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WTF is Wrong with you America? Public Schools Holding Disturbing Drills.

Public Schools Are Preparing America’s Children For Life In A Police State

Michael Snyder
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Our children are the future of America, and our public schools are systematically training them to become accustomed to living in a “Big Brother” police state.  All across the United States today, public schools have essentially become “prison grids” that are run by control freaks that are absolutely obsessed with micromanaging the lives of their students down to the smallest detail.

As you will read about below, students all over the country are now being monitored by RFID microchips, their lunches are being inspected on a daily basis by school administrators, and the social media accounts of students are being constantly monitored even when they are at home.  Of course these sorts of things do not happen everywhere just yet, but on the path that we are on it is just a matter of time.  At this point, many of our public schools very closely resemble “totalitarian dictatorships”, and so if the United States ever slips into totalitarianism the students of today will actually feel very comfortable under that political system.

I went to public schools all my life, so I have experience in this area.  Sadly, things have gone downhill quite a bit since those days.  For example, one thing that was unheard of back when I was in high school was “active shooter drills”.  They are being held in school districts all over the nation today, and they often involve the firing of blanks and the use of fake blood.  The following is from a recent NBC News about these drills…

In a cramped, carpeted amphitheater in the basement of Troy Buchanan High School, 69 students are waiting to die.

“You’ll know when it pops off,” says Robert Bowen, the school’s campus police officer. “If you get engaged with one of the shooters, you’ll know it.”

“When you get shot, you need to close your fingers and keep ‘em in,” adds Tammy Kozinski, the drama teacher. “When the bad guy and the police come through, they’ll step all over you, and who will be saying they’re sorry?”

“Nobody!” the students cry in unison.

This isn’t a bizarre, premeditated mass murder or some twisted sacrifice led by a student cult. These are the 20 minutes preceding an active shooter drill, the 13th oneMissouri’s Lincoln County school district has staged in the past year.

You can read the rest of that article right here, and a YouTube video about these drills is posted below…

Fortunately, the students participating in the active shooter drills in Missouri know in advance what is happening.

In other instances around the country, that is not the case.  In fact, sometimes teachers are not even told what is going to happen.  Just check out the following example from New Jersey

About 50 teachers at a New Jersey school experienced a terrifying moment when a shooting rampage turned out to be a drill, but the teachers didn’t know it.

It happened Aug. 28 at the Phillipsburg New Jersey Early Learning Center.

A man burst into the library and started shooting. But the gun didn’t have any bullets, just blanks.

Teachers took cover under child-sized tables, crying and trembling.

“People are crying. The girl next to me is trembling and shaking. You heard people crying. You heard other people praying. It was pretty dramatic,” one teacher said.

Could you imagine your own children being put through something so traumatic?

And of course “active shooter drills” are far from the only way that our public schools are being transformed into prison camps.  Just consider the following list…

-Public schools in some parts of the country are beginning to use RFID microchips to track school attendance. (Link)

-Some public schools are now systematically monitoring the social media accounts of their students. (Link)

-Listening devices are being installed in classrooms all over the nation. (Link)

-Bureaucratic control freaks are checking student lunches at many schools to ensure that they are “balanced”. (Link)

-Students are being suspended from school for simply making gun gestures with their hands. (Link)

-Some public schools do not even allow parents to walk their own children to class. (Link)

This next set of examples comes from one of my previous articles

A few years ago, a class of 3rd grade students at one Kentucky elementary school were searched by a group of teachers after 5 dollars went missing.  During the search the students were actually required to remove their shoes and their socks.

At one public school in the Chicago area, children have been banned from bringing their lunches from home.  Yes, you read that correctly.  Students at that particular school are absolutely prohibited from bringing lunches from home.  Instead, it is mandatory that they eat the food that the school cafeteria serves.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture is spending huge amounts of money to install surveillance cameras in the cafeterias of public schools so that government control freaks can closely monitor what our children are eating.

A teenager in suburban Dallas was forced to take on a part-time job after being ticketed for using bad language in one high school classroom.  The original ticket was for $340, but additional fees have raised the total bill to $637.

It is not just high school kids that are being ticketed by police.  In Texas the crackdown extends all the way down to elementary school students.  In fact, it has been reported that Texas police gave “1,000 tickets” to elementary school kids over a recent six year period.

A 17 year-old honor student in North Carolina named Ashley Smithwick accidentally took her father’s lunch with her to school.  It contained a small paring knife which he would use to slice up apples.  So what happened to this standout student when the school discovered this?  The school suspended her for the rest of the year and the police charged her with a misdemeanor.

A 6 year old girl in Florida was handcuffed and sent to a mental facilityafter throwing temper tantrums at her elementary school.

In early 2010, a 12 year old girl in New York was arrested by police and marched out of her school in handcuffs just because she doodled on her desk. “I love my friends Abby and Faith” was what she reportedly wrote on her desk.

There are actually some public schools in the United States that are so paranoid that they have actually installed cameras in student bathrooms.

-Down in Florida, students have actually been arrested by police for bringing a plastic butter knife to school, for throwing an eraser, and for drawing a picture of a gun.

-The Florida State Department of Juvenile Justice has announced that it will begin using analysis software to predict crime by young delinquents and will place “potential offenders” in specific prevention and education programs.

-A group of high school students made national headlines a while back when they revealed that they were ordered by a security guard to stop singing the national anthem during a visit to the Lincoln Memorial.

In some U.S. schools, armed cops accompanied by police dogs actually conduct surprise raids with their guns drawn.  In this video, you can actually see police officers aiming their guns at school children as the students are lined up facing the wall.

Back in 2009, one 8 year old boy in Massachusetts was sent home from schooland was forced to undergo a psychological evaluation because he drew a picture of Jesus on the cross.

Are you starting to get the picture?

Our public schools are systematically training our children for life in a police state, and hardly anyone is complaining about it.

We are heading down a very dangerous road, and at the end of that road we would end up like other totalitarian regimes such as North Korea.

If you think that you would like to live in a truly totalitarian regime, just consider what a new UN report that was just released says is going on in North Korea right now…

The commission documents crimes against humanity, including “extermination, murder, enslavement, torture, imprisonment, rape, forced abortions and other sexual violence, persecution on political, religious, racial and gender grounds, the forcible transfer of populations, the enforced disappearance of persons and the inhumane act of knowingly causing prolonged starvation.”

So why don’t the people of North Korea rebel?

Well, one prison camp survivor that escaped said that “we became so used to it that we didn’t feel anything”

One witness, a survivor of a North Korean prison camp, told the commission of seeing a guard beat a nearly starving woman who had recently given birth, then force the woman to drown her baby.

Others told of being imprisoned for watching soap operas, trying to find food for their families, traveling without permission or having family members considered suspect by the government.

“Because we saw so many people die, we became so used to it,” one prison camp survivor told the commission. “I’m sorry to say that we became so used to it that we didn’t feel anything.”

Perhaps you think that such a thing could never happen in America, but the truth is that we are also becoming very accustomed to the emerging Big Brother control grid which is being constructed all around us.

And the youth of today are sadly ignorant of what this nation is supposed to look like.  In fact, in the video posted below activist Mark Dice discovers that many students at one college in California cannot even name any of the Bill of Rights when they are asked to do so…

So is there any hope for the next generation of Americans?

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    • It’s all “relative”, Al.

    • Your quote is in correct but good work twisting his words to align with your bullshit

    • Mike Patton Says the man who can’t spell incorrect. Who works to literally destroy the planet, and everything on it, for a paycheck. What a piece of maggot shit you are.

    • It’s all “relative”, Al.

    • Your quote is in correct but good work twisting his words to align with your bullshit

    • Mike Patton Says the man who can’t spell incorrect. Who works to literally destroy the planet, and everything on it, for a paycheck. What a piece of maggot shit you are.

  • Cannot quantify the yawwwn let alone the ‘human’ hand’…. FUCK nought point point pointy point… Arthur Conan Doyle says it all about statzzzz yuh twatzzzz

  • Cannot quantify the yawwwn let alone the ‘human’ hand’…. FUCK nought point point pointy point… Arthur Conan Doyle says it all about statzzzz yuh twatzzzz

  • “Can (emphasis CAN) know…” There’s always an exception. Statistically, it’s BS. So are students who are learning English, another language, history, civics, biology, chemistry, the Scientific method, literature, algebra, statistics, geometry, and hundreds of other things that will make them curious and want to know more, just being obedient?

    • Yes, because you were told to be obedient, and to study these things, that you would of never stumbled across, or been interested in on your own. You were told they were interesting, and you comply perfectly. You make the point perfectly.

    • John Shadwick “Stumbled across?” So a child’s education must be left up to chance? On the hope that some day they will see a simple math problem and magically figure it out? Or maybe one day the stumbling kid will stumble on a science text, but they won’t be able to read it or have someone help them understand the importance of the scientific method. Or maybe that they’ll simply divine that it should be “would’ve” and not “would of?” You make my point perfectly. I feel sorry for your kids if YOU are homeschooling.

