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Texas Parents Told They Will Be Charged & Arrested if They Walk Their Children to School

Magnolia, TX — Walking your child to and from school in Magnolia, Texas can now end in your extortion through fines and even jail time thanks to a new policy implemented by the school’s principal. Bear Branch Elementary School parents have done some hard learning since the  year began about the relationship between schools and the American police state after they were told they will be charged with trespassing for walking their own children onto school grounds.

“She’s threatening to arrest people,” said Wendy Jarman to FOX 26 about principal, Holly Ray — and she’s correct. Since the beginning of the year, multiple parents have been cited, threatened with charges, and threatened with arrest for the entirely ordinary act of dropping off their kids at school.

Parents at the school have even started a petition and garnered hundreds of signatures to reverse what they are calling bully tactics. However, it has all been in vain.

Principal Ray is getting plenty of negative publicity for her policy, but she has no plans of changing it and has cops to back her up. The newly enacted policy is enforced by Montgomery County Constables.

“This has happened to many parents,” Jarman says. “They have been cited. They have been threatened, if they step one foot on school property, they will be arrested and charged with who knows what.”

Another parent pointed out, when speaking with FOX 26, that he was also threatened. The ridiculous nature of this policy, backed by the force of police, has now sent parents running for the door.

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Wendy Jarman has since pulled her children out and placed them in private school. Jarman, who lived in the neighborhood behind the school, used to enjoy the walks with her children and escorting them in to class — but they can’t do it anymore.

Frank Young is another parent who’s fled the school because of the police state tactics.

“Mrs. Ray’s policy is implying that a parent doesn’t have the ability or capability to decide what is safest for her children and that the school district does,” Young says. “I disagree.”

According to FOX 26, who asked the school district for a response on the matter, the policy is in effect with the goal of having a safe dismissal process. But what’s safer than allowing a parent to escort their children to and from school on foot?

According to many of the parents, who’ve been attending Bear Branch Elementary School for years, there was nothing unsafe about the old pick up and drop off procedures. And, according to FOX 26, the parents say this is merely a principal overstepping her boundaries.

According to Young, this policy has infuriated many of the other parents too, but they are simply going along to get along — something this brave parent refuses to do.

“The most toxic thing we can do for our kids is not fight for truth and justice,” Young says.

According to FOX 26, multiple other parents have been threatened with jail, but are not ready to speak about it publicly. Apparently, the tyranny in this school has gotten so bad that it’s not just parents who are leaving, but teachers and staff too.

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Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world. and now on Steemit
  • Boxer36

    This principal needs to be Baker-acted along with the County attorney.

  • MusouTensei

    She has to be fired and her licenses ave to be revoked forever, she is obviously not capable of her position.

  • David Daisy May Boldock

    It is and should be every parents right to make sure their child gets to school intact. Is this so called dolt of a principal a parent herself? One might doubt that given her asinine tactics. She needs educating.

  • Phil Freeman

    The public school indoctrination system operates exactly the same as the US prison industrial system. Remove your child from the tyranny. Public school prepares the students for a future cell. Single file lines, movement by bells, minimum nutrition, minimum instruction in academia, zero tolerance for questioning authority, a natural inability to protect its population from inside or out. It’s the doctrine of parens patriae, which means the state has a property interest in the child. From whence does this interest come?

  • Guy

    Back in the 50’s an 60’s here in small town Ca, we walked to and from our grammar, middle and even H.S. Mostly in groups, never with parents (to embarrassing) ! Never an issue.
    Now, in the name of political correctness there is this, and no great surprise, considering unisex bathrooms, gender identification issues, Billy has two dads, and suspension for little boys making imaginary pop tart guns.

    Wonder what’s coming next or when will they start teaching the koran in 4th grade ?

  • Jamie

    I don’t understand what the reasoning is behind this action. “A safe dismissal process” what the hell does that mean?

    • The Cat’s Vagina

      If this is the same cunt I’ve heard about before, then the mentality is that people who drive their kids to school get to pick them up, while the kids who walk have to wait 45 minutes to an hour before they’re dismissed. Parents are being threatened with arrest because they feel this classist bitch has no right to basically inflict a daily detention on their kids.

    • Andrew A Nyberg

      Its to ensure that the authorized people are picking up the kids and not some random stranger. Walking is still allowed but the kids that walk are not dismissed until about 30 minutes after the kids that leave on the bus and get picked up. This is a misleading article.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Kids are such stupid little things, aren’t they? Always getting into cars driven by people they don’t know.

  • tz1

    Homeschool.

    • DiMarco

      If all parents treaten to take kids out from this school, that means no funding for the school and then no principal…
      The School Board, Principal and other related officers should be recalled.

      • tz1

        Homeschooers are the most principled people. It is the public one that needs a priest with the title – but considering the actual principles, they are as much priests of Bacchus / Dionysus. Homeschooled children will get the reference.

  • IceTrey

    The parents should walk to school enmasse and make the cops arrest all of them. Civil disobedience people.

    • Sutter Cane

      good call

    • Michele Higbee Hixon

      Alliance Defending Freedom is a conservative legal team worth calling for this case

    • (((dagobarbz)))

      Ya don’t earn freedom by being a doormat, that’s for sure!

    • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

      And then not make a single “plea” bargain. Insist on a jury trial of your peers and make the local government go bankrupt in the process. Sue the crap out of everyone involved. The principal should become homeless due to her mental derangement.

    • Kipling

      Spot on. Further to that, if they stop at the edge of the grounds, also en masse, and then ANY child is injured in anyway, take the school to the cleaners in court….

      Wanna play the legal game school, get played back…

  • This article is poorly written. Why was this policy instated? Who instated it and when? Why is it legal?

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      If you do a search on, “Principle Holly Ray”, you will get additional sources of information like this:

      http://www.redhotconservative.com/tag/holly-ray/

      Something is very wrong with both the principal and the superintendent.

      • Andrew A Nyberg

        Do you have any other sources that arent baiting conservatives into thinking its some horrible liberal conspiracy?

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You don’t know how to do a search on the Internet like a did? You would rather steam at the article? Then at me for now reason at all? Impressive! Can’t you find a report coherent with the dogma that enslaves you?

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            I merely asked if you had any other sources besides a biased one. When information is fed to you that is verifiably false it is within your best interest to seek the truth. Im sorry if that offends you.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So you went and searched for one really biased, one with only the position of school district after it had stirred up a big fuss. Too bad you are offended by detailed documentation so much that you have to go find a short propaganda release that you of course call truth.

            Did you look at the others? That short propaganda release of yours was the only one that fit your ideological needs, right?

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            I also offered you the direct link to the schools website that addressed and explained it perfectly. Either your cognitive dissonance is strangling your thought process or you are just arguing for the sake of argument.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Thank you for linking me to the unsupported cover up.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            ITS ALL A LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!!! HAHAHAHA

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The school conspiracy looked like came out of Dick Cheney. It’s a hoot that you think he’s a liberal.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            ***facepalm***

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            It’s about time you covered up that deceitful mug. Don’t move your hand.

    • Andrew A Nyberg

      After a little more research, this article is really poorly written and made to attack public school policies. The actual policy is set that walkers are acceptable but are not released until all of the drop offs and pickups are gone.

      Just more bullshit propaganda.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Where’s the evidence of research?

        • Andrew A Nyberg

          http://m.chron.com/neighborhood/magnolia/news/article/District-clears-up-dismissal-policy-at-Bear-9723102.php

          I didnt think I would have to prove it to you. Perhaps if you looked at anything besides biased and misleading sources you could find it.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You just proved yourself a severely biased authoritarian by the minimal source you choose. You’re probably the kind they want to keep away from schools

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Its a statement made by the school. You can also find the same information on the schools website. Not sure why youre getting upset with me for showing you facts.

            But Im sure “TheRedHotConservative” is a great unbiased source for you to get your information.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The best you can do is the short propaganda release, and all the rest of the documentation be damned. You sound about as liberal as Debbie Wassermann Schultz.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            I gave you the direct link to the schools website explaining the situation and the policy that this article misled. Im sorry facts and reality offend you so much.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You seem to be the only one fooled by the school board’s cover up. Why?

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Youre the only dip that has responded with such nonsense. But thats fine. Youre entitled to your baseless accusations of liberal conspiracy theories. You do you bro.

