of the building and then “THEY” decided to pull it (pull out) and thats what they did then we watched the building fall.

  • Pull it

    • That “Lucky” Larry sure is lucky isn’t he.

    • Larry lots many billions of dollars, if losing billions is your idea of “lucky” then sure. “Pull it” as in he was talking to the chief firefighter, the chief told Larry he (the chief) was going to “pull it” as in pull the firefighters out of the building and then “THEY” decided to pull it (pull out) and thats what they did then we watched the building fall.

  • It’s all an Inside job. Perpataraited by the Federal Reserve Nazi’s to insure a constant state of war.

  • It’s all an Inside job. Perpataraited by the Federal Reserve Nazi’s to insure a constant state of war.

  • Keep believing nonsense. They fell due to well known physics and the laws of gravity.

    • Even engineers say it’s impossible for that building to fall in 6 seconds with out about blowing the steel structure. Those engineers that say that actually built that building.

    • They fell? Building 7 is a singular term.

    • Well yeah, of course it fell due to gravity and physics. It wasn’t pushed to the ground with telekinesis or something. It fell due to gravity because it was attacked, making it unstable and able to fall due to gravity

    • Murca!

    • Jake Duncan Typical sheep who believes everything the govt says, how cute.

    • Only this building wasn’t hit by a plane or attacked.

    • Sheep believe anything. Like stupid history channel conspiracies.

    • I guarantee that anyone who thinks WTC7 fell from fire damage (the official report), doesn’t know shit about physics.

      WTC7 fell at free fall for ~105 feet, according to the official NIST report. For an object (in this case, the top block of WTC7) to fall at free fall speed, there literally cannot be ANY resistance (not even air).

      So what turned 105 feet of steel reinforced concrete, in a bomb resistant, skyscraper – into literally nothing, instantaneously? If you think fire does that, you are seriously mentally deficient.

    • Reynaldo Serrato Watch “New Evidence Proves 9 11 Story Is A Lie 10 Sep 2010.flv” on YouTube
      https://youtu.be/dVBQxsvG-x8

  • Keep believing nonsense. They fell due to well known physics and the laws of gravity.

    • Even engineers say it’s impossible for that building to fall in 6 seconds with out about blowing the steel structure. Those engineers that say that actually built that building.

    • They fell? Building 7 is a singular term.

    • Well yeah, of course it fell due to gravity and physics. It wasn’t pushed to the ground with telekinesis or something. It fell due to gravity because it was attacked, making it unstable and able to fall due to gravity

    • Murca!

    • Jake Duncan Typical sheep who believes everything the govt says, how cute.

    • Only this building wasn’t hit by a plane or attacked.

    • Sheep believe anything. Like stupid history channel conspiracies.

    • I guarantee that anyone who thinks WTC7 fell from fire damage (the official report), doesn’t know shit about physics.

      WTC7 fell at free fall for ~105 feet, according to the official NIST report. For an object (in this case, the top block of WTC7) to fall at free fall speed, there literally cannot be ANY resistance (not even air).

      So what turned 105 feet of steel reinforced concrete, in a bomb resistant, skyscraper – into literally nothing, instantaneously? If you think fire does that, you are seriously mentally deficient.

    • Reynaldo Serrato Watch “New Evidence Proves 9 11 Story Is A Lie 10 Sep 2010.flv” on YouTube
      https://youtu.be/dVBQxsvG-x8

  • It was the central operation center for the events of that day. It was destroyed to get rid of the evidence.

  • It was the central operation center for the events of that day. It was destroyed to get rid of the evidence.

  • nor was the Pentagon.

  • nor was the Pentagon.

  • Lewis Taylor

  • Lewis Taylor

  • Was a cover up destroyd the computer room to cover up all the money he got caught steeling

  • Was a cover up destroyd the computer room to cover up all the money he got caught steeling

  • How did bldg 7 even catch on fire??

    • “The massive amount of debris that fell on it,” and the Shockwave of WTC1/2 falling. But massive amounts of debris didn’t fall on it, that fell on WTC 5/6, both of which despite being between 1/2 and 7 and taking more damage than 7, did not fall.

    • It had a building fall on its south side, something the conspiracy cult hides from its flock

    • You would think the conspiracy cult would show its flock the damage on the south side but they only ever show the undamaged north side… I wonder why?

    • Flaming debris from WTC 1 set fire to WTC 5,6,7, and many vehicles to the north of WTC 7.

  • How did bldg 7 even catch on fire??

    • “The massive amount of debris that fell on it,” and the Shockwave of WTC1/2 falling. But massive amounts of debris didn’t fall on it, that fell on WTC 5/6, both of which despite being between 1/2 and 7 and taking more damage than 7, did not fall.

    • It had a building fall on its south side, something the conspiracy cult hides from its flock

    • You would think the conspiracy cult would show its flock the damage on the south side but they only ever show the undamaged north side… I wonder why?

    • Flaming debris from WTC 1 set fire to WTC 5,6,7, and many vehicles to the north of WTC 7.

  • They could not find any airplane structure at the Pentagon the engines were made out of titanium. So you’re saying that titanium vaporized when it hit the building but they found fingerprints evidence.

    • Miracle huh.

    • The Free Thought Project.com airplane fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel

    • Like to see those video tapes…..

    • Many claimed it was a patriot cruise missile.

    • Watch “New Evidence Proves 9 11 Story Is A Lie 10 Sep 2010.flv” on YouTube
      https://youtu.be/dVBQxsvG-x8

    • No passports?

    • Don’t forget the bulletproof bombproof passports!

    • This appears to be a missed piece of evidence for a powerful explosive charge being set off at, or very close to , the moment of impact. The video also shows an intense white flash just before the red fire ball from combustion of the dispersed fuel. This white flash, very different from the fire ball, is further evidence for the use of explosives.

      http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2009/WhatHitPentagonDrLeggeAug.pdf

    • Things found at the Pentagon:
      Plane debris
      Bodies of passengers and Pentagon staff.
      Entry hole was 16ft in diameter and wing imprints were at the lobby level.
      No behaviors of missile or bomb attack.
      Over 130 eye witnesses saw the plane

    • the plane vaporised right? So many witnesses but the 86 cameras saw nothing? Plane parts look they came off a model plane not a large commercial aircraft? A terrorist that couldn’t fly a Cessna did a perfect 270 degree turn profession pilots could perform and hit the building right where people investigating the lost $2.3 billion (announced the previous day) had disappeared? The damage to pentagon (relatively small hole) was completely different to the cartoon cut out at the WTC 1 & 2? Evidence was removed quickly from the lawn of the pentagon and never seen again? Etc etc…..

    • Vic Tannin Tons of plane debris equals fully vaporized?
      The 86 cameras are not pointed towards the sky. You are aware security cameras points towards ground level lookingbat foot traffic.
      The plane parts were not goung to immaculate, if you believed it should, youre lying to yourself.
      He could fly a Cessna why else was he liscensed.
      Nothing perfect about his flying, even experienced pilots havevsaid his flying was “shitty”.
      The money wasnt missing. It was accounted for.
      The hole wasnt small. It was 16ft in diameter before collapse. Wing imprints were at the lobby level. Wrong

    • Ivan you believe in fairy tales too? Pleases see! Yeah, they vaporise but the passport didn’t? Did flight MH17 vaporise when it hit the ground? No marks on the lawn? Clever guys at the pentagon point the cameras to the sky, all 86 of them? Pentagon, most guarded building in the world and a towel head does a mind boggling turn in a plane he’s never flown before, incredibly flies it an inch off the ground and hits the right spot to kill a few investigators. About the money being accounted for they’re not the words Rumsfeld used the day before. The hole was small compared to the cartoon cut out at the WTC! And talk about the 19 hijackers of which 7 are still alive – they must have “re-vaporised”? Maybe they got their identities wrong because none of them were seen on security tapes getting on the flights?