    • John Shadwick I’m sorry, but I just can’t get over the ignorance of that “stumbled across” comment. If we all that view we’d be re-inventing the wheel, the light bulb, and millions of other things every other generation, because that stuff, that knowledge, simply wouldn’t be passed down. We’d have to “stumble across” those advances time and time again. But let’s be realistic here. Without the cumulative knowledge, we’d never get to a light bulb. We’d still be living in caves. We stand on the shoulder’s of thousands of generations that preceded us. I’m so glad they had the foresight to document their discoveries and that we put together modern education to pass that knowledge down.

    • The only people arguing don’t like learning new things. Good teachers help students whose parents have not instilled a love of learning.

    • Y’all seem to be missing the point that we are purposely dumbing down the education of America. Our teachers and being forced to teach to tests. They no longer have the ” luxury” of teaching children to think. It is my belief that teaching children to think it’s just about the most important thing we can teach them.

    • Dennis McFly Either is okay Dennis, ya know technically.

    • Bill Bartlett As a Native American, I hate you. You can take all of the crap you mentioned above, and take all of your genocidal, raping, incestuous, death dealing people back with you. Life was more labor, but better before all of these so called luxuries, that have left Americans, sick, lazy, obese, and created a government, and military that kills, and destroys more people, land, and environment than anything else on the planet. Take those cars, that take gas. What has education done to further the people, since the cure of polio? You have been brainwashed since birth to believe what destroys, is creative. You’ve been brainwashed to create havoc, and sell out the entire human race. Our educational system doesn’t even teach the most basics of survival any longer, how to fix a car, your home, balance a check book, what is the economy, accurate history, etc, etc, etc. Nothing to enlighten the world, as you say science does, which make you not only stupid, but more pathetic than maggot feces. It’s funny how most things in our history weren’t discovered by people with education. They were discovered by people who paid attention, and applied common sense application, based on every day occurrences in their life. Most things were stumbled across in our history Bill. But you’re a good little monkey. A victim of technology, and stupidity. Bill, you’re just so weak, and pathetic.

    • John Shadwick Hello brother, I too am part native American. Cherokee to be specific. Usually I don’t reply to hate filled rants,but in this case I will. Survival today, as throughout human history, is about adaptability too. Have a nice day 🙂

    • Wolf E Wolf if this is about teaching to a test, I couldn’t agree more. I didn’t pick up on that.

  • “Can (emphasis CAN) know…” There’s always an exception. Statistically, it’s BS. So are students who are learning English, another language, history, civics, biology, chemistry, the Scientific method, literature, algebra, statistics, geometry, and hundreds of other things that will make them curious and want to know more, just being obedient?

    • Yes, because you were told to be obedient, and to study these things, that you would of never stumbled across, or been interested in on your own. You were told they were interesting, and you comply perfectly. You make the point perfectly.

    • John Shadwick “Stumbled across?” So a child’s education must be left up to chance? On the hope that some day they will see a simple math problem and magically figure it out? Or maybe one day the stumbling kid will stumble on a science text, but they won’t be able to read it or have someone help them understand the importance of the scientific method. Or maybe that they’ll simply divine that it should be “would’ve” and not “would of?” You make my point perfectly. I feel sorry for your kids if YOU are homeschooling.

    • John Shadwick I’m sorry, but I just can’t get over the ignorance of that “stumbled across” comment. If we all that view we’d be re-inventing the wheel, the light bulb, and millions of other things every other generation, because that stuff, that knowledge, simply wouldn’t be passed down. We’d have to “stumble across” those advances time and time again. But let’s be realistic here. Without the cumulative knowledge, we’d never get to a light bulb. We’d still be living in caves. We stand on the shoulder’s of thousands of generations that preceded us. I’m so glad they had the foresight to document their discoveries and that we put together modern education to pass that knowledge down.

    • The only people arguing don’t like learning new things. Good teachers help students whose parents have not instilled a love of learning.

    • Y’all seem to be missing the point that we are purposely dumbing down the education of America. Our teachers and being forced to teach to tests. They no longer have the ” luxury” of teaching children to think. It is my belief that teaching children to think it’s just about the most important thing we can teach them.

    • Dennis McFly Either is okay Dennis, ya know technically.

    • Bill Bartlett As a Native American, I hate you. You can take all of the crap you mentioned above, and take all of your genocidal, raping, incestuous, death dealing people back with you. Life was more labor, but better before all of these so called luxuries, that have left Americans, sick, lazy, obese, and created a government, and military that kills, and destroys more people, land, and environment than anything else on the planet. Take those cars, that take gas. What has education done to further the people, since the cure of polio? You have been brainwashed since birth to believe what destroys, is creative. You’ve been brainwashed to create havoc, and sell out the entire human race. Our educational system doesn’t even teach the most basics of survival any longer, how to fix a car, your home, balance a check book, what is the economy, accurate history, etc, etc, etc. Nothing to enlighten the world, as you say science does, which make you not only stupid, but more pathetic than maggot feces. It’s funny how most things in our history weren’t discovered by people with education. They were discovered by people who paid attention, and applied common sense application, based on every day occurrences in their life. Most things were stumbled across in our history Bill. But you’re a good little monkey. A victim of technology, and stupidity. Bill, you’re just so weak, and pathetic.

    • John Shadwick Hello brother, I too am part native American. Cherokee to be specific. Usually I don’t reply to hate filled rants,but in this case I will. Survival today, as throughout human history, is about adaptability too. Have a nice day 🙂

    • Wolf E Wolf if this is about teaching to a test, I couldn’t agree more. I didn’t pick up on that.

  • that’s why I’m not a graduate.

  • that’s why I’m not a graduate.

  • Ah I agree but I’m not gonna use this as an excuse for my gpa being bad

  • Ah I agree but I’m not gonna use this as an excuse for my gpa being bad

  • Sheeple 2 the slaughterhouse& you don’t even get ya shitty flag raised for you.

  • Sheeple 2 the slaughterhouse& you don’t even get ya shitty flag raised for you.

  • Sorry, my 3.96 was definitely earned… AND NOT from being obedient!

    • Top kek

    • It was earned by being obedient

    • You are the very definition of obedient.

    • How would you guts know? Sit in class with him or simply talking out of your asses?

    • LOL! my professors hated me, I challenged everything they said.

    • I learned about expectations for obedience, but I learned to think for myself! The more you learn, the more you understand how little you actually know. Never stop learning, never stop questioning. Have a great day!

    • Lol look the uneducated learned to spell ‘obedient’ what scholars.

  • Sorry, my 3.96 was definitely earned… AND NOT from being obedient!

    • Top kek

    • It was earned by being obedient

    • You are the very definition of obedient.

    • How would you guts know? Sit in class with him or simply talking out of your asses?

    • LOL! my professors hated me, I challenged everything they said.

    • I learned about expectations for obedience, but I learned to think for myself! The more you learn, the more you understand how little you actually know. Never stop learning, never stop questioning. Have a great day!

    • Lol look the uneducated learned to spell ‘obedient’ what scholars.

  • This right here is reason #227 of why I skipped my last two years of high school..I am a full time college student now, btw. Couldn’t handle a system of indoctrination caring more about obedience than it did intelligence.

  • This right here is reason #227 of why I skipped my last two years of high school..I am a full time college student now, btw. Couldn’t handle a system of indoctrination caring more about obedience than it did intelligence.

  • damn right!!!

  • damn right!!!

  • Correct! One needs to be intelligent enough to be obedient! That’s how the smart ones prevail.

    • You don’t prevail, you sell out, and do things that harm the greater good for a check, and with out remorse. More of an obedient sociopath.

    • Now you’re learning! You were doing very well up until you got hysterical. Stick with it, and you too can prevail.

  • Correct! One needs to be intelligent enough to be obedient! That’s how the smart ones prevail.

    • You don’t prevail, you sell out, and do things that harm the greater good for a check, and with out remorse. More of an obedient sociopath.

    • Now you’re learning! You were doing very well up until you got hysterical. Stick with it, and you too can prevail.

  • Another really stupid meme

  • Another really stupid meme

  • I’ve been saying this my whole life. Thank you for posting this.

  • I’ve been saying this my whole life. Thank you for posting this.

  • There can no excuse for laziness. A 2.0 student may have more common sense than a 4.0 student but that doesn’t mean that a 2.0 student is anymore intelligent. Not too many 2.0 students go on to become Doctors, Lawyers, Judges, Scientists, Scholars, Teachers, etc.

    • Yes but they could be smarter in other ways

    • That is pretty much a given but I’ve found that 2.0 students usually, there are exceptions, are not motivated to excel in life. You will not find too many Pro Athletes who carried a 2.0 during their schooling.

    • some of the richest people in the world never finished highschool

    • So what? As stated before, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE. But it isn’t universal.