          • avelworldcreator

            The site in question has a self-admitted bias, but its reporting has to be considered on its own merits; all else would be ad hominem

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Here, I did the research for you. This is the direct statement made to the parents by the superintendent. Now please, attack me some more because I have shown you facts beyond that of what you wanted to get upset about.

            http://bbes.magnoliaisd.org/apps/news/article/562313

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So to you a cover up is ‘facts’? John Podesta has a job for you.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Show me your proof that it is a cover up. Oh thats right. “TheRedHotConservative” somehow has all the “facts” because it is what you agree with. Everyone else is wrong because it goes against your firmly held beliefs. HAHA

            Cognitive dissonance suits you well.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Look at all the references. Look at all the details. Do you think a bunch of hardworking parents have the time to concoct that. It’s time for you to take the aluminum foil hat off.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Youre the one with this not-so-elaborate conspiracy theory. If I have a tinfoil hat you must be wearing a full tinfoil space suit.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So the parents made up that big long story spontaneously? It wasn’t a conspiracy?

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            You mean the parents that assaulted a teacher and got arrested? I have no doubt that they would make up any story they could to diminish their own idiotic actions. How can you be so sure any parent actually did it. Can you prove that person is actually a parent at that school and not just some made up story to hype up the article? Seeing as we like a good conspiracy and all…

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You mean the principal and the superintendent lie to cover up a law suit? Yes, very believable!

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Except noone is making that claim except you. So….apparently youre the only person that knows the truth! Better write an article for “TheRedHotConservative” Heavens know that it will be completely truthful and accurate.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Funny boy! I got 7 up-votes for the reference I gave. You didn’t collect any.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            OOOOH a whole 7? Wow youre so amazing!

          • Matthew Trzeciak

            So, up votes is the deciding factor for you? You get seven up-votes out of the millions of people on line and you decide that just because some drunk twit in Alabama agrees with you it must be fact? Moron!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Nope. it was much more detailed and did not consist of an obvious cover up all by itself. Thanks for identifying yourself at the end, Mr. Moron. Obviously it takes at least two drunken Alabama twits to make up your mind. Smart of you, Mr. Moron! Holly Ray and her superintendent will invite you for drinks tonight.

          • avelworldcreator

            Apparently truth is based on popularity in an echo chamber rather than fact-checking and critical thought.

  • FRANK

    The Montgomery County Constable is elected, each deputy constable is appointed by the elected constable and only serves while he/she is in office.
    Start a petition, recall this elected constable.
    The school board is also elected and the one who hired the principle of the school. Present the school board with a petition to fire the principle or recall the members of the school board.
    Removing your kids from the school is exactly what they want because it silences the opposition.
    Get involved or get ready for dictator to order every move you make. These liberal facist know how to do everything for your child better than you the parent. They will not stop until they are forced to stop.

    • Andrew A Nyberg

      “Liberal Fascist”

      I dont think you understand what those words mean. What you said is an oxymoron. Fascism is a right wing philosophy.

      • alan_1969
        • Andrew A Nyberg

          So he titled his book “liberal fascism.” Its still an oxymoron.

          Fascism: an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

          Its like saying “Fascist Communist” or “Liberal Conservative”

          They are all opposites. Definitions of words are important.

          • kajidono

            Nobody cares what the difference is between different kinds of repugnant garbage. The left fully supports it, the right opposes it. You’d think losing thousands of government positions over the past 8 years would give them a clue, but they’ll never learn. They aren’t capable.

          • Brian King

            Really cuz small tax towns are usually Republican

          • kajidono

            You mean those nasty little places where everyone has a gun, yet nobody gets shot? Unlike Chicago.

          • Brian King

            Actually y’all just cover it up better y’all have serial killers and meth labs and at least in Chicago ppl got a reason to kill each other like forced poverty caused by generations of discrimination and st Ronnie flooding the hood w drugs

          • kajidono

            Generations of discrimination in a city run by the democrats since the end of WWII. Just like every other city run entirely by the democrats for over half a century. Imagine that. And what did the great obama, with near total control over the federal government for several years, do about it? NOTHING.

            You people are a joke. One that has now thankfully ended.

          • Brian King

            Lol first of all Republican ruñ businesses had just as much to do with it since they were the ones actually doing the discrimination and 2nd of all st Ronnie your fav president of Iran contra fame was obviously a Republican and Obama had control of the govt for 7 years? Come on now oh and nah actually your beloved trump is gunna turn this country into a joke starting w your social security

          • kajidono

            Funny you should mention the Contras. Weren’t they rebels fighting against the government? Kinda like the islamist rebels fighting against the Syrian government, the islamist rebels fighting against the Libyan government, the rebels that overthrew the egyptian government, the islamist rebels that overthrew the government in Yemen (weren’t they backed by Iran?), and on and on. All happily funded by the obama administration.

            Meanwhile, Reagan had the economy growing at 5-6% while obama is the first president in the history of this nation to not even manage 3%. Reagan also took down the USSR and his tax policy was so horrible that Bill Clinton used it to balance the budget (which still did nothing to reduce the actual debt, but you love to brag about it anyway).

            The recent elections, nationwide, should be a clue that your excuses and attempts to blame republicans for everything that you have been in charge of have been rejected. But as I said, you’re not capable of learning from your mistakes. Which makes you and your nutty fringe party a joke.

          • Brian King

            Lmao you must get your shit from rush cus everybody knows Reagan and bush made the national debt go off the charts and caused a recession but managed to fool you buffer whites into voting for him in masse again and Reagan took down the USSR? Lol he wouldn’t been able to do shit w/o Gorbachev so get off that high horse and Clinton used Reagans trickle down economics to balance the economy? Are you kidding me? Too much meth for you

          • kajidono
          • Brian King

            Oh and dumbass this whole Syrian regime change was planned by dubya they planned to overthrow 7 countries right after 9/11 Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia was exposed back in 06 where tf you been

          • kajidono

            Funny how they didn’t, but the democrats went ahead with it, and made a TOTAL MESS of it. Good job, geniuses.

          • Brian King

            But they planned it out and did 2 of those countries and were the ones pushing for war in Libya and Syria if Obama had decided to stay outta Libya y’all rethugs would be calling for his blood and as for making a total mess of it y’all republicons have Iraq so y’all can’t say shit

          • kajidono

            lol at a bunch of “if” and “would have’s”. YOU WENT AND DID IT.

            And I do have something to say that you can’t do a damn thing about.

            We win, you lose, cry more.

          • Brian King

            Lol you think I’m a dem nah fuck that there two sides of the same damn coin I rise above it I’ll let you have that bullshit Obama and bush were working for the same wall st bankers and the last real prez was JFK so get tf out with that my party is better beating your chest and shit bush actually did it too

          • kajidono

            Yup, Bush was in the wall street crowd. The part you missed was that same crowd fighting so hard against Trump because he’s not part of it and won’t take any shit from them. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/1/1616133/-Trump-Humiliates-Billionaire-David-Koch-By-Throwing-Him-His-Guest-Off-Trump-Golf-Course

            I didn’t vote republican. I voted to take it all back. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a0976bbdbce8f7d88f43e7af9746a30604c69c116d69aa4dd10ff8def70e4fca.jpg

          • Brian King

            Then you fell for the act cus trump promised wall st that he would end regulations on banks and cut taxes for the rich after he was elected and plus trump has always been a good friend of the Clinton’s they went to his wedding they play golf together and and shit and no I don’t buy the “he made them go or he wouldn’t donate to their foundation” bullshit it just don’t add up plus henry Kissinger the biggest insider ever is on his side the wall won’t stop the flow of drugs they fly them in and ship them in which costs more for the drug dealers and traffickers and cuts competition for the fat cat drug lords

          • kajidono

            We’ll have to see, then. But you are reminding me of all the people who argued themselves into the ground against my assertion that drilling for our own oil would lower the price. They insisted till they were blue in the face that our oil production would NEVER affect the price of oil on the global market. And then it did.

          • Brian King

            Def not the same subject when he has showed himself to be a puppet of Wall st who used racism to get support of buffer whites (he really is a racist tho) and the so called “media persecution” and global elites denouncing him was cus they don’t wanna be seen as racist but there actions are racist. Trump is just more open about it and that friendliness to Russia is promoted by Kissinger not cus he suddenly approves of Putin but its an old cold war strategy to pit Russia against its ally China and Putin is either going along with it or playing along. Its why trump condemns China an ally of Russian just an old divide and conquer strategy

          • Lawn Man

            Trump is also a donor to both sides of the isle. Anti Establishment my Ass,

          • Lawn Man

            I was waiting for this comment. Thank you. Both parties are the wings of the same bird. Both disgusting. They all work for the same bankers and are in bed with the big corporations.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Total control? Republicans controlled the House and the Senate for half of his administration and blocked most of his actions. They also cut veteran funding, education, social security and many other things that actually help the American people. All while blaming it on Obama.