    • Seems to me that vic is the one that believes in fairy tales.

      Typical conspirisheep.

    • Vic Tannin LOL
      So far you’ve been consistently wrong so far.
      Passports have survived before in past plane crashes way before 9/11.
      There’s no reason to have camera’s pointed at the sky so youre making no sense, lol.
      Hanjour knew to steer the plane. The principle is the same as smaller planes when it comes to steering.
      It’s also evident you didnt pay attention to what Rumsfeld about the money. They talked about the money back in January, July August and September of 2001. It was a decade amount of expenditures, one of which was the rebuilding of Kuwait after the Gulf War.
      The hijackers are very much dead. The BBC story got all the names wrong and interviewed the wrong people. The BBC made a not so public apology for their error.

    • youve got it wrong sunshine – la la land…

    • Lol!

    • Vic Tannin Well so far you’ve got nothing right.

  • They could not find any airplane structure at the Pentagon the engines were made out of titanium. So you’re saying that titanium vaporized when it hit the building but they found fingerprints evidence.

    • Miracle huh.

    • The Free Thought Project.com airplane fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel

    • Like to see those video tapes…..

    • Many claimed it was a patriot cruise missile.

    • Watch “New Evidence Proves 9 11 Story Is A Lie 10 Sep 2010.flv” on YouTube
      https://youtu.be/dVBQxsvG-x8

    • No passports?

    • Don’t forget the bulletproof bombproof passports!

    • This appears to be a missed piece of evidence for a powerful explosive charge being set off at, or very close to , the moment of impact. The video also shows an intense white flash just before the red fire ball from combustion of the dispersed fuel. This white flash, very different from the fire ball, is further evidence for the use of explosives.

      http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2009/WhatHitPentagonDrLeggeAug.pdf

    • Things found at the Pentagon:
      Plane debris
      Bodies of passengers and Pentagon staff.
      Entry hole was 16ft in diameter and wing imprints were at the lobby level.
      No behaviors of missile or bomb attack.
      Over 130 eye witnesses saw the plane

    • the plane vaporised right? So many witnesses but the 86 cameras saw nothing? Plane parts look they came off a model plane not a large commercial aircraft? A terrorist that couldn’t fly a Cessna did a perfect 270 degree turn profession pilots could perform and hit the building right where people investigating the lost $2.3 billion (announced the previous day) had disappeared? The damage to pentagon (relatively small hole) was completely different to the cartoon cut out at the WTC 1 & 2? Evidence was removed quickly from the lawn of the pentagon and never seen again? Etc etc…..

    • Vic Tannin Tons of plane debris equals fully vaporized?
      The 86 cameras are not pointed towards the sky. You are aware security cameras points towards ground level lookingbat foot traffic.
      The plane parts were not goung to immaculate, if you believed it should, youre lying to yourself.
      He could fly a Cessna why else was he liscensed.
      Nothing perfect about his flying, even experienced pilots havevsaid his flying was “shitty”.
      The money wasnt missing. It was accounted for.
      The hole wasnt small. It was 16ft in diameter before collapse. Wing imprints were at the lobby level. Wrong

    • Ivan you believe in fairy tales too? Pleases see! Yeah, they vaporise but the passport didn’t? Did flight MH17 vaporise when it hit the ground? No marks on the lawn? Clever guys at the pentagon point the cameras to the sky, all 86 of them? Pentagon, most guarded building in the world and a towel head does a mind boggling turn in a plane he’s never flown before, incredibly flies it an inch off the ground and hits the right spot to kill a few investigators. About the money being accounted for they’re not the words Rumsfeld used the day before. The hole was small compared to the cartoon cut out at the WTC! And talk about the 19 hijackers of which 7 are still alive – they must have “re-vaporised”? Maybe they got their identities wrong because none of them were seen on security tapes getting on the flights?

    • Seems to me that vic is the one that believes in fairy tales.

      Typical conspirisheep.

    • Vic Tannin LOL
      So far you’ve been consistently wrong so far.
      Passports have survived before in past plane crashes way before 9/11.
      There’s no reason to have camera’s pointed at the sky so youre making no sense, lol.
      Hanjour knew to steer the plane. The principle is the same as smaller planes when it comes to steering.
      It’s also evident you didnt pay attention to what Rumsfeld about the money. They talked about the money back in January, July August and September of 2001. It was a decade amount of expenditures, one of which was the rebuilding of Kuwait after the Gulf War.
      The hijackers are very much dead. The BBC story got all the names wrong and interviewed the wrong people. The BBC made a not so public apology for their error.

    • youve got it wrong sunshine – la la land…

    • Lol!

    • Vic Tannin Well so far you’ve got nothing right.

  • I would be interesting to see a list of occupants (tenants) of building 7. At one point in time I had read that the Pentagon had financial offices there and a few other similarly interesting tenants in the building. There was suggestion at the time that there might have been a connection between it’s collapse and the public (news covered it) release ONE DAY prior to the collapse, by then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, that the Pentagon could not account for one billion dollars. Just “missing”.

    • 9 trillion is unaccounted for during the Bush Administration, lol.

    • I hate when I can’t remember where I put my billion dollars.

    • The flight that supposedly hit the pentagon had no civilian names it was all federal and military names. Nothing to be traced to any families. Hence the missile. Nothing could have every gotten that deep through the wall. No engines found. Bullshit conspiracy. People in the towers said they heard explosions going off in stairwells as they ran out.

  • I would be interesting to see a list of occupants (tenants) of building 7. At one point in time I had read that the Pentagon had financial offices there and a few other similarly interesting tenants in the building. There was suggestion at the time that there might have been a connection between it’s collapse and the public (news covered it) release ONE DAY prior to the collapse, by then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, that the Pentagon could not account for one billion dollars. Just “missing”.

    • 9 trillion is unaccounted for during the Bush Administration, lol.

    • I hate when I can’t remember where I put my billion dollars.

    • The flight that supposedly hit the pentagon had no civilian names it was all federal and military names. Nothing to be traced to any families. Hence the missile. Nothing could have every gotten that deep through the wall. No engines found. Bullshit conspiracy. People in the towers said they heard explosions going off in stairwells as they ran out.

  • Only 5?

  • Only 5?

  • You was lost your freedom since the feds were there and irs intact to collect your money!

  • You was lost your freedom since the feds were there and irs intact to collect your money!

  • Anyone who does not understand this needs to be beat with a fucking bat until they do

  • Anyone who does not understand this needs to be beat with a fucking bat until they do

  • Squibs insurance job among other things. trade center was a white elephant that constantly lost money, until it blew up

  • Squibs insurance job among other things. trade center was a white elephant that constantly lost money, until it blew up

  • It Obviously wasn’t the terrorists who “hated our freedom”, it was the government. Seeing as how the government created the terrorists, one could easily suggest that the government themselves are the terrorists. In which case then yes, the terrorists hate our freedom. Lol

  • It Obviously wasn’t the terrorists who “hated our freedom”, it was the government. Seeing as how the government created the terrorists, one could easily suggest that the government themselves are the terrorists. In which case then yes, the terrorists hate our freedom. Lol

  • WTC 7 had only a few small fires scattered over a few floors, and collapsed straight through the path of greatest resistance and fell with “minimal” resistance.