    • Ben Barton So what have athletes done for society? Nothing. I’m ashamed of lawyers, we all know why, Judges, corrupt, and destroying our way of life. Scientist, corrupt money hoarders, that only spread technology for death, war, destruction, and disease to the highest bidder. Scholars? We do not have any great scholars, we don’t even teach much needed subject matter, let alone any historical truth. Teachers have been rendered useless, and teach a common core curriculum, the official dumbing down of our children, and future. So none of this has helped us in a very, very long time. You give some very poor examples of something positive. Just sheep doing what they’re told. And the ones who do things for the wolves very well, that lead their own to the slaughter, are highly rewarded. Common sense buddy. You drank the koolaid, now please die.

    • Yea they achieve better job titles because those titles are apart of the same system that cranks out obedient workers. The more obedient and able to follow orders and directions you are the better you will do in school. The better you do in school the more you’ll want to continue doing better in school. It’s a vicious circle meant to crank out people who are smart enough to operate the machinery but dumb enough to not ask any questions. They will do and believe anything the government tells them. This is nazi America, just wait……

    • the point is the grade average tells very limited character but isnt a way to judge intellect

    • John Shadwick That is your opinion. While some of what you say is true it isn’t as wide spread as you would have us think. As for Athletes they contribute a great deal to Society. Most of the Wealthiest Players have Charities that they run in their perspective cities giving millions to the poor, sick and needy. They inspire young people to work hard to get ahead in Society. You will not find any of them sitting in their parents basement smoking weed and playing video games. Sports pumps in Billions of dollars into local economies. Those businessmen and women who are in the upper echelons of Broadcasting and Sports Venues are, for the most part, College Graduates. Yes there are a few Billionaires and Millionaires who never graduated high school. But it the exception, not the norm.

    • James Cressler Agreed.

    • They don’t because companies and businesses won’t hire them solely due to their grade point average in college and high school. If you don’t have a perfect record they see you aren’t obedient enough. That’s the ONLY reason 2.0 level students don’t become doctors and lawyers. The ones that do had connections or rich parents a.k.a “connections”.

    • James Cressler Dead on!!!!! 👌👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • Ben Barton, I must call you on your misunderstanding of the sports world. We pay for the teams, coliseums, everything. Teams/franchises pay for nothing. Then they gentrify neighborhoods, creating massive economical disparity. So those middle class, who would’ve been watching the game at a bar, or restaraunt are no longer around. You, and I pay for this not the team. A first grader could figure out that if somebody else pays for every thing you do, and buy, you will be a millionaire, or billionaire. So let’s get this straight, the sports team franchises, evict the poor to have there place to play, don’t pay for it, don’t help the poor one iota. Not too mention the crime it creates. Let me see, you destroyed my home, and left me homeless. But hey I can sell you rich people drugs, and steal your things now, because that is the only opportunity I have now. None of these leagues pay taxes. And it’s a proven fact that game days incite the most domestic abuse, murder, and suicide on game days. After all they are just modern versions of blood sport. Foot ball fans, just go be gay, we are all okay with these days. I mean football does not get more homo-erotic. Men in tights, and pads, manhandling all of their parts, throwing balls from their balls, and a big giant orgy style dog pile on top of one another, and then, they dance around like they are at a gay nightclub. We don’t need a tax write off, that these athletes call charity, after all of that damage is done. Most of these athletes have a miserable life after pro sports. But wait, you are the poster child of blind obedience.

    • Now Johnny boy there is no need for personal attacks. You don’t know me at all, where I’ve been, what I’ve done or who I am. Yet you pretend to know all about me based on a few posts. I didn’t realize that you were so clairvoyant.

    • Your so basic, and predictable, readable, even through social media. I see hundreds, maybe thousands of you a day. You’re all the same Ben Barton. I’m not saying you can’t think for yourself. You just choose not to, and you are rewarded for it. Be happy man. You may be brilliant, I don’t know. Due to not knowing you, it can’t be personal. I’m actually a nice guy, and I’m glad for all of the differences in people. I sit through many sporting events, because my friends enjoy it. It’s not all about me Ben. We can be as different as day, and night, and I can still respect you, and love the human you are. I admire people who held a good GPA, and have a degree that earns them a good check. It’s just highly disappointing to me that we all actually judge one another so harshly. Society in general at this moment in our history is quite deplorable. In my mind we should know better, be more evolved, compassionate, etc, etc, etc. Our educational system has failed many of us. That’s what it boils down to. You have a good day. Never take facebook personally. For some reason it brings out the worst in people.

    • I totally agree with you concerning our education system. I am now 57. When I attended school we were constantly challenged to search for the truth, to apply ourselves and get to the root of issues. Too many point out the symptoms of the problem but avoid the real issues. But one of the things that I do not do is to use a broad brush to paint others. Each person should stand on their own merits. I vote Independent but I tend to vote with Conservatives. With regards to our current education system I know that we spend more money per student than any other Country in the World yet our tests scores are abysmal. So where is all of that money going to? It certainly isn’t finding its way into the class room. Four years ago the Teacher’s Union in Chicago went on strike demanding higher wages. The City of Chicago didn’t have any money to hand out a raise. When a reporter asked the Union Boss, “Shouldn’t that money go for the education of our young?” the Union Boss replied, “I’ll start thinking about students when they are given the right to Vote in our Union.” The Union was eventually given the raise making the Teachers in the City of Chicago the Highest paid teachers in the Nation! Then word came down that in order to come up with the money to pay for the raise, 50 Chicago Schools would have to be shut down and most of the teachers and staff laid off. The Union vowed to fight the school closures but in the end the fight didn’t amount to very much. Most of the Schools that were shut down were Inner City Schools. Twelve years ago we passed a Levy where I live that approved the building of three new Schools. One of which my two youngest attended. We were excited! The School was completed in 18 months. After the new school reopened Parents were given a tour of the new facility. Everything was State of the Art. Two weeks later was our first Parent/Teacher Conference. We were all astounded when the teacher gave us a list of Classroom supplies that she needed. We plied the School District with questions regarding the need for supplies that the School should be providing and we were told that there wasn’t any funds set aside by the State Legislature for those funds in spite of a Voter approved Bill Statewide to increase the amount of funding for WA State Schools. Upon further investigation we discovered that the Vast majority of the new Funding was going into Teachers’ Salaries. Then it was revealed through a hidden video that the Teacher’s Union greatly increased Teacher’s Union dues. Our School system in America are not run by local School Districts. They are run by the Teachers’ Unions. I’ve had many conversations with retired teachers who complained bitterly because of the restraints placed upon them by the Union. The Nation’s Teachers Unions give millions to Democratic coffers who in return funnel millions of dollars back to their supporters. Meanwhile our Students suffer. Long math is replaced with “why does 2+2=4?” I agree, many individuals prefer to let others do their thinking for them. They are content to listen to “SPIN” rather than putting in the effort to learn the truth. That is the way that Politicians want it. I, for one, desire the truth based on facts rather than ideology. Sure dropping the two bombs on Japan was a horrible thing. But it was a necessary evil. I try to avoid being led by emotions instead of facts. I hope that you have a good day and it has been fun talking with you.

  • There can no excuse for laziness. A 2.0 student may have more common sense than a 4.0 student but that doesn’t mean that a 2.0 student is anymore intelligent. Not too many 2.0 students go on to become Doctors, Lawyers, Judges, Scientists, Scholars, Teachers, etc.

    • Yes but they could be smarter in other ways

    • That is pretty much a given but I’ve found that 2.0 students usually, there are exceptions, are not motivated to excel in life. You will not find too many Pro Athletes who carried a 2.0 during their schooling.

    • some of the richest people in the world never finished highschool

    • So what? As stated before, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE. But it isn’t universal.

    • Ben Barton So what have athletes done for society? Nothing. I’m ashamed of lawyers, we all know why, Judges, corrupt, and destroying our way of life. Scientist, corrupt money hoarders, that only spread technology for death, war, destruction, and disease to the highest bidder. Scholars? We do not have any great scholars, we don’t even teach much needed subject matter, let alone any historical truth. Teachers have been rendered useless, and teach a common core curriculum, the official dumbing down of our children, and future. So none of this has helped us in a very, very long time. You give some very poor examples of something positive. Just sheep doing what they’re told. And the ones who do things for the wolves very well, that lead their own to the slaughter, are highly rewarded. Common sense buddy. You drank the koolaid, now please die.