          • kajidono

            They passed obamacare without a single republican vote. That’s total control and they held it for at least two years. And that one horribly written bill stole over $700 billion from medicaid to fund it’s gargantuan uselessness.

            AND THEN YOU LOST. lol

          • “That’s total control and they held it for at least two years.”

            That’s called the Supermajority Myth. The Democrats held power for 2 weeks, not 2 years. They lost their super majority (60 out of 100 votes) in the Senate for 2 weeks.

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-m-granholm/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869.html

          • Colin Campbell

            Can you support the idea that fascism is right wind ideology? BTW – nationalism and fascism have little to do with each other as fascism is a form of socialism.

          • alan_1969

            “It is obvious what the fraudulent issue of fascism versus communism accomplishes: it sets up, as opposites, two variants of the same political system; it eliminates the possibility of considering capitalism; it switches the choice of “Freedom or dictatorship?” into “Which kind of dictatorship?”—thus establishing dictatorship as an inevitable fact and offering only a choice of rulers. The choice—according to the proponents of that fraud—is: a dictatorship of the rich (fascism) or a dictatorship of the poor (communism).

            That fraud collapsed in the 1940’s, in the aftermath of World War II. It is too obvious, too easily demonstrable that fascism and communism are not two opposites, but two rival gangs fighting over the same territory—that both are variants of statism, based on the collectivist principle that man is the rightless slave of the state—that both are socialistic, in theory, in practice, and in the explicit statements of their leaders—that under both systems, the poor are enslaved and the rich are expropriated in favor of a ruling clique—that fascism is not the product of the political “right,” but of the “left”—that the basic issue is not “rich versus poor,” but man versus the state, or: individual rights versus totalitarian government—which means: capitalism versus socialism.” http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/fascism_and_communism-socialism.html

      • David Whitmore

        Really?
        Hitler was a fascist. He was NOT right wing. National Socialism was extreme ‘Left’.

        • clquake

          Fascism is extreme right wing. Pure definition. There is no debate of what it means. You can debate if Hitler was a fascist, however, you cannot debate the definition of the word.

          • kajidono

            It’s crap, is what it is. Nobody on the traditional American right supports it.

            What you can’t explain is why the muslims in the Turkish empire were allied with the Nazis or why the modern democrat party has gone to such great lengths to support extremist muslim ideologies around the world. They’ve also done their best to spread it as far as possible, with obama dumping over 500 more unvetted “refugees” in Nebraska just the other day. All while trying to pick a war with Russia and leaving Israel to twist in the wind.

          • Brian King

            Really Obama was about to bomb Syria for the Zionists in 2013 and continues to aid Isis (Israeli secret intelligence service aka mossad) which are fake Muslims run by Israeli agent Elliott shimon and Russia is in the way of the Zionists by the way and also unvetted refugees? Lol where you get that from wnd? You really need to check yourself before you post on here cus your catching L’s left and right

          • kajidono

            Oh, you’re an anti semite too. Big surprise. Do tell us more about your wild conspiracy theories. Try to stick to english, though.

          • Brian King

            Hahahaha anti semite you don’t even know wtf that means lemme school you on that real quick Semites are descendants of Shem not just Jacob so let’s see you hate on Iran aka Persia which come from the elamites so anti Semitic also you hate on Arabs which are Ishmael more descendants of Shem so you anti Semitic as fuck also did you know the Most High is antisemitic cus he hates edomites who are descendants of Shem so actually its not bad to be antisemitic cus the Bible says to follow his example

          • kajidono

            Persians are fine. Ask them their opinion of the trash arabs that run Iran and brutalise them every day. Where were the leftists during the so called arab spring when the Persians started to rise up against the islamic dictators that run Iran? They, and you, didn’t have a single word to say. But you have no problem giving known terrorists $150 billion in cash.

            Scum.

          • Brian King

            Lol Iran is run by Arabs wtf you smoking, wtf Arab spring was in 2011, so called “green revolution” funded by the AIPAC owned US govt happened in 09 when Obama the one you love to hate took office and btw Obama wasn’t a leftist he was a centrist JFK was the last real leftist prez and Bernie woulda been one had Republican lite hrc and the so called Democratic national convention not rigged it against him and you republicans support Israeli state terrorism against both Muslim and Christian Arabs who brag about killing babies y’all are sick fucks

          • Brian King

            Also you say I’m an “anti Semite” just cus I criticize the Zionist regime so based on your logic your anti American for criticizing the us govt oh and also do look up my “conspiracy theory” Google operation hornets nest Edward Snowden for me class dismissed oh and by the way this L is yours you know you can’t leave your shit in my class

          • avelworldcreator

            Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Where is your evidence? And being on the “traditional American right” does not alter the meaning of words.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
            http://www.thefreedictionary.com/facist

          • kajidono

            Harp on about the meaning till the heat death of the universe, nobody cares.

          • avelworldcreator

            And you made claims other than simple word meaning. You made outright accusations which you are currently evading any accountability for. Evasion is usually a sign that you are lying or that you are uncomfortable with the idea that you’ve accepted crap from other sources and regurgitated it without critical thought or analysis. And your arrogance in asserting that “nobody cares” when it’s only you that doesn’t care is not only hubris but shows either you are an unthinking idiot or an unrepentant, self-righteous liar. The fact that the word meaning has even become a topic of debate between multiple people shows that those people do care about the topic enough to argue about it. That you deny this in the middle of that very debate shows you are either oblivious to what is going on around you or that you aren’t but are hoping that anyone reading your words aren’t paying attention to your mistruths.

          • kajidono

            I believe they’ll do their own research without the need for some self righteous pedant preaching endlessly at them. But given the easily verifiable fact that democrats have lost over 1000 seats in government during the reign of the great emperor puttsmost the failure, they already have. And there’s the basis of my assertion of them not caring about the details that I’m sure you will go on and on and on and on and on about forever.

            That and I actually go outside and talk to people. I know they don’t care because they’ve said so. In droves. Speaking of which, I’m gonna go out and buy a new car. Cause I feel like it.

          • avelworldcreator

            You made a claim using a specific article link to support that claim. I rebutted that claim. I actually did the research over several hours of fact checking and critical analysis. I reported my findings and analysis. That’s called “accountability”. Something so far you have shown a definite lack of.

            That a given party has lost seats in a government only shows that they didn’t win a popularity contest. It does not reflect the amount of research and analysis any given person may, or may not, have engaged in before deciding on how to cast their vote. To claim otherwise is a non sequitur. But your assertion was nobody cares about a certain topic right in the middle of a debate about that very topic is beyond moronic. People don’t debate things they don’t care about. Hand waving to a group of people that are not involved in the debate does not mean that none of them lack interest, especially if that other group is unaware of the conversation. Your assumption otherwise is further evidence of your arrogance and stupidity.

            But go look at your previous posts and see what other claims you’ve made and haven’t made an accounting for. I’m waiting to see if you are one of: a liar, a person too ignorant and lazy to examine claims made critically and winds up parroting the lies of others, or just a coward who’s unwilling to back up their words with evidence and not just further claims.

          • kajidono

            You are advocating for a woman who laughed repeatedly about a case in which she defended a pedophile who raped a 12 year old girl. She’s on audio doing it, and she’s proven herself prone to laugh at things that should not be laughed it.

            She also laughed about killing Gaddafi, on video, after which the government of Libya lost control of the country and it remains a lawless state run by various islamic groups. Weapons have been seized from abandoned Libyan military bases by those groups, shipped to Syria and put in the hands of terrorist organizations like ISIS, Al Nusra and Al Qaeda, who use them to commit further atrocities and genocide on innocent civilians. I know this because they like to record it in high definition and post it online to brag about it.

            Most of the “migrants” attempting to cross the Mediterranean, with over 5000 dying in the process in the last year alone, are leaving from the lawless shores of Libya. The mess she and obama made and then left to fester. The one that your precious, perfect EU is slowly choking to death on.

            This is all proven fact. This is what you support. And when you’re trying to cover things like this up by using as many words as possible, people stop caring what you’re saying. That’s human nature.

            If you want to know what a leftist is up to, just look at what he’s accusing other people of doing. There’s your arrogance and stupidity.

          • avelworldcreator

            I doubt you are going to read this through. So far I suspect you are of the “tl;dr” class unless it’s someone who’s commentary you already follow closely.