    • That’s not what first responders said..

      Battalion Chief John Norman
      Special Operations Command – 22 years

      From there, we looked out at 7 World Trade Center again. You could see smoke, but no visible fire, and some damage to the south face. You couldn’t really see from where we were on the west face of the building, but at the edge of the south face you could see that it was very heavily damaged.

  • WTC 7 had only a few small fires scattered over a few floors, and collapsed straight through the path of greatest resistance and fell with “minimal” resistance.

    • That’s not what first responders said..

      Battalion Chief John Norman
      Special Operations Command – 22 years

      From there, we looked out at 7 World Trade Center again. You could see smoke, but no visible fire, and some damage to the south face. You couldn’t really see from where we were on the west face of the building, but at the edge of the south face you could see that it was very heavily damaged.

  • an engine from the South Tower … is the primary engine of the Boeing 737 not the Boeing 767 and the 767 motor weights , 9 ton,9000 kgs.

  • an engine from the South Tower … is the primary engine of the Boeing 737 not the Boeing 767 and the 767 motor weights , 9 ton,9000 kgs.

  • Has the sounding of a conspiracy

    • When theory become Facts, there is no conspiracy ….
      (Unless your speaking “a conspiracy against thee American people)

  • Has the sounding of a conspiracy

    • When theory become Facts, there is no conspiracy ….
      (Unless your speaking “a conspiracy against thee American people)

  • no its was bush. or the illuminati. even though the former couldnt find his ass with both hands and latter likely doesnt exist anymore. also the planes recorded smashing into the buildings were a front for a super secret controlled explosion by our government because they couldnt just do it and blame someone else.. hey, maybe the hijackers were actually reptilian manchurian candidates from planet X. fucks sake

    • So you don’t believe that the government (especially the conservative right) would intentionally allow an attack to be carried out by “terrorists” who it has been proven that the US government armed and trained in the first place. To give them an excuse to go to war, putting tens of thousands of our soldiers at risk of death, for the sake of their own personal interests (oil) and (Haliberton)? Even though there is even well documented relationships between the Bush and Bin Laden family? Even though the documents Bradley manning exposed proved that the US government was paying the Taliban throughout the war in Afghanistan to fight us?? Even though it was proven that evidence and testimony involving weapons of mass destruction were falsified by them SAME people to get us into Iraq?? But NO them same people who were PROVEN to have already conspired against the American people and gotten THOUSANDS of us killed over a LIE in Iraq would could never have initiated all of this in the first place… No that’s bat shit crazy to think isn’t it… You support terrorism by supporting the government of the United States of America, Israel, And the U.K…. Since they see fit to create the terrorists in the first place they are guilty of ALL crimes committed by them.

    • Wow you are dumb

    • rich coming from someone who apparently doesnt understand sarcasm.

  • no its was bush. or the illuminati. even though the former couldnt find his ass with both hands and latter likely doesnt exist anymore. also the planes recorded smashing into the buildings were a front for a super secret controlled explosion by our government because they couldnt just do it and blame someone else.. hey, maybe the hijackers were actually reptilian manchurian candidates from planet X. fucks sake

    • So you don’t believe that the government (especially the conservative right) would intentionally allow an attack to be carried out by “terrorists” who it has been proven that the US government armed and trained in the first place. To give them an excuse to go to war, putting tens of thousands of our soldiers at risk of death, for the sake of their own personal interests (oil) and (Haliberton)? Even though there is even well documented relationships between the Bush and Bin Laden family? Even though the documents Bradley manning exposed proved that the US government was paying the Taliban throughout the war in Afghanistan to fight us?? Even though it was proven that evidence and testimony involving weapons of mass destruction were falsified by them SAME people to get us into Iraq?? But NO them same people who were PROVEN to have already conspired against the American people and gotten THOUSANDS of us killed over a LIE in Iraq would could never have initiated all of this in the first place… No that’s bat shit crazy to think isn’t it… You support terrorism by supporting the government of the United States of America, Israel, And the U.K…. Since they see fit to create the terrorists in the first place they are guilty of ALL crimes committed by them.

    • Wow you are dumb

    • rich coming from someone who apparently doesnt understand sarcasm.

  • Jacob

  • Jacob

  • And man never landed on the moon, either! LOL!

  • And man never landed on the moon, either! LOL!

  • Vasileios Christogiannis

  • Vasileios Christogiannis

  • Ive been talking about this for years!

  • Ive been talking about this for years!

  • The meme has nothing to do with the story.

  • The meme has nothing to do with the story.

  • So it’s an open criminal case maybe the U S police could investigate this the suspects are still free

  • So it’s an open criminal case maybe the U S police could investigate this the suspects are still free

  • None of the buildings collapsed due to planes. It was demolition.

  • None of the buildings collapsed due to planes. It was demolition.

  • You are phucking idiots.

  • You are phucking idiots.

  • King Watson. A good read

  • King Watson. A good read

  • While most of you were sucking on your MAMA titties, I watched it happen..

  • While most of you were sucking on your MAMA titties, I watched it happen..

  • I believe we all have a good angle on what really went down on 9/11 ,except of course those too blind to see !

  • I believe we all have a good angle on what really went down on 9/11 ,except of course those too blind to see !

  • Well Bush was in office an his family was doing construction in the WTC what a coincidence huh Not he is what we call a white collar crimal at sept its a mass murder that took place an robbery on the highest level ever

  • Well Bush was in office an his family was doing construction in the WTC what a coincidence huh Not he is what we call a white collar crimal at sept its a mass murder that took place an robbery on the highest level ever

  • known this since 9/11, these towers and bldg. 7 were classic controlled demolition, check out 911journeyfortruth, home page, open the video

  • known this since 9/11, these towers and bldg. 7 were classic controlled demolition, check out 911journeyfortruth, home page, open the video

    • If you really think a 767 is “little”…

      You’ve been getting too much of your info from memes and conspiracy cult websites.

    • If you really think a 767 is “little”…

      You’ve been getting too much of your info from memes and conspiracy cult websites.

  • fuck 7 ask about 6

  • fuck 7 ask about 6

    • Or because you’ve done the “research” and realize the conspiracy theories are bullshit lies that ignore all actual evidence.

    • Mike Schmitt ………….i’m only responsible for what i know…….not for what you understand…….peace……….

    • LOL sure thing, buddy, you’ve done your “research” after all.

    • Mike Schmitt

    • Or because you’ve done the “research” and realize the conspiracy theories are bullshit lies that ignore all actual evidence.

    • Mike Schmitt ………….i’m only responsible for what i know…….not for what you understand…….peace……….

    • LOL sure thing, buddy, you’ve done your “research” after all.

    • Mike Schmitt

  • doesn’t take a genius to figure that out at all… our govt is lying to us

  • doesn’t take a genius to figure that out at all… our govt is lying to us

  • The last argument I’ve heard was that debris from the other buildings compromised the foundation. As an architect, I can tell you that once you compromise a foundation, the results are immediate. But its interesting to me that debris found its way around other structures to WTC 7 when buildings closer to 1 and 2 are still standing to this day. I’m not promoting a conspiracy, since there’s several folks who are better at that than I could ever be – just saying.

  • The last argument I’ve heard was that debris from the other buildings compromised the foundation. As an architect, I can tell you that once you compromise a foundation, the results are immediate. But its interesting to me that debris found its way around other structures to WTC 7 when buildings closer to 1 and 2 are still standing to this day. I’m not promoting a conspiracy, since there’s several folks who are better at that than I could ever be – just saying.