    • Yea they achieve better job titles because those titles are apart of the same system that cranks out obedient workers. The more obedient and able to follow orders and directions you are the better you will do in school. The better you do in school the more you’ll want to continue doing better in school. It’s a vicious circle meant to crank out people who are smart enough to operate the machinery but dumb enough to not ask any questions. They will do and believe anything the government tells them. This is nazi America, just wait……

    • the point is the grade average tells very limited character but isnt a way to judge intellect

    • John Shadwick That is your opinion. While some of what you say is true it isn’t as wide spread as you would have us think. As for Athletes they contribute a great deal to Society. Most of the Wealthiest Players have Charities that they run in their perspective cities giving millions to the poor, sick and needy. They inspire young people to work hard to get ahead in Society. You will not find any of them sitting in their parents basement smoking weed and playing video games. Sports pumps in Billions of dollars into local economies. Those businessmen and women who are in the upper echelons of Broadcasting and Sports Venues are, for the most part, College Graduates. Yes there are a few Billionaires and Millionaires who never graduated high school. But it the exception, not the norm.

    • James Cressler Agreed.

    • They don’t because companies and businesses won’t hire them solely due to their grade point average in college and high school. If you don’t have a perfect record they see you aren’t obedient enough. That’s the ONLY reason 2.0 level students don’t become doctors and lawyers. The ones that do had connections or rich parents a.k.a “connections”.

    • James Cressler Dead on!!!!! 👌👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • Ben Barton, I must call you on your misunderstanding of the sports world. We pay for the teams, coliseums, everything. Teams/franchises pay for nothing. Then they gentrify neighborhoods, creating massive economical disparity. So those middle class, who would’ve been watching the game at a bar, or restaraunt are no longer around. You, and I pay for this not the team. A first grader could figure out that if somebody else pays for every thing you do, and buy, you will be a millionaire, or billionaire. So let’s get this straight, the sports team franchises, evict the poor to have there place to play, don’t pay for it, don’t help the poor one iota. Not too mention the crime it creates. Let me see, you destroyed my home, and left me homeless. But hey I can sell you rich people drugs, and steal your things now, because that is the only opportunity I have now. None of these leagues pay taxes. And it’s a proven fact that game days incite the most domestic abuse, murder, and suicide on game days. After all they are just modern versions of blood sport. Foot ball fans, just go be gay, we are all okay with these days. I mean football does not get more homo-erotic. Men in tights, and pads, manhandling all of their parts, throwing balls from their balls, and a big giant orgy style dog pile on top of one another, and then, they dance around like they are at a gay nightclub. We don’t need a tax write off, that these athletes call charity, after all of that damage is done. Most of these athletes have a miserable life after pro sports. But wait, you are the poster child of blind obedience.

    • Now Johnny boy there is no need for personal attacks. You don’t know me at all, where I’ve been, what I’ve done or who I am. Yet you pretend to know all about me based on a few posts. I didn’t realize that you were so clairvoyant.

    • Your so basic, and predictable, readable, even through social media. I see hundreds, maybe thousands of you a day. You’re all the same Ben Barton. I’m not saying you can’t think for yourself. You just choose not to, and you are rewarded for it. Be happy man. You may be brilliant, I don’t know. Due to not knowing you, it can’t be personal. I’m actually a nice guy, and I’m glad for all of the differences in people. I sit through many sporting events, because my friends enjoy it. It’s not all about me Ben. We can be as different as day, and night, and I can still respect you, and love the human you are. I admire people who held a good GPA, and have a degree that earns them a good check. It’s just highly disappointing to me that we all actually judge one another so harshly. Society in general at this moment in our history is quite deplorable. In my mind we should know better, be more evolved, compassionate, etc, etc, etc. Our educational system has failed many of us. That’s what it boils down to. You have a good day. Never take facebook personally. For some reason it brings out the worst in people.

    • I totally agree with you concerning our education system. I am now 57. When I attended school we were constantly challenged to search for the truth, to apply ourselves and get to the root of issues. Too many point out the symptoms of the problem but avoid the real issues. But one of the things that I do not do is to use a broad brush to paint others. Each person should stand on their own merits. I vote Independent but I tend to vote with Conservatives. With regards to our current education system I know that we spend more money per student than any other Country in the World yet our tests scores are abysmal. So where is all of that money going to? It certainly isn’t finding its way into the class room. Four years ago the Teacher’s Union in Chicago went on strike demanding higher wages. The City of Chicago didn’t have any money to hand out a raise. When a reporter asked the Union Boss, “Shouldn’t that money go for the education of our young?” the Union Boss replied, “I’ll start thinking about students when they are given the right to Vote in our Union.” The Union was eventually given the raise making the Teachers in the City of Chicago the Highest paid teachers in the Nation! Then word came down that in order to come up with the money to pay for the raise, 50 Chicago Schools would have to be shut down and most of the teachers and staff laid off. The Union vowed to fight the school closures but in the end the fight didn’t amount to very much. Most of the Schools that were shut down were Inner City Schools. Twelve years ago we passed a Levy where I live that approved the building of three new Schools. One of which my two youngest attended. We were excited! The School was completed in 18 months. After the new school reopened Parents were given a tour of the new facility. Everything was State of the Art. Two weeks later was our first Parent/Teacher Conference. We were all astounded when the teacher gave us a list of Classroom supplies that she needed. We plied the School District with questions regarding the need for supplies that the School should be providing and we were told that there wasn’t any funds set aside by the State Legislature for those funds in spite of a Voter approved Bill Statewide to increase the amount of funding for WA State Schools. Upon further investigation we discovered that the Vast majority of the new Funding was going into Teachers’ Salaries. Then it was revealed through a hidden video that the Teacher’s Union greatly increased Teacher’s Union dues. Our School system in America are not run by local School Districts. They are run by the Teachers’ Unions. I’ve had many conversations with retired teachers who complained bitterly because of the restraints placed upon them by the Union. The Nation’s Teachers Unions give millions to Democratic coffers who in return funnel millions of dollars back to their supporters. Meanwhile our Students suffer. Long math is replaced with “why does 2+2=4?” I agree, many individuals prefer to let others do their thinking for them. They are content to listen to “SPIN” rather than putting in the effort to learn the truth. That is the way that Politicians want it. I, for one, desire the truth based on facts rather than ideology. Sure dropping the two bombs on Japan was a horrible thing. But it was a necessary evil. I try to avoid being led by emotions instead of facts. I hope that you have a good day and it has been fun talking with you.

  • Teach truth , not fiction !

  • Teach truth , not fiction !

  • Public schools are designed to raise good little sheeple that will comply with the program and conform to the set parameters.

    • the program being – be a compliant worker-bee and consumer

    • Nice job TROLLING public schools asshole.

    • Sure – let every student be without parameters and see how far society will accept it.

    • While I personally feel that public schools need a lot of help, the same belief (as yours) could hold true for those who homeschool their children. A great percentage do so for religious reasons, and thus are-” also designed to raise little sheeple that will comply.”

    • That’s a comment I’d expect from a graduate from sheeple training (Culver). Public schools are more interested in training youth how to pass a test or to take a test than training them how to think or how to learn. They inhibit free creative thinking (art and music being cut out of schools everywhere) and anything outside of the box are deemed as “wrong”. They don’t test intelligence, they test to see if little tommy and little susie will comply so they can grow up to be good little sheeple like David here with the large vocabulary.

    • And I don’t disagree with that (except for your silly name calling and misjudging me as a person). But if you do not believe homsechool parents also do not engage with limiting creative thinking or limiting beliefs that are “outside the box.” – well then, I just say – enjoy living with blinders on and casting stones in only one direction.

    • You (Allison) clearly didn’t read what I wrote because I specified exactly who I was aiming at within the paragraph.

    • I liked your comment (Allison) because I agreed with you.

  • Public schools are designed to raise good little sheeple that will comply with the program and conform to the set parameters.

    • the program being – be a compliant worker-bee and consumer

    • Nice job TROLLING public schools asshole.

    • Sure – let every student be without parameters and see how far society will accept it.

    • While I personally feel that public schools need a lot of help, the same belief (as yours) could hold true for those who homeschool their children. A great percentage do so for religious reasons, and thus are-” also designed to raise little sheeple that will comply.”

    • That’s a comment I’d expect from a graduate from sheeple training (Culver). Public schools are more interested in training youth how to pass a test or to take a test than training them how to think or how to learn. They inhibit free creative thinking (art and music being cut out of schools everywhere) and anything outside of the box are deemed as “wrong”. They don’t test intelligence, they test to see if little tommy and little susie will comply so they can grow up to be good little sheeple like David here with the large vocabulary.

    • And I don’t disagree with that (except for your silly name calling and misjudging me as a person). But if you do not believe homsechool parents also do not engage with limiting creative thinking or limiting beliefs that are “outside the box.” – well then, I just say – enjoy living with blinders on and casting stones in only one direction.

    • You (Allison) clearly didn’t read what I wrote because I specified exactly who I was aiming at within the paragraph.

    • I liked your comment (Allison) because I agreed with you.