            Rebutting false claims is not the same as advocacy for the target of those claims. I was dealing with a liar and who they were lying about was irrelevant. If he made similar claims about my worst enemy I’d still respond the same way. She did not laugh about the case but side events that occurred during the history. Of course trying to make that point with someone who has demonstrated a distinct inability to critically examine information, fact check, and an extreme tendency to be loosely associative along with other traits that suggest a level of mild delusional thinking like yourself may be a waste of time. Your claim that she has proven herself to laugh at things “that should not be laughed at” is made without evidence. The reason you come across as self-righteous and arrogant is because you have put yourself unilaterally as an authority as to what other people should, or should not, laugh at. What people find as funny or amusing is very personal because it reflects their immediate feelings about some element of a situation, but the underlying cause of laughter is… shock, not hatred or animosity towards others.

            Gaddafi was a long-standing enemy of the U.S. Many people took great delight in his demise and laughed about it (no, I did not). It’s not a noble trait but human beings have had a historic tendency to laugh at the misfortunes our greatest enemies. What happened to the country afterwards was a travesty but Mrs. Clinton is not a responsible party. Criminals are responsible for their own conduct; trying to blame some scapegoat is itself a form of criminal thinking.

            Libya made their own mess and is continuing to do so all on their own. I made not comment of support about the EU or any other political organization. Of course making blanket claims about other people without objective evidence is normal for you. Did you catch that word? “Objective”? Yeah. That means it doesn’t depend on anecdote, feelings, or other subjective criteria. Most of the migrants? Care to point to a source of this allegation? Referring to them as “migrants” is erroneous . The correct term is refugees. Migrants voluntarily leave their original homes for what they perceive is a better place; refugees are running in terror to any safe harbor they can find. Consider what you said about the conditions in Libya.

            You claim something is “proven fact”. Care to provide object sources of these “facts”? You haven’t done very well so far. And you claim I’m trying to support something. ‘fraid not. The old saying that “An enemy of my enemy is a friend” has long been discredited. Just because I confronted the claims of one of Mrs. Clinton’s attackers doesn’t mean I care one whit about Mrs. Clinton herself or her politics. This election I had to decide which candidate sucked the least. In fact I had to decide which one I absolutely did not want to win; that is who was more a piece of shit than the others so I could vote against him or her. Where the fuck did you get the absolutely insane idea I had any desire to see a twit like Mrs. Clinton holding high office? I didn’t care much for a lot that Obama did either but that doesn’t I’m about to accept any accusations made against them without objective evidence. Yes, I’ll even defend you against false claims made by others. But as long as you keep spewing crap from others and not take responsibility for your own claims I’ll keep cracking on you. Honestly, you are probably not an actual idiot but no one has ever bothered to teach you essential skills in critical thinking and instead spent more time finding your emotional “buttons” and pushed them until the point you no longer can think straight. At least I can tell you try to think more than the “SJW” types. Got to give you credit for that.

            I did start this reply by including some insulting commentary towards you which is contrary to my usual patterns – I have my bad days too. I had just spent many hours fact checking and carefully analyzing the references in your cited source and your evasions didn’t go over well. If you check my comments elsewhere you will discover I have just went to bat for a conservative site as well. Someone had denied the accuracy of the an article there solely due to the conservative bias. I examined the article and found it essentially accurate. After that I confronted the person making the accusation with that and pointed out his fallacy in attacking the article just because of its source (I believe it was the Red Hot Conservative site). If I challenge an article on a right-wing site for spewing bullshit that doesn’t make me leftist, same as when I do that to left-wing sites (and I have done this – often). It just makes me anti-bullshit.

          • kajidono

            No evidence, you say? Your research skills are lacking to say the least.

            Hillary laughing about killing Gaddafi: https://youtu.be/UtH7iv4ip1U
            Hillary laughing about the Benghazi attack: https://youtu.be/jmD-4F6JI6w
            Here’s part of the original tape. CNN isn’t even buying it:https://youtu.be/ifNCMdNBk3c

            Not to mention how she treated Bill’s alleged rape victims over the years. Unless, like her, you want to discount the testimony of his victims and attack them for daring to say anything.

            I was alive when Carter was president. My second cousin was an intern in the Clinton white house. So you can throw snopes quotes or whatever at me till you’re blue in the face, I grew up with these people. I KNOW what they’re like, I’ve SEEN what they’re like. Hillary is bonafide monster, and insane.

            As for Libya, yes, when you collapse a nation’s government and then just walk away (while laughing), knowing that the enemy you’re supposed to be fighting is waiting in the wings to take it over (radical islamic jihad), you are responsible. She handed control of Libya to terrorists, who the refugees are now fleeing from, or taking advantage of the lawless region to pass through.

            Again, your research skills are sadly lacking:
            https://www.rt.com/news/359486-refugees-migrants-libya-italy/
            https://thinkprogress.org/why-so-many-refugees-are-fleeing-to-europe-from-libya-f95d570f4d81

            Seriously, did you even look? There’s a dozen more links like those on the first page alone.

          • Joe Palooka

            Hillary was an instrument to remove Qaddafi for the international bankers.
            I hope she suffers a similar fate because she destroyed real hope for the continent.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek
            The Green Book Muammar al-Qaddafi
            http://openanthropology.org/libya/gaddafi-green-book.pdf

          • Lawn Man

            I didn’t read the book, but I’m going to. It’s all because of the petro dollar. What a mess.

          • (((dagobarbz)))

            Drop your keyboards and take to the streets. Or argue about commie vs. fascist until all your parents are in jail for watching over their own kids.

          • Bruce Darling

            NSDAP = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, oder auf Englisch: National Socialist German Workers Party. You have much to learn.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Hitler took over the party early on because socialism was popular. After he won he changed the party into a fascist regime. They were no longer socialist by that point. History and facts are important.

          • Bruce Darling

            If facts are important to you, then you will spend some time trying to understand why National Socialism post 1933 was not much different from National Socialism pre-1933. In the years after 1933, Germany was very much a socialist nation, albeit not in the vein of Stalinist Russia. Attempts to assign National Socialism to the right and communism to the left are based on misunderstanding of the objectives and organization of each form “government”. The principal difference was that Hitler realized early on that there was nothing to be gained by declaring ownership by the state of the means of production, which was the primary factor accounting for the much higher standard of living among Pre-WWII Germans than among Russians. Other than than, much of the German economy (with respect to heavy industry) was most definitely directed/led by the state. There was not much about this that was “right wing” or “capitalist” as we understand the terms today.

          • David Whitmore

            O.K.
            Now equate his society with the outrageous actions of this Principal; the School Board and the police/Sherriff’s Dept that are enforcing these rules.

            What if it was your child? Do you ever need to get them into school with a Doctor’s Slip? Or take medication into the School’s Nurse? Or pick them up early from class?
            Parent’s are arrested if they go onto School property. This same land that parents pay taxes to support; property which IS Public Land. Public land that ALL citizens have the right to access.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            You do realize that this article is severely misinformed and parents can walk their children to and from school at the beginning and end of the day right? They just have to wait because walkers are released 20 minutes after the people that get picked up and take the bus. The only person that was arrested was last spring when a parent assaulted a teacher and the police had to be called so they are more protective now to prevent unauthorized people from taking the children.

            If parents have an appointment they will have a guest pass and be allowed on the property. A little research goes a long way.

            http://m.chron.com/neighborhood/magnolia/news/article/District-clears-up-dismissal-policy-at-Bear-9723102.php

            https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/ne1YT1ZxvW9IgjmR1rezKgdxhuuXh2OiUc7aWuwy5aWBDcww.pdf

        • Chris Blackmore

          I see people are still perpetuating the lie Hitler told. He called his gang National Socialists to fool people. It’s still working.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Exactly! Im not even sure what Hillary has to do with any of this. Strawman and Red Herrings are everywhere in this discussion!

        • Andrew A Nyberg

          Hitler used “The National Socialist Party” because at the time of his rise he was very unpopular. However, communism and socialism were on a rise. So he took over an already established party. Once he became leader they were no longer socialist but fascist but their name remained the same. So please, read some history before spouting out nonsense you know nothing about.

      • Colin Campbell

        Actually fascism is a form of socialism. The liberals have spent so long calling anybody who dares to disagree with them a ‘fascist’ that nobody bothers to read up on fascism because they think that what the liberals claim is true.