  • Love it when tin foil hatter’s are presented with overwhelming evidence and just discount it as some huge conspiracy . maybe I should come up with some fucked up conspiracy . how about the twin towers didnt existed in the first place and was just a giant alien hologram along with everything else on this planet . we are actually in virtual reality tanks living out a fake existence while aliens suck our life force as nourishment . you know like the matrix or some shit. It more believable that this bullshit conspiracy hypothesis ( I call it a hypothesis as a theory has to be based on some form of reality ) ..

    • So you don’t believe that the government (especially the conservative right) would intentionally allow an attack to be carried out by “terrorists” who it has been proven that the US government armed and trained in the first place. To give them an excuse to go to war, putting tens of thousands of our soldiers at risk of death, for the sake of their own personal interests (oil) and (Haliberton)? Even though there is even well documented relationships between the Bush and Bin Laden family? Even though the documents Bradley manning exposed proved that the US government was paying the Taliban throughout the war in Afghanistan to fight us?? Even though it was proven that evidence and testimony involving weapons of mass destruction were falsified by them SAME people to get us into Iraq?? But NO them same people who were PROVEN to have already conspired against the American people and gotten THOUSANDS of us killed over a LIE in Iraq would could never have initiated all of this in the first place… No that’s bat shit crazy to think isn’t it… You support terrorism by supporting the government of the United States of America, Israel, And the U.K…. Since they see fit to create the terrorists in the first place they are guilty of ALL crimes committed by them.

    • No , I don’t wouldn’t put it past them . I just don’t believe the government planted bombs in the towers to make them fall .

    • Explain how building 7 fell then? Nothing hit it, so you really think that a small office fire caused it to fall?? Also look at other buildings that have fallen without demo charges. They don’t fall at the speed of gravity into their own footprint. I’m not going to use the “jet fuel can’t melt steel” argument because it is irrelevant. What I will say is even if it did, observe the experiment the “debunker” on Facebook did. Sure he was able to bend the steel side to side, but he could not push it straight down onto itself. Them buildings should have fallen sideways if anything.. But they didn’t.

    • Chris Cunliffe false flags like this one have been presented to US presidents in the past…it is a proven fact that a similar plan waspresented to Kennedy in the past to spark a war between USA and cuba….Kenedy refused…but we all know Bush wasnt as smart or kind hearted as Kennedy…. Chris, I pity your submissivness.

    • Wow watch those goalposts shift…

    • Joe Banks “small office fire” ROTFL! And you wonder why people think Truthers are idiots!

    • It’s called science .

  • Love it when tin foil hatter’s are presented with overwhelming evidence and just discount it as some huge conspiracy . maybe I should come up with some fucked up conspiracy . how about the twin towers didnt existed in the first place and was just a giant alien hologram along with everything else on this planet . we are actually in virtual reality tanks living out a fake existence while aliens suck our life force as nourishment . you know like the matrix or some shit. It more believable that this bullshit conspiracy hypothesis ( I call it a hypothesis as a theory has to be based on some form of reality ) ..

    • So you don’t believe that the government (especially the conservative right) would intentionally allow an attack to be carried out by “terrorists” who it has been proven that the US government armed and trained in the first place. To give them an excuse to go to war, putting tens of thousands of our soldiers at risk of death, for the sake of their own personal interests (oil) and (Haliberton)? Even though there is even well documented relationships between the Bush and Bin Laden family? Even though the documents Bradley manning exposed proved that the US government was paying the Taliban throughout the war in Afghanistan to fight us?? Even though it was proven that evidence and testimony involving weapons of mass destruction were falsified by them SAME people to get us into Iraq?? But NO them same people who were PROVEN to have already conspired against the American people and gotten THOUSANDS of us killed over a LIE in Iraq would could never have initiated all of this in the first place… No that’s bat shit crazy to think isn’t it… You support terrorism by supporting the government of the United States of America, Israel, And the U.K…. Since they see fit to create the terrorists in the first place they are guilty of ALL crimes committed by them.

    • No , I don’t wouldn’t put it past them . I just don’t believe the government planted bombs in the towers to make them fall .

    • Explain how building 7 fell then? Nothing hit it, so you really think that a small office fire caused it to fall?? Also look at other buildings that have fallen without demo charges. They don’t fall at the speed of gravity into their own footprint. I’m not going to use the “jet fuel can’t melt steel” argument because it is irrelevant. What I will say is even if it did, observe the experiment the “debunker” on Facebook did. Sure he was able to bend the steel side to side, but he could not push it straight down onto itself. Them buildings should have fallen sideways if anything.. But they didn’t.

    • Chris Cunliffe false flags like this one have been presented to US presidents in the past…it is a proven fact that a similar plan waspresented to Kennedy in the past to spark a war between USA and cuba….Kenedy refused…but we all know Bush wasnt as smart or kind hearted as Kennedy…. Chris, I pity your submissivness.

    • Wow watch those goalposts shift…

    • Joe Banks “small office fire” ROTFL! And you wonder why people think Truthers are idiots!

    • It’s called science .

  • the truth will never come out and we can’t do anything about it. the powers that be will just continue doing whatever they want to. all you can do is just sit back and enjoy the show.

  • the truth will never come out and we can’t do anything about it. the powers that be will just continue doing whatever they want to. all you can do is just sit back and enjoy the show.

  • Good thing they found that passport that flew out of the pocket of the terrorists and that it didn’t burn up with all the molten steel 😀

  • Good thing they found that passport that flew out of the pocket of the terrorists and that it didn’t burn up with all the molten steel 😀

  • We need more people to wake up. Our government is very criminal.

  • We need more people to wake up. Our government is very criminal.

  • AND the 6.5 seconds was actually faster than gravity which means there was a vacuum. Vacuums are created with controlled demolition. Multiple floors ‘disappearing’. Sucks the building downward into its own footprint rather than toppling over

    • Not to mention thermite residue

    • And the fact that this type engineering would be as an analogy like a sticking a pencil thru a screendoor screen the way theyre designed AND the planes themselves would’ve crumbled upon impact like an accordion. NO plane wreckage found onsite excpt an engine/plant that didn’t match the alleged plane that hit the tower AND because of the air friction/proximity to the ground that low to the ground a plane would NOT have been able to hit the building at 500mph, it would’ve been plummeted to the ground beforehand

  • AND the 6.5 seconds was actually faster than gravity which means there was a vacuum. Vacuums are created with controlled demolition. Multiple floors ‘disappearing’. Sucks the building downward into its own footprint rather than toppling over

    • Not to mention thermite residue

    • And the fact that this type engineering would be as an analogy like a sticking a pencil thru a screendoor screen the way theyre designed AND the planes themselves would’ve crumbled upon impact like an accordion. NO plane wreckage found onsite excpt an engine/plant that didn’t match the alleged plane that hit the tower AND because of the air friction/proximity to the ground that low to the ground a plane would NOT have been able to hit the building at 500mph, it would’ve been plummeted to the ground beforehand

  • The laws of physics were suspended the day after Rumsfeld stated that trillions of dollars could not be accounted for. The next day, an airplane vaporized a hole in the Pentagons E ring, leaving no wings behind a hole much smaller than the wingspan of a Boeing. This area of the Pentagon was being used to account for the missing money. Look up what happened the day before 9/11. Cheney went on to make billions of dollars off the deaths and murders of our brave men and women. I bet if we put him in Guantanamo Bay long enough he’d admit to everything. Of course, anyone would.