  • So I suppose 2.0 students should just drop out of school and use their innate intelligence to make it in the world! 🙂

  • So I suppose 2.0 students should just drop out of school and use their innate intelligence to make it in the world! 🙂

  • The ones with the 4.0 put the effort into getting that grade, that accounts for something…

    • What about the child that tries, and tries, and tries, only to fail. That’s about half of the students today, the ones that don’t drop out, that is. How can we treat everyone the same, when it clearly fails about half? Oh, well most of this crap I’ve read makes me hate people. I hope the rich, and arrogant ones get robbed, and destroyed, by some intelligent criminal, who loves to harm assholes with money. Wait you will, and it will be by one of your Alumni.

  • The ones with the 4.0 put the effort into getting that grade, that accounts for something…

    • What about the child that tries, and tries, and tries, only to fail. That’s about half of the students today, the ones that don’t drop out, that is. How can we treat everyone the same, when it clearly fails about half? Oh, well most of this crap I’ve read makes me hate people. I hope the rich, and arrogant ones get robbed, and destroyed, by some intelligent criminal, who loves to harm assholes with money. Wait you will, and it will be by one of your Alumni.

  • So true.

  • So true.

  • or they can be like me and just be clumsy, forgetfull and just don’t test well.

  • or they can be like me and just be clumsy, forgetfull and just don’t test well.

  • Different story in higher education.

  • Different story in higher education.

  • Or a 1.52 student with ADHD

  • Or a 1.52 student with ADHD

  • Yeah yeah, some people have better gpa’s than others, and that’s that, but wisdom knows and embraces what knowledge sees as weird, but that’s not to say knowing stuff isn’t useful.

  • Yeah yeah, some people have better gpa’s than others, and that’s that, but wisdom knows and embraces what knowledge sees as weird, but that’s not to say knowing stuff isn’t useful.

  • Every dumb kid you knew in school is gonna comment how true this thread is. Don’t confuse discipline and goals with obedience.

  • Every dumb kid you knew in school is gonna comment how true this thread is. Don’t confuse discipline and goals with obedience.

  • Not for those of us who EARNED 4.0. Kids will be as stupid as their parents.

  • Not for those of us who EARNED 4.0. Kids will be as stupid as their parents.

  • Said by a dumbass.

  • Said by a dumbass.

  • Stupid BS meme.

  • Stupid BS meme.

  • GPA is not an indicator of intelligence, but it does indicate the ability to absorb information (not just memorize it). Moreover, it indicates an ability to utilize the information in an applicable way (4.0 isn’t just passing tests and papers; usually you have to go further and apply the knowledge to get those grades). Finally, there is a difference between diligence and obedience. One has to learn how to think critically to get a 4.0. It is not a skill most people (especially those who get 2.0s and drop out) develop. Keeping track of pithy dissident sound bites doesn’t make you enlightened, intelligent, or a critical thinker. It merely indicates mindless parroting from a different ideological perspective.
    3.0 is more akin to what the meme is trying to say, or even the quasi-maligned 2.0.
    A 4.0 requires a degree of work that doesn’t merely train the participant to follow directions, but forces the development of critical thinking skills that deserve an assessment of “Excellence”.
    Unless, of course, you went to shitty schools…
    Though, I was in the gifted program my whole life, so I’m not sure what the requirements for an “A” in other levels was.

    • Do you know how to fix a car? Farm? Cook? Change a light bulb? When I earned my degree, I couldn’t fathom how stupid people like you are. Excellent at applying that mundane, practically useless knowledge, that has only made the world a shitty place. You have no sense of right or wrong, have no sense of greater good. You actually make serious judgement’s about peoples intelligence and drive based off of their grades. You take nothing in to account. You just need a proper physical altercation, to put you in your place, and remember you are living a big lie, and illusion, and if you are here in the US, it is crumbling down around you. People that type, or speak like you make me sick. I hope the worst for you, and the wretched family that allowed you to think like this. I truly hate you. You’re supposed intelligence wouldn’t save you from much, with that attitude. So what have the smart folks with a good GPA done to help the world? We haven’t solved any crisis, disease, cleaned the planet, health care, the second leading cause of death in America, and science used for nothing but war, death,disease, and useless technology on the form of televisions, and internet, that dumb down, and distract. In fact your rhetoric sounds like something you copied out of a textbook. You are baffled by, and believe your own rhetoric. But hey when your mom, and dad are brother and sister, you inbred hick, that must seem like a big accomplishment. Good for you, you product of swamp incest.

    • It’s ironic that you believe to understand my thought processes without knowing a thing about me, while simultaneously lambasting me for the same act.

      Farm no (unless you count farming trees, having been a tree farm steward). Cook yes. I can also build a house. (Having worked for both chefs and as a construction worker, though I’ve yet to learn how to wire it or build the plumbing system). Mechanics is next on my list. Notice, at no point did I disparage practical knowledge. I simply observed a false dialectic and unfounded equivalence judgement and responded to people who clearly had never achieved the stated goal, yet we’re still certain what it meant. It seems you assumed I was simply educated without considering I may be more than formal education and good grades.

      Furthermore, depending on the discipline, that “mundane, practically useless knowledge” is almost completely responsible for the modern developments which allow you express your asinine assumptions via a digital medium. It wasn’t a farmer or a cook or an mechanic. It was a software programmer and computer engineer.

      At no point did I make a moral or ethical judgment, so to derive a sense of my right and wrong or greater good is pure sophist bullshit.

      In regard to the “serious judgments about people’s [sic] intelligence,” I explicitly stated GPA is not an indicator of intelligence; perhaps a reading comprehension refresher is in order. Moreover, I stated, based on my experience, that a 4.0 is more an indicator of work ethic and critical analysis skills–full stop. I qualified my statement that I do not know what a non-gifted or shitty school program is like, and fully accept the possibility that a 4.0 may be meaningless outside of my personal reference. However, within my limited perspective, a 4.0 was simply not possible without the perseverance and absorption of the analytic principles being taught. The principles at play in any endeavor worth doing (including practical skills. An unthinking farmer grows no crops).

      I also made no mention about my views concerning political beliefs nor social beliefs. That I fully recognize a dystopian, systemic collapse has not occurred to you, though I do not expect too many of your ideological opponents to “follow” FTP, unless they are simply trolls (a social designation almost always identified by far more vitriolic statements…*ahem*…and far less rational arguments than I am currently making). That I come from a lower-middle class background and have experienced times of crippling poverty has not occurred to you. That, outside of my classes, I existed in a social group which made no effort to learn beyond facile desire and now are unable to apply themselves to any sincere abstraction has not occurred to you. That it is my direct interaction with whom this meme directly refers and my observation of their inability to think in comprehensive critical schemas which elicits my response has not occurred to you. (It’s truly amazing how much judgment you level at me with so little knowledge of your own).

      I’ve been in the circumstances that many of the people who didn’t get a 4.0 blamed on their grades, and I sympathize. I was born lucky. I was able to push every negative influence out and focus, doggedly, on my work to avoid those influences. I don’t blame others for succumbing to them, per se, but I recognize a fundamental difference between us that allowed me to flourish where they did not.

      You are, admittedly, judging me explicitly on a very focused analysis as well as my my grammar and syntax. The words I choose to use and the way I construct my thoughts are enough to wish “the worst for [me], [sic] and the wretched family that allowed [me] to think like this” (ignoring the inherent liberty of every individual to think and believe as they will, instead placing the onus of my thought processes on other people who have no control over an external being; demonstrating a belief in you of some sort of collective authoritarianism…). You “hate” me because I write in proper and novel fashions, yet can’t recognize your own hypocrisy. (For more on why I write like I do read Orwell’s essay on the English https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm ).

      The argument that because a system of capitalization, designed by socially adept psychopaths has usurped the hard work and research of an entire world is essentially the same argument for gun control: because people use technological development for nefarious means, the technology is bad : because people kill people with guns, guns are bad. That is the same specious, slippery slop logical fallacy. As though the purveyors of “televisions, [sic] and Internet, [sic] that dumb down, [sic] and distract” are responsible for people eschewing the personal obligation to stay critical and informed. If people are as stupid and ignorant as you say, in a time when it has never been easier to self-educate, blame them, not the system of control. As reprehensible as it may be, the system is doing as it was designed to do. It is the people you simultaneously exalt and degrade who are not doing their part to educate themselves.

      Textbooks have a style which is to use specific language to logically deconstruct a discourse so that readers may follow an abstract concept like a blueprint. Any revulsion to the style is a severe misunderstanding of its teleological purpose and a reaction to perceived social order, rather than an understanding of how constructive arguments are formed. This is not imply constructive arguments are formed exclusively this way, simply there is a reason complex discourses follow routines: it is to take a multidynamic, multidimensional concept and break it down into smaller, interconnected pieces so that it is easier to follow to completion (as opposed to gisting an idea and assuming the basic premise is the point, obscuring nuance and accuracy along the way).

      Your own ad hominem and wildly unfounded attacks highlights your pathetic (from the Greek “Pathos”) attempt to engage in a rational argument and inability to say anything meaningful without erroneous, ignorant assumptions.