        If you disagree with me – please do so by pointing out the differences between Bernie Sander’s economic platform and the fascist economic model. (I suspect that you will be in for a real shock when you compare the two.)

      • FRANK

        Why don’t you spend your time encouraging or explaining to people how they can make a difference instead of insulting and arguing with everyone you disagree with.
        The very well written and also very well documented article “Magnolia ISD Dr Stephens Where Is The Truth” written by Ginger on April 19 responds very well to most of the disinformation you have made in the numerous post here.
        In regards to a Liberal facist here is a brief quote from Accuracy In Media in the article titled “Liberal Facist Explained”.

        The side of fascism he attributes to American liberalism is not that associated with the works of George Orwell or the racism and genocide of the Holocaust. It is much less brutal, “smiley-face fascism,” as he puts it. He asserts that liberals hold political principles which are similar to those found in many fascist regimes. They have a desire to form a powerful state which coordinates a society where everybody belongs and everyone is taken care of; where there is faith in the perfectibility of people and the authority of experts; and where everything is political, including health and well-being. Apparently, the Nazis were strong promoters of organic foods and animal rights, fought against large department stores, and promoted antismoking and public health drives.
        According to Goldberg, fascism has a long history in American politics, spanning back to Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Goldberg even finds fascist tendencies within the presidencies of John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and Bill Clinton as each tried to create an “all-caring, all-powerful, all-encompassing” state. His book traces more recent signs of fascist ideology in the economic ideas of Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and Al Gore.
        The post was to inform people how they can change things at the school lawfully, peacefully and without anyone getting arrested. Of course it’s just my opinion YMMV.

      • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

        One side of the scale is freedom. The other side is ALL of the “isms”. Some are a bit closer to the freedom side, but most are not.

        • Andrew A Nyberg

          Political and social ideologies use proper terms that end in “ism”

          What do you refer to as freedom? Capitalism? Isnt that also an “ism”?

      • Dave

        Fascism was influenced by both left and right, conservative and
        anti-conservative, national and supranational, rational and
        anti-rational.
        A number of historians regard fascism either as a revolutionary
        centrist doctrine, as a doctrine that mixes philosophies of the left and
        the right, or as both those things. Fascism was founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists who drew upon left-wing and right-wing political views.

        Benito Mussolini in 1919 described fascism as a movement that would strike “against the
        backwardness of the right and the destructiveness of the left”

        Following the defeat of the Axis Powers in World War II, the term fascist has been used as a pejorative, often referring to widely varying movements across the political spectrum.George Orwell wrote in 1944 that “the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless … almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist'” (Wiki)

    • Michael P. Molloy

      Fascism is only defined as “right wing” by those who have no solid grip on what a real political spectrum looks like.

    • Matthew Trzeciak

      I agree w/ every point that you have made. But, please don’t consider this a liberal idea. It’s simply a principal without principles… Labelling doesn’t do anything to solve a problem or find solutions… BTW, please explain what a liberal fascist is?

    • Humanity1st

      You are damn liar, in the middle of fascist exctintion from Trump and his nazis, you call liberals “Fascist”? Sounds to me like you are deliberately trying to guide people into supporting Fascism, by falsely accusing liberals of being you. You,

      • FRANK

        Please explain the statement “in the middle of fascist extinction from Trump and his nazis” what exactly are trying to say?
        It appears that you are so angry you can’t write a coherent thought. I am truly sorry that an exchange of ideas brought this reaction out in you.
        As far as being a liar, everything I said is factual and verifiable, please take your medication and calm down. Being a liberal should not be so stressful.

    • (((dagobarbz)))

      You’re seriously calling them liberals? Uh…yeah. What planet are YOU from? This is Texas, it doesn’t get much redder than that.

      • FRANK

        Have you ever been to Austin? Texas is also one of the most popular destinations for liberals due to the excellent job market, reasonable housing and low taxes. The liberals don’t leave there liberal ideas at the state line when they move here. Texas won’t be a red state much longer with the influx of illegal immigration coming into the state. Just because you live in Texas doesn’t make you a conservative anymore than living in New York automatically makes you a liberal. Its the ideology that the person adheres to and practices, like the principle who practices liberal ideas which she is going to force down your throat with school regulations, threats of expelling your child, making you wait an extra 30 minutes to an hour to have the privilege of walking your child to school and when all else fails having you arrested. Sounds like facist liberal policies in practice.

        • (((dagobarbz)))

          Yanno, if Texas went after the people who lure immigrants up with jobs instead of scuttling around trying to arrest random people, you wouldn’t have that problem. Arrest the restaurant owners and contractors, penalize them such that it gets their attention and discourages them from ever hiring undocumented help again. No jobs, no reason to immigrate, right?

  • Larry Brothers

    Wallk your children to school. Make them arrest you. Then do it the next day. Keep doing it till they stop. Don’t be cowards.

    • Sutter Cane

      not everone can afford that, or private schools and here in America ending up in jail can get you murdered. they need to do something but what you are suggesting could be life threatening.

      • David Lee

        Sutter Cane, you are a coward. End of conversation.

        • irvpost

          David Lee, you are the moron. What happens to the kids hen single mother is jailed? Will the kids be handed over to child welfare, how many times do you think mom can be arrested before some wackjob declares her an unfit mother and completely take over everything for the child. It is easy to be brave when you have nothing to lose! Just sit back and let your principles keep you warm and fed.

      • Andrew A Nyberg

        Getting arrested can also make you lose your job. Give you a record and so much more. All of these keyboard warriors are nothing more than just that, a loser behind a screen.

        • Jamie Sorensen

          Getting arrested for protesting an unjust law will get you …….fired? Really? Andrew, you can call me a KB warrior, but I have stood in -30C snow storms, been pepper-sprayed by police, physically banned from entering buildings, and gang tackled by the City of Calgary’s finest police state trained mongrels….all to protest bad government. If you want change, you have to be a part of it. If you don’t want to help, GTFO of the way and keep your pansy-ass sissy responses to yourself!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Wow! Nice slamming!

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Did I say Jamie Sorensen is a keyboard warrior? No, I was referring to the people saying that the parents should stand up and do something otherwise they are pussies.

            And yes, getting arrested can get you fired. Perhaps you work in a place that understands your plight and will give you a pass for missing multiple days of work for sitting in jail because the cause resonates with them. Unfortunately, here in reality, most people that miss work for being in jail for multiple days in a row would be let go. Not to mention the other burdens brought on by sitting in jail. What happens when that parent is a single parent. Who takes care of the child then? How long before the courts decide you have been arrested too much and are unfit to keep your children?

            Now, to get back to the article, its all made up bullshit to infuriate the masses anyways. The article is misleading and false. So your anger should be directed at the asshat that wrote it rather than at someone giving you the information.

            http://m.chron.com/neighborhood/magnolia/news/article/District-clears-up-dismissal-policy-at-Bear-9723102.php

            https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/ne1YT1ZxvW9IgjmR1rezKgdxhuuXh2OiUc7aWuwy5aWBDcww.pdf

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Thank you for linking us to the unsupported cover up twice. Thought you were being clever, eh?

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            ITS A LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!!! Only one biased news source on the other side othe country has the truth!!!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, it’s a Nyberg conspiracy of one. Everybody else ran away.

          • Matthew Trzeciak

            Yes it’s so brave of you to put other peoples kids, jobs, and lives on the line… Come on up to Western Massachusetts if you really want to call some one a pansy ass-sissy. I’ll be your huckleberry…

          • Jamie Sorensen

            Any fucking time, brother! Trip on up here. They will NEVER find your body up here!

          • Matthew Trzeciak

            Ooh tough guy… I think I was the one who invited you… Bring it on…

          • avelworldcreator

            I don’t think he was speaking about people like you. He’s talking about those who simply demand others take the risks like you’ve taken while they just remain in the comfort of their homes and hope to reap the benefits of your work. Same idea as “armchair quarterbacks” if you know what I mean. I’ve gone to jail for my beliefs too and know the difficulties that can result – we both do – he’s just telling it like it is. Of course there are some people who simply have too many people depending on them being stable and can’t risk acting like we have.

          • Melissa Currence

            The aforementioned comment is what is wrong with America and much of the rest of the world, as well. In 1944 American teenagers stormed the beaches of Normandy and died by the 1000s to stop fascism and now grown adults cower in fear of a hand slapping for civil disobedience – when you ridicule someone you don’t even know for being a “keyboard warrior” you are simply projecting your own cowerdice / laziness

      • Jamie Sorensen

        Their fear campaign worked on you I see…

    • Sutter Cane

      maybe you’re not up on current events butsome cops are dangerous.