    • It’s truly horrifying.

    • You say “look up what happened the day before 9/11!” and how did you ‘look up’ this? By watching a conspiracy laced YouTube vid? Lol you absolute joke!

    • Dont take my word for it. Look it up – and after you’ve put more effort into it than calling people losers, tell me how much money the Pentagon cannot account for. Feel free to correct me, I’ll wait patiently.

    • Owned, he didnt think you had a reply Lol.

    • Anyone who believes the official story is the worst kind of stupid, stupid by choice Lol.

    • Observation of the event itself doesnt make sense. Building just falls straight down after being hit at the very top huh? “Looks right to me.”

    • I’ve heard everything from carpet burning hot enough to liquify steel to the friction of the columns collapsing destroying the steel at free fall speeds. There’s nuts on every side of the argument, but there’s no arguing with physics.

    • Yeah, fast and furious action was state that it is terrorist attack and america should give them a retaliation through war on terror. What were suprise is, all american blindly believe and eat these shit until they reallize what was really happen those day.

    • Pendeta Khayalan Not all of us are sheep Khayalan, but far too many are. Some of us knew the official story was an obvious lie from the start. I’d be interested to know what the average Turk thinks over there.

    • There was plane debris in the Pentagon.
      Engine parts were found and the engine is not a slab of titanium, its made of intricate parts.
      Passengers and Pentagon staff were in the wreckage

    • Show me a link to a pic of broken wings outside the E ring. It was a clean green lawn before and after the ring’s collapse, which had very little footage – despite the fact that the Pentagon is extremely well surveillanced. And of course the media knew instantly that Osama was behind the attack…

    • Good thing Seal Team 6 caught him and threw him in the Ocean for some stupid reason. Respecting his religion? And then the whole team died… If you bought that shit I want to talk to you about this bridge for sale.

    • Josh Lawrence Extraction team died. Not those who raided the compound.

    • Lol Josh Lawrence, do you actually believe the wing should break off.

    • According to Josh Lawrence, this wing should break off also

    • Lmao. If the Boeing punched a hole through the Pentagon without the wings breaking, the hole would be the size of a Boeing. Are you serious?

    • Also thats a brick building. *Golf clap.* when you throw a tallboy full of burning jet fuel into a metal filing cabinet, does it punch a hole through it, light everything on fire and make it and the cabinet next to it collapse straight down into its own footprint?

    • Josh Lawrence, the wings off AA Flight 77 shattered against the reinforced concrete wall of the Pentagon, leaving burning fuel along it for a good distance.

    • As you can plainly see in this photo. The world awaits the Truther explanation for this. Did the same stealth ninjas who planted plane debris and tore down lamp posts in front of hundreds of witnesses also run along the Pentagon wall with Super-Soaker squirt guns loaded with jet fuel, then light it afire?

    • What is it thats plainly shown in this photo? And no, i doubt ninjas were involved. The video coverage shows a shadow pass over the pentagon and a fiery blast erupts instantly. It looks like it was hit by a cruise missile. But feel free to point out where the wings are in this super duper photo you have as your best card.

    • Josh Lawrence entry point of left wing

    • Josh Lawrence the image in the video was too big to be a cruise missile.
      The entry hole was also too big.

      The average cabin size of a commercial liner is 14-16ft in radius.

      The size of the entry point before collapse was 16ft in radius.

      The largest bunker buster, laser guided, heat seeking, cruise missile is 4 ft in diameter.

      Not to mention survivors and victims didnt suffer blast injuries unique to bombings or missile attacks.

    • Ivan. Thanks for debating for real. My problem with some of what you said is as follows, the cabin size doesnt matter when there’s a 125 foot overall width of the Boeing 757. Outside the 16 foot hole you mentioned we see verticle columns still connected to the ground, no wing damage left behind. The Pentagon is the most heavily surveillanced place on Earth, so why cant anyone show me a video of a Boeing smashing into the Pentagon? Here’s what they released..

    • I seen what was released. The object in question is in scale with a commercial liner

    • The object is at the very best a fraction of a blur. What are you seeing that we arent? How is there still verticle columns connected to the ground?

  • The laws of physics were suspended the day after Rumsfeld stated that trillions of dollars could not be accounted for. The next day, an airplane vaporized a hole in the Pentagons E ring, leaving no wings behind a hole much smaller than the wingspan of a Boeing. This area of the Pentagon was being used to account for the missing money. Look up what happened the day before 9/11. Cheney went on to make billions of dollars off the deaths and murders of our brave men and women. I bet if we put him in Guantanamo Bay long enough he’d admit to everything. Of course, anyone would.

    • It’s truly horrifying.

    • You say “look up what happened the day before 9/11!” and how did you ‘look up’ this? By watching a conspiracy laced YouTube vid? Lol you absolute joke!

    • Dont take my word for it. Look it up – and after you’ve put more effort into it than calling people losers, tell me how much money the Pentagon cannot account for. Feel free to correct me, I’ll wait patiently.

    • Owned, he didnt think you had a reply Lol.

    • Anyone who believes the official story is the worst kind of stupid, stupid by choice Lol.

    • Observation of the event itself doesnt make sense. Building just falls straight down after being hit at the very top huh? “Looks right to me.”

    • I’ve heard everything from carpet burning hot enough to liquify steel to the friction of the columns collapsing destroying the steel at free fall speeds. There’s nuts on every side of the argument, but there’s no arguing with physics.

    • Yeah, fast and furious action was state that it is terrorist attack and america should give them a retaliation through war on terror. What were suprise is, all american blindly believe and eat these shit until they reallize what was really happen those day.

    • Pendeta Khayalan Not all of us are sheep Khayalan, but far too many are. Some of us knew the official story was an obvious lie from the start. I’d be interested to know what the average Turk thinks over there.

    • There was plane debris in the Pentagon.
      Engine parts were found and the engine is not a slab of titanium, its made of intricate parts.
      Passengers and Pentagon staff were in the wreckage

    • Show me a link to a pic of broken wings outside the E ring. It was a clean green lawn before and after the ring’s collapse, which had very little footage – despite the fact that the Pentagon is extremely well surveillanced. And of course the media knew instantly that Osama was behind the attack…

    • Good thing Seal Team 6 caught him and threw him in the Ocean for some stupid reason. Respecting his religion? And then the whole team died… If you bought that shit I want to talk to you about this bridge for sale.

    • Josh Lawrence Extraction team died. Not those who raided the compound.

    • Lol Josh Lawrence, do you actually believe the wing should break off.

    • According to Josh Lawrence, this wing should break off also

    • Lmao. If the Boeing punched a hole through the Pentagon without the wings breaking, the hole would be the size of a Boeing. Are you serious?

    • Also thats a brick building. *Golf clap.* when you throw a tallboy full of burning jet fuel into a metal filing cabinet, does it punch a hole through it, light everything on fire and make it and the cabinet next to it collapse straight down into its own footprint?

    • Josh Lawrence, the wings off AA Flight 77 shattered against the reinforced concrete wall of the Pentagon, leaving burning fuel along it for a good distance.

    • As you can plainly see in this photo. The world awaits the Truther explanation for this. Did the same stealth ninjas who planted plane debris and tore down lamp posts in front of hundreds of witnesses also run along the Pentagon wall with Super-Soaker squirt guns loaded with jet fuel, then light it afire?