      You are a loud angry mouth, vacant comprehension, compassion, or civility.

  • GPA is not an indicator of intelligence, but it does indicate the ability to absorb information (not just memorize it). Moreover, it indicates an ability to utilize the information in an applicable way (4.0 isn’t just passing tests and papers; usually you have to go further and apply the knowledge to get those grades). Finally, there is a difference between diligence and obedience. One has to learn how to think critically to get a 4.0. It is not a skill most people (especially those who get 2.0s and drop out) develop. Keeping track of pithy dissident sound bites doesn’t make you enlightened, intelligent, or a critical thinker. It merely indicates mindless parroting from a different ideological perspective.
    3.0 is more akin to what the meme is trying to say, or even the quasi-maligned 2.0.
    A 4.0 requires a degree of work that doesn’t merely train the participant to follow directions, but forces the development of critical thinking skills that deserve an assessment of “Excellence”.
    Unless, of course, you went to shitty schools…
    Though, I was in the gifted program my whole life, so I’m not sure what the requirements for an “A” in other levels was.

    • Do you know how to fix a car? Farm? Cook? Change a light bulb? When I earned my degree, I couldn’t fathom how stupid people like you are. Excellent at applying that mundane, practically useless knowledge, that has only made the world a shitty place. You have no sense of right or wrong, have no sense of greater good. You actually make serious judgement’s about peoples intelligence and drive based off of their grades. You take nothing in to account. You just need a proper physical altercation, to put you in your place, and remember you are living a big lie, and illusion, and if you are here in the US, it is crumbling down around you. People that type, or speak like you make me sick. I hope the worst for you, and the wretched family that allowed you to think like this. I truly hate you. You’re supposed intelligence wouldn’t save you from much, with that attitude. So what have the smart folks with a good GPA done to help the world? We haven’t solved any crisis, disease, cleaned the planet, health care, the second leading cause of death in America, and science used for nothing but war, death,disease, and useless technology on the form of televisions, and internet, that dumb down, and distract. In fact your rhetoric sounds like something you copied out of a textbook. You are baffled by, and believe your own rhetoric. But hey when your mom, and dad are brother and sister, you inbred hick, that must seem like a big accomplishment. Good for you, you product of swamp incest.

    • It’s ironic that you believe to understand my thought processes without knowing a thing about me, while simultaneously lambasting me for the same act.

      Farm no (unless you count farming trees, having been a tree farm steward). Cook yes. I can also build a house. (Having worked for both chefs and as a construction worker, though I’ve yet to learn how to wire it or build the plumbing system). Mechanics is next on my list. Notice, at no point did I disparage practical knowledge. I simply observed a false dialectic and unfounded equivalence judgement and responded to people who clearly had never achieved the stated goal, yet we’re still certain what it meant. It seems you assumed I was simply educated without considering I may be more than formal education and good grades.

      Furthermore, depending on the discipline, that “mundane, practically useless knowledge” is almost completely responsible for the modern developments which allow you express your asinine assumptions via a digital medium. It wasn’t a farmer or a cook or an mechanic. It was a software programmer and computer engineer.

      At no point did I make a moral or ethical judgment, so to derive a sense of my right and wrong or greater good is pure sophist bullshit.

      In regard to the “serious judgments about people’s [sic] intelligence,” I explicitly stated GPA is not an indicator of intelligence; perhaps a reading comprehension refresher is in order. Moreover, I stated, based on my experience, that a 4.0 is more an indicator of work ethic and critical analysis skills–full stop. I qualified my statement that I do not know what a non-gifted or shitty school program is like, and fully accept the possibility that a 4.0 may be meaningless outside of my personal reference. However, within my limited perspective, a 4.0 was simply not possible without the perseverance and absorption of the analytic principles being taught. The principles at play in any endeavor worth doing (including practical skills. An unthinking farmer grows no crops).

      I also made no mention about my views concerning political beliefs nor social beliefs. That I fully recognize a dystopian, systemic collapse has not occurred to you, though I do not expect too many of your ideological opponents to “follow” FTP, unless they are simply trolls (a social designation almost always identified by far more vitriolic statements…*ahem*…and far less rational arguments than I am currently making). That I come from a lower-middle class background and have experienced times of crippling poverty has not occurred to you. That, outside of my classes, I existed in a social group which made no effort to learn beyond facile desire and now are unable to apply themselves to any sincere abstraction has not occurred to you. That it is my direct interaction with whom this meme directly refers and my observation of their inability to think in comprehensive critical schemas which elicits my response has not occurred to you. (It’s truly amazing how much judgment you level at me with so little knowledge of your own).

      I’ve been in the circumstances that many of the people who didn’t get a 4.0 blamed on their grades, and I sympathize. I was born lucky. I was able to push every negative influence out and focus, doggedly, on my work to avoid those influences. I don’t blame others for succumbing to them, per se, but I recognize a fundamental difference between us that allowed me to flourish where they did not.

      You are, admittedly, judging me explicitly on a very focused analysis as well as my my grammar and syntax. The words I choose to use and the way I construct my thoughts are enough to wish “the worst for [me], [sic] and the wretched family that allowed [me] to think like this” (ignoring the inherent liberty of every individual to think and believe as they will, instead placing the onus of my thought processes on other people who have no control over an external being; demonstrating a belief in you of some sort of collective authoritarianism…). You “hate” me because I write in proper and novel fashions, yet can’t recognize your own hypocrisy. (For more on why I write like I do read Orwell’s essay on the English https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm ).

      The argument that because a system of capitalization, designed by socially adept psychopaths has usurped the hard work and research of an entire world is essentially the same argument for gun control: because people use technological development for nefarious means, the technology is bad : because people kill people with guns, guns are bad. That is the same specious, slippery slop logical fallacy. As though the purveyors of “televisions, [sic] and Internet, [sic] that dumb down, [sic] and distract” are responsible for people eschewing the personal obligation to stay critical and informed. If people are as stupid and ignorant as you say, in a time when it has never been easier to self-educate, blame them, not the system of control. As reprehensible as it may be, the system is doing as it was designed to do. It is the people you simultaneously exalt and degrade who are not doing their part to educate themselves.

      Textbooks have a style which is to use specific language to logically deconstruct a discourse so that readers may follow an abstract concept like a blueprint. Any revulsion to the style is a severe misunderstanding of its teleological purpose and a reaction to perceived social order, rather than an understanding of how constructive arguments are formed. This is not imply constructive arguments are formed exclusively this way, simply there is a reason complex discourses follow routines: it is to take a multidynamic, multidimensional concept and break it down into smaller, interconnected pieces so that it is easier to follow to completion (as opposed to gisting an idea and assuming the basic premise is the point, obscuring nuance and accuracy along the way).

      Your own ad hominem and wildly unfounded attacks highlights your pathetic (from the Greek “Pathos”) attempt to engage in a rational argument and inability to say anything meaningful without erroneous, ignorant assumptions.

      You are a loud angry mouth, vacant comprehension, compassion, or civility.

  • That 2.0 student is normally lazy and will continue to be through adulthood.

    • I have a 2.0 student who happens to be overcoming epilepsy. He is not lazy – and if fact, has been stronger than many adults I know. He wants to be a scientist someday, and guess what – I believe in my heart he will. Because I know 2.0 doesn’t = lazy. For us, 2.0 is just a symptom of the impact seizures and medications – many of which kill brain cells, has has an impact on him.

    • Hence the word normally.

    • There are a lot more kids like my son out there. So no, I dont really agree with “normally” – none of us are normal and there is more than one way at living life. My husband for instance nearly failed out of high school. He found out in his senior year that he had an undiagnosed learning disability. He now has a near 4.0 GPA in college and not one but three degree’s. I just do not agree with lumping all people together and saying – hey all you poor achievers – you are lazy and that’s the way you’ll end up.

  • That 2.0 student is normally lazy and will continue to be through adulthood.

    • I have a 2.0 student who happens to be overcoming epilepsy. He is not lazy – and if fact, has been stronger than many adults I know. He wants to be a scientist someday, and guess what – I believe in my heart he will. Because I know 2.0 doesn’t = lazy. For us, 2.0 is just a symptom of the impact seizures and medications – many of which kill brain cells, has has an impact on him.

    • Hence the word normally.

    • There are a lot more kids like my son out there. So no, I dont really agree with “normally” – none of us are normal and there is more than one way at living life. My husband for instance nearly failed out of high school. He found out in his senior year that he had an undiagnosed learning disability. He now has a near 4.0 GPA in college and not one but three degree’s. I just do not agree with lumping all people together and saying – hey all you poor achievers – you are lazy and that’s the way you’ll end up.