      • Karl

        But pedophile teachers and principals are not?

        • Andrew A Nyberg

          Those are very rare compared to killer cops who can get away with killing you to protect their ego.

      • Jamie Sorensen

        It’s too hard so don’t bother??? Grow a set!

      • disqus_vZHfgxb6tX

        Cops are dangerous because most of them are pumping steroids into their bodies to bulk up, feel like superman, and bust heads. They become dangerous when they get excited…..then they ‘roid rage and beat people for no reason, or worse, kill them. All police officers who exhibit violent behavior should be immediately tested for steroids, and any found to have them in their system should be prosecuted to the fullest extent..

  • mandocan

    What a bunch of dorks! Are you people afraid of everthing?

    • heraymo

      some people are ok with living in the dark.

  • avelworldcreator

    You know this story is months old don’t you? It goes back to April of 2016 and I can’t find any follow up at all. A whole new school year has started and not even a peep of complain. Anyone have any new info outside of all the “me too” conservative sites?

    • Andrew A Nyberg

      I checked into it and it looks like the actual policy is that parents walking their kids are acceptable but those children are not released until after all of the pickups and dropoffs are finished. It is a process to keep an eye on all of the children so someone that is unauthorized doesnt go away with your kid.

      This is a horrible article that is just baiting people to quick anger without knowing facts and blaming it on a liberal conspiracy.

      • avelworldcreator

        I found the same links as you did (and as I reply I just noticed a spelling error in my original post – so much for my proofreading!) The Free Thought Project is a muckraking site; so it’s focused more on flaming emotional response over critical thinking. That’s fine because there is a real place for that kind of thing but it means the reader has to fact check on their own more (and that’s a good thing!)

        Personally I tend to find this site to be liberal with an anti-government bias with a few more conservative postings thrown into the mix, IMHO.

  • PatrickHenry

    File a lawsuit. The school is PUBLIC property.

  • Desert Rat

    Bunch of sheep complying to a thug, backed by the most dangerous gang in America.

  • Blaq Knite

    Something is missing here. What caused this to happen? Who are the dumb ass parents that got into a fight at the school like the idiot parents at a little league game? The response is over the top, but something had to cause this to happen. If there is nothing on record as what caused this then this has to be fixed. We’ve seen the abuse that can happen when you are not allowed to visit a daycare. The news is full of stories about stuff like that. Something had to trigger this. Even if a few stupid parents are at the root of this charge them and respect the rights of the parents that are civil.

  • Undecider

    Just pull your kids out. Let a serious lack of student body get their attention. Seriously now, you’re going to go through all this trouble just to get your kids’ brains turned into scrambled eggs from Common Core? Don’t concern yourself. Public school, these days, is overrated.

  • stuart21

    Is it 1984 already?

    • heraymo

      yes it is ;p

    • Jamie Sorensen

      Almost….More than 80% of people do not want to awaken. They know there is a shit-show brewing, but they steadfastly believe that shit-show will go right past their own doors and not touch them. Sad!

      • Phil Freeman

        One cannot be conscious of being unconscious.

  • Alfred

    I’d love to get worked into an angry frothing rage but this is too terrible an article for that. No where does it actually say what the policy is, why it was implemented or if there is any good or bad precedence. It’s just several paragraphs rambling on about how crazy this Principle is, and the only evidence giving is parental outrage. The sad fact it parental outrage is an inexhaustible resource that doesn’t need any conservation efforts. Yes, this policy sounds quite stupid and the ominous use of the phrase ‘police state’ is ominous, sadly real explanations are still required.

    • Andrew A Nyberg
      • TecumsehUnfaced

        That’s the cover up by the principal and superintendent. This is the detailed story:

        http://www.redhotconservative.com/tag/holly-ray/

        Which do you believe?

        • Andrew A Nyberg

          Lol here, this made up bullshit is the real story! HAHA You crack me up.

          • avelworldcreator

            I will grant the photo of the sign and documents look legit. To call them “made up bullshit” requires evidence of falsification; I see none. I also see no evidence that this issue appeared ex nilho; there had to have been something significant to bring the attention of the local media. I suspect a principal just set policy without getting prior input from the community in advance. If this is the case then her actions were definitely arrogant and despotic. They may have backpedaled when confronted with the outcry and adjusted the policy accordingly. Without seeing the official school website prior to the controversy we have no knowledge of what the policy was at the beginning of the outside of that source other than the photographed documents presented by the other site. The existence of those, if valid, is cause for concern with regards to the transparency of the officials’ conduct.

  • Doc

    WAIT A MINUTE, THIS UNELECTED SCHOOL OFFICIAL IS BULLYING COWARDLY SPINELESS PARENTS TO DO SOMETHING OR NOT TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS THEIR RIGHT!!
    THESE COWARDLY SPINELESS PARENTS OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES!!
    WHAT AN EXAMPLE TO SET FOR THEIR CHILDREN!!
    AMERIKKKA IS IN DEEP TROUBLE!!!

    • rav1

      Doc – your caps lock is broken – have it fixed.

      • Andrew A Nyberg

        BUT IF A SHOUT IT MAKES MY OPINION MORE IMPORTANT!

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You should do it more. It fits your native silliness.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            “native silliness” Im guessing you use the words “bigly” and “yuge” too

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, your vocabulary is too embarrassing for me to use.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            Because its too “bigly” for your “yuge” brain to understand. 😉

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Bye, bye, you may now play your silly games with rav1, the only one that upvoted you.

        • rav1

          I gotcha, Andy. I’ve noticed you have made many points – withOUT shouting. Thank you for your obvious consideration.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You like all your points taken to be broken, eh? You even upvoted this clown. You’re the only one that did. I guess that makes you think you’re clever.

        • BackPorchGeezer

          You’re still reading this?

  • FiuToYou

    Just when you thought you heard it all?????????

  • heraymo

    the way i see it is it makes it easier for our perverted politicians. to steal and then rape children. come one pizzagate anyone . this need to stop now

  • KingAdrock

    What exactly can a parent be arrested for? Since when does a school policy have force of law?

  • Bob Garballa

    You call this land of the free?! only thing that is missing is the bars, and it could be Jail.

  • chris

    the parents need to either go to the school board and have the crazy woman removed or remove their kids from that school.

  • Larry Capponi

    America is so fkd up , you people are such a huge bunch of losers

  • Al Wright

    So, just what is happening in that school that parents are not allowed to see?

  • Kevin Calegari

    I could see this going a couple ways. Either staff/children leave the school and the school has to close and or merges with another, the bunch of the mothers find out where the principal lives and kidnap her to demand she recinds the rule and back off from them or someone torches/vandalises the school where they have to close it anyway. Either way it will end badly for Mrs. Ray. The bottom line is you don’t threaten the parents especially the mothers as this enables the flight/fight mechanism especially if they feel they are loosing control over their children.

  • LawrenceNeal

    Walk your kid to the other side of the street from the school, watch them use the crosswalk.

  • Jackie Kirnbauer

    In Canada i could walk in and sit down in my kids class I would be expected not interrupt but otherwise i would be legally entitled to watch.

  • lakesnake

    Walk your Children to School and tell Montgomery County to kiss it where the sun doesn’t shine. They cannot arrest everybody. Make damn sure to call the Media and have them present when you do it. Then DEMAND this Principal be terminated.

  • Brian Tyler

    Typical Freethought misreporting, as the truth is that; Bear Branch Elementary School in Magnolia, insists that children must either take the bus or be picked up by car, unless their parents come on foot after the car line has finished. Nor can parents drive to the school, park their car, and walk inside to retrieve their child early.. Also the threats of prosecution came from “The principal is backed by the school board and the local police force, which was called to intervene when an angry parent threatened school staff last fall. Other parents have been issued warnings by the police.”. Just 5 minutes research and Freethought could have reported this accurately.

    • Robin Hinsdale

      I had a feeling it was something like this. We have similar problems with schools in our area. This article is poorly written with few facts.

    • NightRaven

      It didn’t make the story sound any better, or any different really, it fleshed it out but didn’t change the way it was presented, and it still just a baffling and unexplainable!
      How are the parents supposed to have parents meetings with the teachers when they can’t even enter the school grounds ? And it’s a public place, they can’t really deny anyone entrance there?

      • Andrew A Nyberg

        When parents have appointments, meetings, etc. They have an appointment and get a guest pass at the office.