    • What is it thats plainly shown in this photo? And no, i doubt ninjas were involved. The video coverage shows a shadow pass over the pentagon and a fiery blast erupts instantly. It looks like it was hit by a cruise missile. But feel free to point out where the wings are in this super duper photo you have as your best card.

    • Josh Lawrence entry point of left wing

    • Josh Lawrence the image in the video was too big to be a cruise missile.
      The entry hole was also too big.

      The average cabin size of a commercial liner is 14-16ft in radius.

      The size of the entry point before collapse was 16ft in radius.

      The largest bunker buster, laser guided, heat seeking, cruise missile is 4 ft in diameter.

      Not to mention survivors and victims didnt suffer blast injuries unique to bombings or missile attacks.

    • Ivan. Thanks for debating for real. My problem with some of what you said is as follows, the cabin size doesnt matter when there’s a 125 foot overall width of the Boeing 757. Outside the 16 foot hole you mentioned we see verticle columns still connected to the ground, no wing damage left behind. The Pentagon is the most heavily surveillanced place on Earth, so why cant anyone show me a video of a Boeing smashing into the Pentagon? Here’s what they released..

    • I seen what was released. The object in question is in scale with a commercial liner

    • The object is at the very best a fraction of a blur. What are you seeing that we arent? How is there still verticle columns connected to the ground?

  • smdh

  • smdh

  • watched film of one tower coming down. controlled demo

  • watched film of one tower coming down. controlled demo

  • its shit like this that makes actual conspiracies seem crazy. WE HAVE THE HIJACKERS ON TAPE BOARDING THE PLANES. CALLS FROM THE VICTIMS FROM THE PLANES. RECORDINGS OF THE HIJACKERS. ACTUAL GODAMN FOOTAGE OF THE PLANES HITTING, 3000 DEAD AMERICANS, 4 COMMERCIAL AIRLINES GONE, RECORDINGS OF BIN LADEN TALKING ABOUT IT. EVERY FUCKING THING POINTS TO AL QAEDA ATTACKING BUT YOUR STUPID ASSES KEEP TALKING ABOUT GODAMN STUPID ASS STEEL BEAMS! ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH

  • its shit like this that makes actual conspiracies seem crazy. WE HAVE THE HIJACKERS ON TAPE BOARDING THE PLANES. CALLS FROM THE VICTIMS FROM THE PLANES. RECORDINGS OF THE HIJACKERS. ACTUAL GODAMN FOOTAGE OF THE PLANES HITTING, 3000 DEAD AMERICANS, 4 COMMERCIAL AIRLINES GONE, RECORDINGS OF BIN LADEN TALKING ABOUT IT. EVERY FUCKING THING POINTS TO AL QAEDA ATTACKING BUT YOUR STUPID ASSES KEEP TALKING ABOUT GODAMN STUPID ASS STEEL BEAMS! ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH

  • Coincident that the day before 911 Donald Rumsfeld had announced that there was $ 2.5 trillion in waste and fraud at the Pentagon and then 911 happened and everyone forgot about it , didn’t care , the US had been attacked ! The waste and fraud now , is $8.6 trillion , waste and fraud . People wonder why the national debt is so high at $18 trillion , well that and however much the Iraq war ends up costing us kind of explains that . Then there is the San Bernardino mass shooting , supposedly pulled off by two radicalized Muslims , man and woman , their bloody bodies were conveniently found in the bed of a truck along with no explanation of or description of a shootout . Five eye witness’ said that three , athletic , what they called white men , burst in and opened fire and I remember hearing news reports about it that said the same thing , there was three shooters . Then it changed to the couple , with a woman who had just given birth and was hardly big and strong enough to pick a weapon up , much less use it like that . If there is another terrorist incident that happens in the near future , don’t knee jerk and want to destroy the world , because chances are , that is exactly the kind of reaction the perpetrator was looking for .

  • Coincident that the day before 911 Donald Rumsfeld had announced that there was $ 2.5 trillion in waste and fraud at the Pentagon and then 911 happened and everyone forgot about it , didn’t care , the US had been attacked ! The waste and fraud now , is $8.6 trillion , waste and fraud . People wonder why the national debt is so high at $18 trillion , well that and however much the Iraq war ends up costing us kind of explains that . Then there is the San Bernardino mass shooting , supposedly pulled off by two radicalized Muslims , man and woman , their bloody bodies were conveniently found in the bed of a truck along with no explanation of or description of a shootout . Five eye witness’ said that three , athletic , what they called white men , burst in and opened fire and I remember hearing news reports about it that said the same thing , there was three shooters . Then it changed to the couple , with a woman who had just given birth and was hardly big and strong enough to pick a weapon up , much less use it like that . If there is another terrorist incident that happens in the near future , don’t knee jerk and want to destroy the world , because chances are , that is exactly the kind of reaction the perpetrator was looking for .

  • free thought is a great thing until it ends up on the fucking moon

  • free thought is a great thing until it ends up on the fucking moon

  • The terrorists were not muslim. They were Bush.

  • The terrorists were not muslim. They were Bush.

  • You tryn to say poured concrete and steel are not flammable? Wha?

  • You tryn to say poured concrete and steel are not flammable? Wha?

  • The terrorists dont hate your freedom they hate your government

  • The terrorists dont hate your freedom they hate your government

  • Whatever you may say, steel frames collapse at high temperatures.

  • Whatever you may say, steel frames collapse at high temperatures.

  • OOOOOOOhOOOOHOOOOhHHHHHH !!! 58 comments and not one agrees with another ! Exactly Where They Want Us !!

  • OOOOOOOhOOOOHOOOOhHHHHHH !!! 58 comments and not one agrees with another ! Exactly Where They Want Us !!

  • Nuclear bomb, been there since the 60’s

  • Nuclear bomb, been there since the 60’s

  • I prefer the video that shows the whole collapse, not just the last few seconds, and the pictures of the other side of the building.

  • I prefer the video that shows the whole collapse, not just the last few seconds, and the pictures of the other side of the building.

  • Incontrovertible

  • Incontrovertible

  • thought it looked odd.

  • thought it looked odd.

  • Patrick Løbnitz Skjoldborg Patrick Bertramsen

  • Patrick Løbnitz Skjoldborg Patrick Bertramsen

  • Shannon McCormick

  • Shannon McCormick

  • Jes Sica

  • Jes Sica

  • How many that have never fallen were hit by big ass planes filled with fuel?

  • How many that have never fallen were hit by big ass planes filled with fuel?

  • They didn’t melt but bend; they specifically targeted planes traveling across the country because they were filled with fuel. In 1990’s they inspected the building and noted that the fire proofing on the steel beams were coming off; the impact of the plane completely blew the fire proofing off the beams immediately after impact. The firefighters knew before they went into the building their was no putting out the fire. Hey I only go to school and getting a degree in fire science; what do I know?

  • They didn’t melt but bend; they specifically targeted planes traveling across the country because they were filled with fuel. In 1990’s they inspected the building and noted that the fire proofing on the steel beams were coming off; the impact of the plane completely blew the fire proofing off the beams immediately after impact. The firefighters knew before they went into the building their was no putting out the fire. Hey I only go to school and getting a degree in fire science; what do I know?

  • LMAO. That’s all I can do, is laugh at you people. Take the tin-foil off, holy shit.

  • LMAO. That’s all I can do, is laugh at you people. Take the tin-foil off, holy shit.

  • Controlled demolition all the way “hidden” in plain sight.

  • Controlled demolition all the way “hidden” in plain sight.

  • That is correct, and the U.S. government has lied to us about it ever since.