  • These days you need street smart as well as book smart to survive. Phyllis painter Baltimore

  • These days you need street smart as well as book smart to survive. Phyllis painter Baltimore

  • A Moronic Comedy “Noir”: fundamentally, American society is breeding astronomical numbers of very stupid people with guns… Otherwise, it would not be school-children (and movie-goers) at large, indiscriminately fearing for their lives, while all kinds of two-legged vermin get fat and prosper, unchallenged, all over the country… The whole “education” front has been a moronic joke, for a very long time, as well; which brings matters, full-circle, to the first point…

  • A Moronic Comedy “Noir”: fundamentally, American society is breeding astronomical numbers of very stupid people with guns… Otherwise, it would not be school-children (and movie-goers) at large, indiscriminately fearing for their lives, while all kinds of two-legged vermin get fat and prosper, unchallenged, all over the country… The whole “education” front has been a moronic joke, for a very long time, as well; which brings matters, full-circle, to the first point…

  • No like from me this time. I have a 3.4 at university and I honestly couldnt justify the work I see some kids make to get the near or perfect gpa. In my observation, the kids who make a 2.0 are either never in class or fail to do the basics. Upper education is as much of a service as a program and we are their customers. I graduated with honors and was in the honors society with very little exertion in middle and highschool.

    The system sucks because it is constant testing, it doesnt build quality individuals or develop critical thinking skills. You know it is messed up when a foreign language teacher is face palming with how much he has to test us and how much stress it puts everyone under. And people wonder why we started drugging up anything that could breathe in our country. -sarcasm end-

  • No like from me this time. I have a 3.4 at university and I honestly couldnt justify the work I see some kids make to get the near or perfect gpa. In my observation, the kids who make a 2.0 are either never in class or fail to do the basics. Upper education is as much of a service as a program and we are their customers. I graduated with honors and was in the honors society with very little exertion in middle and highschool.

    The system sucks because it is constant testing, it doesnt build quality individuals or develop critical thinking skills. You know it is messed up when a foreign language teacher is face palming with how much he has to test us and how much stress it puts everyone under. And people wonder why we started drugging up anything that could breathe in our country. -sarcasm end-

  • That’s fucking right

  • That’s fucking right

  • they test knowledge of material
    it’s called education
    if you’re 2.0 and someone is 4.0
    they’re smart, you’re stupid

  • they test knowledge of material
    it’s called education
    if you’re 2.0 and someone is 4.0
    they’re smart, you’re stupid

  • I strongly agree!

  • I strongly agree!

  • Actually they test retention and decision making skills.

  • Actually they test retention and decision making skills.

  • congrats you earned me un-liking your page for this idiocy

  • congrats you earned me un-liking your page for this idiocy

  • I hear Pink Floyd in the background…

  • I hear Pink Floyd in the background…

  • Shit I am a 1.6 gpa. But I think I’m pretty smart.

  • Shit I am a 1.6 gpa. But I think I’m pretty smart.

  • Public schools have become centers of forced liberal indoctrination.

  • Public schools have become centers of forced liberal indoctrination.

  • Caleb Jones you’re knowledge vs smart theory.

  • Caleb Jones you’re knowledge vs smart theory.

  • If you judge a fish on its ability to climb trees instead of swimming…

  • If you judge a fish on its ability to climb trees instead of swimming…

  • Lol ok. Well when you can’t explain the tides or rainbows in five years… Have fun.

  • Lol ok. Well when you can’t explain the tides or rainbows in five years… Have fun.

  • Absolutely, my GPA suffered because I missed deadlines for technology glitches . Has nothing to do with education. Deadlines do however have everything to do with obedience to authority, and workforce cultivation.

  • Absolutely, my GPA suffered because I missed deadlines for technology glitches . Has nothing to do with education. Deadlines do however have everything to do with obedience to authority, and workforce cultivation.

  • A broad generalisation! A kid who gets 2.o may be streetwise, but doesn’t necessarily mean intelligent. Obedient? I don’t think so, most students from govt schools tend to conform and are taught mainstream ideas, it is students in public schools ( meaning private fee paying in UK) are encouraged to think outside the box. Memorisation can be helpful. Imagine a doctor who forgets facts…authority does not have the truth, but with experience and often those with experience are given the authority to teach. Repetition is not rewarded, but as they say practice makes perfect, students should be given plenty of opportunity to practice. Some student of high intelligence are lazy and may well get the 2.0 due to their incompetence rather than their intelligence.

  • A broad generalisation! A kid who gets 2.o may be streetwise, but doesn’t necessarily mean intelligent. Obedient? I don’t think so, most students from govt schools tend to conform and are taught mainstream ideas, it is students in public schools ( meaning private fee paying in UK) are encouraged to think outside the box. Memorisation can be helpful. Imagine a doctor who forgets facts…authority does not have the truth, but with experience and often those with experience are given the authority to teach. Repetition is not rewarded, but as they say practice makes perfect, students should be given plenty of opportunity to practice. Some student of high intelligence are lazy and may well get the 2.0 due to their incompetence rather than their intelligence.

  • COMMON CORE logic!

  • COMMON CORE logic!

  • Some truth to this.

  • Some truth to this.

  • except math. math is truth. Physics too.

  • except math. math is truth. Physics too.

  • I failed so many classes but blew the tests away. “Busy work,” binders full of useless shit (that would often account for 50% of the grade), and hours of redundant homework did not sit well with me.

  • I failed so many classes but blew the tests away. “Busy work,” binders full of useless shit (that would often account for 50% of the grade), and hours of redundant homework did not sit well with me.

  • Follow the School Sucks Podcast!! (Shameless plug)
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RmlwTbRw8Xc

  • Follow the School Sucks Podcast!! (Shameless plug)
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RmlwTbRw8Xc

  • Yeah, but if your smart enough you’ll definitely be at least a 3.0 without going to class and just kicking ass on tests. Most tests answer themselves. What we don’t want is slacker stoner kids thinking they are special just because they are against the man. I am too, but I’m not looking for posts to make me feel I’m special for accomplishing less.

  • Yeah, but if your smart enough you’ll definitely be at least a 3.0 without going to class and just kicking ass on tests. Most tests answer themselves. What we don’t want is slacker stoner kids thinking they are special just because they are against the man. I am too, but I’m not looking for posts to make me feel I’m special for accomplishing less.

  • This is a logical fallacy. A Red Herring argument.

    Good grades aren’t automatically a test of obedience. Good grades can also be a demonstration of the results that come with focus, intent and lots and lots of hard work applied towards a goal.

  • This is a logical fallacy. A Red Herring argument.

    Good grades aren’t automatically a test of obedience. Good grades can also be a demonstration of the results that come with focus, intent and lots and lots of hard work applied towards a goal.

  • I thought that’s what they wanted?

  • I thought that’s what they wanted?

  • “Introverted types tend to do better on (solitary) aptitude tests such as SAT, ACT, and IQ tests than Extraverts. However, ENTPs seem to be the best of the Extraverts in terms of scores on aptitude tests (Myers et al., 1998). ENTPs also had the highest IQ in a sample of 133 8th graders (Mebane in McCaulley & Kainz, 1976) and a sample of 458 9th – 12th graders (McCaulley & Natter, 1974).

    Despite this, a study performed over 9 years at a midsized, private undergraduate university found that ENTPs had the second lowest GPA of all types, only the ESTPs being lower (Dirienzo, Das, Synn, Kitts, & McGrath, 2010). The study also found that ENTP GPA varied by major”

  • “Introverted types tend to do better on (solitary) aptitude tests such as SAT, ACT, and IQ tests than Extraverts. However, ENTPs seem to be the best of the Extraverts in terms of scores on aptitude tests (Myers et al., 1998). ENTPs also had the highest IQ in a sample of 133 8th graders (Mebane in McCaulley & Kainz, 1976) and a sample of 458 9th – 12th graders (McCaulley & Natter, 1974).

    Despite this, a study performed over 9 years at a midsized, private undergraduate university found that ENTPs had the second lowest GPA of all types, only the ESTPs being lower (Dirienzo, Das, Synn, Kitts, & McGrath, 2010). The study also found that ENTP GPA varied by major”

  • Now you’re just getting it?

  • Now you’re just getting it?

  • Sure…

  • Sure…

  • Amen!

  • Amen!

  • Nadira Evanz

  • Nadira Evanz

  • okay but 2.0 students are still lazier than 4.0 students…

  • okay but 2.0 students are still lazier than 4.0 students…

  • This isn’t always true. I was twenty-sixth in a class of four hundred twenty-eight, but I have turned into such a pro-freedom person I think some of my previous teachers would be surprised (although one has openly stated they thought I would go this way since I was one of their most gifted students).

  • This isn’t always true. I was twenty-sixth in a class of four hundred twenty-eight, but I have turned into such a pro-freedom person I think some of my previous teachers would be surprised (although one has openly stated they thought I would go this way since I was one of their most gifted students).

  • grades indicate intelligence, they test subject mastery

  • grades indicate intelligence, they test subject mastery

  • .

  • .

  • Giulia

  • Giulia

  • Private schools do the same and there’s no chance for accountability.