        And yes, they can deny entrance. If someone just came in and took a child then you would be one of the same people to be upset that they didnt do more to protect the children. You just want to complain.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You seem to know a lot about coming in and taking other people’s children. How do you keep them quiet? Do you give them candy?

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            You seem to be a really good troll thats not so good at staying on task. Did you have alot of trouble with that as a child too? Or perhaps you are still a child, in which case, all of your other comments make total sense.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            See? You knew that you were talking at a level that only a child would believe.

          • Andrew A Nyberg

            The mental gymnastics are strong with this one…

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            And very weak with you.

        • NightRaven

          No. I am just shocked at how you Americans do things!
          Over here, it would headlines if someone denied ANYONE, parents or otherwise, access to PUBLIC school grounds. The word “public” is supposed to mean that anyone can be there. “Guest pass”! Makes it sound like a prison!

    • Diane

      So it is no longer possible to pick their child up from school for doctor appts, etc?

  • flautistmaniac

    I guess these teachers don’t want parents to walk in on them while they have their kids on an alter drugged up and being fed to the reptilian overlords. Come on, people, do not send your kids to be more science experiments for the nazis. You have to be stupid to trust adults with your children who say you cannot see what they are doing when you are gone.

  • DL

    WTF is the crack head thinking behind this. Really, what is the justification for this policy? Inquiring minds want to know.

  • wally63

    Welcome to the Great United Soviet Socialist Satanic Stasi States of Amerika, Komrades!

    • doucyet

      I doubt that it’s this moronic in Russia! (;>)

      • wally63

        Of course, in today’s Russia that’s correct. But, my comment is referring to the 20th century Russia when the Bolshevik Joos ran the show, the old, Marxist-Socialist USSR.

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  • Matt N Susan Souza

    I will go where ever , and whenever , my child is , especially if that child is entrusted to other adults .. and check up. Their safety is my utmost concern. Troll that school district , HARD. Join the PTA and put the pressure on…. hard. These are your children and your parental rights and the state over stepping those bounds BIG TIME ,File lawsuits about child alienation of parent by school . I wonder what the child thinks when it sees that the school has power over Mom and Dad ? I would also build up a support group and weed this crazy globalist out. I wonder what other radical things this principle ( agent of the fed ) is implementing the parents might not know about? I would make sure each parent knew the exact curriculum being taught. TROLL THAT PRINCIPLE. The power tripping Holly Ray . File a permit to picket that school. A parent should never , ever be prevented , unless by court order , to not go with or to their child at anytime. I would also do random and frequent ‘welfare’ checks of my child at that school. Remember , the squeaky wheel gets the grease. This is about much more that what it seems.
    What are they hiding at that school that they don’t want the parents to see? Obviously , something. And I would treat it like that. They are hiding something they don’t want the parents to know or see…..
    This is a precedent. Don’t allow it to continue . Rise up. These indoctrination centers they call public schools , have gotten too heavy handed and have for too long over stepped their bounds.The leftest , progressive agenda says , your ‘ children aren’t just yours , they belong to the community’
    The fact that local law enforcement arrests and threatens to arrest parents who are escorting their children to school is appalling and troublesome …………VOTE THEM OUT, the sheriff , the constable and the local judge …( they are infringing on parental rights )… in the next local election. This is ridiculous. File a law suit against the principle for keeping you from being with your child on state property.. by prohibiting parents from escorting their children to class. Who gave her the power to do this??

    • Phil Freeman

      Homeschool, problem solved.

      • Dean Winchester

        Home schooling fails the kids https://homeschoolersanonymous.org/archive/

        • Phil Freeman

          Mine were homeschoolled all in medicine now did just fine, but then I’m educated and most parents aren’t. A generational problem as well as a purposeful dumbing down of the population.

          • Dean Winchester

            Sure they are, educated within your own delusions.

          • Phil Freeman

            Nice ad homenim. Your public school indoctrination program is showing.

        • Phil Freeman

          Nonsense!

          • Dean Winchester

            You cannot refute first hand accounts, specially when they’re consistent from so many people spread over a vast area of the US, and possibly Canada and the world.

          • Phil Freeman

            I never claimed there weren’t shitty parents in the world.

    • Dean Winchester

      The parents need to petition the County Attorney’s office and charge her with overstepping her boundaries by creating legislation without being properly voted in as a legislator, nor bringing it to a vote.

  • Melvin Butturd

    The article does not explain why they have this policy ..

    • Andrew A Nyberg
      • TecumsehUnfaced

        But here’s Andy! To give you a lesson how brief can be even more misleading!

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        That’s the propaganda release from the cover up.

        This is the detailed story:

        http://www.redhotconservative.com/tag/holly-ray/

        • Andrew A Nyberg

          The redhotconservative is the only one that has the “real story”

          HAHAHAHAHAHA

          • avelworldcreator

            I’m loath to admit it, but they provide documentation for their claims. They may be reporting with a specific slant given the site, but they are definitely showing accountability. It might not be full accountability, but what I’m seeing is still quite substantial. Web sites are subject to modification without any obvious “paper trail”; so the claim that it was policy since the beginning of the year to allow both walkers and riders at the moment is cast into doubt unless the school is able to provide contradictory evidence to support their claim. In fact I find several fallacies in the counter-arguments made by the school staff including the assertion that they have broad parental support. That would require a formal survey of the community in question but they have not posted such anywhere that I’ve seen.

      • Guy

        Give it a break there Chumley ! Or, are you next going to try to convince us all that, lip’s on chicks is just a social experiment ?

        We know that you probably work for the school district that this article is written about and are cool with it, because people have got to eat ! But please, do you have to be so damn patronising and obvious about where your loyalties lie, while trying to convince us all ?

        Hey ! Don’t get me wrong, I’ve got tons of relatives and family that work for schools, so understand how you can be so butt hurt about it. But what comes next ? Not the one about space aliens abducted you and doing experiments on your body, I hope !?

        • Andrew A Nyberg

          I live in Minnesota tough guy. Just spreading the truth. Im sorry it offends you so.

          • Guy

            It dosen’t and I’am not ! Just pointing out the obvious is all.

  • L. A. McDonough

    Parents that send kids to gov. schools are morons. Home school or find a quality Christian school.

    • Dean Winchester

      Your jesus is a myth

  • Sam Oconnel

    Trespassing on Public property?

    Pull the kids out of that school. ALL of them, and run the principal out of town….

    Of course, nothing will be done about it. This is Scamerica.

  • East Clintwood

    Homeschool.

  • Shayla Raye Cody

    very poorly wrote….they are more than likely welcome to walk them to school..but are required to drop them off at the gate..think about it ….step back and Let the kid go be a big boy..they can’t stop or see the real wierdo’s it they can’t see the weirdo’s through all the over protection parents….come on ..open your eyes..they want you all up in arms by telling half a story…don’t fall for it.

  • anarchyst

    Abolish all public indoctrination centers…sending children to these “brainwashing institutes” is tantamount to child abuse…

    • Andrew A Nyberg

      Yea, send them to a brainwashing church so they can be molested and learn about Gods touch.

  • anarchyst

    Here is food for thought, especially for those who support “public education” and rally about the doctrine of “socialization” that they claim is lacking in “homeschooled” children.
    Let’s look at what “public education” has to offer:
    1. Cliques and rampant bullying, quite often the victim of bullying punished more harshly for fighting back. Many times, bullies are part of a “protected” class–racial minorities, jocks, etc. Strong official disapproval of students making friends outside their grade level. “Peer pressure” used to push conformity.
    2. Teachers that don’t teach reading writing and arithmetic. Pushing communist principles such as rabid environmentalism, blaming humanity for conditions beyond our control as well as pushing “communitarianism” (“it takes a village”)–actually communism. This also ties in with teacher-recommended feminizing and drugging (mostly boys) to make them “less fidgety” and more compliant–all for the “benefit” of the teacher.
    3. Non-existent moral guidance…the communist concept of “values clarification”, allowing each student to set his own moral standard with no discussion permitted as to guidelines. A student dare not mention God or the Bible in “public school”–not permitted…discussing Islam is OK…even field trips to mosques are encouraged.
    4. Sex education that normalizes homosexuality and other deviant practices, actually encouraging deviant behavior and downplaying heterosexuality and abstinence.
    5. Insane zero tolerance practices, punishing students for pop-tarts shaped like guns or a student having an “unauthorized aspirin” or plastic butter knife. Of course, abortions and birth control are available without parental notification.
    6. Lockdowns and backpack/locker searches by police utilizing “drug dogs”, getting the upcoming generation used to random unconstitutional searches. Quite often, students “roughed up” by “school resource officers”…just because they can…Lockdowns should be reserved for prisons–not schools…
    Since these “socialization” practices seem to be the norm in our “public education” systems, parents who send their children to these dysfunctional “indoctrination centers” are guilty of child abuse…
    Children who are homeschooled actually do much better in life as they are comfortable with people of all ages. True socialization takes place outside the classroom.