  • That is correct, and the U.S. government has lied to us about it ever since.

  • I’m with you on this logic but I am in sheer disbelief of the staggering number of people who believe that they fell on their own.

    • Being hit by commercial airliners is falling “on their own”? My god troofers are dense…

  • I’m with you on this logic but I am in sheer disbelief of the staggering number of people who believe that they fell on their own.

    • Being hit by commercial airliners is falling “on their own”? My god troofers are dense…

  • Speak to the personnel that picked up the dead bodies and tell me that was fake. Communists.

  • Speak to the personnel that picked up the dead bodies and tell me that was fake. Communists.

  • Funny how we all unite behind 9/11,… behind all not buying all the BS fed to us about 9/11!

    Ghouliani built his police bunker here, despite the NYPD and the NYFD not wanting a command center in such a visible locale. There were 6000 gallons of diesel fuel stored here, to operate generators in case of another attack like the one in 93.

    Also, Ghouliani, a former prosecutor, did not perform crime scene analysis on Ground Zero, instead, he had the thousands of tons of steel hauled away and recycled, another no bid non cpm contract for his construction cronies. Largest crime scene in recent American history, and no investigation. Staggering.

  • Funny how we all unite behind 9/11,… behind all not buying all the BS fed to us about 9/11!

    Ghouliani built his police bunker here, despite the NYPD and the NYFD not wanting a command center in such a visible locale. There were 6000 gallons of diesel fuel stored here, to operate generators in case of another attack like the one in 93.

    Also, Ghouliani, a former prosecutor, did not perform crime scene analysis on Ground Zero, instead, he had the thousands of tons of steel hauled away and recycled, another no bid non cpm contract for his construction cronies. Largest crime scene in recent American history, and no investigation. Staggering.

  • I keep seeing all these theories that our government did 911, we stirred up ISIS….etc…. what I never ever see? What anyone proposes to do about it. What difference does it make if no one can do anything about it?

  • I keep seeing all these theories that our government did 911, we stirred up ISIS….etc…. what I never ever see? What anyone proposes to do about it. What difference does it make if no one can do anything about it?

  • Sigh…

    Please don’t propagate your own propaganda as the truth if you can’t even be bothered to get the facts right.

  • Sigh…

    Please don’t propagate your own propaganda as the truth if you can’t even be bothered to get the facts right.

  • building 7 will always bug me

  • building 7 will always bug me

  • No it didn’t. If you had the tiniest amount of researching ability, you’d know it took 8 hours to fall. Though building 7 wasn’t hit directly by a whole plane it was on the follow through flight path from a plane that hit a tower, spraying it with fuel. It had a fire that raged for 8 hours. Then when the north tower fell, debris ripped a whole in the side of building 7. Seconds before the tower fell one whole side of the building 7 fell away beforehand, then it fell.

  • No it didn’t. If you had the tiniest amount of researching ability, you’d know it took 8 hours to fall. Though building 7 wasn’t hit directly by a whole plane it was on the follow through flight path from a plane that hit a tower, spraying it with fuel. It had a fire that raged for 8 hours. Then when the north tower fell, debris ripped a whole in the side of building 7. Seconds before the tower fell one whole side of the building 7 fell away beforehand, then it fell.

  • The population is mentally ill.

  • The population is mentally ill.

  • …stop

  • …stop

  • Until this Islamic Terrorist attack is re-written to suit the fiction you won’t relent. All your conspiracy theories have been disproved time and time again.

  • Until this Islamic Terrorist attack is re-written to suit the fiction you won’t relent. All your conspiracy theories have been disproved time and time again.

  • “Bubbubut my tv said it was scary brown people that did it!!!! My tv would never betray me!!!!”

  • “Bubbubut my tv said it was scary brown people that did it!!!! My tv would never betray me!!!!”

  • These were American engineers making these statements.

    Watch “New Evidence Proves 9 11 Story Is A Lie 10 Sep 2010.flv” on YouTube
    https://youtu.be/dVBQxsvG-x8

  • These were American engineers making these statements.

    Watch “New Evidence Proves 9 11 Story Is A Lie 10 Sep 2010.flv” on YouTube
    https://youtu.be/dVBQxsvG-x8

  • Check out the news footage from first responder news team on the Oklahoma bombing

  • Check out the news footage from first responder news team on the Oklahoma bombing

  • Gay marriage melts steel beams!!

  • Gay marriage melts steel beams!!

  • The building was a time bomb waiting to happen, it held all the diesel fuel for all seven buildings back up generators.

  • The building was a time bomb waiting to happen, it held all the diesel fuel for all seven buildings back up generators.

  • this fit Bush’s agenda. to cover up the lost money (pentagon) ( wher so called plane crashed into the only wall of the pentagon where on the other side were all the finance records on a computer, lost forever) and to start a war. if he wasn’t part of it,,, he damn sure knew about it before it happened. boeing can’t explain a lot of what was found and seen there

  • this fit Bush’s agenda. to cover up the lost money (pentagon) ( wher so called plane crashed into the only wall of the pentagon where on the other side were all the finance records on a computer, lost forever) and to start a war. if he wasn’t part of it,,, he damn sure knew about it before it happened. boeing can’t explain a lot of what was found and seen there

  • Thousands of Americans died on 9/11 and nobody explains why? That’s bull ! Screwed up!

  • Thousands of Americans died on 9/11 and nobody explains why? That’s bull ! Screwed up!

  • This is garbage it’s already been proven that the fuel from the planes superheated the steel causing this. Maybe this site shout be renamed stupid thoughts as opposed to free thoughts

    • jet fuel can never possibly reach temps to melt structural steel…

    • Garrett Shuck nobody’s ever claimed the steel melted – it’s been proven over and over that steel loses more than 50% of its strength at the temps it reached.

    • Garrett Shuck read Mike Schmitt’s post. All that needed to happen was for steel to weaken.

  • This is garbage it’s already been proven that the fuel from the planes superheated the steel causing this. Maybe this site shout be renamed stupid thoughts as opposed to free thoughts

    • jet fuel can never possibly reach temps to melt structural steel…

    • Garrett Shuck nobody’s ever claimed the steel melted – it’s been proven over and over that steel loses more than 50% of its strength at the temps it reached.

    • Garrett Shuck read Mike Schmitt’s post. All that needed to happen was for steel to weaken.

  • Cynthia

  • Cynthia

  • I believe that 100%

  • I believe that 100%

  • Watch loose change you can see the structural detonation floor by floor as they collapsed and they were designed to withstand accidental impact by aircraft

  • Watch loose change you can see the structural detonation floor by floor as they collapsed and they were designed to withstand accidental impact by aircraft

  • yeah we know this so why not as a nation stand up and bring those who are guilty to justice?

  • yeah we know this so why not as a nation stand up and bring those who are guilty to justice?

  • For years I’ve been back and forth on this I pretty much convinced now that in was an inside job. However I just realized something …….. NOT MY COUNTRY, NOT MY GOVERNMENT, NOT MY PROBLEM!!!!!

  • For years I’ve been back and forth on this I pretty much convinced now that in was an inside job. However I just realized something …….. NOT MY COUNTRY, NOT MY GOVERNMENT, NOT MY PROBLEM!!!!!

  • Revolt against the 1% of the rich! They control the government to keep you in fear of an enemy! To give us reason to believe that the military system is needed along with mi6! They keep you working 9-5 with just enough to have a house an the yearly holiday so that you don’t think about what they are really doing! Stringing you along with that carrot!