  • Private schools do the same and there’s no chance for accountability.

  • I didn’t care to get high grades in school. (though a couple/few of my teachers were great! I needed U.S. Government to graduate, I hated to have to go to it… but the teacher was so good, and made me really think… and I loved going to his class). In the end I graduated high school w/ 2.8 average.
    The thing is, when I applied to go into the Navy, they tested me and showed me w/ a 125 IQ. My intelligence out weighs the schools teaching by leaps and bounds. Not only that, after years of being out of school I have found much of what they taught was lies.
    *One prime example is: They taught – Columbus discovered America. WRONG !!!!!!
    It was discovered by the Vikings. and of course there was the ”fact” that indigenous Indians were already here. So they too discovered America. Why does Christopher Columbus get the credit? Makes no sense. Now they are teaching ”Common Core”? It’s a fiasco!!!

  • I didn’t care to get high grades in school. (though a couple/few of my teachers were great! I needed U.S. Government to graduate, I hated to have to go to it… but the teacher was so good, and made me really think… and I loved going to his class). In the end I graduated high school w/ 2.8 average.
    The thing is, when I applied to go into the Navy, they tested me and showed me w/ a 125 IQ. My intelligence out weighs the schools teaching by leaps and bounds. Not only that, after years of being out of school I have found much of what they taught was lies.
    *One prime example is: They taught – Columbus discovered America. WRONG !!!!!!
    It was discovered by the Vikings. and of course there was the ”fact” that indigenous Indians were already here. So they too discovered America. Why does Christopher Columbus get the credit? Makes no sense. Now they are teaching ”Common Core”? It’s a fiasco!!!

  • So you Guys dont think children should learn. To read/write, communicate i foreign langauges, do math, basic physics and chemistry?

  • So you Guys dont think children should learn. To read/write, communicate i foreign langauges, do math, basic physics and chemistry?

  • I do not agree with this 🙂 Grades test learning 🙂 In an ideal society that is.

  • I do not agree with this 🙂 Grades test learning 🙂 In an ideal society that is.

  • No they test the ability to do tests. Someone can know it all and crash under test conditions.

  • No they test the ability to do tests. Someone can know it all and crash under test conditions.

  • So says the 2.0 student

  • So says the 2.0 student

  • Teachers and professors teach at the c+ level, course selection should be based on that mark, otherwise you are taking courses that are too easy.

  • Teachers and professors teach at the c+ level, course selection should be based on that mark, otherwise you are taking courses that are too easy.

  • Here I thought it was hard work that got you a 4.0…

  • Here I thought it was hard work that got you a 4.0…

  • True story. I scored the highest score in the entire history of my high school on the ASVAB. Taught myself quantum mechanics at 14. Taught myself Italian at 16.

    But I just barely graduated HS. Me and school don’t really get along, lol.

  • True story. I scored the highest score in the entire history of my high school on the ASVAB. Taught myself quantum mechanics at 14. Taught myself Italian at 16.

    But I just barely graduated HS. Me and school don’t really get along, lol.

  • …Says every stupid, disobedient student. If you don’t get it from school, your parents, and/or your own initiative and rely on the “street”? Then you’re just a dumb ass.

  • …Says every stupid, disobedient student. If you don’t get it from school, your parents, and/or your own initiative and rely on the “street”? Then you’re just a dumb ass.

  • And in this free world, being obedient allows one to live in peace…and no, grades don’t just test obedience, they test a student’s ability to be disciplined within a subject, commited to learning and self application. Subjects are a vehicle for higher order thinking skills which is also whats needed when in adult life.

  • And in this free world, being obedient allows one to live in peace…and no, grades don’t just test obedience, they test a student’s ability to be disciplined within a subject, commited to learning and self application. Subjects are a vehicle for higher order thinking skills which is also whats needed when in adult life.

  • I am living proof of that.

  • I am living proof of that.

  • yes

  • yes

  • schools, jobs, money and government are all obsolete.

  • schools, jobs, money and government are all obsolete.

  • Self discipline! You need that to keep a job when you grow up. I think people who are not able to form complex ideas have less rewarding experiences in school. Project based classes teach skills you need to preform real life work tasks.

  • Self discipline! You need that to keep a job when you grow up. I think people who are not able to form complex ideas have less rewarding experiences in school. Project based classes teach skills you need to preform real life work tasks.

  • Our cont’d future….”SHEEPLE” Brought to you by, Top 1% !!!!!

  • Our cont’d future….”SHEEPLE” Brought to you by, Top 1% !!!!!

  • Nikki Paras Yash

  • Nikki Paras Yash

  • Vic Rojas

  • Vic Rojas

  • PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE NOT ALL ALIKE… NOT ARE ALL PRIVATE SCHOOLS..
    SOME OF THE GREATEST CRITICAL THINKERS WERE EDUCATED IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS BY INTELLIGENT, PASSIONATE, AND COMPASSIONATE TEACHERS !
    FUND THE TEACHERS AND EDUCATORS AND SUPPORT THERE GROWTH, ALONG WITH THE ABILITY OF THE CHILDREN’S PARENTS TO BE WELL EDUCATED, PROPERLY EMPLOYED, AND NUTRITIOUS LY FED…
    THEN PUBLIC EDUCATION EXCELS ! : )

  • PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE NOT ALL ALIKE… NOT ARE ALL PRIVATE SCHOOLS..
    SOME OF THE GREATEST CRITICAL THINKERS WERE EDUCATED IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS BY INTELLIGENT, PASSIONATE, AND COMPASSIONATE TEACHERS !
    FUND THE TEACHERS AND EDUCATORS AND SUPPORT THERE GROWTH, ALONG WITH THE ABILITY OF THE CHILDREN’S PARENTS TO BE WELL EDUCATED, PROPERLY EMPLOYED, AND NUTRITIOUS LY FED…
    THEN PUBLIC EDUCATION EXCELS ! : )

  • “Their” growth, not “there” growth, obviously… : )

  • “Their” growth, not “there” growth, obviously… : )

  • I believe it

  • I believe it

  • This is the problem with this country. Following instructions vs. Actually learning something. Following instructions teaches us nothing but that.

  • This is the problem with this country. Following instructions vs. Actually learning something. Following instructions teaches us nothing but that.

  • But.. A 4.0 student shows self discipline and a 2.0 student excerpts laziness

  • But.. A 4.0 student shows self discipline and a 2.0 student excerpts laziness

  • I don’t necessarily agree with this. It’s a sweeping, very over-generalized statement. I know what it’s getting at, but …

  • I don’t necessarily agree with this. It’s a sweeping, very over-generalized statement. I know what it’s getting at, but …

  • Yeah right!! I got straight “A”s and have an IQ of 159. I am the most disobedient woman you will ever meet! Kept me out of the High Honor Society for not projecting the proper image! Missed 1 day more than allowed(31,30 max) and denied diploma for it! Told ” I lacked the proficiency to graduate”! Also failed gym. Took GED next day. Missed 2 questions!

  • Yeah right!! I got straight “A”s and have an IQ of 159. I am the most disobedient woman you will ever meet! Kept me out of the High Honor Society for not projecting the proper image! Missed 1 day more than allowed(31,30 max) and denied diploma for it! Told ” I lacked the proficiency to graduate”! Also failed gym. Took GED next day. Missed 2 questions!

  • Obedience vs. Discipline.

  • Obedience vs. Discipline.

  • I realize all the flaws of standardized education but still consider myself less conformed and more intelligent than the 2.0 mouthbreathers who still get drunk in barns at my small town.

  • I realize all the flaws of standardized education but still consider myself less conformed and more intelligent than the 2.0 mouthbreathers who still get drunk in barns at my small town.

  • The smartest person at MIT mopped the floors!
    How do you like them apples?

  • The smartest person at MIT mopped the floors!
    How do you like them apples?

  • Self discipline is the key.

  • Self discipline is the key.

  • So many brilliant idiots! FOND!

  • So many brilliant idiots! FOND!

  • What a load of bollocks. Perhaps you left school at 2.0?

  • What a load of bollocks. Perhaps you left school at 2.0?

  • Not just public schools either

  • Not just public schools either

  • Raise your hand if you want a 2.0 neurosurgeon who ‘wasn’t good at school but good at other things’ or got into university on something other than academic merit removing your child’s brain tumor? Anyone? And how about letting said surgeon use medicine/techniques standardized by a 2.0 scientist/engineer.. Anyone? Lets not be too quick to condemn an entire lot of scholars, doctors, scientists etc, discrediting their purpose be worth.

  • Raise your hand if you want a 2.0 neurosurgeon who ‘wasn’t good at school but good at other things’ or got into university on something other than academic merit removing your child’s brain tumor? Anyone? And how about letting said surgeon use medicine/techniques standardized by a 2.0 scientist/engineer.. Anyone? Lets not be too quick to condemn an entire lot of scholars, doctors, scientists etc, discrediting their purpose be worth.