    • Andrew A Nyberg

      And the Bat-Shit crazy award goes to….

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Andrew A. Nyberg!

      • avelworldcreator

        Have to give @anarchyst:disqus credit on points 1 & 6 though. But you know what they say about stopped clocks too.

      • anarchyst

        you must be a publik skool teecher

        • avelworldcreator

          I’m hoping that spelling was deliberate otherwise you have some serious issues with your basic education.

    • Dean Winchester

      1. Sequestration from the rest of society, most home schooled students have less interaction with children their own age and are unable to relate.
      2. Parents who are so fucking stupid, they think that the earth is only 6,000 years old, and flat.
      3. Indoctrination of mythological deities, under threat of eternal damnation.
      4. Lack of sex education results in higher than average unwanted teenage pregnancies.
      5. Insane zero tolerance policies for anything that is opposite of personal beliefs.
      6. Numerous forms of abuse are common within home schooled households, children are kept away from others to keep from telling.

      There’s zero proof outside of periodicals published for home schools that back up your claim. Here’s a site, run by those who were home schooled and became disillusioned, for those who were home schooled and disillusioned. I should also add that my brother and sister in law home school their kids, and they are fucked up beyond all doubt https://homeschoolersanonymous.org/archive/

  • Andrew A Nyberg

    Just playing devils advocate for a moment: Perhaps this policy was put into place to prevent unwanted people from entering school grounds. All of these parents walking into the school to drop their kids off then they walk out with no kid in toe. Anyone could just walk right into the school and take a child without anyone even knowing. Then all of these same people will be up in arms against this principle because she didnt do enough to protect their children.

    Its a double edged sword.

    • Dean Winchester

      You’re a fucking idiot, Magnolia is a small town, not even 1,400 population, I’m quite certain that everyone knows who’s kid is who’s. Where did you get your brains from, Kmart?

      • Andrew A Nyberg

        Walmart actually, but thats besides the point…

      • Andrew A Nyberg

        “Just playing devils advocate for a moment”

        Meaning it was hypothetical. So where did you pick up your brains from?

        • Dean Winchester

          Before you try and play devil’s advocate, do a bit of research on the issues first, it helps in the long run. In reality, what the principal is doing is nothing more than a power play, and getting away with it. I would be very interested to know how a principal, a low level admin, has gotten so much power, who does she know? A low ranker like her cannot impose nor legislate municipal policy that results in arrests and threats. The best way for these parents to get any real results are to petition the County Attorney’s office and bring up charges of overstepping boundaries.

          • avelworldcreator

            He developed a generalized hypothetical scenario. This means it was taking place in “Any Town, USA” and not just a specific community and no research about any particular town or city was needed. The only complaint I could make against his argument was spelling and punctuation errors i.e. “toe” instead of “tow”, etc. Also “playing devil’s advocate” means to speak for the opposing side; to identify if the other party has any merit in their position. The correct response is to find holes in that argument and not come back with ad hominems. He is using standard devices used in debate, analysis, and critical review; in short he’s focused on thinking critically about the matter and not simply wallowing in knee-jerk emotional response.

          • Dean Winchester

            Even in the larger towns and cities, school workers, specially teachers, know which kid(s) belong to which parent(s), as well as know who is, and who isn’t, allowed near them, this principal is doing nothing more than a power play, most likely has a personal vendetta against certain parents in the hopes of getting those particular ones arrested.

  • Siobhan Justin

    The goal is to usurp parent’s rights to parent their children.

  • Andrew A Nyberg

    After a little more research, this article is really poorly written and made to attack public school policies. The actual policy is set that walkers are acceptable but those children are not released until all of the drop offs and pickups are gone.

    Just more bullshit propaganda.

    • FRANK

      Andrew,or whatever your real name is you have posted 41 comments on this topic which you claim is propaganda. Any othe sources that agrees with the facts and has substantial documentation in your humble opinion is also false. The only opinion or information we are to believe is your self inflated ego. You have insulted, agreed and attempted to change the subject probably because you are a paid troll in mY humble opinion. No one take the time to post 41 insultS against God and anyone who believes in Him or anyone who reads a website that you disagree with.
      The question is why do you bother, why so you purposefully attack everyone including God? It appears you are a very unhappy person that wants everyone else to be as miserable as you are. Of course this is just my opinion. Why don’t you spend as much effort on helping people who work 60+ hours a week or two jobs trying to raise their kids and keep food on the table. People that don’t know how that can legally fight back without getting arrested for an unlawful order. The people need to hold the principle, superintendent, school board and Montgomery County Constable office accountable for their actions. Find some joy in life by helping others instead of sowing discord. You will reap what you sow.

    • IceTrey

      Which takes an HOUR.

  • Jamie Sorensen

    The ultimate authority in a true democracy lies with the people…not the school bureaucracy and police state. If enough people STOPPED “going along to get along”, and stood together, they could force the principal out of her job! They could halt police brutality. The problem is typical! Only 15-20% of people are willing to STAND UP!!!

  • martymarsh

    You didn’t see this coming with the seatbelt law?

  • Jamie Barth Ball

    What happens when your child is sick? Do they have to walk out to meet you? What about Back to School Night? Is it just a ploy to arrest everyone? Ridiculous! The principal needs to be removed immediately!

  • Michelle Dacey

    Not only is this not a new story but it is entirely inaccurate. Parents are still allowed to walk their children to and from the school, they just must wait until the car riders and buses are done with pick ups for safety reasons.

    • IceTrey

      Has anyone ever been hit by a car there? Do you think the parents are incapable of keeping their kids safe? It takes an HOUR for the cars to go through.

  • Watching Your World

    All it takes is to threaten one parent who has a suspended license and the ensuing law suit will make this all go away.

  • Kat L

    what country are we in?

  • Alvin Akbar

    Holly Ray must not be gettin’ any

  • Grace

    It is easier to kidnap your child if you are not there.

  • olaler

    If public schools had to compete with vouchers for private schools, this probably wouldn’t happen- and children would be given a quality education. Texas still likes “Boss Hoggs”. I’d probably home scholl my children, there.

    • Guy

      Wonders of Wonders !!!!! A person who has enough common sense to come in out of the rain !
      Give this guy a cookie along with a gold star, and make him governor of the state he lives in ! He’s got my vote !

  • Brett Rapley

    Find out what your school district policies are, this information should be freely available, and fight that stupid bitch. No school has the right over YOUR children, none whatsoever. As far as I would understand it, that silly bitch may be the principal, but as a state school, there will be policies in place that govern what she is able to do or impliment. It’s a parents right to walk their children into school. Tall that daft cow to answer this. What is she going to do if something happens to any of the kids in her care, as in a child being molested, raped or kidnapped? Who’s fault will it be then, it certainly won’t be the parents fault. Take that bitch to court and sue the shit out of her.

  • Silverado

    This is outrageous! And kind of makes one wonder who’s really in charge there. The parents and taxpayers or the principal?? I’d also pull my children out of that school should the circumstances be the same here which thank God they’re not. Maybe it’s time for the lawyers to be retained and used here…

  • Has there been any update on this? The Every Student Succeeds Act, passed early 2016, gives federal protection to parents and kids who desire to allow their children to walk to and from school:

    http://usa.streetsblog.org/2016/01/05/will-the-new-free-range-kids-law-protect-parents-who-let-kids-walk/

  • Donna Carter

    Am I missing something? What happened for this principal to implement this rule? If I am not allowed to be on school property where my child is then I wouldn’t want my child attending. I would be highly suspicious of what the staff is doing to the children and what they are teaching.

  • peoplearenodamngood

    Bill O’Reilly would love this one

  • Murray Smith

    The state has legal ownership of children from birth, has done for centuries. At least prisons provide a carpark and visitors permits. This seems more in the nature of a concentration camp. Child labour will be called ‘Applied Sciences’ next. Don’t laugh.

  • peppersdrei

    It’s one thing to walk your kids to school and I think they should. It’s another thing to walk into the school with them and escort them to class.

    Unclear what is happening. However one parent said what seemed to be walking them to the classroom.