  • Revolt against the 1% of the rich! They control the government to keep you in fear of an enemy! To give us reason to believe that the military system is needed along with mi6! They keep you working 9-5 with just enough to have a house an the yearly holiday so that you don’t think about what they are really doing! Stringing you along with that carrot!

  • Totalitarianism

    A society living by and for continuous warfare in which the ruling caste have ceased to have any real function but succeed in clinging to power through force and fraud.

  • Totalitarianism

    A society living by and for continuous warfare in which the ruling caste have ceased to have any real function but succeed in clinging to power through force and fraud.

  • Alain Nageon De Lestang

  • Alain Nageon De Lestang

  • Try this scientific explanation…1535ºC (2795ºF) – melting point of iron
    ~1510ºC (2750ºF) – melting point of typical structural steel
    ~825ºC (1517ºF) – maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air – blue flame)..Oh and I forgot to point out another small detail..The spray-on fireproofing for structural steel elements was gypsum-based Monokote which had a two-hour fire rating for steel beams, girders and trusses, and a three-hour rating for columns.so how did it come down within 1 hour of the controlled explosions..oops sorry planes… The terrorists are our Governments and their puppet masters.

  • Try this scientific explanation…1535ºC (2795ºF) – melting point of iron
    ~1510ºC (2750ºF) – melting point of typical structural steel
    ~825ºC (1517ºF) – maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air – blue flame)..Oh and I forgot to point out another small detail..The spray-on fireproofing for structural steel elements was gypsum-based Monokote which had a two-hour fire rating for steel beams, girders and trusses, and a three-hour rating for columns.so how did it come down within 1 hour of the controlled explosions..oops sorry planes… The terrorists are our Governments and their puppet masters.

  • Scarry

  • Scarry

  • even two words

  • even two words

  • It didn’t happened by Midle east terrorists. It was the US that planned it.

  • It didn’t happened by Midle east terrorists. It was the US that planned it.

  • You dumb asses need to find a hobby or look for a job, read a good book and get the fucking mush out of your ignorant brains.

  • You dumb asses need to find a hobby or look for a job, read a good book and get the fucking mush out of your ignorant brains.

  • You guys really don’t understand metallurgy. Shut the fuck up until you educate yourself.

  • You guys really don’t understand metallurgy. Shut the fuck up until you educate yourself.

  • No and building 7 didn’t fall from fire or structural damage either.

  • No and building 7 didn’t fall from fire or structural damage either.

  • So many idiots here

  • So many idiots here

  • Jet fuel lit up will bring anything down

  • Jet fuel lit up will bring anything down

  • Only in merica.

  • Only in merica.

  • Still think this was an act of “terrorism”

  • Still think this was an act of “terrorism”

  • Reason for more wars……

  • Reason for more wars……

  • AAAAAAAAND unlike

  • AAAAAAAAND unlike

  • Something smells fishy

  • Something smells fishy

  • Lets make America great again they said……yet they’re still lying to your faces everyday about everything but what ever you know this country likes to point fingers and what not smh

  • Lets make America great again they said……yet they’re still lying to your faces everyday about everything but what ever you know this country likes to point fingers and what not smh

  • Thermite perhaps?

  • Thermite perhaps?

  • This appears to be a missed piece of evidence for a powerful explosive charge being set off at, or very close to , the moment of impact. The video also shows an intense white flash just before the red fire ball from combustion of the dispersed fuel. This white flash, very different from the fire ball, is further evidence for the use of explosives.

    http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2009/WhatHitPentagonDrLeggeAug.pdf

  • This appears to be a missed piece of evidence for a powerful explosive charge being set off at, or very close to , the moment of impact. The video also shows an intense white flash just before the red fire ball from combustion of the dispersed fuel. This white flash, very different from the fire ball, is further evidence for the use of explosives.

    http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2009/WhatHitPentagonDrLeggeAug.pdf

  • It was a controlled demolition, plain as day. All three WTC buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. NONE of the standard protocols for investigation was used & evidence was destroyed as quickly as possible. Notwithstanding, there is plenty left to implicate the the people behind this “false flag” attack…

  • It was a controlled demolition, plain as day. All three WTC buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. NONE of the standard protocols for investigation was used & evidence was destroyed as quickly as possible. Notwithstanding, there is plenty left to implicate the the people behind this “false flag” attack…

  • Ignoring the fact that 7 was damaged by the collapsing north tower

  • Ignoring the fact that 7 was damaged by the collapsing north tower

  • Joe Smith

    • It was an inside job, you’d have to ignorant as fuck to believe otherwise lol

  • Joe Smith

    • It was an inside job, you’d have to ignorant as fuck to believe otherwise lol

  • 1.) Its a common lie conspiricy nuts are told that the entire building fell in 6.5 seconds. It never did, they always cut out the first part of the collapse to make the building look like it fell faster than it really did. Here is the full uncut collapse it takes hell of a lot longer than 6.5 seconds.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkKgLKyhqHk

    2.) The entire building did not even come close to free fall when we look at the entire collapse. This free fall claim is simply a lie.

    3.) Many buildings have fell due to progressive collapses a list of such can be seen here;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_collapse

    4.) Building 7 was not hit by a plane but it WAS hit by the falling tower, the falling tower collapsed on building 7’s south side causing structural damage, it started building wide fires and cut the water mains that would have fed the sprinkler system.

    4 lies in one meme and you wonder why we call you liars

  • 1.) Its a common lie conspiricy nuts are told that the entire building fell in 6.5 seconds. It never did, they always cut out the first part of the collapse to make the building look like it fell faster than it really did. Here is the full uncut collapse it takes hell of a lot longer than 6.5 seconds.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkKgLKyhqHk

    2.) The entire building did not even come close to free fall when we look at the entire collapse. This free fall claim is simply a lie.

    3.) Many buildings have fell due to progressive collapses a list of such can be seen here;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_collapse

    4.) Building 7 was not hit by a plane but it WAS hit by the falling tower, the falling tower collapsed on building 7’s south side causing structural damage, it started building wide fires and cut the water mains that would have fed the sprinkler system.

    4 lies in one meme and you wonder why we call you liars

  • ❤️

    • The steel framed one that burned all afternoon on the inside, as opposed to the other two made of reinforced concrete where only the flammable exterior cladding burned and only on one side of the building? IOW, WTC 7?

  • ❤️

    • The steel framed one that burned all afternoon on the inside, as opposed to the other two made of reinforced concrete where only the flammable exterior cladding burned and only on one side of the building? IOW, WTC 7?

  • Trump all the way!!!!

  • Trump all the way!!!!

  • This is the Federal Building in Oklahoma bombing it didn’t collapse after the initial explosion. There was more damage to this building then there was in tower 7 World Trade Center.

  • This is the Federal Building in Oklahoma bombing it didn’t collapse after the initial explosion. There was more damage to this building then there was in tower 7 World Trade Center.

  • The collapse of WTC 7 took over 16 seconds, about 2.25 seconds of which approached free fall acelleration. OTOH one could also easily make the claim that the collapse of WTC 7 took seven hours as damage kept mounting throughout the entire period between the collapse of WTC 1 and the final dust settling on WTC 7.

  • The collapse of WTC 7 took over 16 seconds, about 2.25 seconds of which approached free fall acelleration. OTOH one could also easily make the claim that the collapse of WTC 7 took seven hours as damage kept mounting throughout the entire period between the collapse of WTC 1 and the final dust settling on WTC 7.

  • The truth will set us free.

  • The truth will set us free.

  • Stephen Kirwan